If you were to spilt up Time-Warner's cartoon library into multiple networks...

[John Pannozzi]

Inspired by the If You Were to Split Up Disney Television thread at http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=147992

Here are my ideas for channels:

Termite Terrace Channel:

Shows classic theatrical animated short subjects from Warner, MGM, UA, Paramount, UPA and Universal fully uncut. Plus Toonheads.


Hanna-Barbera Cartoon Crazies Classic Channel:

Everything Hanna-Barbera made from 1957 to about 1971, except for Scooby-Doo and action-adventure cartoons. Shows include Ruff & Reddy, the Huckleberry Hound Show, the Quick Draw McGaw Show, the Yogi Bear Show, the original Flintstones, the original Jetsons, Top Cat, the Magilla Gorilla Show, the Banana Splits, Wacky Races, Dastardley and Muttley in their Flying Machines and the Perils of Penelope Pitstop.


The Scooby-Doo Channel:

All incarnations of Scooby-Doo (including Laff-a-Lympics and the modern movies, videos, shorts and shows), plus Josie & the Pussycats (both the first show and the "In Space" sequel show), Blue Falcon & Dynomutt, Speed Buggy, Jabberjaw, Hong Kong Phooey, the Funky Phantom, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Charlie Chan and the Chan Clan, the Hair Bear Bunch and other '70's cartoons.


The Animated Action-Adventure Channel:

All Time-Warner-owned action-adventure cartoons, including Space Ghost and Dino Boy, Birdman and the Galaxy Trio, Frankenstein Jr. and the Impossibles (this could also air on the Hanna-Barbera Cartoon Crazies Classic Channel), the Herculoids, Jonny Quest (all 3 series), and the many animated incarnations of the DC Comics superheroic characters. Maybe even Captain Planet.


The Funtastic World of Hanna-Barbera:

Most of Hanna-Barbera's cartoons from the 1980s and 1990s, except for the Scooby-Doo shows, 2 Stupid Dogs, and the Cartoon Network originals. Shows include the Smurfs, the Snorks, Yogi's Treasure Hunt, the 1980's Jetsons, the many Flintstones spin-offs, the Pink Panther and Sons, the Popeye spin-offs (the latter 3 would get limited airtime), Fantastic Max, Pac-Man, Tom & Jerry Kids, Droopy: Master Detective, Don Coyote, and Yo Yogi.


The Cartoon Cartoon Network:

All original Cartoon Network programs, minus the Adult Swim stuff and Warner's stuff that primered on CN (like Justice League and Teen Titans), plus 2 Stupid Dogs and the various CN shorts and bumpers from all over the years. Shows include 2 Stupid Dogs, What a Cartoon! (a.k.a. "World Primere Toons" or "Cartoon Cartoon Show"), Dexter's Lab, the PowerPuff Girls, Cow & Chicken, Johnny Bravo, Ed Edd 'n' Eddy, I Am Weasel, Mike Lu and Og, Courage the Cowardly Dog, King Crab: Space Crustaceon (extremely short-lived), Sheep in the Big City, Time Squad, Samurai Jack, Codename: Kids Next Door, Grim Advetures of Billy and Mandy/Evil Concarne/Grim and Evil, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, the Life and Times of Juniper Lee, and Camp Lazlo.

The Adult Swim Network: All Adult Swim stuff, plus Cartoon Planet, Brak Presents the Brak Show Starring Brak, Aquaman and Friends and some more risque Warner, Paramount and MGM short subjects (like Clampett's stuff, Red and Wolfie and pre-code Betty Boop).


The Classic Kids WB Cartoon Network:

Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies (both old and recent, and fully uncut), Tiny Toon Adventures, Animaniacs, Pinky & The Brain, Pinky Elmyra and The Brain, Freakazoid, Road Rovers, Hysteria, Earthworm Jim (if they can get the syndication rights to it from Universal), Taz-Mania, the Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries, Baby Looney Tunes and Loonitics Unleashed (only at limited airtime), Duck Dodgers, Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, the New Batman Superman Adventures, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Teen Titans, The Batman and Krypto the Superdog.

[Daikun]

The Scooby-Doo ChannelDear god...

[King_of_doom]

The Scooby-Doo Channel
Yikes!


