C&C - Fullmetal Alchemist - "The Scar" [12/17]

[Captain Zechs]

No mods around...so here is the talkback :)

[Gatomon41]

Ed came prepared. :anime:

Just don't use Uranium, Ed.

Gluttony: Funniest Homuculi

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Gluttony? Character? What?

[livingfruitvirus]

Well I'll be. THAT guy is Scar's brother?

Gluttony? Character? What?
Gluttony's name should be Dependency. Damn momma's boy.

[FlyByNite77]

Ed came prepared. :anime:

Just don't use Uranium, Ed.

Gluttony: Funniest Homuculilol yea, that was some good stuff from Gluttony instead of just the mindless "CAN I EAT HIIIIIIIM?"

[cadence]

Well I'll be. THAT guy is Scar's brother? Dunno, didn't lust already have memories of that guy? Unless she only forgot parts here and there then the whole thing with that necklace would be from another guy.

But I'm confused so I'm probably totally wrong :eek:

EDIT:

nvm, wrong :P

[livingfruitvirus]

Likenesses eh? Guess that's why Sloth looks like Ed and Al's mom.

[FlyByNite77]

Likenesses eh? Guess that's why Sloth looks like Ed and Al's mom.Yep...

oooh god. I forgot about this torture by Kimbly.

[Gatomon41]

Huh? So Scar's arm has an Army of Souls ? :confused:

Wow, I love that Artist concepton of that event.

:eek: Poor Rose.:(

[FlyByNite77]

Rose was gang-raped by soldiers.... daaaaamn :mad:

[Gatomon41]

The Fuher is a ! :eek:

Revelations, character devlopment, and Marta's gone.

4 out of 5!

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Saw it coming.


DAMN at Marta's fate, though. That just hurts.:crying:

[B.K.]

The Fuher is a ! :eek: Yes. He is Pride.

[FlyByNite77]

The Fuher is a ! :eek:and he killed Marta!!!! :crying:

[KojiroTakenashi]

Whoa. Dark.

[Timmay]

RIP, Al's sanity, Marta, Scar's brother, Rose's sanity, the people of Lior, unknowing soldiers used for explosions.

to quote robot chicken "WHAT A TWIST!"

[Gatomon41]

It's like Revenge of the Sith!

[cadence]

What a messed up episode!!!! :crying:

"pre-emption is a difficult concept for people to understand"

Hmm that sounds familiar ........... :sad:

[FlyByNite77]

Yes. He is Pride.and in the manga isn't he actually Wrath?

[Timmay]

and in the manga isn't he actually Wrath?
Yes.

[Youko Recca]

I know someone who has some boasting to do...Name starts with a "D".

Come on down!

[B.K.]

and in the manga isn't he actually Wrath?
Yeah. The manga is up to chapter 54 and still hasn't shown Pride. All we've heard is his voice.

[LordTerminal]

There is only two words I can say that describes The Fuhrer after what I just saw. And you can take a big fat guess what it is. Seriously, I hate that bastard for killing Marta. She and Alphonse had such a close friendship and it all ends with just one slow jab down Al's empty neck hole. I look forward to Bradley getting his ass kicked.......very much.

[Delthayre]

Well, I was right about der Führer. He's oozed an inordinant, even for a politician, amount of slime and something about his preposterous pretension at being such a super nice guy fueled a mistrustful fire in my head.

That bastard.

That was a very effective episode, both brothers have been brought to a point of emotional tension. Ed's reaction to what had befallen Rose was curious. While I can believe it, it's almost remarkable that he is still so unsettled by horrors that have nearly become routine in the world surrounding him. Then again, I suppose he wouldn't be any better for having that thing that gives horrors their named quality die inside of him. The situation in Leor is an interesting one and it was refreshing to have some of Scar's past made clearer.

Marta being murdered while inside of Al was very effective. The whole scene seeped the sort of emotional horror All must've felt. The chimeras from Laboratory Five have proven unexpectedly sympathetic. Marta and Al had a curious and endearing relationship growing between them, one I didn't expect to end so soon, or so quietly. I suppose that's what gives the scene its potency, der Führer's brisk nonchalence in killing and Al's faintly voiced revulsion leave much that the viewer quite often cannot help but fill in himself, a both enlivening and enervating thing.

**** out of *****

[livingfruitvirus]

RIP, Al's sanity, Marta, Scar's brother, Rose's sanity, the people of Lior, unknowing soldiers used for explosions.
You forgot Hughes.

[Solitude1]

OMG! That was horrible....

Poor Scar. Poor Rose. Poor Al....Poor Marta. HELL, I even feel sorry for Lust and Greed.

And the Fuhrer is a homunculi huh/ Doesn't that make him Pride since that is the only one left for the seven sins?

Man...what a ****ed up ep. That ending with Al having Marta's blood on him.....my god that's going to be one hell of a mess to clean up.

5 stars.

[A.Magik]

Well, when a character has the title of Fuhrer, you kinda suspect what side he's really on. Thank Adolf Hitler for ruining that title for good.

A.Magik

[Dr. Strange]

My God...

5/5

[Timmay]

You forgot Hughes.
I was just talking about this one episode.

[Gatomon41]

Well, I was right about der Führer. He's oozed an inordinant, even for a politician, amount of slime and something about his preposterous pretension at being such a super nice guy fueled a mistrustful fire in my head.

That bastard.

That was a very effective episode, both brothers have been brought to a point of emotional tension. The situation in Leor is an interesting one and it was refreshing to have some of Scar's past made clearer.

Marta being murdered while inside of Al was very effective. The whole scene seeped the sort of emotional horror All must've felt.

