Dragonball Z Talkback (09/19- 09/22)

[bigddan11]

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Another week has arrived for uncut premeires on CN. Goku is speeding toward Planet Namek while training at 50 times gravity, and Krillin has gained control of the 1 star Dragon Ball. Vegeta has also been severly injured and is being healed by Freiza, but what punishment awaits him? Meanwhile Freiza has called for the Ginyu Force to come to Planet Namek, but how fearsome is this group? It will only take them 9 days to arrive. These answers and more await us this week on Dragonball Z.



Monday, September 19- Piccolo Vs. Everyone
Tuesday, September 20- Zarbon's Mission
Wednesday, September 21- Gohan, The Hunted
Thursday, September 22- New Enemies from Beyond



Today- Piccolo Vs. Everyone- (original title) Back From the Brinck of Death. The Miracle Man, Vegeta- The training on King Kai's planet has intensified as the gang has moved onto facing Gregory, but Piccolo refuses to participate until they do some head-to-head sparring. How will he fare against the others increased strength and speed? Meanwhile on Namek Zarbon takes the unconscious Vegeta back to be healed and tortured. What tricks await Vegeta when he comes to?

[G1Ravage]

Meanwhile Freiza has called for the Ginyu Force to come to Planet Namek, but how fearsome is this group? It will only take them 9 days to arrive.
The Ginyu Special Corps will arrive in five days.

Meanwhile on Namek Zarbon takes the unconscious Freiza back to be healed and tortured. What tricks await Vegeta when he comes to?
Uhh...

[bigddan11]

The Ginyu Special Corps will arrive in five days.Last Thursday on the FUNi dub they had Linda Cook's Freiza say 9 days, or so said the captions, but any way you put it they arrive this Thursday.

Uhh...Zarbon straight out said he wanted Vegeta to be healed so he would be conscious when he tortured him to find out the location of the Dragonball, therefore he took him to their base to be healed and then tortured.

[sedorna]

Meanwhile on Namek Zarbon takes the unconscious Freiza back to be healed and tortured. What tricks await Vegeta when he comes to?

Boy, Frieza's not going to be happy when he discovers Zarbon wants to torture him.

[bigddan11]

Boy, Frieza's not going to be happy when he discovers Zarbon wants to torture him.
I didn't realize that I had posted Freiza instead of Vegeta. The correction has now been made.

[G1Ravage]

Tonight's episode:

English - "Piccolo vs. Everyone"

Japanese - "Back from the Brink of Death -- The Miracle Man, Vegeta"

[CyberCubed]

Vegeta is a miracle man? Hoo boy, even the Japanese have corny titles.

[Ishtar]

They took out the dentist joke.

[CyberCubed]

Yamcha, Tien, and Chaotsu owning Piccolo? Now that's something you don't see everyday.

Of course you know when Piccolo takes off his cape and turban that play time is over. Too bad we didn't see more of that fight.

Also, what's with the glances between Piccolo and King Kai? Piccolo grabs him as if he's about to threaten him, and then King Kai's glasses flash, and Piccolo quickly lets go of him as if he knows King Kai has some sort of power over him. Piccolo looked pretty scared too.

[G1Ravage]

So, Sabat got to do all the swearing today.

[Duke]

Yamcha, Tien, and Chaotsu owning Piccolo? Now that's something you don't see everyday.I have a feeling that training in 10x gravity made them catch up to Piccolo, considering their huge power difference in the Androids Saga.

[bigddan11]

I have a feeling that training in 10x gravity made them catch up to Piccolo, considering their huge power difference in the Androids Saga.
Of course Piccolo flies past them when he merges with Nail, and that difference only increases when he trains with Goku and Gohan before Cell, and finally merges with Kami allowing him to come to his maximum (except for increased strength by training).

