C&C - S-Cry-Ed - "Dream" [12/10]

[Captain Zechs]

YES, I do have permission from the Mods, Anyways...

In a world of Good and Bad, Cunning and Dumb, Polite and Rude, Reckless and Cautious we have 2 heroes, Kazuma and Ryuhou. Kazuma, an alter user that is a complete rebel against the Mainland group called "Holy". Ryuhou, a "cop" to put away all Alter users that are against "Holy". Completely different, right?
Right.
Well these 2 came together to defeat each other, but in the end, came together to save a girl named Kanami, with the alter power to be able to see into one's true thoughts. Now, the Mainland is out to get them, but what do they want to do?
Fight to see who is the best.
How much better does it get?
Not Much.
So...with this last episode, remember...
S-Cry-Ed Kicks Ass!


Tonight (Or Early Morning) we have in the ring...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bobklause/Kazuma.jpg VS http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bobklause/Ryuhou.jpg


The Winner?
TBA



(But IMO I think it will be...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bobklause/jkh.jpg)


(Note: I inverted the pics because they do that for a lot of fights, and its early so I dont forget lol)


Enjoy!


Edit: Since Nahman pointed it out...the "a" in "named" has been added, Picky, Picky lol I probably just didn't hit the button hard enough lol...

[NahMan85]

But you misspelled the word named in your post. But yeah good thread though. This episdoe will the be the best and the end-all-be-all of the ending a series, where have you had the two main heros in a series battle eachother at the end like in Scryed?

[anime_guru]

not the best and the series ended last week for me, though this is a good fight...a really good fight...and well we all know who wins...

[Mr. Toto]

This episode contains the best fight in the entire series (in my opinion), so look forward to that. The loose ends have been tied up early, and now it's time for some good ol' fashioned fighting.

[Duke]

After this week, one less sticky thread on the boards...

[Youko Recca]

This episode contains the best fight in the entire series (in my opinion), so look forward to that. The loose ends have been tied up early, and now it's time for some good ol' fashioned fighting.
Yes, so I hear. Every person who I've come in contact with who's finished this show, says this fight is the best. So, in a way, I'm looking foward to it.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I kno alot of ppl don't exactly like SCRYED ,but im really upset it's gunna end!:crying:

[Timmay]

Oh, I absolutely hated this episode when I first watched it.. I hardly remember the fight scene.. but really.. I wish it would've ended with a tie-up-loose-ends episode instead of having this fight episode.

[Tenku]

The ED played...

[Gatomon41]

Wait, are Cougar and kazuma really Brothers, or is that just an expression, like for freind?

[Timmay]

Wait, are Cougar and kazuma really Brothers, or is that just an expression, like for freind?
My understanding is that they're real brothers.

[Youko Recca]

OMGIBELIVEINDRASTICMYSOUL!!!!

[Duke]

Mimori can't seem to grasp the fact that men like to beat the crap out of each other for no reason.

[Gatomon41]

My understanding is that they're real brothers.I do see a resembalnce in Face and personality...

[Duke]

I do see a resembalnce in Face and personality...*Insert cliché Hiashi Hirai joke here*

[Tenku]

Mimori can't seem to grasp the fact that men like to beat the crap out of each other for no reason.
My thought exactly. :rolleyes:

WTF...HE CAN REGENERATE?

[Solitude1]

OMG! Kazuma's arm!

EDIT: OMG! HE CAN REGENERATE?! This is kicking too much ass.:evil:

[NahMan85]

I do see a resembalnce in Face and personality...
In fact they are exactly the opposite from eachother, IMO.

[Gatomon41]

My thought exactly. :rolleyes:

WTF...HE CAN REGENERATE? Any Steven Jay Blum character has ability.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Not S-cry-ed's best performance so far, but entertaining.

Hearing "Drastic My Soul" rather than "Reckless Fire" was bizzare.

[jethrek]

A thoroughly mediocre series gets the worst final episode of any show ever. I mean really.

[NahMan85]

OMG! Kazuma's arm!

EDIT: OMG! HE CAN REJUVENATE?! This is kicking too much ass.:evil:
That looked really bad when his arm got chopped off like that. Man Kazuma looked so stupid when he was standing like a four legged animal on the rock.

[Timmay]

See how Kazuma can't remember names?

[Gatomon41]

Ah, werid Dream/Flashback Squences!

Sheris! YAY! :anime:

[Tenku]

...Kazuma looks like a wild beast.

A fight in SPACE? They're gonna disrupt the atmosphere!

[Gatomon41]

Great, this Show just went Dragonball Z.

Cougar LIVES! And Kazuma is his Little Bro!

[Duke]

SECOND IMPACT!

Mimori: "Is this the way men want to live their lives?"

YES!

[NahMan85]

These phantasy go backs are just not making any sense to me. Now I'm confused. Alright utimate form time for the both of them. OH RIGHT!!!!! Even in the phantasies Cougar can't get Kazuyas or Kazuma's name. Man a space battle again. Hey now DBZ style has come into play with the fighting. Oh brother. YESSSSSS WE GET TO SEE COUGAR AGAIN. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF did they show Cougar dieing. Man this really is a sad and unbelieveable ending. Man they are killing each other. GOD DAMN!!! WOHA GOOD STUFF I am getting the chiles just from watching this. I can't believe you people out there who hate the show do hate it. Man something must be wrong with you people. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Beautiful ending just beautiful.

[Youko Recca]

Alright, this is getting hilarious. You see Kazuma's notions right after he put back on that horrid-looking armor? Like some kind of retarded Tarzan suffering from crabs. LOL at all this.

[Timmay]

Sayonara Cougar.

[FlyByNite77]

bye Cougar :(

[MarineCorps]

Cougar. He's dead? :( :crying:

[Solitude1]

Did Cougar just DIE?!:eek:

[Tenku]

Yes, Bare Fists.

[Gatomon41]

Wait, Cougar died? Just now? And I missed it? Shoot.

Ok, now they want to Kill each other?

Wait,m I still saw Cougar's body. he's not dead yet.

[Youko Recca]

Got damn, my sides hurt from them GRIPPING EACH OTHER's FACES.

Though in comes in when they actually start fighting realisticly. So it's all good.

[sag_2002]

Man, the boys are just tearing each other to shreads.

And, the predictable result ensues.

OK, that was just plain evil. Who's hand is that? We may never know.

ADULT KANAMI!!!

And, our boys are STILL going at it.

[Tenku]

Wait, Cougar died? Just now? And I missed it? Shoot.You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

...

...

........................


PANTHA FIST.

Oh my god. I almost injured myself from falling off my bed.

[Timmay]

Alright, this is a well-disputed ending.. because of that fist without a face.

My belief is that it was Kazuma's cause of the way he gripped his fist.

[Duke]

No Reckless Fire. YOU FAIL!

...Please don't tell me those two are still fighting 10 years later...

[Gatomon41]

Is Cougar really dead, a ghost, or just sleeping? Wouldn't his body disapear then?

Well, a much better conclusion than expected actually. We finally see Kazuma and Ryuho beat the stuffing out of each other. It's well done, but kind of pointless fight. only just to express their feelings.

Cougar shows up, but is he dead? I need confirmation.

I loved the End.

A 4 out of 5 for avoiding the standard Ambigous anime ending,

[FlyByNite77]

I forgot about the older hot Kanami at the end... ;)

[purplehairedwonder]

Wtf kind of ending was that?