**** out of *****Well the Furher pulled a great Palpatine on me.

Everything about him just seemed Likeable. His smile, his kind voice, even his damenor wanted me to say "what a nice guy." Very sneaky dude.

[HanaKirei]

The very end of the last scene always gets to me. :crying: Poor, poor Al.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Great one.

[judyindisguise]

Whoa. Poor Marta. That was the grimmest, grossest toon death I have ever seen.

Or should I say "poor Al'? Ewwww....

[JOKESONU]

Wow, that was the most intense episode I have ever seen. I so wish they would just do a marathon and show all the remaining eps in one night. The show is just that god damn addicting.

First the Ed and Scar rematch was really good. I loved how ed found a way to prevent scar from blowing apart his automal.

And although it was hinted at, we have the offical creation of lust explained.

And we know know how Scar got his scar, how he got his arm, and what happened to his brother.

And the Furher is now officially exposed as pride. Well to us anyway. And his murder of Marda was downright horribale. I didn't see that coming.

And poor al, he now has to take a long ass shower.

whew, this ep had so many revelations and plot twist I couldn't believe it ended so quick.

The next 7 days till the next ep are going to be very very long.

[Delthayre]

Well the Furher pulled a great Palpatine on me.

Everything about him just seemed Likeable. His smile, his kind voice, even his damenor wanted me to say "what a nice guy." Very sneaky dude.
Exactly, it was his nice guy demeanor that first set my suspicions alight. Men in power are seldom that sweet, unless they're trying to fool your, or are fools themselves.

[livingfruitvirus]

I was just talking about this one episode.You should mention him anyway because he's *****in.

[AlienOmega]

Think Marta had enough time to tell Al what the Fuhrer really is? It sounded like she went silent, but I guess from Al's reaction she told him everything, without the audience (us) knowing what was said. But guess the real question is, what does Al do now? Tell Ed? Or Mustang?

I guess I'll be the 54,637,461th person to say that this was a VERY good episode. 4.5 out of 5

[Humble]

Nothing makes the blood boil like watching some SOB get away with horrible things. :mad:

-Humble

[KojiroTakenashi]

Anyone else get the feeling they intended to revive Ed as a Homunculus?

That's not Lyra, is it? That's gotta be Dante!

[JShaggy]

The series is getting darker and darker towards the end of the series, as this episode showed a lot of tragedy take place. At least now, this episode revealed that the Fuhrer orchestrated it all (the war, chimeras, and the gathering of homonculi). And if that left eye wasn't evidence enough ... The Fuhrer is the seventh sin, Pride.Funny to see Gluttony say something other than "can I eat him?" for a change.

Oh yeah, and it was sad to see Marta get killed like that, with her blood seeping out of Al's armor.

[NickWhiz1]

Episodes like this just reinforce the feeling of "God I freakin' love this show".

So many plot twists, and we still have 11 episodes left to go!

...And Rewrite in two episodes :D

*****

[KaidoYuji8Adam]

Wait a Sec.
I am now confused. Are the homunculus in the manga the same as in the anime? I mean..are they made the same way?
A la Lust from Scar's brother's girl?
What about sloth? ED and Al's mother?
Is the Furer's Secrectary even a homunculus in the manga?

[PickHut]

DRAMA!!

Anyways, I figured Marta was gonna die soon, considering she likes to pop out a lot and attack people without thinking. But eck, what a way to go out.

I give The Scar a B+.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

WOW
That ending was amazing.
The blood through AL's armor was so sad and deep. They did that really well and it made me get really upest over Marta.
It was like right out of a horror movie or something..the way he dove his sword right into Al.....:eek:
POOR ROSE!...i take it she was raped:crying:

[cadence]

Rose was gang-raped by soldiers.... daaaaamn :mad:
Ehh... I was wondering where that kid came from...and where that trauma came from

...................

That's MESSED up...if that's the case then I wouldn't mind Scar making a stone out of those f****rs.

[FlyByNite77]

Wait a Sec.
I am now confused. Are the homunculus in the manga the same as in the anime? I mean..are they made the same way?
A la Lust from Scar's brother's girl?
What about sloth? ED and Al's mother?
Is the Furer's Secrectary even a homunculus in the manga?Well I'm about up to chapter 40 in the manga and so I can only go by that, but...

Homunculus are not said to have been made the same way, 'their father' makes them by putting a philosopher's stone in their chest and animating them that way. Roy and Havoc meet up with Lust and that's when she reveals what is inside her and Roy actually rips it out of her before she gets it back from him... She was never revealed to have any connection to Scar and it was never hinted at in the chapters I've read.

Ed and Al's Mom has not appeared. Sloth is shown as a muscular guy who was doing some kind of work in an underground cavern and wasn't their Mom. The Fuhrer is actually Wrath in the manga and Izumi's kid wasn't wrath. Although she did try to bring back her kid.

Apparently from what I've read in the manga the only thing that comes from human transmutation in the manga is that you pay a big price and you learn the true knowledge from the gate and are able to do alchemy without the transmutation circle.

[Ultra8]

AAaargh! Stupid satelite connection!! :crying: :mad: :crying:
My tv's been showing nothing but broken images and distortion since it became evening. The only scenes I made out was one with Merta attacking the Furher, then a scene with his eye showing the Uroboros tatoo, then a scene with Merta going inside Al, next a sword and finally bleeding Al.:eek: :crying:
Can someone please give a more detailed review?

[purplehairedwonder]

What an episode. I thought the Fuhrer might be Pride and it seems I was right. And poor Marta. That was a very effective scene and I was covering my mouth for a good five minutes after. Just damn. Not to mention the revelations of Scar and Rose. I really love this show.

