View Full Version : I'm starting to think Smallville is building towards...(spoilers)
Style
11-19-2005, 07:08 PM
...A showdown between Clark and General Zod, possibly at the end of the series. I mean, when we saw "The disciples of Zod," I thought it was just a nice movies/comics reference. But the Brainiac story turned out to involve Zod as well.
Now I'm starting to think there's more to it. That Zod may be the big villain for the end of the season, perhaps the end of the series. Oh, wouldn't it be totally sweet if Zod escaped, started wrecking havoc in Smallville, makes his way to Metropolis, and that's what forces Clark to "come out of the shadows," and step forward to battle Zod as the fully costumed Superman!
Yeah, I don't know if that's even possible with the rights issues right now, but it WOULD be sweet!
"No tights, no flights".
Clark will never become Superman on Smallville, but I wouldn't be surprised if Zod is the main villian of this arc. Perhaps sending him to the Phantom Zone for the 1st time?
BatKid
11-19-2005, 07:58 PM
The "no flight" rule has already been broken. I'd say at this point, anything is possible.
Style
11-19-2005, 08:54 PM
"No tights, no flights".It now reads "No Tights, No flights" (Shoot, they broke the "No Flights" rule in the second episode!)
Besides, People who keep quoting that are misreading it: They think it applies as a concrete show until the end. But I always assumed that the plan was that he'd become Superman at the very end of the series, like the last episode or something.
Well if Smallvile were to end when Superman Returns came out, I'd be all for it.
But supposedly the actor that plays Clark has a Super-phobia (ie, he doesn't want to be associated as Superman, but being Clark is OK)
ManicWebb
11-19-2005, 09:12 PM
But supposedly the actor that plays Clark has a Super-phobia (ie, he doesn't want to be associated as Superman, but being Clark is OK)
That's because past actors who played Superman in the past have had... limited careers afterward. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything Christopher Reeve did after Superman IV, other than become wheelchair-bound. Since Lois & Clark, I think Dean Cain has had a string of unknown B-movies and a hosting job for Ripley's. And whatever happened to the guys who played Superboy in the 80s?
Heck, even Tim Daly can't hold on to a TV show for more than half a season.
Wounded_Dragon
11-19-2005, 09:27 PM
Just to head off the Batman comparison before it takes place, most've the Batman actors had big roles *before* donning the cape and cowl.
Oh, and didn't that actor who played Superman on the old tv show kill himself?
90'sCartoonMan
11-19-2005, 11:12 PM
Oh, and didn't that actor who played Superman on the old tv show kill himself?
From Wikipedia:
In the early morning hours of June 16 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_16), 1959 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959), three days before a planned wedding to Lenore Lemmon, he went to bed after a long night with guests. Shortly thereafter, a shot rang out, and he was found dead in his bedroom with a gunshot wound to the head. An official inquiry concluded that the death was suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide). However, some friends and associates disputed this explanation, and fans have speculated in the years since as to whether his death was actually a murder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder), and if so, at whose hand, or whether he faked his own death and disappeared.
Welling is really afraid to be Superman? Actors are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
Back to Style's original question, I feel like a Zod confrontation is coming, but I figured it'd be more a season ender rather than a series ender with Clark putting on his costume to fight him (I feel like when Clark becomes Superman at the end of the series, it'll be for a more human reason, like Clark needs to have a symbol to inspire people in a hopeless world where people like Lex Luthor succeed through greed and manipulation).
Although, how would Clark be able to beat Zod anyway at this stage in his life? Actually, I guess Johnathan can always come up behind him with some kryptonite and they can just toss him back in the Phantom Zone.
Damien
11-20-2005, 03:46 AM
And whatever happened to the guys who played Superboy in the 80s?
I'm not sure what happened to the guy that played him for the first season in '89, but Gerard Christopher, the actor who played Superboy from the second season on, ended up hooking up with a Morrocan princess and I believe getting her pregnant, but the relationship didn't last. He then found a new love and married her in California a couple years ago, I believe.
My acting teacher at my community college was assistant director for seasons 2 and 3 (or was it 2 and 4?) He stayed friends Christopher, although last he told me, Superboy was peeved that my teacher couldn't make the wedding, but he really didn't have the money to get out there.
My teacher also worked on The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo. I thought that was pretty killer, too.
dendawg
11-20-2005, 07:21 AM
From Wikipedia:snip.
Wikipedia is only as accurate as it's contributors, therefore it cannot be considered a definitive source.
Damien
11-20-2005, 02:26 PM
Note on Welling as Superman: The show's creators said they'd like to end the series with Clark packing up the suit and heading for Metropolis. Of course, this is also back when they said they'd like to bring in Bruce Wayne during the third season.
I haven't heard Welling having a fear of the "Superman curse", but he said awhile ago he didn't want to wear the costume. Hopefully, that's changed or will change as well.
