monster farm/monster rancher needs a home

[moumantai]

theres a wonderful anime called monster rancher that used to play on fox family

this anime has plenty of fans who would love to see it again so im hoping maybe cartoon network might pick it up and show it uncut it would be a great addition to meguzi toonami or maybe even adult swim

[Fan of Sponge]

In my opinion, Monster Rancher wouldn't really fit into or break CN's mold. Besides, the bulk of the shows that were bought from Fox Family was ABC Family and with that, ABC Family in partnership with Toon Disney created Jetix. There are two options here. One, Monster Rancher gets to air on Jetix or two, it gets shoved in a shelf.

[Undrave]

Wasn't Monster Rancher a BKN property?

ADV I believe released a few DVDs... now they're very hard to find.

"I was transported
To a far away land
Into the world
Where monster rule

I played the game like an ace
Now I'm in this place
To save the monsters from the evil Moo

Monsters rule
Monsters rule
Monster Rancher! "

And so on... I got the theme song on my Mp3 player XD

[Wanted]

That's not funny, and this show doesn't belong on Cartoon Network, or on television, for that matter. It's too old, and has nothing to offer.

[Undrave]

What do you mean its not funny?

I would like to get it on DVD... I never got to see the last episodes >< really bothers me.

[Sketch]

It should air on Jetix for the fans.

[The Wolverine]

It should air on Jetix for the fans.
Jetix would never air season 3, just like Fox Family didn't air season 3.
Plus with Jetix going to Toon Disney exclusively, that wouldn't be good for me even if they did air it again.

[Wanted]

What do you mean its not funny?
XD... usually signifies that you're laughing. And, what you said prior to that (disturbing symbol of an emoticon [I hate emoticons]) wasn't funny.

[Undrave]

To me XD usually means I'm sticking my tongue out... but yeah me having the song on my Mp3 player isn't funny but maybe a tad oddball?

[Sketch]

Jetix would never air season 3, just like Fox Family didn't air season 3.
Plus with Jetix going to Toon Disney exclusively, that wouldn't be good for me even if they did air it again.

Well CN sure isn't going to show it here. They don't like to dig up series that are even that dated unless they already aired them and still have the license. None of those apply to Monster Rancher. Jetix or bust, season 3 or not.

[moumantai]

guess were never onna see the show on tv again

[FireStarterLE]

i wish, if for no other reason, they would show the last 2-3 episodes of 1st season.

a few years ago when it was still on KWB weekdays, i started watching it and got all the way to the 2nd to last episode then they pulled it off and i would never see it again.

[havokpryde]

To me XD usually means I'm sticking my tongue out... but yeah me having the song on my Mp3 player isn't funny but maybe a tad oddball?
Thats XP but it looks like your dead, so you probably mean :P, and no its quite normal.

It's too old, and has nothing to offer.
With Tom and Jerry Kids, Swat Kats, A Pup named Scooby and the classic Tom and Jerry does that really make sense. If you include AS, there's The Gary Coleman show, and The Harlem Globetrotters, albeit at deadpan hours. But Lupin the 3rd, was aired at a fairly decent time, for AS anyway. It had it moments, and I always liked it better to Pokemon. It would be a cheap acquisition, and let's face facts CN is airing oldies during school hours, its not like it pumping fresh water anymore.

[Assembler]

There is still hope. Jackie chan is coming Jetix Monster ranchers can always go to jetix. Could always go to G4 action blast...XD

[Wanted]

Jetix already made its acquisitions for 2006-2007 known. I doubt that they'd even try to get Monster Rancher at this point. And, Action Blast is a Hasbro property... which means that only Hasbro shows will show up on it. Action Blast =/= Monster RancherWith Tom and Jerry Kids, Swat Kats, A Pup named Scooby and the classic Tom and Jerry does that really make sense.Yes. Turner, or Warner Brothers, owns those series, which gives Cartoon Network the right to air them for close to nothing.

It would be a cheap acquisition, and let's face facts CN is airing oldies during school hours, its not like it pumping fresh water anymore.Sure, it's not "pumping the same amount of fresh water" than it used to, but it still is making new stuff. I just mean that there's no viable advantage if Cartoon Network picks up this show. Put it up against the competition? What competition? Besides, the whole collectible monster thing died out a few years ago... the craze, I mean.