****.5/*****

[NahMan85]

WOW
That ending was amazing.
The blood through AL's armor was so sad and deep. They did that really well and it made me get really upest over Marta.
It was like right out of a horror movie or something..the way he dove his sword right into Al.....:eek:
POOR ROSE!...i take it she was raped:crying:
From what everyone is saying, I guess so. But that still isn't right in any sense. I'm assuming that she was raped before the show even started because she also showed up at the begining of the show right, or am I wrong and it was somewhere in between the entire run of the show which would be about what 8-12 years, I think. Man that Al scene at the end was like a "WTF" for me because all the blood and just thinking of what she must have been thinking as the sword was going through her. Man I shouldn't try to answer questions that I really don't know the answer to. Sorry. :sweat: But the ep gets a 10/10 from me because it was damn good. With so much info that my head was over loaded.

[Vallen Valiant]

Two more ep till "Rewrite", is it? Ep 42 was when it was screened in Japan...

You are gonna love the new Opening...:D

Good thing too, since ReadySteadyGo as an Opening no longer made any sense by this stage. Soon we will have a new Opening that actually fit the darker atmosphere of the series' march towards the end...

Have fun speculating on the new OPanimation!

[FlyByNite77]

Two more ep till "Rewrite", is it? Ep 42 was when it was screened in Japan...

You are gonna love the new Opening...:D

Good thing too, since ReadySteadyGo as an Opening no longer made any sense by this stage. Soon we will have a new Opening that actually fit the darker atmosphere of the series' march towards the end...

Have fun speculating on the new OPanimation!Has funimation said we'll get Ready, Steady, Go replaced with Rewrite as an opening for Adult Swim?

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I'm assuming that she was raped before the show even started because she also showed up at the begining of the show right, or am I wrong and it was somewhere in between the entire run of the show which would be about what 8-12 years, I think.

Theres a scence were Ed and Al first meet Marco [or around there] were it shows Rose with some little kids in a house while Lior is being blown apart.
Some soilders come in and start asking questions..so i think it happened around then since the military had been there.

[Tash]

If they DID drag Ed's corpse back to the station, wouldn't Wrath's limbs start melting off or something?

And I assume that Wrath was the one who walked out of Sloth. So where (or who) has Envy been this whole time? Hmm... Just something to think about.

Hold up, we're actually getting "Rewrite"? No, we arn't.

[NahMan85]

Theres a scence were Ed and Al first meet Marco [or around there] were it shows Rose with some little kids in a house while Lior is being blown apart.
Some soilders come in and start asking questions..so i think it happened around then since the military had been there.
I don't remember that episode, which one was it? Something I forgot to add in my other post, How do they plan on getting what's her name out of Al's armor? Forget about trying to clean the blood that will come out with bleach, that is if they have that kind of thing in there time period, which I doubt by the way.

[Vallen Valiant]

Hold up, we're actually getting "Rewrite"? No, we arn't.


Rats... Oh well. DVD it is.

So can you offer the source for that conformation? Just want to check... Thanks.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I don't remember that episode, which one was it?Um, i think it was the one right before Ed and Al leave to go to get his Automail fixed.
I think it was episode 14, or the one right after it...
it was a quick scence were rose shouts 'we have legs we'll get up and use them' after being slapped in the face by a military person.

[Tash]

Rats... Oh well. DVD it is.

So can you offer the source for that conformation? Just want to check... Thanks.It was announced before the show aired in the US that Ready Steady Go! would be the ONLY theme song on the AS airing. (at a con of some sort I believe)

[Delthayre]

It was announced before the show aired in the US that Ready Steady Go! would be the ONLY theme song on the AS airing. (at a con of some sort I believe)
I believe there was a contrary announcement some weeks ago that Asian Kung Fu Generation had also been given a promotional deal and that Rewrite would indeed replace the now somewhat disconcerting Read, Steady, Go! from episode 42 onward. I recall having found some documentation supporting this at the time, but I honestly have no idea how I would go about findng a source to evidence this.

[LucheLibre]

What a final scene. Just...what a final scene. I'm amazed at how the creators took the time since we first saw Marta in Lab 5 as just a quick extra through her life and motives and came to make us care so much about her and curse the blankity-blanking blank blank who killed her.

And Scar...what a backstory, eh? And the dub on this episode was beyond top notch. I'm glad that the show allowed Scar's VA to just talk in a muted, sorrowful tone, with only a little bit of the edge he normally had to portray. He really nailed that.

Once again, my addiction to this show is deepened farther beyond rational and reasonable limits. How I love a show that does that.

However, despite all of the sadness, the ep. gave me one very, very happy thought.

Al finally won a fight. I swear, I've been waiting so long for him to break out and show that insane soul-driven speed inherent in the armor, and that's he an intelligent fighter. Ed's been getting the limelight this whole series as the fighter, and yet we've always known that Al could take down even him in hand-to-hand. Now all I need is for Al to open up a giant can on a homonculus and I can die happy and at peace.

[G1Ravage]

OUCH...I mean, for Al, with Marta inside him, and then the sword and the blood and....ouch. That's horrible. :crying:

If Al thought it originally felt weird to have someone inside of him, what could he possibly be feeling now?? And now what does he do? Is he gonna take his head off and reach in and try to fish her out?? :eek:

Best action show on [as] in a long time.

[TnAdct1]

Two things I have to say about tonight's episode:

1. Am I the only one here who sees the irony in that the lady who eventually serves as Rose's "voice" after becoming mute is the character that's voiced by Monica Rial?

