View Full Version : Sony products can cause mass destruction?!?
Scorpio_G
11-14-2005, 05:25 PM
From a program embeded into their CDs!?! :eek:
http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-6376177.html?part=rss&subj=edfeat&tag=DRM+this%2C+Sony%21
I understand Sony has to protect their products from DwnLoaders and pirates and I want to support the artist but how can I have sympathy for a company that can open the door to trojans, hackers, and destroying not only my Hard Drive but any other product that uses CD!?!? :mad:
PS: I didnt know weather to put this in the Entertainment board or this board so if it's suppose to be in the latter then please move it. Thanks. :)
Artimus Gigan
11-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Meh, when the PS2 was released many said it could be linked up and could launch long range missles. I sofar have seen nothing of relative signifigance that has been destroyed in this manner.
Scorpio_G
11-14-2005, 05:38 PM
Meh, when the PS2 was released many said it could be linked up and could launch long range missles. I sofar have seen nothing of relative signifigance that has been destroyed in this manner.
I remeber that. I think it was in the Mid East and "somehow" the frequencies that ommited from the PS2 could cause LRM to automaticly go off. But that's just a stupid myth. :bluu:
Humble
11-14-2005, 05:47 PM
It's always great to find out that a company is taking draconian measures to prevent piracy.
Canti isn't as lovable as he used to be. :shrug:
-Humble
Karl Olson
11-14-2005, 05:59 PM
There are already numerous reports of Sony's new CD DRM not only trashing computers (http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html), but being used by people in online games to make their cheats undetectable (http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/34) and being used by viruses and trojans as well (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/10/sony_drm_trojan/), and even the usually DRM supportive Microsoft will now be including Sony's DRM rootkit as a target piece of malware in Microsoft AntiSpyware (aka Windows Defender.) (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1886122,00.asp) Sony, rather than pull the protection scheme immediately, intially changed just the EULA in relation to their CDs, basically making it so they couldn't be held liable for any damage. However, when it became apparent that even that wouldn't protect them legally, they finally stopped including the DRM rootkit.
Basically, this was a genuine threat, but thankfully, it's already been taken care of.
Karl Olson
11-18-2005, 05:18 AM
I usually hate double posting, but a found a great article about just how problematic Sony's copy protection scheme is:
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,69573,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7
Atleast a half a million compromised networks. I really hope Sony takes it in the pocketbook for this one.
Delthayre
11-18-2005, 06:11 AM
Meh, when the PS2 was released many said it could be linked up and could launch long range missles. I sofar have seen nothing of relative signifigance that has been destroyed in this manner.
This is a bit different in that the, "mass destruction," here is closer to being figurative, I suppose it may be nearer to literal if you're disconcertingly concerned for technology, and has actually happened rather than being a strange and somewhat paranoid hypothetical.
Karl Olson
11-19-2005, 04:12 AM
And now it gets better: Sony stole opensource code to use in their damaging DRM system. (http://hack.fi/~muzzy/sony-drm/)
In other words, not only did they make something that poses a massive security risk to people computers, they did so while stealing code from other people. Kudos Sony, you've just given everyone good reason to never support you again, atleast until all parties wronged by you are given the justice they deserve.
zmanjz
11-19-2005, 10:59 AM
And now it gets better: Sony stole opensource code to use in their damaging DRM system. (http://hack.fi/~muzzy/sony-drm/)
In other words, not only did they make something that poses a massive security risk to people computers, they did so while stealing code from other people. Kudos Sony, you've just given everyone good reason to never support you again, atleast until all parties wronged by you are given the justice they deserve.
The Irony in all this of course being that the Sony Betamax was the original home media copying device.
Karl Olson
11-19-2005, 12:19 PM
The Irony in all this of course being that the Sony Betamax was the original home media copying device.
Granted, why didn't take over the consumer industry? Because they were being selfish and proprietary. Why did they put this agressive DRM on their discs? Because they were being selfish and proprietary.
In a sense, Sony's mindset hasn't changed in 30 years.
Paul_Cousins
11-23-2005, 01:45 AM
And now it gets better: Sony stole opensource code to use in their damaging DRM system. (http://hack.fi/~muzzy/sony-drm/)
In other words, not only did they make something that poses a massive security risk to people computers, they did so while stealing code from other people. Kudos Sony, you've just given everyone good reason to never support you again, atleast until all parties wronged by you are given the justice they deserve.It gets better, it seem there is another program on those CDs designed to screw over Mac computers.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/sony_bmg_mac_drm/
As of right now, Calf, Texas and EFF each have a class action lawsuit filed against Sony/BGM.
These story just keeps growing.
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