[FireStarterLE]

at least for a short time they had moment like Krillin did in Dragonball, when Roshi said he was stronger than Goku ..... then everything goes down hill from there and they start getting less appearences

[Duke]

Of course Piccolo flies past them when he merges with Nail, and that difference only increases when he trains with Goku and Gohan before Cell, and finally merges with Kami allowing him to come to his maximum (except for increased strength by training).I said the Android Saga (i.e. when they're fighting Gero, 19, 17, & 18).

[rabidrednek]

I remember in the first airing, when Piccolo smashed Chaotzu into the ground King Kai said if things got too rough then he'd just "reverse time". Having him say "Hello? you're already dead!" was so much better.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

it didn't seem like much happened. most of the time was taken up by the dead guys and the rest by Vegetas brilliant db stealing plan. were Gohan and Krillen even shown :confused: it flew by to fast

[bigddan11]

I said the Android Saga (i.e. when they're fighting Gero, 19, 17, & 18).
I know, but part of that is because Piccolo merges with Nail during the Freiza saga causing his power to increase.

[Duke]

I know, but part of that is because Piccolo merges with Nail during the Freiza saga causing his power to increase.It only rose to 42,000. He's probably well over 10 million by the time 19 & 20 attack.

[Ultra Mike]

I remember in the first airing, when Piccolo smashed Chaotzu into the ground King Kai said if things got too rough then he'd just "reverse time". Having him say "Hello? you're already dead!" was so much better.
This rule kind of contradicts itself later in the Kid Buu saga. Before Vegeta was wished back to life, everyone worried that if Buu killed him when he was dead he would disappear forever. That's what I remember anyway.

It only rose to 42,000. He's probably well over 10 million by the time 19 & 20 attack.
Uh, no. That was Nail's power level. Piccolo was higher when he was revived, and when he fused with Nail became about a million. Strong enough to go head to head with 2nd Form Freeza. It's due to his training by the Andriod Saga that's he over 10 Million. Around that Time I believe Tien and the others were only about 2/3 million at best or something like that.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Filler I don't like.

[Ajax]

It only rose to 42,000. He's probably well over 10 million by the time 19 & 20 attack. Someone said it, hell no Piccolo was only at 42,000 when he fused with Nail. I mean IIRC, don't Yamacha and Tien eventually became strong enough to defeat the Ginyu Force without much difficultly? So imagine where that left Piccolo before he fused with Nail (who was the one with the power level of 42,000)? And it was proclaimed that there was only one time that Piccolo was ever stronger than a super saiyan, and obviously it was when he fused with Kami.


This rule kind of contradicts itself later in the Kid Buu saga. Before Vegeta was wished back to life, everyone worried that if Buu killed him when he was dead he would disappear forever. That's what I remember anyway. Yeah that made me think back too. When Buu somehow (I forget) entered the afterlife Krillin and every other dead person were afraid of "being killed" a second time and disappering forever.

[G1Ravage]

This rule kind of contradicts itself later in the Kid Buu saga. Before Vegeta was wished back to life, everyone worried that if Buu killed him when he was dead he would disappear forever. That's what I remember anyway.
That's the technical rule in the Dragon Ball universe. Once you're dead, and you're allowed to keep your body, if you die again you disappear forever. But it's very difficult to die as an astral body, because any "injuries" you receive typically heal right away. So the only real way to die when you're dead is to be phased out of existence by a powerful Ki blast in the same physical plain.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, Krillin and Yamcha were scared about being killed by Kid Buu in Otherworld. Goku even warned Vegeta, "If you die again, you won't exist anymore."

Pretty much why I liked the Buu saga, Kid Buu is the only villain who would not only kill everyone in the universe, but would kill everyone AGAIN in the afterlife! So no matter what, you weren't safe from Kid Buu. He's the only villain that would have destroyed literally everything, in both the living world and the other world.