2. Damnit! Another character that's quickly becoming enjoyable kicks the bucket (first Hughes, then Greed, now Marta).

[NahMan85]

Two things I have to say about tonight's episode:

1. Am I the only one here who sees the irony in that the lady who eventually serves as Rose's "voice" after becoming mute is the character that's voiced by Monica Rial?

2. Damnit! Another character that's quickly becoming enjoyable kicks the bucket (first Hughes, then Greed, now Marta).

1. Yeah, who now?

2. I tend to agree, how many more deaths like this will there be.

Please just give me a number if you guys are even going to think about answering #2.

[Vallen Valiant]

Two things I have to say about tonight's episode:

1. Am I the only one here who sees the irony in that the lady who eventually serves as Rose's "voice" after becoming mute is the character that's voiced by Monica Rial?

2. Damnit! Another character that's quickly becoming enjoyable kicks the bucket (first Hughes, then Greed, now Marta).
1. Well, knowing Eva, playing an emotionally disturbed voice is no stranger to Monica Rial...:anime:

2. What's the point of killing someone the audience doesn't care about? BONES enjoys toying with the emotion of the viewers. Don't worry, to balance it out, characters you hate will get killed too... eventually... but only after more innocent people dies...:evil:

[Delthayre]

1. Yeah, who now?
Monica Rial is a voice actress known for soft-spoken parts (i.e. Hyatt in Excel Saga and Kirika in Noir). So her becoming the vicarious voice of a mute is a little ironic.

[NahMan85]

OUCH...I mean, for Al, with Marta inside him, and then the sword and the blood and....ouch. That's horrible. :crying:

If Al thought it originally felt weird to have someone inside of him, what could he possibly be feeling now?? And now what does he do? Is he gonna take his head off and reach in and try to fish her out?? :eek:

Best action show on [as] in a long time.
Yeah for real how is that going to happen, Ed is going to have to pull him apart or something. Man this will be a hard one to understand. But what will end up happening is that they will skip that whole part and just skip to the funeral scene or something along those lines, IMO I guess.

[NahMan85]

Monica Rial is a voice actress known for soft-spoken parts (i.e. Hyatt in Excel Saga and Kirika in Noir). So her becoming the vicarious voice of a mute is a little ironic.
Oh, ok, now I get it. I didn't know that tid bit of information.

[Timmay]

Has funimation said we'll get Ready, Steady, Go replaced with Rewrite as an opening for Adult Swim? I KNOW there was a thread on this forum about it.

According to the wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist

"Ready Steady Go" and "Rewrite" are the only openings playing on Cartoon Network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Network)'s Adult Swim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim) because of a deal with L'Arc~en~Ciel and Asian Kung-Fu Generation to promote their songs. The DVD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD) releases from FUNimation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUNimation) will include all openings in their original places.

[Vallen Valiant]

Yeah for real how is that going to happen, Ed is going to have to pull him apart or something. Man this will be a hard one to understand. But what will end up happening is that they will skip that whole part and just skip to the funeral scene or something along those lines, IMO I guess.Funeral? For a rebel? When the ruler of the nation is a Sin?

Nevermind a proper burial, she would be lucky if her corpse doesn't get fed to the dogs. They don't show what happened to her body afterwards, and frankly no one wants to know...

[TigeronStarfire]

Wow. Heh. All things considered, I do find it kind of interesting that Marta dies the exact same way as in the manga, only much earlier when the Furher (Wrath) attacks Greed at the sewers beneath his lair.

Also, not to make you guys upset or anything but...I checked the schedule, and thanks to AS marathons of PHF and 12 oz. Mouse for Christmas and New Years, it'll be at least a good three weeks before we get to see new FMA episodes. <=3 Yeah, I know, after this, it's gonna suck, but eh, be strong!

[Jay]

Anyone else get the feeling they intended to revive Ed as a Homunculus?
Thanks for the spoiler man you have ruin the series for me you deserve a ban for that.

[Delthayre]

Thanks for the spoiler man you have ruin the series for me you deserve a ban for that. It wasn't a spoiler, it was a speculation, on what exactly, I'm not sure, but considering that it's phrased as a question about theoretical intent, I don't think it constitutes a spoiler.

[NahMan85]

Funeral? For a rebel? When the ruler of the nation is a Sin?

Nevermind a proper burial, she would be lucky if her corpse doesn't get fed to the dogs. They don't show what happened to her body afterwards, and frankly no one wants to know...
I guess your right. I didn't think she would really even be given a second thought. Man if they were in control they would probably just order Al to just leave the corpse inside the armor. It's not like Al can really smell anything anyway. Man Ed kicking some ass after a while is pretty good.

[One Radical Dude]

I lost it at the end...

...whoa...am I the only one that felt Marta's death was more painful than Hughes's death? I got misty-eyed over Hughes being killed, but when Marta got killed by Bradley, it was worse. :crying::crying::crying:

...this series just doesn't fail to impress me. Wow.

[David Lucas]

Scar's explanation of what happened to Rose is a little more detailed than the original quote. Nothing too major added, it just helps connect the dots better.

I don't like Kimbley's voice, but the way the Fuhrer gave his "I have the Ultimate Eye." line was creepy as all hell! I love this guy's voice.

Speaking of love for voices, Al's crying at the end was heartbreaking, two thumbs way up for his VA.

[Spike Mcdougal]

Wow. Heh. All things considered, I do find it kind of interesting that Marta dies the exact same way as in the manga, only much earlier when the Furher (Wrath) attacks Greed at the sewers beneath his lair.