[Gatomon41]

I mean it guys, is Cougar dead or not? Whats going on with that?

[jethrek]

Yeah, Cougar died. for the second time

After Kimishima the whole killing people twice thing is old.

[Duke]

Wtf kind of ending was that?The kind you make up when you're out of ideas and have another episode to fill.

[sag_2002]

I forgot about the older hot Kanami at the end... ;)
Yeah, that was a nice little surprise. She looks good in the future.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

A character's not dead if they aren't proclaimed dead with a body. Cougar lives on in my mind.

Weird ending, not the worst I've ever seen, but not great. Wish they hadn't spent so much time on that fight.

[Timmay]

Cougar is dead. Yes older Kanami is hot, and she's waiting for Kazuma.. wonder what that'll lead to.

[Solitude1]

KAZUMA WINS!!!:cool:

What a GREAT ending....but yeah it was great to see that Kazuma's head on attacking wins out in the end. Awesome.

Cougar dying was both sad and memorable. I'm glad he went out just watching over kids and the others. RIP to one of the coolest anime characters that has ever graced Adult Swim let alone Cartoon Network.

Wow. S-Cry-ed should definately win the award for being the BEST UNDERDOG SERIES to EVER air on AS.

4 stars for last ep.
5 stars for the series. Proud Fist indeed.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I've missed Kazumas original attack so its nice they stuck it in for the finale :) even though they went through all the levels of power it didn't feel like the fight drug on at all such a good job! but I certainly winced and looked away a lot during the unpowered hand to hand part. Cougar died full of himself huh? :crying: I feel worst for Kanami and Mimori though :(

did people say this series was terrible before it premiered to give us lowered expectations or so we could be pleasantly surprised or something :confused: because it was a great show

[Romanesque]

You could practically feel those hits to the ribs. Ow.

Romey
--My one post in an sCRYed thread for the whole run. :sweat:

[NahMan85]

What the hell was up with Kanami looking older all of a sudden and the long hair was pretty wierd?

[cadence]

SECOND IMPACT!

Mimori: "Is this the way men want to live their lives?"

YES! That was where it got sad for me...

What the hell was up with Kanami looking older all of a sudden and the long hair was pretty wierd?
It was the future so far as I know.

[Gatomon41]

You could practically feel those hits to the ribs. Ow.

Romey
--My one post in an sCRYed thread for the whole run. :sweat:And yet you had a Scherdis Avatar, and a Avatar of her hairpin...

[Humble]

I haven't seen a beating that brutal since Metal Gear Solid 3. :eek:

Cougar's death is a let down if I've ever seen one. :shrug:

-Humble

[Duke]

Surprised I'm the only one who thought of Second Impact when Kazuma's & Ryuoh's mega-blast in space went off.

[Youko Recca]

Weird ending, not the worst I've ever seen, but not great. Wish they hadn't spent so much time on that fight.
Basically. They could have left out them going in space. But oh well, I'm still laughing at how they gripped their faces. That was hilarious, damn, parts throughout the whole fight was. Like a mix of comedy and some brutal beatdown action.

[cadence]

I haven't seen a beating that brutal since Metal Gear Solid 3. :eek:

Cougar's death is a let down if I've ever seen one. :shrug:

-Humble
At least he didn't die when everyone thought he did :)

[NahMan85]

I haven't seen a beating that brutal since Metal Gear Solid 3. :eek:

Cougar's death is a let down if I've ever seen one. :shrug:

-Humble
At least he dies peacfully and comfortably. :crying: Sad to see him die though

[NahMan85]

Surprised I'm the only one who thought of Second Impact when Kazuma's & Ryuoh's mega-blast in space went off.
What now? :confused:

[Scirel]

Damn, cougar what a way to go... so quiet.. :(

Still, it was pretty open ended, which is a good thing for me, and at least I can know with certainty that Kanami grows up to be Lacus Clyne with Red Hair. :sweat:

To those who have said this was the worst ending, you`ve never seen Digimon 02 or Blue Gender's endings. :ack:

[Gatomon41]

Damn, cougar what a way to go... so quiet.. :(

Still, it was pretty open, which is a good thing for me, and at least I can know with certainty that Kanami grows up to be Lacus Clyne with Red Hair. :sweat:Let's just make a Familly tree predicting which anime character is decended from each other.

[Captain Zechs]

Kazuma won...it was pretty obvious. In the end when the fist went up, the arm had 2 lines going up it, and I taped it so i did check to see if I was right and I am. Kazuma won, hooray, although I like both...

Good episode, I really think they should just make a second season, but oh well. I liked how everyone was watching to see who was better, and Cougar went out peacefully.


I really liked this show so much, from the first time I saw it down in Ocean City I became attached to it. Something about it just got my attention, it had nice fighting, storyline and interesting characters. Not much more I could have asked for, so for this episode it gets an 8/10 for an incredible fight and the series as a whole gets a 9/10. Truly impressive I must say.

[NickWhiz1]

The true winner in this is the viewer, with Kanami coming in a close second.

The ending was meant to be ambiguous as to who won the fight, although it's just as easy to assume that the fight ended in a draw (which is my stance).

Excellent pick-up, Adult Swim. You managed to find a way to satisfy all of our hotblooded needs, and it probably didn't even cost that much :sweat:

[djthomp]

Love the pets that the Ball guy has. Thats nice continuity.

Edit: Oh yeah, should comment on the fight. Nice fight, though I wish they had done more to tie up the threads from the main plot. But then again, considering that the lost ground vs. mainland plot only started about halfway through, and the two of them have been fighting since the first episode, maybe their fight IS the main plot.

And yeah, adult Kanami is hot.

[PickHut]

Actual reaction when the episode ended: What the hell is wrong with you? She's old enough, you can go screw her now. Stop fighting. NOW.

Anyways, while not the best ending ever, I thought it was a nice send-off with having those two duke it out with each other. Funny how a simple fist fight ends up being the most violent moment in a show where insane power levels run wild. Though, I thought the ending was ridiculous with them STILL fighting each other years later. But it would be hilarious if they make a movie and it just consists of those two kicking the crap out of each other for over an hour.

I give Dream a B.

I give the series a B+. It wasn't anything original, but it's like the people who made it knew that and instead just tried to make it as enjoyable as possible for what it was.

[Warrior Kitana]

Not the best eps, but decent and a bit confusing.

How did Cougar die exactly? I mean he was just sitting in a chair watching the kids and just died. Wasn't he just fine a minute ago?

Kanami grows up to look like a mix between Lacus Clyne (Gundam Seed/Destiny) and Aeris (Final Fantasy XII).

Mimori was beginning to get rather annoying by this eps.

Overall, a rather disappointing end to a pretty decent series. I'm rather sad to see it end. I didn't expect to like this series as much when I first started watching it earlier this year.

[blitzkrieg]

That was like the They Live of anime fights. Definetly one of the most underrated anime shows to grace AS.

Plus I interperted the ending as the two of them still fighting off the main land and not fighting themselves since you don't really see who they were attacking.

As to Cougar's death, remember he said that he was taken to the mainland and experimented on which shortened his life but strengthened his powers. So essentially it was just his time.

[NahMan85]

That was like the They Live of anime fights. Definetly one of the most underrated anime shows to grace AS.