[G1Ravage]

Tonight's non-edited episode:

English - "Zarbon's Mission"

Japanese - "An Enormous Battle Power!! Freeza's Strategy Shattered"

We've all been waiting for this one. :D

...Ah never mind. That's tomorrow. :sad:

[Master Moron]

Also, what's with the glances between Piccolo and King Kai? Piccolo grabs him as if he's about to threaten him, and then King Kai's glasses flash, and Piccolo quickly lets go of him as if he knows King Kai has some sort of power over him. Piccolo looked pretty scared too.

Piccolo didn't let go, King Kai moved out of Picollo's hold because he's a lot quicker than Piccolo.

Anyway, if anyone's wondering what Appul said that pissed Vegeta off so much in the original, he called Vegeta "Vegeta-chan". Using chan on a male is considered EXTREMELY insulting to the Japanese.

[CyberCubed]

With the way Vegeta just threatened to kill Bulma, you'd never think that these two would eventually get together and have children later on in the series. :sweat:

[Ultra Mike]

I bet Vegeta wishes that later he could imitate Bulma that easily. Ironically the first time they meet in the series and she's already swooning. Well okay it's for Zarbon but still.

And if we're speaking of phrases they use on characters in the Japanese version dosen't Vegeta never call Krillin "Krillin" in this saga. Dosen't he just called him "that human" or "hey you" or something like that. Oh well maybe that's later

[Chuquita]

Did Vegeta just say "kisama" or did I mishear him? :eek:

[Dark Fact]

So this was the episode where Vegeta meets Bulma for the first time and just brushes her off as a "silly girl"?

I wonder how he will execute the "wrath" line? :rolleyes2

[rabidrednek]

Next time, on DragonBall Z!!!

Zarbon gets his ass handed to him

[Master Moron]

And if we're speaking of phrases they use on characters in the Japanese version dosen't Vegeta never call Krillin "Krillin" in this saga. Dosen't he just called him "that human" or "hey you" or something like that. Oh well maybe that's later

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Vegeta doesn't know Krillen's name yet.

[Ultra Mike]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Vegeta doesn't know Krillen's name yet.
I think Goku said Krillin's name a few times during the speech at the end of the Sayian Saga where he said to let Vegeta go. I'm more assuming that Vegeta wouldn't say it out of disrespect. Because why should he, a mighty Sayian Prince have to say Krillin's name or something like that.

[G1Ravage]

Next time, on DragonBall Z!!!

Zarbon gets his ass handed to him
Actually:

He gets his stomach handed to him.

[G1Ravage]

Meh...I really didn't like the script, OR the acting from Sabat as Zarbon and Young as Freeza. Neither of them can scream out dialogue and keep their voices, and the script was off to the point where what the characters were saying wasn't matching what they were actually doing.

Interestingly, Terry Klassen's name is now gone from the credits, and someone totally new is now listed. Maybe it's his fault.

[G1Ravage]

Did Vegeta just say "kisama" or did I mishear him? :eek:
Er-wha? o.o

[Daikun]

Is it just me, or is "damn" being said a lot more than ever this week?

How many times was it uttered in tonight's episode? It seems like they're just letting the word fly all over the place.

[G1Ravage]

Is it just me, or is "damn" being said a lot more than ever this week?

How many times was it uttered in tonight's episode? It seems like they're just letting the word fly all over the place.
Twice.

Yeah, suddenly it's flying around like that's always been the norm in this show. Bizarre what's happened to this "Ultimate Uncut" redub since the first episodes with Raditz. Maybe FUNi's been reading our threads. :eek:

[CyberCubed]

FUNI is having them say "damn" a lot now because the redub is almost over!

FUNI knows that they only have a couple of episodes left to redub, so they're most likely trying to add whatever swears they want that they couldn't add into the later seasons.

[A.Magik]

A better title to this episode would be When Vejita met Buruma.