The Cartoon Cartoon Network:

All original Cartoon Network programs, minus the Adult Swim stuff and Warner's stuff that primered on CN (like Justice League and Teen Titans), plus 2 Stupid Dogs and the various CN shorts and bumpers from all over the years. Shows include 2 Stupid Dogs, What a Cartoon! (a.k.a. "World Primere Toons" or "Cartoon Cartoon Show"), Dexter's Lab, the PowerPuff Girls, Cow & Chicken, Johnny Bravo, Ed Edd 'n' Eddy, I Am Weasel, Mike Lu and Og, Courage the Cowardly Dog, King Crab: Space Crustaceon (extremely short-lived), Sheep in the Big City, Time Squad, Samurai Jack, Codename: Kids Next Door, Grim Advetures of Billy and Mandy/Evil Concarne/Grim and Evil, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, the Life and Times of Juniper Lee, and Camp Lazlo.
Where's Megas XLR?

[Howl]

The Scooby-Doo Channel... I wouldn't go that far.

[John Pannozzi]

Dear god...
Look at it this way, all of Scooby-Doo is contained in one channel, and doesn't air on any other channel. So you don't have to watch Scooby-Doo.

[Slane]

... I wouldn't go that far.
Based on the name, I can see that the idea is too much. However, Mr. Pannozzi is not limiting the channel to only Scooby; he is including all mystery shows in the vein of Scooby, as well as other 1970s cartoons, which is a brillaint idea. Let go of hostility towards the over-merchandising of Scooby and think of how you could design the look and bumpers and everything around this one character; I have to accept that Hanna-Barbera pretty much made an entire mystery/canine genre of cartoons that just doesn't fit as well when separated. The only thing I would add is The Shmoo, and I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot more Scooby clones.

Otherwise, I love the Hanna-Barbera separation, and "Termite Terrace" is a great title for the classics channel.

The only things I would move would be to put Megas into the action channel (which I would probably call Toonami for the heck of it) and Laff-A-Lympics to the Crazy Classics Channel (as I just never thought of the show as a Scooby show but as something that encompasses too much of Hanna-Barbera's classics).

Also, since this is limited to Time Warner's holdings, I suppose there would not be any anime (unless you include IGPX). Also, since you included Earthworm Jim, what would you do with other non-Time Warner series that aired on Kids WB and Cartoon Network, such as Jackie Chan Adventures, Men in Black, The Boondocks, Robot Chicken, and Totally Spies?

[Lonestarr]

"Yo Yogi"? '80s "Jetsons"? "Tom and Jerry Kids"?! I assure you that network would fold within 30 days.

I'm pretty sure that there used to be a Termite Terrace Channel. It was called "Cartoon Network". Any idea what happened to that? :confused:

Still, channels for that, Cartoon Cartoons and WB programming from the '90s? I'd subscribe in a heartbeat.

[Dr. Dave]

A Scooby Doo Channel????


Heresy! Cardinal Fang, fetch the comfy chair! :evil:

[John Pannozzi]

The only things I would move would be to put Megas into the action channel (which I would probably call Toonami for the heck of it)
The Toonami name for the action channel is a good idea. BTW, the Termite Terrace channel was only meant to be a tenative working title for the classic theatrical cartoon channel, but thanks for showing support for the name.


and Laff-A-Lympics to the Crazy Classics Channel (as I just never thought of the show as a Scooby show but as something that encompasses too much of Hanna-Barbera's classics). To tell you the truth, I dispise Laff-A-Lympics quite a bit. IMHO, it's a disgrace to Yogi and the Gang (and a disgrace to even Scooby), and I'd MUCH rather have it on a channel dedicated to the cheesy 70s H-B cartoons (as well as all Scooby-Doo productions) than on a network dedicated to Hanna-Barbera's imaginative early TV experiments from the late 1950s and early-to-mid 1960s.


Also, since this is limited to Time Warner's holdings, I suppose there would not be any anime (unless you include IGPX). I would be including anime. Tetsuwan Atom (Astro Boy), Jungle Emperor Leo (Kimba the White Lion), and Testujin #28 (Gigantor) are classics IMHO and deserve respectful treatment on American television. Also, I'd like to squeeze Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT somewhere in one of the channels 'cause I personally like the DB series quite a bit. I'd also like to show Dr. Slump (which was created, like DB, by Akira Toriyama, and is very much a precursior to DB), but that's prob'ly too "adult" for S&P and the FCC.