Squall
11-20-2005, 10:40 PM
Oh, wouldn't it be totally sweet if Zod escaped, started wrecking havoc in Smallville, makes his way to Metropolis, and that's what forces Clark to "come out of the shadows," and step forward to battle Zod as the fully costumed Superman!
That's a great idea for the way to end the series. I hope that the writers on Smallville do just that. :)
As for the "rules," we're talking about the series finale here... the place to break all the rules! :anime:
mr jinx
11-20-2005, 11:30 PM
It now reads "No Tights, No flights" (Shoot, they broke the "No Flights" rule in the second episode!) well they never said "no tights, no floats":D
Besides, People who keep quoting that are misreading it: They think it applies as a concrete show until the end. But I always assumed that the plan was that he'd become Superman at the very end of the series, like the last episode or something. i think they have said that he will don the suit in the last episode.
well they never said "no tights, no floats":D
i think they have said that he will don the suit in the last episode.
And $5 says that last episode is around the same time Superman Returns is. How far off is that?
The Penguin
11-21-2005, 12:02 AM
And $5 says that last episode is around the same time Superman Returns is. How far off is that?This coming summer. You just predicted that this is Smallville's last season. I think I could take my 5 bucks now.
well, what better way to promote the movie than having the series finale with him doning the superman suit or after savingt he world he goes, i need to disguise myself and the last shot you see the Superman logo.
specially with their best ratings right now it will definately not end now.
90'sCartoonMan
11-21-2005, 10:42 PM
snip.
Wikipedia is only as accurate as it's contributors, therefore it cannot be considered a definitive source.
Fair enough.
From IMDB:
His career had slid to the point where he was considering an attempt at exhibition wrestling when he committed suicide (http://www.imdb.com/SearchBios?suicide) by shooting himself. Controversy still surrounds his death, due mainly to the fact of his longtime affair with Toni Lanier (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1036645/) (aka Toni Mannix), the wife of MGM executive E.J. Mannix (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0543440/). Many of Reeves' friends and colleagues didn't believe that he had committed suicide (http://www.imdb.com/SearchBios?suicide) but that his death was related to the Mannix situation. However, no credible evidence has ever been produced to support that contention.
Hey, if Smallville continues after Superman Returns, is there going to be a Lex/Lois ban?
Style
11-21-2005, 10:47 PM
Note on Welling as Superman: The show's creators said they'd like to end the series with Clark packing up the suit and heading for Metropolis. Of course, this is also back when they said they'd like to bring in Bruce Wayne during the third season. They have been trying to get Bruce in since the first season. But Warners and/or DC kept killing the idea, first for the "Bruce Wayne" series, then for "Year One," Then finally for "Begins." At this point, putting him in their would probably contradict "Begins," so it won't happen.
I haven't heard Welling having a fear of the "Superman curse", but he said awhile ago he didn't want to wear the costume. Hopefully, that's changed or will change as well. The Superman curse doesn't apply unless your name is "Reeve(s)." That's why Matrix 2 and 3 is not only the closest Keanu Reeves will ever come to playing Superman, it's the closest he'd ever WANT to come as well.
Style
11-21-2005, 10:49 PM
Hey, if Smallville continues after Superman Returns, is there going to be a Lex/Lois ban? Man, DC fans have become paranoid about bans. Well, a Lois Ban would be fine, but a Lex ban would tear a large portion of the heart out of the show.
Damien
11-22-2005, 04:48 PM
This coming summer. You just predicted that this is Smallville's last season. I think I could take my 5 bucks now.Remember Angel?
At this point, putting him in their would probably contradict "Begins," so it won't happen.Not necessarily. This show isn't connected with the new movie, and the new movie most likely takes place in the same universe as BB, although not stated directly (much like the Marvel films...they're all Marvel, even if they don't cross over each other).
GCFyouthcamper
11-22-2005, 09:53 PM
well, what better way to promote the movie than having the series finale with him doning the superman suit or after savingt he world he goes, i need to disguise myself and the last shot you see the Superman logo.
As damien just said, I don't think the smallville show and the movies are connected, at least in the sense that smallville would try to promote the movie.
90'sCartoonMan
11-22-2005, 10:31 PM
The Superman curse doesn't apply unless your name is "Reeve(s)." That's why Matrix 2 and 3 is not only the closest Keanu Reeves will ever come to playing Superman, it's the closest he'd ever WANT to come as well.
Interesting historical sidebar, George Reeves was born "George Keefer Brewer", so aparently name changing rules apply. If Keanu Reeves wanted to play Superman, he'd have to change his name to "Norman Kreeves" or "Chuck Spidena" to avoid the curse. Here's hoping the curse doesn't affect people named "George".
Oh, and I don't care about a ban on Smallville (well, sorta), I'm just protective of Justice League Unlimited
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