Also, not to make you guys upset or anything but...I checked the schedule, and thanks to AS marathons of PHF and 12 oz. Mouse for Christmas and New Years, it'll be at least a good three weeks before we get to see new FMA episodes. <=3 Yeah, I know, after this, it's gonna suck, but eh, be strong!I thought Bradley was Pride, although after seeing that it makes sense for him to be Wrath.

[One Radical Dude]

I agree -- Aaron Dismuke did an excellent job with Alphonse's emotions at the end. Honestly, this was more painful than losing Maes Hughes, and even Nina Tucker (I didn't think any other deaths would be worse than those two -- I was wrong). I guess both the images and Dismuke's performance did the trick.

[Bunai]

What a messed up episode!!!! :crying:

"pre-emption is a difficult concept for people to understand"

Hmm that sounds familiar ........... :sad:i was pretty amused. anime drama makes me laugh!! :anime:

"durr oh wait! i remember Dante telling me about that! wow talk about your better late then nevers!" XD AHHHH!

[Bunai]

gotta have some fun with this, i'm taking my slow day out on this episode.

shouldn't Scars eyes have exploded when his face did?

all the stuff Marta has done, and she dies inside Armor T_T yeeah. cheap death, but ya had to add the emotion somewhere. >_> guess i'm the only one that laughed when Marta was fighting Fuher...her limbs reminded me of Gumby XD

bastard villians are fun, so i'm quite fond of Fuher and Palpatine ^_^ they should hook up; but most likely they'd end up stabbing each other in the back.

Lust is getting annoying, even when shes not in an episode. don't know why...shes so...drool.
i guess i'm just morbid, cause when Kimbley starts blowing people up, the thought of it is just funny. reminds me of a silly mindless videogame called StateOfEmergency, someone will come out of no where and blow up when they impact on something.

the blood coming out of Al's armor...that just wasn't right, like...he hit puberty or something, or he spilled raspberry wine on his loin.

ANYWAY!
looking forward to the next ep!

[Sr.Infierno]

Only a couple more episodes till Hohenheim!

[peacebyanymeans]

gotta have some fun with this, i'm taking my slow day out on this episode.

shouldn't Scars eyes have exploded when his face did?
I took it that he only exploded his skin. And, plus, eyes don't have the same alchemic properties of flesh and skin.

all the stuff Marta has done, and she dies inside Armor T_T yeeah. cheap death, but ya had to add the emotion somewhere. >_> guess i'm the only one that laughed when Marta was fighting Fuher...her limbs reminded me of Gumby XD
Cheap death? What the hell? The guy walked up and stabbed the sword into the kids freakin' chest and stabbed her in the face.

How is that a cheap death?

bastard villians are fun, so i'm quite fond of Fuher and Palpatine ^_^ they should hook up; but most likely they'd end up stabbing each other in the back.
BTW, his new name is Popeatine, he looks like Benidict the XVI.

Lust is getting annoying, even when shes not in an episode. don't know why...shes so...drool.
...uh, okay?

i guess i'm just morbid, cause when Kimbley starts blowing people up, the thought of it is just funny. reminds me of a silly mindless videogame called StateOfEmergency, someone will come out of no where and blow up when they impact on something.
...

You're not right.

the blood coming out of Al's armor...that just wasn't right, like...he hit puberty or something, or he spilled raspberry wine on his loin.
Why would a guy start bleeding out of his crotch if hit puberty?

ANYWAY!
looking forward to the next ep!
AND MORE POINTLESS CRITICISM! YAY!

[Lachesis]

Little worried they were going to cut the blood for a minute there.

Poor Al.

[Demon Child]

awww...Poor Al and Marta! Poor Rose too! I know Rose was shown in was of the earliest episodes, but I never saw it.

Who exactly is Rose?

[NickWhiz1]

Who exactly is Rose?The girl that Ed and Al met in their first trip to Lior (episodes 1 and 2).

[TnAdct1]

Monica Rial is a voice actress known for soft-spoken parts (i.e. Hyatt in Excel Saga and Kirika in Noir). So her becoming the vicarious voice of a mute is a little ironic. It's close, but not exactly what I meant (although Monica's tendency to play soft-spoken parts does make her a possible candidate to play Nodoka in the upcoming Negima dub).

The irony that I'm talking about refers to how, whenever there's a mute character in an ADV-licensed show, Monica is usually the one who provides the voice for the character.

[Saiko]

Best episode so far and what an ending. I was really hoping Marta wasn't gonna die and if she did get to tell Al about the Fuhrer then she didn't die pointlessly.

I didn't see Rose being a mute coming. Seeing the baby with her and hearing that comment about the military and the terrible things they've done you think the baby came from a military guy? Thats sick and wrong out of the whole episode that bothered me the most.
Scar's past was good stuff, very interesting. I always wanted to know where his scar came from. His idea about evacuating the city waiting fro the military cracked me up. As much as its wrong from Scars point of view it makes sense and is perfect justice after what waht happened to Ishbahl.

[One Radical Dude]

I always knew Bradley was a nasty, vicious character -- before taking out Marta. He's definitely at the very bottom of my list of favorites. Hopefully, Marta was able to tell Al about what she witnessed. RIP, Marta.

As for Rose, poor Rose. :sad:

[Space Chief]

Holy ****ing Rowsdower on a pogo stick.

Wow. This episode was incredible. The long awaited Scar backstory (Am I the only person who thought Scar's injury was more disturbing than Marta's?), The truth about Rose, and Marta basically exploding, judging from the blood.