Also, since you included Earthworm Jim, what would you do with other non-Time Warner series that aired on Kids WB and Cartoon Network, such as Jackie Chan Adventures, Men in Black, The Boondocks, Robot Chicken, and Totally Spies?Jackie Chan Adventures and Men in Black would go on the Kids WB channel, the Boondocks and Robot Chicken would go on the Adult Swim channel, and as for Totally Spies, I'd stick it and that IMHO extremely boring Atomic Betty into limited airtime on the Toonami channel.

[Sketch]

Cartoon Network / CN Kids - The animation newtork for 6-11/9-14. CN as it is, because they probably will never change how I hope they would. Still includes all it's current blocks. Perhaps cutting back on Adult Swim and maybe renaming Toonami if they don't want to simulcast on Saturday nights.
Programing sample: Foster's Home, Billy and Mandy, Code LYOKO, Naruto, Ben 10, Kids Next Door, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Totally Spies

Cartoon Cartoon Network / CN2 - One stop comedy network for 9-14/12-17. Includes CN originals and silverage WB much like how Nicktoons TV doesn't just air Nicktoons.
Programing sample: Dexter's Lab, Animaniacs!, Tiny Toon Adventures, Sheep in the Big City, Duck Dodgers, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo

Boomerang - Only classics forever. Rather than going for slightly newer programs they would go for more old programs and maybe try to dip into obscurity with late night programing focused on classics for adults while daytime is focused on classics kids may enjoy.
- run by Jerry Beck (if at all possible)
Programing sample: Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, The Pink Panther, Underdog, Mighty Mouse, Rock & Bullwinkle, Gigantor

TOONAMI / Warehouse - 1 stop action network for 9-14/12-17. Mostly airing newer aciton programing but a few classics and of course CN/WB action originals. - run by Sean Akins and Jason DeMarco
Programing sample: Samurai Jack, Naruto, Megas XLR, Dragonball Z, One Piece, Batman: TAS, Teen Titans, Ninja Turtles, IGPX, Shaman King

[adult swim] - Already a proven success with 18-34 and counted as it's own network for ratings purposes. They could pull it off I'm sure.
- run by Mike Lazzo
Programing sample: Family Guy, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Inuyasha, Ghost in the Shell, Fullmetal Alchemist, The Boondocks, Cowboy Bebop

[veemonjosh]

I would like a DC animation channel featuring all the theatrical shorts, all the 60's - 80's series including Superfriends, Batman The Animated Series/The New Batman Adventures, Superman The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, The Zeta Project, Justice League/Justice League Unlimited, Teen Titans, The Batman, Krypto: The Superdog, and the telvision premires of Gotham Girls and Lobo (possibly inbetween certant shows, perhaps?). Special events would include all three BTAS movies, Return of The Joker (early evening showings would be edited, late night showings will be uncut.) , Batman VS Dracula, Teen Titans Tokyo (once it comes out), and all the two/three part episodes cut together as movies. Oh yeah, and everything intended for widescreen WILL be widescreen.

That should be MORE than enough to make it's own channel, right?

[Sketch]

Probably not but they might be able to make it work. It'd be hard to get it picked up though. Something that might help would be to include live action programing as well and that also gives you a lot more movie options.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Sketch basically has my idea down:

CN Kids: Today's Cartoon Network + Tickle U and Miguzi. Not sure if Toonami would remain on the network or become part of Toonami network, ditto to Adult swim.

Animation Station or Cartoon Cartoon Network (C-Squared): Cartoon Cartoons, 90s Kids WB material, Batman: TAS & Superman: TAS, and perhaps some other 90s animated series that today's CN considers "evil and useless!" Shows like Duck Dodgers would show up on this network too, rather than Boomerang. Includes movies.