Plus I interperted the ending as the two of them still fighting off the main land and not fighting themselves since you don't really see who they were attacking.

As to Cougar's death, remember he said that he was taken to the mainland and experimented on which shortened his life but strengthened his powers. So essentially it was just his time.
That's right that totally slipped my mind.

[Tenku]

I haven't seen a beating that brutal since Metal Gear Solid 3. :eek:

Cougar's death is a let down if I've ever seen one. :shrug:

-Humble
Yeah, that was like the Smackdown of the Century beating. Hey, least it wasn't with electricity. :p

But ya...that death felt like a cop-out to me. :sad:

[cadence]

I don't remember it totally and I won't be stayin up to wathch the rerun,

but so far as I understood it, Cougar sped up the events of his world. I'd quote this but I forget what he said before his quiet death.

I liked the way he went out though - it gave meaning to that grey streak in his hair.

[Juu-kuchi]

The fight was okay, the ending episode was awful. Because I realized something as I gawked at how horrific most of the episode panned out sans the fight I saw something...

SYMBOLISM

Real symbolism. Both Kazuma and Ryuho have been fighting all throughout these 26 episodes, with each other and together. As the credits rolled and the small tie in the end began to take place, I saw something that reveals something that happened to them after all these other episodes.

They have lost their ****ing minds.

Seriously. The final part solidified it, because within the next 6 to 10 years of Kanami's it reveals that they've went batshit crazy, destroying random objects and locations across the Lost Ground babbling forever that "In the name of Justice", "Justice for all", "I will destroy everything until justice is served", "Athrun Zala! Justice launching!". And you know what Kanami does after all these years, she's smiling hoping that they would come back to her. But what she'll be meeting again are not Kazuma and Ryuho but really messed up insane people whose minds have degraded so far that all they can think about is justice and giving everybody what is exactly due.

Mimori's just a moron in my opinion. She should've just ran into the fight to stop them so they can see how stupid they are.

Scryed in essence was pretty good in the first third (7 of 10), then got really good (8 of 10), then just sucked (5 of 10), bringing it to a nice total of 6 out of 10 for me.

But the symbolism folks! The SYMBOLISM of the ending!

[FlyByNite77]

That was like the They Live of anime fights. Definetly one of the most underrated anime shows to grace AS.

Plus I interperted the ending as the two of them still fighting off the main land and not fighting themselves since you don't really see who they were attacking.Wow you are so right. That alley fight was brutal and awesome just like this one.

Yea, I didn't think they were still fighting each other, but other people at the end.

I wish there was some kind of follow-up to the show, but from what I understand the show went beyond what the manga actually had?



Actual reaction when the episode ended: What the hell is wrong with you? She's old enough, you can go screw her now. Stop fighting. NOW.
:evil:

[Hyper Shadow X]

The fight was nice

[email2003]

What a series! Never knew it would be this good since episode 1.

Seeing Coguar again, I thought he was alive but it seems he just made yet another rare appearence before he could say goodbye.:crying:
Good grief, that last part of the fight between Kazuma and Ryuho was brutal as a normal fists fight in real life.
And the winner is.........................................................Kazuma or Ryuho!? Somebody go back and look closely at that arm being raised.:confused:
The good part about this ending is that neither guy died in the end. I thought Kazuma or Ryuho were going to get killed over their fight. At least they lived.
The series is over and what is left!? No movie or any specials from Japan since the series ended in 2001 or 2002. I guess this is all they can offer from S-Cry-Ed. Will we ever see such another good series like this appear again on Adult Swim!?

Oh well, goodbye S-Cry-Ed. It was surely a fun ride to watch. Now I'm off to focus on Fullmetal now.:D

[Freedom Fighter]

I've never been so unenthralled by two men beating the crap out of each other without managing to kill themselves. Which makes it worse because you're kind of living the torture and pain of every blow with them. Seriously... I've never seen a fight this even, this painless, and this useless, because we all knew (or at least I did) how it was going to turn out. As a draw!

Mimori can't seem to grasp the fact that men like to beat the crap out of each other for no reason.Which is why throughout this whole entire series Mimori didn't get any closer to getting with Ryuhou than she did to begin with. Just like Scheris didn't have any luck either, but she's excused because she's an alter user and she's dead.

Mimori needs to go find someone without an alter power. Then maybe she's got a chance of understanding men.

Real symbolism. Both Kazuma and Ryuho have been fighting all throughout these 26 episodes, with each other and together. As the credits rolled and the small tie in the end began to take place, I saw something that reveals something that happened to them after all these other episodes.

They have lost their ****ing minds.

Seriously. The final part solidified it, because within the next 6 to 10 years of Kanami's it reveals that they've went batshit crazy, destroying random objects and locations across the Lost Ground babbling forever that "In the name of Justice", "Justice for all", "I will destroy everything until justice is served", "Athrun Zala! Justice launching!". And you know what Kanami does after all these years, she's smiling hoping that they would come back to her. But what she'll be meeting again are not Kazuma and Ryuho but really messed up insane people whose minds have degraded so far that all they can think about is justice and giving everybody what is exactly due.
Which is why Kanami is almost in the same boat as Mimori. But Kanami can afford to still be around in a friend or little sister kind of way. As for love though... see the advice I gave Mimori above.

This all makes me wish I had seen last week's episode, as that probably would've left me with a better parting impression of the series. As it stands, though, 7 out of 10 for the final episode "Dream" and also a 7 out of 10 for the show as a whole. I didn't mind watching it just because it was guys beating each other up for 26 episodes, but for some reason I still feel like I was supposed to get something else out of this show and I didn't.

[Vallen Valiant]

I can't believe people can't tell who won...

It's obvious! Rouhou doesn't punch! He chops and stabs!

When the hand came up, you are suppose to think it was Ryouho as it was an open-palm...

...Until the fingers curl up into a fist, pinky first! Tell me, is there ANYONE-ELSE you see in SCRYED who curl his finger into a fist by starting with the little finger?

It was Kazuma! Brute force beats Slicing and dicing!

To Freedom Fighter: Yes, you were suppose to see the previous episode. All the lose ends were tied up there.

[A.Magik]

I slept through this episode and its rerun. Fortunately, I got the DVD collection for St. Nick's day, so I was able to watch the final episode this morning.

Too bad about Cougar. Oh well, at least Tachibana survives with his girl (and we don't see him doing a Goku).

A.Magik

[TamaNeko]

Yup. Tachibana is pretty much the winner out of all this. He's got a sweet girl with him and those cute little Eevee-like creatures.

Well, can't really say anything else that hasn't already been said, but, I think this show ended almost perfectly. Too bad the whole thing with the mainland and their use of manufactured alters was never completely resolved, but it was nice to see both Kazuma and Ryuho are still fighting them.

Plus, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but during that shot of adult Kanami, the cows are back too. MOO! :D

[XOMiss_Samantha]

WOW

That was really amazing. I was so excited to see Cugar back,:eek: but when he put thoes sunglasses on and kinda went limp, i just thought he was gunna take a nap..but i guess not :crying:
Anyways i guess him and Kazuma aren't brother because even tho they said they were a few times in the show, when Cugar was talking to those little boys he pointed out that they were 'LIKE' brothers.
Yet...people are still saying they are, so im really confused.:confused:

The fight was just awesome. I really thought hey would both die from beating each other to a pulp like that.
I didn't exactly love the ending since it still shows them going at it...but i still enjoyed watching the whole thing.
I really like the beginning/opening tho. All those scenes from early in the show really made me feel like this was going to sum everything up.Like one of those flash backs in shows ppl have before they die type of thing.