I think Goku said Krillin's name a few times during the speech at the end of the Sayian Saga where he said to let Vegeta go. I'm more assuming that Vegeta wouldn't say it out of disrespect. Because why should he, a mighty Sayian Prince have to say Krillin's name or something like that.Problem with that theory is that in that scene, Goku was speaking to Kuririn telepathically, not by mouth. There was no way Vejita could learn the guy's name from that.

Geez, we have Gohan burying corpses. That's gotta leave some mark on the young kid!

A.Magik

[O-chan]

A better title to this episode would be When Vejita met Buruma.

Problem with that theory is that in that scene, Goku was speaking to Kuririn telepathically, not by mouth. There was no way Vejita could learn the guy's name from that.

Geez, we have Gohan burying corpses. That's gotta leave some mark on the young kid!

A.Magik Uh...like watching Yamcha, Chaoutzu, Tien, and Piccolo get killed in the previous arc didn't. I'm thinking all this is just build-up to when Gohan finally snaps in the Cell saga .

O-chan

[Duke]

Problem with that theory is that in that scene, Goku was speaking to Kuririn telepathically, not by mouth. There was no way Vejita could learn the guy's name from that.All of the Z-Fighters' names were said many times during the Saibamen and Nappa attacks. It would've been easy for Vegeta to pick up whose name was who.

[Ishtar]

Twice.

Yeah, suddenly it's flying around like that's always been the norm in this show. Bizarre what's happened to this "Ultimate Uncut" redub since the first episodes with Raditz. Maybe FUNi's been reading our threads. :eek:But all these eps were already dubbed before they started airing. Kyle Hebert said himself that they finished during the Summer of 2004.

[Master Moron]

All of the Z-Fighters' names were said many times during the Saibamen and Nappa attacks. It would've been easy for Vegeta to pick up whose name was who.

I'm just not sure Vegeta was paying that much attention. Vegeta's been in so many fights that I imagine he doesn't bother to remember the names of all the people he fights. I mean, does he remember the Arlians' names? Probably not.

[Duke]

I'm just not sure Vegeta was paying that much attention. Vegeta's been in so many fights that I imagine he doesn't bother to remember the names of all the people he fights. I mean, does he remember the Arlians' names? Probably not.Vegeta probably remembered them for a few hours after the destruction, but they didn't have much of an impact on his life. However, the Earthlings basically kicked his ass, he'd remember all their names. And when Goku only talked telepathically to Krillin in the beginning. The vast majority of that speech was spoken out loud, since the two warriors weren't that far away. I believe Goku even shouted "KRILLIN! STOP!"

Now whether Vegeta would give Krillin enough respect to say his name at this point is debatable...

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Vegetas on the fly planning to steal the dbs and escape was just great! why is it no extra scouters were on Freezas ship or built into it for that matter? :confused: its a shame Krillens powerup goes to waste since all of the badguys are still strong making him useless :( it would be nice if he could have been stronger then Vegeta for a short while. and wheres Bulmas priorities? she's there to bring back her dead boyfriend so she goes and crushes on Zarbon the second she sees him :confused:

[jv2k]

and wheres Bulmas priorities? she's there to bring back her dead boyfriend so she goes and crushes on Zarbon the second she sees him :confused: Your forgeting that this is the person who when a village was being terrorised by a shapeshifting monster came out and went "hi I'm bulma and I'm sweet 16" and then revieled her breast size, only to run away the moment he changed back into a scarier form.

[Ajax]

why is it no extra scouters were on Freezas ship or built into it for that matter? :confused: its a shame Krillens powerup goes to waste since all of the badguys are still strong making him useless :( it would be nice if he could have been stronger then Vegeta for a short while. and You known that always bothered me about the whole scouters thing. They knew they were gonna need scouters in order to find the dragon balls, so why no one brought any extras always seemed like a convenient plot line. Having only Vegeta and the humans with the only means to finding the balls.
And Krillins power up wasn't that useless. Him and Gohan were able to hold there own with at least the weakest of the Ginyus.