[havokpryde]

Besides, the whole collectible monster thing died out a few years ago... the craze, I mean.
Good point.

[Undrave]

You ever played Monster Rancher?

It's not about collecting Monsters, and neither was the show. In Monster Rancher you raise 1 monster at a time, making it go through training exercice, send it to the coaches, go to tournaments with it and even go on expeditions into ancient ruins. When your monster gets to old you put it on ice or breed it with another one of your old monster to get a new one. It's repetitive but like Harvest Moon for exemple it's extremely addictive at time.

Monster Rancher the show had no collecting element once the party of Genki, Holly, Suezo, Mocchi, Tiger, Golem and Hare was assambled. Then it was all about saving the world.

[KillerPenguin]

I miss Monster Rancher so much. :(

[moumantai]

does anyone at cn ever read the forums cause im hoping if this post gets lots of replies the people at cn might consider airing the show even if its just for a little while to see if it gets any viewers

i know id be sure to catch it every day if they do air it

[Fan of Sponge]

They probably don't look at the forums, but maybe once every few months. With all the points people have put up about the monster collecting fad over, you might be out of luck.:shrug:

[Dark Fact]

You probably would've wished you lived up here in Canada. YTV reran both seasons of the show into the ground during their Zone lineup (which probably also cost us the chance to get Season 3 aired :mad: )

ADV released 8 volumes of the series on VHS (ep 1-24) and 4 volumes of the DVD (ep 1-12). Needless to say, they were pulled due to slumping ratings on television. :sad:

The possible good news is that BKN has resumed putting their titles on DVD so there is a chance that Monster Rancher can be released in its entirety through BKN's division.

[Wanted]

It's not about collecting Monsters, and neither was the show. In Monster Rancher you raise 1 monster at a time, making it go through training exercice, send it to the coaches, go to tournaments with it and even go on expeditions into ancient ruins. When your monster gets to old you put it on ice or breed it with another one of your old monster to get a new one. It's repetitive but like Harvest Moon for exemple it's extremely addictive at time.

Monster Rancher the show had no collecting element once the party of Genki, Holly, Suezo, Mocchi, Tiger, Golem and Hare was assambled. Then it was all about saving the world.Eh, what the hell's the difference? When people see little anime kids playing with monsters, they all think the same thing. Whether it's collecting, fighting, or saving the world, nobody cares. They don't even bother looking into the show after they think they know the general gist of it.

does anyone at cn ever read the forums cause im hoping if this post gets lots of replies the people at cn might consider airing the show even if its just for a little while to see if it gets any viewersWell, you shouldn't get your hopes up. If you have yet to notice, only eleven different people have posted in this thread, and I'm sure Cartoon Network has no interest in airing Monster Rancher. But, please, I hope you don't mind me asking... what is your (anyone who can answer, feel free to) deal with wanting the Cartoon Network, and only Cartoon Network to air Monster Rancher? If Nickeleodeon aired it, would you be just as happy? Because, when you get down to it, Cartoon Network's just as likely to screw over a show as any other network... maybe even moreso.

[moumantai]

well i figured if cn gets it they might show every episode and not hack them to pieces

[Wanted]

Well, that's sort of a meritless reason to want any show to air on Cartoon Network.

[Rolling Cloud]

As long as they don't put it on when I'm in school, I'll watch it!

[CookieS]

A lot of old cartoons "need a home." Quit expecting networks to pick up dead franchises. The series either has to be home-grown or have some growth potiental. Its very rare a network will pick up an anime series in which the dubbing stopped after a few seaons.

Please, quit posting these "need a home" threads because they're basically nostalgia threads, and they're getting on my nerves.

[moumantai]

Well, that's sort of a meritless reason to want any show to air on Cartoon Network.

thats not the only reason toonmaster i want it to air on cn cause its a great anime and i love watching it

[Wanted]

And... that's a senseless reason.

You didn't bother to look into the facts or well-known assumptions at all, did you?

[Master Moron]

Wasn't Monster Rancher one of those awful Fox hack-jobs? Do we really need to see any more hacked up anime on TV?

[creativerealms]

No actually what hurt Monster Rancher was that little kids got confused with the Japanese references that were not changed, from the early episodes at least.