Boomerang: Classic material from the 1930s-1980s. Variety everyday whether it's comedy, action, musicals, obscure shows, etc. Cartoons from they year 1990 don't show up until 2010, and so on. Dexter's Lab going to Boomerang now is just riddiculous. :P

Adult Swim/Toonami: Toonami themed shows from the hours of 6 AM-7PM Adult Swim Shows from 7PM-6 AM. By this time, I would hope for Adult Swim to acquire The Simpsons to air at the 7 PM hour and again at the 9 PM with with WS goodness between those hours and after (along with Family Guy and many other great shows as well. :))

[Wanted]

Keep in mind that Turner already runs eight (or so) networks, with a maximum of twelve allotted.

So... the libraries.

Boomerang - Same original concept. It's all coming back to you. Though, with this Boomerang, I'm sure they could at least put more money and effort into it.
Cartoon Network - It couldn't possibly get any worse. After all, Cartoon Network has been the go-to destination for animation fans of all ages (I hope to change that, though).

And, the additions:

TOONAMI / Warehouse - 1 stop action network for 9-14/12-17. Mostly airing newer aciton programing but a few classics and of course CN/WB action originals. - run by Sean Akins and Jason DeMarco

[adult swim] - Already a proven success with 18-34 and counted as it's own network for ratings purposes. They could pull it off I'm sure.
- run by Mike LazzoThe three actual "cartoon networks" would be Boomerang, Cartoon Network, and Toonami/Warehouse, and [adult swim] could run a bit of live-action (no 24-hour network could continue to rake in adult ratings with just animation), thus making it seem like Turner's not going overboard with animation.

[veemonjosh]

Probably not but they might be able to make it work. It'd be hard to get it picked up though. Something that might help would be to include live action programing as well and that also gives you a lot more movie options.
Well, then everyone would be complaining that they would show Batman Forever and Batman and Robin! (ok, they would be complaining that Krypto would be showing as well, but it's not that bad.)

[Draft]

Boomerang 1900-1960

all of ur favorite warner brothers cartoons, mgm cartoons and hanna barbera beginings on one channel, head staples looney tunes and tom ands jerry

Boomerang 1960-1985

all of hanna barbera's golden age cartons from 1960-1985 staples: scooby doo, flinstones

Classic saturday morning cartoons

all of those favorite satursday morning cartoons, that weren't made by hanna barbera staples: underdog, popeye(?)

cartoon network

no explanation

Kids wb on cartoon network

basicly, all of the kids wb shows on one networkcartoon cartoon network

cartoon cartoons network

all of ur fav cartoon catoons(also with sj, xlr, and pants)

cartoon network 2(or tickle u/miguzi/toonami/adult swim)

the boomerang of all cartoon network cartoon's not cartooon network originals

[Mr Cat Dog]

In my opinion, it's better to have a little amount of channels concentrated with goodness instead of loads of channels diluted with constant reruns, so I'm only suggesting three separate networks:

Cartoon Network
A network for premiering the "finest" in comedy for children. Shows such as Foster's, Ed, Edd and Eddy, Puffy, and any other new CN original comedies would premiere here, as well as action shows proven to be popular on CNX, mentioned below. Primary demographic would be 6-11, and would only contain Fridays and Tickle U in terms of blocks, as Miguzi, AS and Toonami would be ported to CNX. Old CCs would air in the primetime slots, and possibly the old AS slots.

Boomerang
A nostalgia network - NOT A CLASSIC CARTOONS NETWORK! A network where adults can watch the shows they watched growing up; stuff they consider better than todays trash. Also contains CCs that had a more subtle sense of humour, and new shows that are remeniscent of the good ol' days - as adults and teens seem to like these. Primary demographics would be 9-14/12-17/18-49 Examples of programming would include Top Cat, Wacky Races, Looney Tunes, Pink Panther, Duck Dodgers, Animaniacs, Histeria! etc.

Cartoon Network X
An action network acting as three main blocks on Cartoon Network. From 6am-6pm, CNX acts as a Miguzi/Toonami hybrid, airing DC shows through the day, when the kids are at school, then the shows they're used to such as Teen Titans, Totally Spies etc when they come home from school. From 6pm-6am, CNX acts as a Toonami/Adult Swim hybrid, airing quality action shows such as Samurai Jack and uncensored anime - less mainstream - in the later hours, along with the finest of AS comedies such as ATHF and Harvey Birdman. Primary demographics would be 9-14/12-17/18-35. Examples of programming would include Teen Titans, JLU, Naruto (possibly uncut), Gundam, Dragonball Z Uncut, Fullmetal Alchemist, Sealab 2021, ATHF, Harvey Birdman

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Just my suggestions.