[G1Ravage]

Tonight's stomach-turning episode:

English - "Gohan, the Hunted"

Japanese - "I'm Back to My Old Self Again!! Goku Takes On a 100G Force"

[ChaosZero92]

Does anyone notice that Goku looks like Vegeta in a few of the close-up shots of him hanging from the tether? :confused:

[CyberCubed]

Sabat did a much better job as Zarbon today than yesterday. Yesterday he just seemed off, today he actually sounded close to the Ocean group Zarbon.

As I said yesterday, funny how Vegeta threatens to kill Bulma yet these two end up together later in the series.

Also of note how Vegeta didn't harm either Krillin or Bulma after he got his Dragonball. Had this been anyone else, wouldn't Vegeta have killed them anyway?

He seemed to spare Bulma and Krillin, he didn't even seem to think about killing them once he got his prize. Perhaps he's just overjoyed because he thinks he has all 7 Dragonballs now?

[JShaggy]

As I said yesterday, funny how Vegeta threatens to kill Bulma yet these two end up together later in the series.I'm surprised that they had him say that he would kill Bulma. At least it's better than the 'going for a swim' line Vegeta said in the original dub.
Also of note how Vegeta didn't harm either Krillin or Bulma after he got his Dragonball. Had this been anyone else, wouldn't Vegeta have killed them anyway?In terms of the evil Vegeta, then yes.
He seemed to spare Bulma and Krillin, he didn't even seem to think about killing them once he got his prize. Perhaps he's just overjoyed because he thinks he has all 7 Dragonballs now?Well, what he was thinking was now that he had all 7 balls, and once the dragon grants his wish for eternal life, he would go and kill all of his enemies (Frieza, Goku, etc.) and anyone else who stands in his way :evil: .

[G1Ravage]

Thank god Zarbon's dead, so I don't have to hear him talk anymore.

[Master Moron]

Sabat did a much better job as Zarbon today than yesterday. Yesterday he just seemed off, today he actually sounded close to the Ocean group Zarbon.

As I said yesterday, funny how Vegeta threatens to kill Bulma yet these two end up together later in the series.

Also of note how Vegeta didn't harm either Krillin or Bulma after he got his Dragonball. Had this been anyone else, wouldn't Vegeta have killed them anyway?

He seemed to spare Bulma and Krillin, he didn't even seem to think about killing them once he got his prize. Perhaps he's just overjoyed because he thinks he has all 7 Dragonballs now?

I seem to remember him saying in the original that now he won't have to bother with trash like them. I think they're basically so worthless to him that he doesn't feel like they're worthy adversaries and so he has no reason to kill them. You know Hitler said in World War II that spending a bullet on every Jew would be too expensive. Maybe Vegeta has a similar attitude that the ki needed to kill Krillen isn't worth wasting on them. Yeah, Vegeta killed the Namekian villagers, but that was AFTER they refused to give them their dragonball. If they actually gave him their dragonball right off the bat he may have spared their lives.

[G1Ravage]

I seem to remember him saying in the original that now he won't have to bother with trash like them. I think they're basically so worthless to him that he doesn't feel like they're worthy adversaries and so he has no reason to kill them. You know Hitler said in World War II that spending a bullet on every Jew would be too expensive. Maybe Vegeta has a similar attitude that the ki needed to kill Krillen isn't worth wasting on them. Yeah, Vegeta killed the Namekian villagers, but that was AFTER they refused to give them their dragonball. If they actually gave him their dragonball right off the bat he may have spared their lives.
From Project Shinonome:

{Vegeta:} Now then....
I don't know how you did it, but you've increased your battle power some since you were on Earth.
But you're still not at a level where you can take me on. What'll you do? You want to hand that ball
over quietly?

{Kuririn:} I think it won't do any good to make promises with you but...If I give this to you, will you
leave here quietly?

{Vegeta:} Promise? I suppose so. Once I get all the Dragon Balls, it won't do me any good to bother
with trash like you.