GREAT SHOW
Im gunna miss this one

[AlphaPrime]

This was a GREAT ending episode the fight was awesome the ending was great and Cougar's death was peaceful and quiet which was different hehehehe, knew it was coming though getting drained by Mujo and useing his power more afterwards prolly ended him faster then he would have died.

And adult Kanami woot!

5 outta 5 for this ep and a 9 outta 10 for the series, much better ending then CowboyBebop's POS ending.

[fuchikoma]

It is finally over. It took half a year to watch 13 hours of television. Not bad.

[Lachesis]

Mimori can't seem to grasp the fact that men like to beat the crap out of each other for no reason.

She ain't the only one. All I could think after the first time I saw this was... "Well that was pointless, wasn't it?" I like the theory that they've both gone insane. :)

What are they showing next week in the slot. Dare I hope for my missing FLCL epiosde 6?

[XOMiss_Samantha]

What are they showing next week in the slot. Dare I hope for my missing FLCL epiosde 6?
They are going to show episode 1 , Kazuma.

[Etekatte]

I can't believe people can't tell who won...

It's obvious! Rouhou doesn't punch! He chops and stabs!

When the hand came up, you are suppose to think it was Ryouho as it was an open-palm...

...Until the fingers curl up into a fist, pinky first! Tell me, is there ANYONE-ELSE you see in SCRYED who curl his finger into a fist by starting with the little finger?

It was Kazuma! Brute force beats Slicing and dicing!



When even the staff that made the show can't agree on who won that should tell you there is no clear winner.

[Paul_Cousins]

When even the staff that made the show can't agree on who won that should tell you there is no clear winner.This episode, "Dream", reminded me of the events between the ending to Rocky III and the beginning of Rocky IV where Apollo and Rocky fight it out, without any outside pressure, in that because the fight was offscreen, and you were not sure who won, but you just knew it was one hell of fight. :cool:

"Dream" was good in that Kazuma and Ryouho finally have it out with each other with brutal results. The hand-to-hand fighting at the end was done so beautifully.

Anyway, I agree with Vallen Valiant logic, I think Kazuma won because it was a fist shown in the credits and Kazuma shown at the end in that white picture. Ryouho cuts (open handed jabs), while Kazuma crushes (punches), they said so themselves.

I give this episode 5 out of 5 stars with the series itself given 4.5 stars in general.

In addition, I think Cougar checked out in style.

Finally, I don’t think Kazuma and Ryouho were talking to each other at the end. Note, the two different backgrounds, Ryouho was in the city ruins, while Kazuma was in a desert area. I think they finished their fight as the credits began.

[Humble]

The argument over who won reminds me of the one over the ending of Final Fantasy VII. Both argue about an ending that seems to be ambiguios until the last moment. :p

-Humble

[Timmay]

I don't ever remember seeing Ryuho do the pointing, middle, ring, pinky, thumb, finger, fist balling.

That's why I have always said it was Kazuma who won.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Finally, I don’t think Kazuma and Ryouho were talking to each other at the end. Note, the two different backgrounds, Ryouho was in the city ruins, while Kazuma was in a desert area. I think they finished their fight as the credits began.Does any one kno where to find pictures of that ^ with the 2 backgrounds. I didn't notice anything but now that everyones mentioning it im really curious about what happened.

[Chosen Raven]

I'm gonna stray from the norm here and say that Ryuhou won. He used a closed fist numerous times in the fight. I don't remember a single instance of Kazuma attacking with an open palm through out the entire show(and the hand did start with an obviously purposeful open palm). Also, look closely at the markings on the hand. It had very few markings on it. During their hand to hand fight, you can see that both Kazuma and Ryuhou have the same markings on the underside of their right arms. However, Kazuma has more markings on the topside than Ryuhou(for some unexplained reason, Kazuma suffers more from the effects of his alter than Ryuhou). When the hand first comes up, you can see very few(I didn't notice any, in fact) markings on the topside. Thus, it is Ryuhou's arm.

But, who am I kidding...it was a draw. The open palm and fist were probably meant to represent both Kazuma and Ryuhou. It's just that one hand on screen looks cooler than two.


Mimori can't seem to grasp the fact that men like to beat the crap out of each other for no reason.
She ain't the only one. All I could think after the first time I saw this was... "Well that was pointless, wasn't it?" I like the theory that they've both gone insane. :) Come on, guys! There was plenty of reason behind this fight. They fought for the same reason that many of us wanted them to fight. So they wouldn't eternally wonder who was the best. It's like Ryuhou said last episode, "It's kind of annoying not knowing". Plus, they like fighting. Just like anybody likes doing something they're good at.

This was a great episode. Perfect 10. It resolved everything that needed to be resolved. From the death of the awesome Cougar, to the amazing final fight between Kazuma and Ryuhou. This was what S-CRY-ED's final episode should have been. If I had one thing bad to say about this episode, it's that Mimori's VA can't act. She really fumbled on some of her lines.

This was a superb series. It was very cliche, but beautifully so. It reminded me why I like anime. They've got to make an (animated) S-CRY-ED movie someday.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Kazuma and Ryuhou weren't fighting each other after the credits. Notice when Ryuhou is talking, he calls whoever he's fighting insects. That's plural, so it means he was fighting multiple people.

[Paul_Cousins]

Does any one kno where to find pictures of that ^ with the 2 backgrounds. I didn't notice anything but now that everyones mentioning it im really curious about what happened.Right after the credits the background with Kanami is a grassy farm. Then is moves to Ryuhou with the city ruins background, then is moves to Kazuma with a hilly deserttype background, then Kazuma punches the rock in front of him and it shatters to reveal the name of the title 'Scyred' in Japanese and finally is shows a still picture in white of a happy Kazuma with his right hand open, with the word "End" in in bold black on the bottom right of the picture.

I hope that helps you some.

One more note, Cougar finally pronouced Mimori name correctly, right before he died. :cool:

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Right after the credits the background with Kanami is a grassy farm. Then is moves to Ryuhou with the city ruins background, then is moves to Kazuma with a hilly deserttype background, then Kazuma punches the rock in front of him and it shatters to reveal the name of the title 'Scyred' in Japanese and finally is shows a still picture in white of a happy Kazuma with an open right hand, with the word "End" in the bottom right of the picture.
Thanks :)
That makes things more clear and I can kinda get an image of it in my head.
I'll probably just watch the re-run on Thursday.

[SokkaBoSiegel]

Ok, so Cougar was just laying in there chair and put his shades on and went limp? I must have looked away for a min. That's odd. And he said Mimori "correctly" right before he died? One beef I had with this show was his "mispronunciation" was so close to the "correct way" that it was inaudible to the human ear. I guess maybe hearing wizards picked up on a diff, but I didnt.

And I wouldnt say this totally answers all the questions. Im still curious if Kazuma wanted to get it on with Kanami although I give semi-props to the show for keeping their relationship such a weird mystery.

[The Koopinator]

So with the series over, I have but one thing to say.

With Ayase and Sherrice dead, Mimori respectfully refused, and Kanami not legal, we've all learned a lesson:

You need balls to get your girl in the end.