[Undrave]

No actually what hurt Monster Rancher was that little kids got confused with the Japanese references that were not changed, from the early episodes at least.

What japanese reference?

Plus not cutting out japanese culture is something we always cry out for!

[Dark Fact]

Wasn't Monster Rancher one of those awful Fox hack-jobs? Do we really need to see any more hacked up anime on TV?
BKN did all the original edits with some additional edits made by Fox for their broadcast.

No actually what hurt Monster Rancher was that little kids got confused with the Japanese references that were not changed, from the early episodes at least.
No, what hurt it was that it was going head to head with Digimon on Fox Kids. Not to mention that the series got re-ran into the ground on some stations.

[Gary L Thompson]

theres a wonderful anime called monster rancher that used to play on fox family

this anime has plenty of fans who would love to see it again so im hoping maybe cartoon network might pick it up and show it uncut it would be a great addition to meguzi toonami or maybe even adult swim

theres a wonderful anime called monster rancher that used to play on fox family

this anime has plenty of fans who would love to see it again so im hoping maybe cartoon network might pick it up and show it uncut it would be a great addition to meguzi toonami or maybe even adult swim

I recently sent out this email to "Cartoon Network":

"BKN has recently announced plans to expand significantly its USA activities, including the DVD release of the cartoon series "Monster Rancher" last month (look up www.ccnmatthews.com/news/...For=549295 (http://www.ccnmatthews.com/news/releases/show.jsp?action=showRelease&actionFor=549295) , if you care for further details). I believe Cartoon Network should give strong consideration for picking up this show, which probably would be most suited for the Miguzi block.

I am sure CN is well acquainted with the popularity of mon shows, both from airing "Pokemon" and counterprogramming against that show's main competitor, "Digimon". I believe "Monster Rancher" could conceivably prove more popular than either if you were to air it. CN has certainly scored some of its biggest successes in the past after airing shows which had not been successful in their first airings, most notably "Dragonball/Dragonball Z" and "Sailor Moon", and in fact one of your hottest hits right now ("Totally Spies") came to you as a castoff from Fox Family/ABC Family.

MR could well be another of these shows. Like "Pokemon", MR has the journey across a vast landscape and interaction with the locals at various points along the way, but with a strong melodramatic storyline involving dangerous and formidable enemies like "Digimon." Rather than use monsters as his surrogates, the well-named Genki (Japanese for energy) fights side-by-side with his monster companions, who behave like a bickering yet close family. This show certainly hit a chord with its audience on its first run, as BKN Kids got hit ratings from "Monster Rancher" when it first came on the air.

As to why MR failed to sustain these ratings and grow in popularity like "Pokemon" and "Digimon", one has to point out there are a number of legitimate "buts" in the show's career. BKN Kids continued to run the same first-season 26 episodes every single weekday for a year or two (right up until its demise, in fact), until even the most avid "Monster Rancher" fans were sick and tired of the show. Fox did go on to Season 2 more than a year after the show's debut. However, the show was yanked before having the opportunity to complete either of its weekday and Saturday runs on Fox Kids. Fox Family went the opposite direction and eventually ran the show into the ground by never going on to Season 3 and continually airing the same old 40+ episodes continuously over weekdays and double time slots on weekends, making matters worse by skipping two key episodes and doing other more drastic editing than BKN.

With passing time, "Monster Rancher" is no longer in the unfortunate state of having worn out its welcome, and has the opportunity of reaching a new young audience. By running all 73 MR episodes, this show should stand up better to continual rerunning than in the past (and in fact better than many current Miguzi shows which cannot match the same episode count). Moreover, should this show prove a hit, ordering new episodes for new seasons should be no problem, since the final episode of Season 3 was rather open-ended, and the show only covered the two editions of the "Monster Rancher" videogame, with the monsters and human characters of several new game editions still yet to be tapped.

An informal poll I conducted some time back in Toon Zone indicated that MR was the most popular of BKN's past shows, and another Toon Zone thread commenting on BKN's announcement on MR (forums.toonzone.net/showt...e=1&pp=20) (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=146023&page=1&pp=20)) revealed that there is still considerable affection for the show. I think there is definitely the potential for CN to reap great ratings without the risk producing a brand-new show."