Looks like I was right a few weeks ago on what Scar's brother gave up. (Crosses legs)

Heh, I thought the human transmutation ended up looking like a Gentle Giant album cover. (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bean95/cd/images/22692f.jpg)

And Pride. Finally. Remember a few weeks back when the talkback threads were little more than "OMG who's Pride???/?". I always suspected Bradley- He is "The Fuhrer", after all. And he always had that eyepatch.

5/5. Blows episode 25 out of the water.

[NahMan85]

Why did Rose go mute again? I didn't hear the exact reason why she went mute. I mean I think it had something to do with the rape but I could be wrong. I saw both the first and second run and still missed the part, damn. I believe the part was when Scar and Ed were fighting and all of a sudden Rose and that other girl (don't know who that is) and they made them both stop fighting and they explained why she went mute with like two lines of speech.

[Strollymonster]

Why did Rose go mute again? I didn't hear the exact reason why she went mute. I mean I think it had something to do with the rape but I could be wrong. I saw both the first and second run and still missed the part, damn. I believe the part was when Scar and Ed were fighting and all of a sudden Rose and that other girl (don't know who that is) and they made them both stop fighting and they explained why she went mute with like two lines of speech.
She was traumatized by the experience and hasn't spoken since. I kinda get the feeling that seeing Ed again will break her out of it, though, and we'll get some backstory from her.

So, the seventh Sin was sitting out in the open the entire time...wonder what Hughes would think if he realized he had completely missed that it wasn't just the secretary...it was the Fuhrer as well.

This opens the question of how long the Fuhrer has been a homunculus...that is, has he been one for the entirity of the series ever since we first met him, or was he silently replaced by Pride at some point? Either way, he's downright freaky evil. What is his power with that eye?

Poor Marta...I was getting to like her, too.

Kimbley got his butt kicked by Al, which is nice to see.

Scar's backstory finally uncovered...so it was Kimbley that gave the scar and removed the arm. We also find out the true power it possesses, along with the story of Lust and a way that she can be defeated.

I REALLY don't trust Lyra, especially since she gave no explanation regarding her confrontation with Greed when she used that circle to drain him of his incomplete Philosopher's stones...we still don't know who murdered Dante. I personally suspect her.

The homunculi are starting to clear up a bit...we know now who Lust, Sloth, and Wrath were originally, but Pride, Envy, Greed, and Gluttony are all still mysteries as to their creation...

One last thing that bugs me...Ed said that someone must be taking in the homunculi and teaching them, as well as augmenting their powers. Is that supposed to be Pride/Fuhrer, or is it...someone else?

[NahMan85]

She was traumatized by the experience and hasn't spoken since.
Yeah I thought as much.

[JOKESONU]

About Rose now mute state. I saw this in a bad movie once

But if a bunch of soilders took her and now she won't talk

they probablly pulled/knocked out all her teeth so she could preform better oral sexual acts.

That would explain why she refuses to open her mouth.

And for that Spoiler/speculation debate.

I have always been wondering about that.

Even though the process takes a few extra steps of consumption of red stones, a Homonculis succeeds in physically recreating the dead person.

The only thing missing is the soul.

But if Ed can attach Als soul to a suit of armor, couldn't ed just create a homonculis of Al, and put the blood seal on the homonculis.

That way, Al would have his body back, but would know also have super powers and more or less be unkillable as a tradeoff of not being able to preform alchemy.

[Vallen Valiant]

One last thing that bugs me...Ed said that someone must be taking in the homunculi and teaching them, as well as augmenting their powers. Is that supposed to be Pride/Fuhrer, or is it...someone else?

Well, there is always "The Master"... You know, the person Lust and Gluttony fear.;)


Even though the process takes a few extra steps of consumption of red stones, a Homonculis succeeds in physically recreating the dead person.

The only thing missing is the soul.

But if Ed can attach Als soul to a suit of armor, couldn't ed just create a homonculis of Al, and put the blood seal on the homonculis.

That way, Al would have his body back, but would know also have super powers and more or less be unkillable as a tradeoff of not being able to preform alchemy.
I refuse to answer that "toothless" comment. Bad taste, and anyway do you have any idea losing one's teeth can drasticaly alter one's appearance? It's useful in low-class bar room jokes, but entirely fictional.

Anyway, what makes you think Ed hasn't thought of making Al's body?

If it's that easy to recreate human flesh, why can't Ed just transmute his real arm and leg back? It's because he can't. Human flesh creation falls under human transmutation, with or without a soul. Turning flesh into something else, like stone, pillar of salt, or a bomb? Easy. Combining two lifeforms with unstable results? easy.

But making exact, living, human flesh? Even without a soul? The red stones are too weak for that. That what the PStone is for. Don't forget what Sloth looked like when she was first transmuted...

[ShadowGUN]

So, the seventh Sin was sitting out in the open the entire time...wonder what Hughes would think if he realized he had completely missed that it wasn't just the secretary...it was the Fuhrer as well.

This opens the question of how long the Fuhrer has been a homunculus...that is, has he been one for the entirity of the series ever since we first met him, or was he silently replaced by Pride at some point? Either way, he's downright freaky evil. What is his power with that eye?

You forgot to mention the fact the Fuhrer has wife too. At least that what he told the guy he left in charge. Wonder what that all about?

Also what does his Ultimate Eye do anyway?

[Tash]

You forgot to mention the fact the Fuhrer has wife too. At least that what he told the guy he left in charge. Wonder what that all about?

Also what does his Ultimate Eye do anyway?It either lets him see into the future, or can read people's movments. Probably the first one.

[ShadowGUN]

It either lets him see into the future, or can read people's movments. Probably the first one.
Let hope not. He is the leader and that would be a lame power compared to the others Sins.