[KojiroTakenashi]

^Amen

Another ambiguity to who won:

The closing of the fist sounded like a glove.

[Tash]

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Kazuma and Ryuhou weren't fighting each other after the credits. Notice when Ryuhou is talking, he calls whoever he's fighting insects. That's plural, so it means he was fighting multiple people.Well, Ryuhou did. Kazuma sounded like he was fighting Ryuhou.

From what I've gathered, they began hallucinating at some point. Probably right after (or during) the fight. (hence why Kanami's alter power stopped working: Kazuma's mind had deteriorated to the point where he wasn't even thinking anymore)

Which brings up something interesting:
Kazuma just wanted to keep fighting Ryuhou, while Ryuhou just wanted to keep fighting against the mainland.

This leads me to think that Ryuhou found closure to the fight (and that was his fist). During the fight, he complained about how inflexable he has. At the end, he raised his "cutting palm" into the air, but then changed it into a fist. Kazuma on the other hand, wanted to fin the fight, so he couldn't find closure, causing him to go insane.

Ryohou probably went crazy when the mainland stopped attacking. He wanted to fight for peace. He couldn't live in a peacful world, so he began seeing bunch of enemies that weren't there.

So in the end, they both got what they wanted. Kazuma can "fight Ryuhou" for the rest of his life, and Ryuhou can "protect the innocent" for the rest of his life.

Poor guys. :sad:

[Chosen Raven]

This leads me to think that Ryuhou found closure to the fight (and that was his fist). During the fight, he complained about how inflexable he has. At the end, he raised his "cutting palm" into the air, but then changed it into a fist.
Good point, I didn't think about that. I don't know about the whole they-went-insane theory, though. It's not implausible or anything, it just doesn't seem like the creators of the show were going for that. Kazuma could have been fighting anyone since he talks like that to almost everyone he fights. And Kanami said she believed she would see them again. Plus, that ending music seemed way too peppy for such a sad ending.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

WOW
All these theorys are making my head spin.
I feel sad about the whole going insane deal. Im not sure why but when i hear that it just makes me really upset, and reminds me of some mentally challenged hospital or a desiese that makes people delusional to a point were they can never enjoy life and are always after something, not being able to stop and rest or that one thing always after them to a point were their lifes revolve around that object/ goal.
I hope they didn't go insane, although its likely they did:crying:
At least it's better than them dyeing which i honestly thought would happen after the way they destroyed each other.
Why didn't Kanami stay with Kazuma? I mean why doesnt she just GOO to him instead of waiting to return?:confused: Why leave and not watch the fight?

[Tash]

Why didn't Kanami stay with Kazuma? I mean why doesnt she just GOO to him instead of waiting to return?:confused: Why leave and not watch the fight?Well, if you support the insanity theory, she knew where he was. She also knew that he wasn't sane. So once again, she's been left waiting for him to return. (although it's his mind that's gone instead of his body)

[Dark Soul]

Beatdown bone crushing fighting. Why they have to go into space it makes look like a rip off of DBZ. I enjoyed the fighting and of course Kazuma wins. I also enjoyed looking at an older Kanami. It was upsetting to see Cougar die but he did not have long to live after the fight with Mujo. I thought it was funny when Ryuhou and Kazuma were pulling each others faces.

I give this episode an 8/10 or a B. I give the seris a B+, it was nothing original but it was enjoyable to watch and i did tape the show.

The only shows I have to tape now since its over is FMA and Naruto.

[UberMonkey]

It is finally over. It took half a year to watch 13 hours of television. Not bad.
26 episodes X 22 Minutes = 572 Minutes / 60 minutes (per hour) = ~9.5 hours. So just nine and a half, actually.

And is this different than any other 26 episode series?

Anyways, this show was just silly. Interesting concept, ridiculous plot. Cougar was way to good for Scryed, and deserved better than the end he got.

[Vallen Valiant]

Why they have to go into space it makes look like a rip off of DBZ.Because if they don't, everyone in Lost Ground would be killed by the resulting explosion. I thought that was obvious?

[KojiroTakenashi]

Yeah, a THIRD upheaval would take place...nevermind KANAMI and MIMORI WERE STANDING RIGHT THERE!!

[G1Ravage]

I had a feeling that last week was gonna be it for "Reckless Fire". What with the song credits appearing over a regular ol' black screen instead of the usual hyper animation, almost as if to draw attention to itself.

But I'm glad Drastic My Soul was used for this opening, so at long last, we got to hear the FULL song, without [as] cutting out most of it for time.

[Paul_Cousins]

I had a feeling that last week was gonna be it for "Reckless Fire". What with the song credits appearing over a regular ol' black screen instead of the usual hyper animation, almost as if to draw attention to itself.

But I'm glad Drastic My Soul was used for this opening, so at long last, we got to hear the FULL song, without [as] cutting out most of it for time.Don't forget we get a Spanish/Mexican music version of "Reckless Fire" during the ending credits. :cool:

[GWOtaku]

An average ending for a series that managed to exceed the the average expectations of many. "Dream" is a giant reminder that s-CRY-ed before anything else is a fighting show--not that we needed it. Aside from a lot of vague talk about "moving forward" and such there really is no good reason for the episode-long battle between our heroes--except in their own minds. They have their long-standing rivalry and unfinished duel, cut short by Mujo's scehemes. So now of course they have to bring it to a proper conclusion so they can move on with what they have to do. Leaving the past in the past is out of the question. Logical? No. Classic shonen? Absolutely.

The fight was violent and brutal and as good as any other clash in the series. I really don't think it deserved its own episode, much more could have been been done with the epilogue. I did like how it came down to fists and there was some real fighting without fancy abilities. The double knockout was rather poetic. I'm not sure what they were doing with the hand raised in the end. Was that for show? Were they implying that someone got up and there was a winner?

I think the a significant thing to take away from the ending is that the question of who won and lost doesn't matter. To all those subscribing to unorthodox theories such as the idea of our heroes going insane, you're forgetting that s-CRY-ed is 100% a shonen series and not in any way complicated. The entire point of their battle in the final episode was to finish once and for all their long-standing feud. When rivals settle like that there is no turning back.If you look at the epilogue footage you'll see pretty clearly that Kazuma and Ryuhoh were not fighting each other all those years later. If they were fighting we would see them clash, they would be addressing each other, and they wouldn't be using such general lines that all along have been saved for grunts. We already knew that the mainland would continue trying to assert its influence over the lost ground, and Kazuma and Ryuhoh vowed to fight that. All we're seeing at the end is the fulfillment of that commitment. If anything this is advancement for them; they've dedicated their lives to (in my opinion) a worthy cause instead of their rivarly.

Overall, s-CRY-ed was an enjoyable ride. I thought the first half was very strong. Kazuma and Ryuhoh had a good rivalry going and a lot of attention was paid to the structured, ordered society of the city compared to the ungoverned area beyond the walls. Kazuma was all about freedom, Ryuhoh all about justice and order. It was a great dynamic.