{Kuririn:} Are you telling the truth?

{Vegeta:} Don't push me. If you want to live so badly, you better hand it over before I change my mind.

*Kuririn hands Vegeta the Dragon Ball*

FUNi didn't translate this scene properly, and instead opted to adapt the lines from the Saban dub.

[A.Magik]

This episode resembles the time Buruma and Kuririn faced General Blue, with Buruma going gaga at the villain. In fact, this trip to Namek is a kinda homage to that Pirate's cave plotline, with Gohan in place of Goku.

A.Magik

[Sketch]

Hmm... strange why was Gohan in the title when he was only in one scene and certainly wasn't hunted.

[Dark Fact]

Thank god Zarbon's dead, so I don't have to hear him talk anymore.
Until the reruns. ;)

This episode resembles the time Buruma and Kuririn faced General Blue, with Buruma going gaga at the villain. In fact, this trip to Namek is a kinda homage to that Pirate's cave plotline, with Gohan in place of Goku.
Except this time, Bulma isn't wearing a bikini. :(

[G1Ravage]

Hmm... strange why was Gohan in the title when he was only in one scene and certainly wasn't hunted.
Because FUNimation has a knack for screwing up episode titles?

[FireStarterLE]

well it kinda made sense to me, i mean since vegeta has all the dragonballs except for the one Gohan has, he's become the hunted

i'm looking forward to see how they did vegeta's "venting" today. Since that quote was kinda cool

*not really a spoiler, but due to the "please place spoiler tags around ep(s) if it has not aired yet" thing

[Master Moron]

Did anyone else notice how it looked like Zarbon's body went back to it's untransformed state after Vegeta killed him?

[Arxane]

Did anyone else notice how it looked like Zarbon's body went back to it's untransformed state after Vegeta killed him?
Not really, I was too busy noticing how Zarbon didn't say anything as he plunged into the water (he called out Vegeta's name in the Saban dub to...you know, show he was still alive...I guess).

[FireStarterLE]

i couldnt tell, Vegeta blasted him to far away for me to see

[CyberCubed]

Did anyone else notice how it looked like Zarbon's body went back to it's untransformed state after Vegeta killed him?

Not that I could see it, but how is that any different than when the Super Saiyans go back to their normal stage after they get beaten?

Zarbon probably couldn't stay at his transformed state anymore with his life rapidly coming to an end.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Zarbon put up a pretty good fight so I'm wondering if Vegeta wasn't that much more powerful then him? wasn't the bag on senzu beans all filled up on Earth :confused: so why are there only a few left? Gokus training is crazy and I wonder where he learned to count so high. good episode but tonights should be better

[Duke]

Zarbon put up a pretty good fight so I'm wondering if Vegeta wasn't that much more powerful then him?He was only about 3,000 more degrees than him, according to the official records.

wasn't the bag on senzu beans all filled up on Earth :confused: so why are there only a few left? Gokus training is crazyYep, he trains at least 20 some hours a day (the Senzu refilling your energy and stomach help that out a lot).

[G1Ravage]

Tonight's episode:

English - "New Enemies from Beyond"

Japanese - "Freeza's Secret Weapon! The Devilish Ginyu Special Corps"

[Ishtar]

I remember that in the Saban version Zarbon's death scene was placed at the beginning of the episode that will air tonite instead of the end of the last ep due to edited footage from previous eps. I actually just looked back at my ol Saban tapes and when Vegeta punches Zarbon he just merely breaks through his armor and not through his actual stomach and Zarbon still acts likes he still got punched viciously and alfter his pleading you see Vegeta ready to blast him away, but it cuts and all of a sudden Zarbon is falling away into the water. That's still nothing compared to the Saban version of Guldo's death.

[Dark Fact]

Pretty soon it'll be breakfast time with the Ginyu force! :)

[G1Ravage]

"Unknown Enemies"?