[peacebyanymeans]

I'm pretty sure his eye lets him see things that normally couldn't be. Like through objects and other thinks, such as the wind current (how do you think he knew she was in Al?)

[Youko Recca]

Let hope not. He is the leader and that would be a lame power compared to the others Sins.
Since when is he the leader?

[silvanoir]

Man, I'm feelin' depressed after last night's Fullmetal Alchemist episode. :(


What got me was how brutal Marta's death was. I mean, poor Al, having your friend die inside of you? That would be enough to drive me permanently crazy. And what happened to Rose to make her mute, Jeez! And every other dark situation going on last night. I don't see any of it being able to turn out happily.


So, do the Sins want all of the Isballans to die so they can make a Philsopher's Stone (that is until they heard they can use Scar to make one)? I think I heard it mentioned that it would take the genocide of an entire race to make one. And that would explain why the war was started in the first place.

[Yash]

Scar ;_;

Rose ;;_;;

Marta ;;;_;;;

9/10

[ShadowGUN]

Since when is he the leader?
1)In the last episode Lust says that Pride order her to kill Ed.

2)Pride is the Fureh. That means he sit a top of the food chain.

3) According to history and religion Pride is the worse of sins since all sin come from it.(don't worry the link below is about the religious meaning of pride not FMA version)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride

[LostKunoichi]

:sweat: That was sooooo sad. Everything made me want to cry...Rose.....Marta...Al.....stupid Pride.....Scar....even Lust. Geez...it suck to be a overemotional girl sometimes sniff.:sweat:

[Timmay]

1)In the last episode Lust says that Pride order her to kill Ed.

2)Pride is the Fureh. That means he sit a top of the food chain.

3) According to history and religion Pride is the worse of sins since all sin come from it.(don't worry the link below is about the religious meaning of pride not FMA version)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride He's not the leader though.
With a quick look at last episode (japanese version)

1) Gluttony says "Pride was saying, that the Ishbal..". Then Lust says "She said to kill anyone who finds out the secret of Ishbal."
2) It's just a military position
3) You're right, but that makes no difference here.

I don't know if it's a matter of a translation error or if you just misheard, but Pride didn't order Lust.

[Youko Recca]

Yeah, he might be the strongest of the sins, but he isn't the leader.

[Singularity]

He's not stronger. He simply has a power that allows him to determine the best outcome of a situation in a short time. Alas, this is never explained in the anime.

[Spike Mcdougal]

1)In the last episode Lust says that Pride order her to kill Ed.

2)Pride is the Fureh. That means he sit a top of the food chain.

3) According to history and religion Pride is the worse of sins since all sin come from it.(don't worry the link below is about the religious meaning of pride not FMA version)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride
So I was right

[AlienOmega]

Let hope not. He is the leader and that would be a lame power compared to the others Sins.Ya know, now that I think about it while as a power it isn't as sexy as the others, for a leader it would be the most useful. Think about it, with his speed and strength being able to see the future or track an opponent's movements would make him untouchable. Also if a leader of a group like them can see the future he can plan way ahead, even killing off a potential threat before they even know what's going on.

That's just my take on it, assuming any of those are his powers. We'll just have to see what comes up in later episodes.

[Youko Recca]

He's not stronger. He simply has a power that allows him to determine the best outcome of a situation in a short time. Alas, this is never explained in the anime.
Well, yeah. I meant stronger as in overall, not physically. And I'm just guessing at that, given what I've observed over the show and manga.

[Timmay]

He's not stronger. He simply has a power that allows him to determine the best outcome of a situation in a short time. Alas, this is never explained in the anime.
The manga's version of Bradley's backstory is so great too.. he also has the whole physical training to the point where he could accept Father's wrath

[Youko Recca]

That reminds me, I never read that part.

[Freedom Fighter]

Coming in, I honestly thought the Fuhrer was going to strike down Marta right at the start (but apparently, they saved the 'best' for last).

So now Scar's history is filled in... how his brother died, where Lust originated from, how Scar got that ugly face scar and the markings on his wrist/hand. Kimblee just scratches the surface when it comes to the evils of the military.

Speaking of which... how dare they do 'that' to Rose! I obviously am now rooting for Scar to go through with upending Lior and taking those damn military dogs with them!

And of all the ways to go... ouch, RIP Marta. Man, for a split second, I had thought Al had opened the area between his head and neck just enough for the Fuhrer's sword to sneak in. Then I realized that they were doing it in somewhat slow-motion to add to the griping effect of Marta being slain while inside of Al. What will the poor boy be like after this tragedy?

8 out of 10 for "The Scar."

[Bunai]

welcome to "missed the point of the post" 101~!! yeesh...grab some humor in it, you think i was being serious? i gave away why i typed my post this way right at the beginning.

I took it that he only exploded his skin. And, plus, eyes don't have the same alchemic properties of flesh and skin.Noted



Cheap death? What the hell? The guy walked up and stabbed the sword into the kids freakin' chest and stabbed her in the face.

How is that a cheap death?
the show made her look very tough and the type of character that goes down fighting, not just sitting there to get stabbed. i thought it was cheap...*shrugs*


BTW, his new name is Popeatine, he looks like Benidict the XVI. i was talking about Palpatine/Darth Sidious from Star Wars! not the guy from the first episode. doyi XD


...uh, okay? she is getting boring to me. its like she should be Sloth.


...

You're not right.
keyword "morbid" + "humor" = "strange" i think its funny...sue me.


Why would a guy start bleeding out of his crotch if hit puberty? he wouldn't...thats the point of the joke.