Then you had their titantic clash in the middle and things took a more simple, shonen plotline path. Conspiracies come into play, the mainland is clearly established as a place to be loathed, full of people that either want to exploit the lost ground (Mujo and other big-shots) or don't care or understand what life is like there (the common citizen). Mujo was an uncomplicated, "look at me I''m evil" type whereas Kazuma and Ryuhoh were clearly established as being the right side. In a way the simplification of the storyline is disappointing, but it did entertain more often than not. When they weren't fighting the Kazuma/Ryuhoh rivalry stayed lively with a lot of curt dialogue and boneheaded behavior with Cougar and company caught in between (still love that scene where they start to fight only for Cougar to kick the crap out of them and drag them back to that house). By the end it was a very straightforward defeat-enemies-and-reach-the-final-bad guy scenario.

I'd probably give s-CRY-ed a much lower grade for all that if it weren't for the fact its all expected and par for the course for this type of series. To me the glass is half full; the depth of the first half was not something I expected at all going in. Besides, argubly it resurfaced again at the very end. I don't know if Ryuhoh would admit it but Kazuma's point of view has basically won out in a way, since they're both fighting for autotomy from the mainland, whereas at the start it was Kazuma fighting for independence from the control of the city. Ryuhoh would probably respond that he doesn't mind governance and control, it just shouldn't come from the mainland. But in the end they're both fighting for the idea that the people living on the lost ground should be the ones to govern it.

The ending of s-CRY-ed overly simplified: The shonen rivalry is over, and freedom is the winner.

Overall: great action, an intense rivalry, interesting characters, and eventually a hot-blooded confrontation vs. good and evil to cap it off. Not a remarkable anime, but a good series, and one that's more than established that it belongs on Adult Swim Action. Definitely the sleeper hit of the year no one expected, myself included.

Grade for "Dream": C+
Grade for S-cry-ed 1st half: A-
Grade for S-cry-ed 2nd half: B-
Overall opinion of S-cry-d: A very solid B

[Space Chief]

COUGAR DIED? I thought he just took a nap...
Come on, people, nice sunny day, you got your lawnchair and umbrella set up, what else are you going to do?

Loved the delightful Over-the-Topness of Cougar and Ryuhouh (spelling?) going into space.

Did they really fight for 10 years straight? Must have gone something like this:

Kazuma and Ryuhouh: *PUNCH* *KICK* ACK *POW*
Kanami: Hi, just want to tell you that I'M HAWT NOW.
K&R: What do you think we are, fanboys?
PUNCH* *KICK* ACK *POW*

Another series come to a close. I didn't like it at first, but it just kinda grew on me...

Goodbye, s-CRY-ed. We'll miss your unpronouncable title, names that changed in spelling every 20 minutes, Cougar's awesomeness and goofy character design (someone needs to make a YTMND of "Lion suit Kazuma" set to the Puma Man theme (http://www.agonybooth.com/extras/downloads/)). Even though you're gone, we'll always believe in drastic your soul.

[NahMan85]

An average ending for a series that managed to exceed the the average expectations of many. "Dream" is a giant reminder that s-CRY-ed before anything else is a fighting show--not that we needed it. Aside from a lot of vague talk about "moving forward" and such there really is no good reason for the episode-long battle between our heroes--except in their own minds. They have their long-standing rivalry and unfinished duel, cut short by Mujo's scehemes. So now of course they have to bring it to a proper conclusion so they can move on with what they have to do. Leaving the past in the past is out of the question. Logical? No. Classic shonen? Absolutely.

The fight was violent and brutal and as good as any other clash in the series. I really don't think it deserved its own episode, much more could have been been done with the epilogue. I did like how it came down to fists and there was some real fighting without fancy abilities. The double knockout was rather poetic. I'm not sure what they were doing with the hand raised in the end. Was that for show? Were they implying that someone got up and there was a winner?

I think the a significant thing to take away from the ending is that the question of who won and lost doesn't matter. To all those subscribing to unorthodox theories such as the idea of our heroes going insane, you're forgetting that s-CRY-ed is 100% a shonen series and not in any way complicated. The entire point of their battle in the final episode was to finish once and for all their long-standing feud. When rivals settle like that there is no turning back.If you look at the epilogue footage you'll see pretty clearly that Kazuma and Ryuhoh were not fighting each other all those years later. If they were fighting we would see them clash, they would be addressing each other, and they wouldn't be using such general lines that all along have been saved for grunts. We already knew that the mainland would continue trying to assert its influnce over the lost ground, and Kazuma and Ryuhoh vowed to fight that. All we're seeing at the end is the fulfillment of that commitment. If anything this is advancement for them; they've dedicated their lives to (in my opinion) a worthy cause instead of their rivarly.

Overall, s-CRY-ed was an enjoyable ride. I thought the first half was very strong. Kazuma and Ryuhoh had a good rivalry going and a lot of attention was paid to the structured, ordered society of the city compared to the ungoverned area beyond the walls. Kazuma was all about freedom, Ryuhoh all about justice and order. It was a great dynamic.

Then you had their titantic clash in the middle and things took a more simple, shonen plotline path. Conspiracies come into play, the mainland is clearly established as a place to be loathed, full of people that either want to exploit the lost ground (Mujo and other big-shots) or don't care or understand what life is like there (the common citizen). Mujo was an uncomplicated, "look at me I''m evil" type whereas Kazuma and Ryuhoh were clearly established as being the right side. In a way the simplification of the storyline is disappointing, but it did entertain more often than not. When they weren't fighting the Kazuma/Ryuhoh rivalrly stayed lively with a lot of curt dialogue and boneheaded behavior with Cougar and company caught in between (still love that scene where they start to fight only for Cougar to kick the crap out of them and drag them back to that house). By the end it was a very straightforward defeat-enemies-and-reach-the-final-bad guy scenario.

I'd probably give s-CRY-ed a much lower grade for all that if it weren't for the fact its all expected and par for the course for this type of series. To me the glass is half full; the depth of the first half was not something I expected it all going in. Besides, argubly it resurfaced again at the very end. I don't know if Ryuhoh would admit it but Kazuma's point of view has basically won out in a way, since they're both fighting for autotomy from the mainland, whereas at the start it was Kazuma fighting for independence from the control of the city. Ryuhoh would probably respond that he doesn't mind governance and control, it just shouldn't come from the mainland. But in the end they're both fighting for the idea that the people living on the lost ground should be the ones to govern it.

The ending of s-CRY-ed overly simplified: The shonen rivalry is over, and freedom is the winner.

Overall: great action, an intense rivalry, interesting characters, and eventually a hot-blooded confrontation vs. good and evil to cap it off. Not a remarkable anime, but a good series, and one that's more than established that it belongs on Adult Swim Action. Definteily the sleeper hit of the year no one expected, myself included.

Grade for "Dream": C+
Grade for S-cry-ed 1st half: A-
Grade for S-cry-ed 2nd half: B-
Overall opinion of S-cry-d: A very solid B
Very well said, I couldn't have said any better myself. Clear and consise. Good stuff.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I was always wondering...what does
S-CRY-ED mean anyways?
and do u say it
S[like letter s] CRY[like crying]- Edd[ as in my names Edd]
??

[Fatneck]

I was always wondering...what does
S-CRY-ED mean anyways?
and do u say it
S[like letter s] CRY[like crying]- Edd[ as in my names Edd]
??
scry is an ancoent Mesopotamian word that means "different or etheral" and I guess the -ed takes the same effect as in modern English. So the basic jist of the title of the title is "diffrenteded" or "etheraled."
















I seriously don't know either, I'd like to know as well.

[Duke]

shcried. That's how you pronounce it.

If AS kept the eyecatchers, the show would tell you itself.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

shcried. That's how you pronounce it.

If AS kept the eyecatchers, the show would tell you itself.
Shcried...so *SHHH*--->*Cried*
Thanks for clearing that up because i just said it as it was spelt.
Whoops:sweat: .

[Fatneck]

shcried. That's how you pronounce it.

If AS kept the eyecatchers, the show would tell you itself.
Can you tell us then? Because I'm not in a hurry to rewatch the in a format where I'll be able to see the eyecatches, but this mystery killing me at the moment.

[Supernovametalstar]

Good show, I liked it. Way more interesting than Ghost in the Shell, but fight choreography wasn't as good as some seen in Champloo (but I can hardly stay awake for that show now). The ending was perfect for a fighting anime.

[Duke]

Can you tell us then? I just said it in my last post.

[Fatneck]

I just said it in my last post.
Oh yeah. Forgive me, I'm retarded at the moment. Don't take that as sarcasm or anything I'm completely ****ed up right now.

[Meh]

^Amen

Another ambiguity to who won:

The closing of the fist sounded like a glove.Yes it did sound like a glove. It's the exact sound that Kazumas glove makes when he clentches his fist. It's a unique sound that's not heard anywhere else in the anime.

I've seen the last episode three times already and from what I gather, after the ten year interval, both Kazuma and Ryuho are fighting the main land, as some one else mentioned, Ryuho is speaking to multiple people, so unless Kazuma has instant transmition and the ability to clone himself, he's fighting other people.

The one thing I'm really not sure about is what happened to Kazuma and Ryuho's alter abilities? Ryuho doesn't have his body armor nor Zetzwae (sp) and the only thing harminizing about Kamuzma's alter is his fist, which was the only thing left on him at the end of thier final battle. So did both of them lose the ability to use thier full alters or have the mainland refined alters become so powerful that they're able to overpower and shatter Kazuma's and Ryuho's alters? :/

[Vallen Valiant]

The one thing I'm really not sure about is what happened to Kazuma and Ryuho's alter abilities? Ryuho doesn't have his body armor nor Zetzwae (sp) and the only thing harminizing about Kamuzma's alter is his fist, which was the only thing left on him at the end of thier final battle. So did both of them lose the ability to use thier full alters or have the mainland refined alters become so powerful that they're able to overpower and shatter Kazuma's and Ryuho's alters? :/
On the contrary, I believe they have become so powerful over the years that they didn't need to use full armour when they fight small-fry. In effect they have become the guardian spirits of this island.

[NahMan85]

On the contrary, I believe they have become so powerful over the years that they didn't need to use full armour when they fight small-fry. In effect they have become the guardian spirits of this island.
Good assumptions because why would they fight without there alters if they had not gotten any stonger in the 10 year span, it's obvious that they would. I mean fighting the way they did in the entire last episode it would have increased their alter powers 100 fold.

[KojiroTakenashi]

*sigh*

Once more for reference:

When you Scry someone, you are using a kind of magic to see what someone is doing/see through their eyes/see how they are/etc...that sort of thing.

Kanami's Alter Power is the Ability to Scry things, so...yeah. There we are.

[Anyone00]

Was I the only one thinking "Alter-User Power" when the credits rolled :p

A decent end to a good series: s-CRY-ed a.k.a. Generic Shonen Anime #2238

[Paul_Cousins]

Was I the only one thinking "Alter-User Power" when the credits rolled :p

A decent end to a good series: s-CRY-ed a.k.a. Generic Shonen Anime #2238Here's a question. If Scryed is so generic a series, then why is almost everyone saying it is a good series? :p

Generic series tend to be a bit bland, while Scryed was a good series. :cool:

[Vallen Valiant]

Here's a question. If Scryed is so generic a series, then why is almost everyone saying it is a good series? :p

Generic series tend to be a bit bland, while Scryed was a good series. :cool:
A show that is generic does what's expected of it's genera. It would have predictable elements that are intentionally used because it is what is required.

Essentially a generic series doesn't bring anything revolutionary to the table, nothing to shock the audience or being especially innovative. But that does NOT mean it can't be good.

The reason so many generic series fail is because people who make them just stops trying to aim for quality. Essentially they get lazy and followed not just conventions but entire scripts from the past.

Scryed as a show knew what it was about, and it sticks to its guns to entertain the same audience all the way through. It also use cliques effectively.

It doesn't have to be new to be good. But it takes true skill to do something old and still make it good...

[Paul_Cousins]

Actually Scryed did break some new ground, it combined the concept of people (alter users) who could bend reality to their will, with a touch of superhero genre, with a fighting style anime.

Though, some would say that Scryed was similar to DBZ, I would disagree in that even though the DBZ fighters had the power to destroy a planet with an energy ball, none on the main heroes had the ability to actually alter reality (tear apart and created something/someone new down to the molecular level) with their minds.

If anything, Scryed is more inspired by the movie Akira; even to the point where Kazuma and Ryuho each had a skin tight glowing aura around, protecting them when they went into space, just like in the Akira movie.

In addition, another ground breaking thing about the Scryed series it is actually to a manga series that sucked and used it as a basis for a very good anime series.

Finally, to call Scryed a generic series, would be a disservice to the quality work that went into the Scryed anime series. :cool:

P.S. I plan to buy this series in a year or so, when I have the money.

[GWOtaku]

Here's a question. If Scryed is so generic a series, then why is almost everyone saying it is a good series?
Because its not boring and managed an exceedingly interesting opening premise followed by dynamic personalites and several plot twists to carry it the rest of the way. Its not a sin to follow a genre, its a sin to be so predictable and boring that it feels repetitive and exchangable with any other given show of the same type. s-CRY-ed manages to be entertaining and also different enough to not feel like repackaged junk.

[Paul_Cousins]

Because its not boring and managed an exceedingly interesting opening premise followed by dynamic personalites and several plot twists to carry it the rest of the way. Its not a sin to follow a genre, its a sin to be so predictable and boring that it feels repetitive and exchangable with any other given show of the same type. s-CRY-ed manages to be entertaining and also different enough to not feel like repackaged junk.Sort of like Megas XLR on a bad day. :zim:

[jlaking]

On the contrary, I believe they have become so powerful over the years that they didn't need to use full armour when they fight small-fry. In effect they have become the guardian spirits of this island.

Or maybe they are using a small fraction of their alter because if watch closely at the end, when Kamuzma punches the rock you see that he has orange and red on his hand.

[k-day42]

Or maybe they are using a small fraction of their alter because if watch closely at the end, when Kamuzma punches the rock you see that he has orange and red on his hand.
A bad side effect from that time he got his Shell Bullet ability....
that is still messing with him, even in the future, but why him, and not Ryuho..?

Another thing.......did Cougar just plop off and die........sad.

[Duke]

A bad side effect from that time he got his Shell Bullet ability....
that is still messing with him, even in the future, but why him, and not Ryuho..?Kazuma's Shell Bullet has always been giving him problems.

[Lachesis]

Here's a question. If Scryed is so generic a series, then why is almost everyone saying it is a good series? :p

Generic series tend to be a bit bland, while Scryed was a good series. :cool:

Not everyone. People who didn't like it aren't likely to be reading threads about it.

I think if they were going to show a Ryvius rip-off, they should've just shown Ryvius.