Where are we getting these incorrect episode titles from???

[Duke]

"Just one of them alone is 5x more powerful than Goku!"

Well, that's BS. Guldo's not that much stronger than Goku was on Earth. Sure, he has strange powers, but still.

[Ultra Mike]

Yeah Guldo was like only 10,000. That's not even as Strong as Goku (well Maxiumum) anyway when he was on earth. King Kai should of said "The leader is over 5 times stronger then even Goku" or something like that.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Vegeta: That was no watch.

Wow.

Vegeta seems to be talking about death a lot. Nice improvement over Saban.

[Animeforever'04]

Vegeta: That was no watch.

Wow.

Vegeta seems to be talking about death a lot. Nice improvement over Saban. heck ya!

[Duke]

I knew it. They messed up "YOU WON'T ESCAPE! MY WRATH!"

For those who want to see Brian Drumwood's version, download the "Anger" vinegette at Toonami: Digital Arsenal.

[Juu-kuchi]

"Where is that damn ball?"

"When I get you you're DEAD!"

Sure "You won't escape my wrath!" was priceless, but this was just as good.

[Ishtar]

That was a nice frame at the end of the episode.

[Arxane]

I knew it. They messed up "YOU WON'T ESCAPE! MY WRATH!"

For those who want to see Brian Drumwood's version, download the "Anger" vinegette at Toonami: Digital Arsenal. I believe you mean Brian Drummond (http://www.crystalacids.com/database/actor/drummond_brian.html), not Drumwood.

And I do agree that Brian beats Sabat when it comes to expressing anger. If Brian's lines were allowed to mention death, they woud've been perfect.

On a side note, I have a soundclip of "You won't escape...MY WRATH!" on my computer. One of my favorites, obviously.

[G1Ravage]

Y'know, Bulma has a legitimate complaint about her new hiding place. At least in the large cave in the mountain, she had enough room to open up a capsule house. How can Kuririn think she'll be safe in such a spot??

Sabat did a good job with the Vegeta scene, but Drummond was just a tad better.

[Tenku]

I knew it. They messed up "YOU WON'T ESCAPE! MY WRATH!"

For those who want to see Brian Drumwood's version, download the "Anger" vinegette at Toonami: Digital Arsenal.
Yeah, I always loved that line. But...hey, the line he said fits too. But not as much as Drumwoods.

And also, Vegeta is a hella lot angrier in this dub. :sweat:

[CyberCubed]

"Where is that damn ball?" got me to laugh out loud.

I do think Sabat does a good job as Vegeta, much more than people give him credit for.

[Tash]

When do we see the beer?

[Ultra Mike]

I think in next Monday's episode since it's the episode where Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin meet the Ginyu force I believe. Which is in the week after the next one.

I think Sabat could of been a bit angrier during Vegeta's wrath, but in a "if he really wanted to strain his voice" angry. Still good though.

[Master Moron]

Not that I could see it, but how is that any different than when the Super Saiyans go back to their normal stage after they get beaten?

Zarbon probably couldn't stay at his transformed state anymore with his life rapidly coming to an end.

Actually, I was thinking that maybe his death was more violent in the manga, does anyone know?

Anyway, in the dub they never explained why Freeza killed his soldier, in the original his line went something like this.

"Now I won't have to depend on cowardly soldiers like you."

Anyway, why didn't Vegeta notice that all the dead bodies were buried?

[Kazuya Prower]

He couldn't care less of the corpses. He was focused on getting the Dragonball.

[PickHut]

Actually, I was thinking that maybe his death was more violent in the manga, does anyone know?It's basically the same: he gets blasted, Krillin and Bulma look on in horror, his body flies back, and then falls into the water in his transformed body.