[Ishtar]

For now the only additional channels CN could use could be an [adult swim] channel and a Toonami channel. I don't think all the old cartoon cartoons need their own channels for themselves, but with [adult swim] off CN due to having it's own channel, old cartoon cartoons could air where [adult swim] currently is. 11pm-6 am on sat-thurs is plenty of time to show a lot of the old cartoon cartoons. Toonami premieres could stay on CN Saturdays for a while because a Toonami channel probably wouldn't be easy to get at first, but I have no doubt that an [adult swim] channel would probably be easier to get. Boomerang can stay the way it is, except Baby Looney Tunes, and What's New Scooby Doo need to go.

[Sketch]

Keep in mind that Turner already runs eight (or so) networks, with a maximum of twelve allotted.

So... the libraries.

Boomerang - Same original concept. It's all coming back to you. Though, with this Boomerang, I'm sure they could at least put more money and effort into it.
Cartoon Network - It couldn't possibly get any worse. After all, Cartoon Network has been the go-to destination for animation fans of all ages (I hope to change that, though).

And, the additions:

The three actual "cartoon networks" would be Boomerang, Cartoon Network, and Toonami/Warehouse, and [adult swim] could run a bit of live-action (no 24-hour network could continue to rake in adult ratings with just animation), thus making it seem like Turner's not going overboard with animation.
If an AS channel were made with not just animation the live-aciton comedy / action would have to be really really good stuff. Maybe Arrested Development on the comedy side (since FOX canned it). But actually I believe they could pull it off with just animation. Remember the average episode of Family Guy can top much of network television in ratings. Granted not much else does but they're also very late at night. Daytime AS should beat at lot of current channels in daytime ratings if it hits daytime because it often beats them at whole day ratings.

[Natey]

Cartoon Network / CN Kids - The animation newtork for 6-11/9-14. CN as it is, because they probably will never change how I hope they would. Still includes all it's current blocks. Perhaps cutting back on Adult Swim and maybe renaming Toonami if they don't want to simulcast on Saturday nights.
Programing sample: Foster's Home, Billy and Mandy, Code LYOKO, Naruto, Ben 10, Kids Next Door, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Totally Spies

Cartoon Cartoon Network / CN2 - One stop comedy network for 9-14/12-17. Includes CN originals and silverage WB much like how Nicktoons TV doesn't just air Nicktoons.
Programing sample: Dexter's Lab, Animaniacs!, Tiny Toon Adventures, Sheep in the Big City, Duck Dodgers, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo

Boomerang - Only classics forever. Rather than going for slightly newer programs they would go for more old programs and maybe try to dip into obscurity with late night programing focused on classics for adults while daytime is focused on classics kids may enjoy.
- run by Jerry Beck (if at all possible)
Programing sample: Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, The Pink Panther, Underdog, Mighty Mouse, Rock & Bullwinkle, Gigantor

TOONAMI / Warehouse - 1 stop action network for 9-14/12-17. Mostly airing newer aciton programing but a few classics and of course CN/WB action originals. - run by Sean Akins and Jason DeMarco
Programing sample: Samurai Jack, Naruto, Megas XLR, Dragonball Z, One Piece, Batman: TAS, Teen Titans, Ninja Turtles, IGPX, Shaman King

[adult swim] - Already a proven success with 18-34 and counted as it's own network for ratings purposes. They could pull it off I'm sure.
- run by Mike Lazzo
Programing sample: Family Guy, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Inuyasha, Ghost in the Shell, Fullmetal Alchemist, The Boondocks, Cowboy Bebop
exactly. everyone gets what they want. Man you took the words right out of my mouth SKetch

[Sketch]

Why thank you. I do try.

[iggy]

3 or 4 stations is a more realistic goal

1 cartoon network current shows
2. pre 1980 cartoons( forever)
3. 80's and 90's cartoons
4. Toonami and adult swim

wouldnt it be awesome to own your own tv station:zim: