Are black people nicer than white people?

[Style]

I don't mean to make this sound racist,

But, in my experience, Black people are usually nicer to me than white people. (I'm talking in terms of talking to people you don't know.)

Like today, I was walking around school, saying hi to people as they passed. When I say hi to a white girl, she'll say hi and go on her merry way. This was how it always was.

But when I would say hi to a black girl, they would stop, turn, and get into a nice conversation with me. It was really a very pleasant experience. One girl I said hi too once now always says hi to me when I pass her. Compare this to white girls, who barely acknowledge my existence in the first place and will not remember it later.

Now, I previously thought there would be no difference between Whites and Blacks in how nice they were, but I was wrong. Anectdotely speaking, Black people are much nicer!

Anyone else found this to be true?

[Phantasm]

Oh yes!

At leat from my experience...I can't figure out it should be that way though...

[Tenku]

You know...I'm not quite sure, and I'm black (also a girl). I guess it kinda depends.

Here, they are a bit...catty to say the least. Plus, I keep to myself so, I wouldn't know. :shrug:

[Martianinvader]

I haven't noticed much difference between blacks and whites as far as "niceness" goes. Blacks tend to be more touchy, though--many seem to think the world is always against them and that every single decision ever made by a Caucasian has been based on racism.

One thing I HAVE noticed is that Britons and Canadians are nicer than Americans by a WIDE margin....when I talk to people from there online, I'm usually treated a lot better than I am by fellow Yankees.

[Tenku]

One thing I HAVE noticed is that Britons and Canadians are nicer than Americans by a WIDE margin....when I talk to people from there online, I'm usually treated a lot better than I am by fellow Yankees.
...Uh-oh. I'm going to NYC/Philly for Thanksgiving break (parade stuff...) do they take kindly to a southern band? :sweat:

[Style]

I haven't noticed much difference between blacks and whites as far as "niceness" goes. Blacks tend to be more touchy, though--many seem to think the world is always against them and that every single decision ever made by a Caucasian has been based on racism. I'm not so sure about that. That's a popular media image to be sure, but in real life I've not really found that to be the case.

Besides, black people have a right to be upset about those things, given the history of what they've suffered and the inequities that still exist.

[Kurtman]

I don't mean to make this sound racist,

But, in my experience, Black people are usually nicer to me than white people. (I'm talking in terms of talking to people you don't know.)

Like today, I was walking around school, saying hi to people as they passed. When I say hi to a white girl, she'll say hi and go on her merry way. This was how it always was.

But when I would say hi to a black girl, they would stop, turn, and get into a nice conversation with me. It was really a very pleasant experience. One girl I said hi too once now always says hi to me when I pass her. Compare this to white girls, who barely acknowledge my existence in the first place and will not remember it later.

Now, I previously thought there would be no difference between Whites and Blacks in how nice they were, but I was wrong. Anectdotely speaking, Black people are much nicer!

Anyone else found this to be true?
Maybe the white girl was the shy kind of person while the black girl was the social type of person. But I do think there are also social white girls and antisocial black girls in the world.

[Style]

Maybe the white girl was the shy kind of person while the black girl was the social type of person. But I do think there are also social white girls and antisocial black girls in the world. I'm not talking about one shy white girl or one sociable black girl... I'm talking about a general trend after talking to about 10 different people.

It's just something I've noticed today because I was talking to a large, random number of people I didn't previously know. And Black girls were much more sociable and receptive than the white girls I talked to, (or *tried* to talk to as the case may be.)

[Fone Bone]

Black people from the States and Canada are really nice. It has been my experience that black people from Africa (especially women) are kind of harsher because of the culture there (you REALLY have to respect women) but from the States everybody is really friendly.

And Martianinvader I know and knew quite a few black people and none of them were "The Man is holding me down" kind of people. If you talk politics with them they might feel a certain way but none of the folks I knew EVER acted as if any and all of their problems in life were caused by white people. Methinks you've been listening a little too much to either conservative propaganda or reading the Boondocks and believing every single black person is like that. I admit that their opinions may change when I leave the room, but the "Man is out for me" attitudes generally portray blacks as prickly and confrontational to whites which hasn't been the case with the people I 've known. Two of the schools I went to when I was a kid had significant black populations and none of the kids acted like that.

[Delthayre]

It's probably a cultural thing. For the various unpleasant historical reasons that befell them, Blacks constitute a very distinct subculture within the United States, which is linguistically and customarily distinct from the dominant culture.

It could also be a variation of Southern custom spread by the black community.

I'm not an overtly friendly person myself. I all most never greet people I don't know well and find it very annoying when random people or loose acquaintances interrupt my life with and unsolicited uttering of, "hi,", "yo," or worst of all, "what's up?"

I'm also Pennsylvania Dutch on my father's side, and the Pennsylvania Dutch aren't known to be the most outgoingly friendly types. I recall from Conrad Richter's The Aristocrat the tale of the central character's mother, a well-to-do lady from the south coming to Pennsylvania with the same expectations of involved cordiality she was familiar with, but instead being taken aback by the relative 'unfriendliness' of the Pennsylvania Dutch farmers, to whom she had no reason to say, "hello."