I still stand by this email. Frankly, I like "Pokemon" and "Digimon", but "Monster Rancher" stands out as the best of the "mon" genera. If not Miguzi, even rerunning all 73 episodes in the 5-6 a.m. AS hour would win CN a lot of goodwill among MR fans.

Wasn't Monster Rancher a BKN property?

ADV I believe released a few DVDs... now they're very hard to find.

"I was transported
To a far away land
Into the world
Where monster rule

I played the game like an ace
Now I'm in this place
To save the monsters from the evil Moo

Monsters rule
Monsters rule
Monster Rancher! "

And so on... I got the theme song on my Mp3 player XD

You probably would've wished you lived up here in Canada. YTV reran both seasons of the show into the ground during their Zone lineup (which probably also cost us the chance to get Season 3 aired :mad: )

ADV released 8 volumes of the series on VHS (ep 1-24) and 4 volumes of the DVD (ep 1-12). Needless to say, they were pulled due to slumping ratings on television. :sad:

The possible good news is that BKN has resumed putting their titles on DVD so there is a chance that Monster Rancher can be released in its entirety through BKN's division.

Matter of fact, I bought a $1 DVD of the first five episodes of "Monster Rancher" the other day. Digiview is releasing a whole lot of old BKN series on video in discount stores nationwide. I suggest people wanting to find out how the release is going turn to the Digiview website (not for information, because for some reason the website has none of it on the BKN deal, but for the email and phone number to contact Digiview).

There is still hope. Jackie chan is coming Jetix Monster ranchers can always go to jetix. Could always go to G4 action blast...XD

Like I said above, I believe Fox/ABC Family holds a large share of the blame for the show's premature demise, so I would hope that it never gets its hands on MR again. (Personally, there's a whole bunch of game-related cartoons that G4 could pick up on the relative cheap and combine with live shows on the games, I've never understood why a network running both animation and shows devoted to gaming never took advantage of it).

You ever played Monster Rancher?

It's not about collecting Monsters, and neither was the show. In Monster Rancher you raise 1 monster at a time, making it go through training exercice, send it to the coaches, go to tournaments with it and even go on expeditions into ancient ruins. When your monster gets to old you put it on ice or breed it with another one of your old monster to get a new one. It's repetitive but like Harvest Moon for exemple it's extremely addictive at time.

Monster Rancher the show had no collecting element once the party of Genki, Holly, Suezo, Mocchi, Tiger, Golem and Hare was assambled. Then it was all about saving the world.

Frankly, I'm not a game player, but I've been trying to find out more information on the games as part of an effort to whip up episodes of an imaginary Season 4 (which I'm doing to promote an MR website). By the way, I could use some input, so feel free to go to http://p079.ezboard.com/fmonsterrancher4520frm15 to look up some of the work I've done so far. (For that matter, go to the website anyway, we can always use some for MR fan posters.)

But, please, I hope you don't mind me asking... what is your (anyone who can answer, feel free to) deal with wanting the Cartoon Network, and only Cartoon Network to air Monster Rancher? If Nickeleodeon aired it, would you be just as happy? Because, when you get down to it, Cartoon Network's just as likely to screw over a show as any other network... maybe even moreso.

Well, I'll be blunt about it. As long as it isn't Jetix, I'd be happy if anybody picked up "Monster Rancher" and ran all 73 episodes in order, with no worse than BKN-level editing. Frankly, I wouldn't rule out that scenerio altogether, BKN has been airing shows on networks other than Jetix, like DIC Kids for example.

A lot of old cartoons "need a home." Quit expecting networks to pick up dead franchises. The series either has to be home-grown or have some growth potiental. Its very rare a network will pick up an anime series in which the dubbing stopped after a few seaons.

Please, quit posting these "need a home" threads because they're basically nostalgia threads, and they're getting on my nerves.

There's a major difference between mere nostalgia, and frustration that a great show was killed because of network bungling ("Zoids" is another great example). There are a lot of MR fans that would love to see Season 3, as well as an unhacked Season 2 (neither of which came out on video).

[creativerealms]

One of the biggest one was when the main character named the first monster he met. It's been along time since I saw the episode but the line was like this, "You remind me the the riceballs my mom use to make so I'll call you (Enter other word for riceball here)"

Yeah there were other reasons to but of shows on Fox and other channels at that time Monster Rancher was probably one of the least "Americanized"