[Railith]

A bad side effect from that time he got his Shell Bullet ability....
that is still messing with him, even in the future, but why him, and not Ryuho..?

Shell bullet always ripped apart his arm and shoved alter in there, then it totally replaced his arm. Ryuho only got the alter marks when his alter started attaching to his body, while Kazuma has been messing himself up since the begining thus affecting him more.

[Vallen Valiant]

Not everyone. People who didn't like it aren't likely to be reading threads about it.

I think if they were going to show a Ryvius rip-off, they should've just shown Ryvius.There was NOTHING even remotely closely resemble Ryvius in Scryed plotwise.

The characters looked the same because they were designed by the same person. That's all. Since when did "ripping off" another show means having the same character designer?
What, are you going to say Gundam Seed rips off Scryed now?

What does super-mutants beating the living daylights out of each other have ANYTHING to do with a bunch of school kids stranded on a spaceship, re-enacting Lord-of-the-Flies?

You tell me.

[Lachesis]

There was NOTHING even remotely closely resemble Ryvius in Scryed plotwise.

What does super-mutants beating the living daylights out of each other have ANYTHING to do with a bunch of school kids stranded on a spaceship, re-enacting Lord-of-the-Flies?

You tell me.

Same crew. Same studio. Same director. Same timeslot.

Scryed was rushed into production after Ryvius turned out to be a surprise hit with an older audience than TV Tokyo's usual kiddie-centric stuff. And it shows. The plot's a mess, switching gears multiple times and *obviously* stretched out to fit 26 episodes. Most of the characters are recycled from "Ryvius" (except Cougar).

Yes, the plots are obviously different, but Scryed's is laughably mediocre in comparison. It's X-men with superweapons, for heavens sake.

[Vallen Valiant]

Same crew. Same studio. Same director. Same timeslot.

Scryed was rushed into production after Ryvius turned out to be a surprise hit with an older audience than TV Tokyo's usual kiddie-centric stuff. And it shows. The plot's a mess, switching gears multiple times and *obviously* stretched out to fit 26 episodes. Most of the characters are recycled from "Ryvius" (except Cougar).

Yes, the plots are obviously different, but Scryed's is laughably mediocre in comparison. It's X-men with superweapons, for heavens sake.That at worst makes it a cash-in, not a rip-off. You can't rip off an idea unless it came from somewhere else. In this case, it's their own idea.

Further more, Scryed characters were NOT based on Ryvius. No more than Gundam seed characters. I am sure there are plenty of jokes already on the fact that the character designer doesn't seem to be able to draw more than a few basic faces...

I ask you again, where did Scryed rip off Ryvius? What was stolen? What, the director was stolen? The character designer was stolen? The studio was stolen?

Should we call the latest "KingKong" fim a rip off of the "LOTR" Trilogy? It has the same director and production studio, and PJ made it clear they wouldn't have been allowed to make this movie had the fame of LOTR not helped them secure funding... So is KingKong a rip off of LOTR or what?

No one said you have to like Scryed. It isn't a deep meaningful show by any means, but calling it a rip-off is pushing it.

[Lachesis]

No one said you have to like Scryed. It isn't a deep meaningful show by any means, but calling it a rip-off is pushing it.

The entire point of Scryed was that it looked like a flashier version of Ryvius. Different story, but the same basic style. You can call it a cash-in if you want. I call it the equivalent of a cheap DTV sequel.

[Vallen Valiant]

The entire point of Scryed was that it looked like a flashier version of Ryvius. Different story, but the same basic style. You can call it a cash-in if you want. I call it the equivalent of a cheap DTV sequel.But once again, there is ZERO connection between the two stories. The art style is because of the character designer. Once again, I point to Gundam Seed for evidence:

http://gundams.net/files/html/seed/mr.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~vallenvaliant/mypic16.jpg

Just for good measure, I will chuck in Fafner as well. Another show by the same character designer. Does these people look familiar to you?
http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~playcats/self/favorite/tv/tv_image/fafner_image/fafner_top.jpg

Face it. The character designer has no imagination what so ever, but that's no reason to call Scryed a rip-off. That guy can't make new faces to save his own life. Scryed is innocent.
In case you are interested, the guy's name is Hisashi Hirai.
Note which shows has he designed characters in...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=8024

[Beefy]

When s-CRY-ed first started I got "Reckless Fire" stuck in my head. Now that they played the full "Drastic My Soul" I have that stuck in my head.
Grr.

While certainly not the best, s-CRY-ed has surpassed my initial expectations and gets a solid B.

[Gatomon41]

http://gundams.net/files/html/seed/mr.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~vallenvaliant/mypic16.jpg
Murrue is Mimori :eek::p

[Demonic Raven]

Murrue is Mimori :eek::p Lets not even get into the clones in Hisashi Hirai's world of three or so character designs. :sweat:

[Scirel]

Most of his for Scryed were actually unique, compared to his other series.

Althugh it's hard not to compare Older Kanami to Lacus. Can we get a side by side of those two? ^_^;;

[shoujoaifan]

Most of his for Scryed were actually unique, compared to his other series.

Althugh it's hard not to compare Older Kanami to Lacus. Can we get a side by side of those two? ^_^;;I didn't try for hours, but this is what I could find using Google. You would think there would be alot more, easy-to-find Gundam pics sites given the popularity of the angsty mecha show :http://clynefaction.net/Lacus/Main.php

And for the pictures (which are small, but were only meant to display her outfits anyway): http://clynefaction.net/Lacus/Costume.php (I think you can find more on there, but its a complicated maze listing rules about giving credit to those who made any other pictures if you end up using them for anything.)

As for a picture of Teen or Adult (age?) Kanami, someone will probably have to make a screencap of that.



Personally I don't think Kazuma and Ryhou went insane, this isn't really the kind of series for head trippy stuff (Well, I mean for INTELLECTUAL head trippy stuff. Considering some of the stuff that happened in the series, I could see it as a whole other kind of trippy ;) ).

Anime heroes wandering around, talking to themselves and going on about justice and bashing heads? Par the course :D Hell, if we want to get technical, they could've been fighting people off-screen, since it would be more dramatic and focus more attention on what they're saying, compared to us focusing on them AND any cannon fodder if we had seen who they were fighting, IF they were fighting anyone, and not just their usual rambling to themselves :p Kazuma IS the type who could believablely just punch something for the hell of it (And the "Scryed" logo was just for a stylish end, but giving the weird nature of the show, we could pretend Kazuma actually did that in real life :p x2.0)

One thing that this thread DID make me question was the hand at the end. I thought it was Kazuma's due to his signature Make-A-Punch-One-Finger-At-A-Time (OUCH!), but know I could easily see it as either one or a tie, due to the hand's Ryou-like Slicing-Hand-Thing (which I thought was just a Red Herring to surprise us with the Kazuma Fist), but the Glove Sound and the condition of the arm, well, it could've either one or a tie.

Farwell Scryed. You amused us with your situations that seemed like accidental (?) gay jokes, while using anime cliches in a well greased manner to slowly grow on us (or maybe we're giving you too much credit and it was just one random cliche after another :p ) In any case, you entertained us for 26 weeks, and for some of us, 52 weeks (Some of my friends are interested in it now :D )

IN THE END, THERE CAN ONLY BE, uh, TWO! Yeah, that's right. Don't make them slice and cut and punch and smash you!