[FireStarterLE]

ah well Vegeta's quote wasn't as good as the original was but i think he got across the fact that he wants Gohan dead, poor kid it's not his fault Vegeta's a bit dense (or knows what a antique watch looks like for that matter)

And i dont think the Ginyu Force shows up until next Thurs. (fly to Guru, Bulma Adventure, Pwr Up, Arrival)

[G1Ravage]

Actually, I was thinking that maybe his death was more violent in the manga, does anyone know?

Anyway, in the dub they never explained why Freeza killed his soldier, in the original his line went something like this.
In the Saban dub, the soldier seemed to second guess Freeza in his fearful way of talking, and so Freeza blasted him into another dimension "for no reason at all".

[Arxane]

In the Saban dub, the soldier seemed to second guess Freeza in his fearful way of talking, and so Freeza blasted him into another dimension "for no reason at all".
Shockingly, that actually makes more sense. Freiza killing a soldier for second guessing him sounds a bit more...er, "reasonable" than killing him for just doing his job.

[Duke]

Shockingly, that actually makes more sense. Freiza killing a soldier for second guessing him sounds a bit more...er, "reasonable" than killing him for just doing his job.You people say that as if Freeza needs a reason to kill someone.

[HumanoidTyphoon]

Oh god that was hilarious. Bulma complaining about eveything then Krillen says "I have an idea lets leave you here..."

[Kamaria]

Hey, in a later episode, Vegeta says to Freeza that Zarbon

Zarbon blurted out that Freeza could transform.

However, I never heard any such line of dialog from Zarbon. Did I miss something?

[vegetable]

In the Saban dub, the soldier seemed to second guess Freeza in his fearful way of talking, and so Freeza blasted him into another dimension "for no reason at all".

Every time someone was blasted on screen, Saban just HAD to make sure to slip in that "another dimension" line. Usually in places where there was no dialogue to begin with.

And starting next week is 2 of the worst filler episodes in the entire series.

[Master Moron]

Shockingly, that actually makes more sense. Freiza killing a soldier for second guessing him sounds a bit more...er, "reasonable" than killing him for just doing his job.

I'm not really sure Freeza would kill someone just for giving him their assessment of the situation though. Zarbon and Dodoria seemed to give him advice and he didn't kill them for it.

Hey, in a later episode, Vegeta says to Freeza that Zarbon

Zarbon blurted out that Freeza could transform.

However, I never heard any such line of dialog from Zarbon. Did I miss something?

I think it was in the Japanese version.

By the way, what do Zarbon, Dodoria, and Kui mean? Freeza's servants are one of the few puns that I'm not aware of in this show.

[Ishtar]

I'm not really sure Freeza would kill someone just for giving him their assessment of the situation though. Zarbon and Dodoria seemed to give him advice and he didn't kill them for it.



I think it was in the Japanese version.

By the way, what do Zarbon, Dodoria, and Kui mean? Freeza's servants are one of the few puns that I'm not aware of in this show.Kui I believe is Kewi as in the fruit. No clue about Zarbon and Dodoria.

[Duke]

I'm not really sure Freeza would kill someone just for giving him their assessment of the situation though. Zarbon and Dodoria seemed to give him advice and he didn't kill them for it.But Freeza's in a bad mood, and he has about 100,000 (at least) replacements. Zarbon and Dodoria were Freeza's most trusted henchmen (aside from the Ginyu, of course), so they get more chances.

[Hyper Shadow X]

My line got ruined.

[Master Moron]

Hmmm...I got these from a website, I don't know how accrate they are:

Theme - Fruits:
» Appule = Apple
» Blue Berry = Blue Berry
» Dodoria = Chinese Gooseberry
» Kiwi = Kiwi
» Rasberry = Rasberry
» Tuffle = Fruit
» Zarbon = Pomelo


What the hell is a Pomelo?

[Duke]

What the hell is a Pomelo?Type of fruit, though I think it's Pummelo:

http://www.plantithawaii.com/plant_guide/images/pummelo.jpg

It was also used as the dub name for the home island for the Orange Island Crew Leader Drake in Pokémon.