AND MORE POINTLESS CRITICISM! YAY! and more pointless...YOU TAKE THINGS TOO SERIOUSLY YAY! :shrug:

[adoptedBatpuppy]

Well, I kind of knew about the Fuherer, since the store clerk spoiled it for me!
Poor, Marta! She should have told Al first before atacking Fuherer like that.
Still, it was creepy the way Fuherer killed her... He obviously doesn't understand that action can leave Al scarred for life. I guess he is scarred already. :(

I still didn't get what hapened to Rose? When did she had that baby is it Scar's, also didn't Rose had a father?

Well at lest now we know what Scar is planning! The thing his brother lost for attempting human transmutation. Which was obvious from the beggining... his brain :eek: .

The way he looked in the flash back was creepy.

Was that Kimbly who attacked Scar and his brother?
Do we know whom Envy, Gluttony, also their homoncili boss are created from? Will we find out later on? Thanks

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I still didn't get what hapened to Rose? When did she had that baby is it Scar's, also didn't Rose had a father?Well it basically looks as if Rose was raped by some one in the military, since it says they took her, did something really bad, and she couldn't speak after words. I really do not think the baby is Scar's...actually im positive it's not because 1.) She's a minor, and Scars not that type, and 2.) It takes a while for a baby to be born and scar was not around her at all in that time.


Was that Kimbly who attacked Scar and his brother?
Yupp!

[David Lucas]

Cheap death? What the hell? The guy walked up and stabbed the sword into the kids freakin' chest and stabbed her in the face.
You know, I never really viewed it as a cheap death, especially since she obviously can't defend or attack against him for his abilities are far superior. She was running for her life, and she didn't realize he was behind Alphonse until the sword was already coming down.

But I never even thought of the idea that he stabbed her through the face. Logically, her face would be the only place Bradley's sword could reach from that angle....

.....it just makes me imagine what happened inside the armor and it makes me miss Marta a lot more.

<sigh> Bye babe. Even if your lips did look weird yet strangel arousing.

[Gatomon41]

You know, I never really viewed it as a cheap death, especially since she obviously can't defend or attack against him for his abilities are far superior. She was running for her life, and she didn't realize he was behind Alphonse until the sword was already coming down.

But I never even thought of the idea that he stabbed her through the face. Logically, her face would be the only place Bradley's sword could reach from that angle....

.....it just makes me imagine what happened inside the armor and it makes me miss Marta a lot more..I think that's what gives the scene more of an impact. You don't see the sword killing poor Marta, but you can still feel the heart break.


<sigh> Bye babe. Even if your lips did look weird yet strangel arousing
I thought her lips was very distingishing and memorable about her. Gives her more unqiueness.

[NahMan85]

I think that's what gives the scene more of an impact. You don't see the sword killing poor Marta, but you can still feel the heart break.

I thought her lips was very distingishing and memorable about her. Gives her more unqiueness.
Is someone falling for an anime character? I think so.

[G1Ravage]

When this episode is finally released by FUNimation on DVD, it had better have a commentary track including Aaron Dismuke.

[NahMan85]

How did the hook up between Scar, Rose and the other lady happen? Are Scar and Rose related? Just wondering.

[Gatomon41]

How did the hook up between Scar, Rose and the other lady happen?
Plot Device.

Are Scar and Rose related? Just wondering.
Ishbal and Lior seem preety close to each other. Although, I though Ishbal was larger than just one city...

[NahMan85]

Ishbal and Lior seem preety close to each other. Although, I though Ishbal was larger than just one city...
So...what then? I'm not following. Man on a side note I finally got to understanding why Hughes was killed, I saw tonight's rerun, (yeah I know how late this is for you smart men and women of the show) but the way he was killed was annoying. He had a scratch and a GSW to the right chest area.

Not sure how to say this but I don't understand why he died from something like that. Was it done that way as a dramatic affect because then I would understand? Could it have been that lethal a shot? Or was he poisned some way by the cut on his shoulder? Sorry if I seem to be overanalyzing things. :sweat:

[Vallen Valiant]

How did the hook up between Scar, Rose and the other lady happen? Are Scar and Rose related? Just wondering.
You will know why soon enough. There isn't many coincidences in this show.

So...what then? I'm not following. Man on a side note I finally got to understanding why Hughes was killed, I saw tonight's rerun, (yeah I know how late this is for you smart men and women of the show) but the way he was killed was annoying. He had a scratch and a GSW to the right chest area.

Not sure how to say this but I don't understand why he died from something like that. Was it done that way as a dramatic affect because then I would understand? Could it have been that lethal a shot? Or was he poisned some way by the cut on his shoulder? Sorry if I seem to be overanalyzing things. :sweat:Hughes died because his own nation's leader (Pride) wants him dead. Even if he survived the attack he won't have survived the medical treatment.

[NahMan85]

You will know why soon enough. There isn't many coincidences in this show.

Hughes died because his own nation's leader (Pride) wants him dead. Even if he survived the attack he won't have survived the medical treatment.
Alright, I guess I have to wait a little longer, oh well. :yawn: Thanks for the info. Man I am patient but waiting really sucks. That and the fact that I hate surprises.

[Vallen Valiant]

Alright, I guess I have to wait a little longer, oh well. :yawn: Thanks for the info. Man I am patient but waiting really sucks. That and the fact that I hate surprises.
FMA is all about surprises.:D

[NahMan85]

FMA is all about surprises.:D
I should probably hate the show to the core but it is the exact opposite with me. There's big surprise for ya.

[BDawg]

The thing I hate is the lack of replays outside of Saturday night. I was out of town now I have no idea when I'll see this, especially since they're screwing up the weekday schedule soon.