[Kury Wagner]

I'm a shy, polite (sometimes flirty) girl; everyone's nice to me (or at least pretends to be). I rarely get along with women, never have. It doesn't matter what race they are, they're usually mean to me. And guys of one race aren't more friendly than another.

Here, they are a bit...catty to say the least.Same here, with all women. Though, I find hispanic chicks to be ruder to me than others. Maybe it's just a coincidence. I don't know.

[zmanjz]

you know, it really depends on the particular person, not the skin color.


Personally, I've always found Anime Nerds as a group to be "good people" as it were.

My advocacy 2 partner last year was black, and she was very outgoing and happy to talk, however a different black female that I worked with at the DA's office never seemed to do anything but grumble and scowl at me.

This year, a white female DA that I've been working with is extremely outgoing (though a little odd).

SO yea, I think that it depends on the person and how they react to your visage Apparently, I'm cuddly and disarming to most people :D (Though I've won every court appearance I've made.)

[Style]

I'm a shy, polite (sometimes flirty) girl; everyone's nice to me (or at least pretends to be). I rarely get along with women, never have. It doesn't matter what race they are, they're usually mean to me. And guys of one race aren't more friendly than another.

Same here, with all women. Though, I find hispanic chicks to be ruder to me than others. Maybe it's just a coincidence. I don't know. Women being rude to other women? That's usually not the impression I get. Ofcourse, as man, I find all women to be mysterious and unfathomable, so...

But, I do kind of feel for you on one thing: How you don't get along with women. You see, I get along with my fellow men okay, but I have a hard time approaching guys to make new friends. But, I have no problems approaching girls to make new female friends. I've always been more comfortable with that.

Ofcourse, convincing a female to be "more than friends" is what I've found problematic, (and have only recently come to the conclusion that that is the wrong approach in the first place. Sadly, that's what's taught for "good, christain boys," and us good christain boys have to figure out for ourselves that it doesn't really work that way, Friends becoming lovers and all that.)

[Stuckey]

I find friendly people to be friendly and unfriendly people to be unfriendly. I haven't noticed any racial difference, though.

[Kury Wagner]

Women being rude to other women? That's usually not the impression I get. Ofcourse, as man, I find all women to be mysterious and unfathomable, so...Seriously, it's true. Many women do NOT like other women. Do you have a sister or close girl friend? Ask her, there's a big possibility that she'll say the same thing. I have four sisters and a few friends who are also chicks, and almost all of them agree (I haven't asked some). We're not all sisters and whatnot like it may appear. I'm not saying that all women are cruel to other girls, it's just the majority is awfully mean. Especially the really girly girls.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

Women being rude to other women? That's usually not the impression I get.
Heh!! Oh, you need to be around your female friends and their girlfriends more often. You'll see.

Ofcourse, convincing a female to be "more than friends" is what I've found problematic.
That's easy for me but my girlfriend just wants to remain friends. I respect that, but I do want to at least french her.

As for the topic at hand. Kinda hard for me to say, really. We have like less than 10 black people in the municipality. Of the ones I know, they're just like everyone else, nice, down to earth, easy to talk to.

[Fone Bone]

Women being rude to other women? That's usually not the impression I get. You just have to get one of them to leave the room.:D

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

You just have to get one of them to leave the room.:D
Don't want to see a cat fight?

[Assembler]

you know to me it doen't matter what race they.all races of people can be mean,nice,polite,rude,and just 100% mean.i'm nice polite gentlemen*I can't believe I said gentlemen :p *







>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know my ABC's and my 123's!

[Fone Bone]

Don't want to see a cat fight?It's probably just me, but I REALLY don't consider two women beating the crap out of each other to be a turn-on.

It's just me, isn't it?:p

[nonamehere]

Depends. Black girls talk more, but black boys... you say hi, they'll start an argument with you most of their time (of course not all, just the kind that wear their shirt as drapes, and their pants down to their knees). To answer the question, it kind of it's true, but if they're the "ganster" kind, then expect some bad grammar, weird clothes, lack of intelligence, and lack of self confidence (they can't do anything without their friends.)

[One Radical Dude]

Not really a good question. I don't really think race has anything to do with attitude. No 'race' is superior than the others. I believe it all depends on the person's background, lifestyle, and the person's surroundings.

[Punisher]

I think both black and white people are equally nice, at least to me they are, but then againt I'm not exactly a social person. I've found out though, through experience that it is not race that affects kindness, but height. Short people I've know have an attitude problem. I'm somewhat medium to tall, and on more than one occasion a short guy(black or white) wants to start a fight with me, and I don't even know them. They punch my arm with all their might, acting all tough and saying "You wanna fight?!"

I just smile and walk off when they do that, because my dog has punched me harder, and we both know I would win in a fight. They're just acting tough.

[Caffeine King]

I don't think somebody's skin color has anything to do with it, their personality does.

Down South after living in a small hick town and another small (less hick-ish town) I found that (most) of the black people down there were much, much more friendly & nice then (most) of the white people.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

@Fone: it's just you!! :D

I agree, though. It's not based on skin colour; it's based on personality.

[Vale]

No, I don't think this is true. People of all races are generally sheep and act according to the local culture.

Although a few stereotypes have developed among employees at my part-time job at a movie theater-restaurant. I'm not sure if they're true or not (I'm not yet a server), but my brother insists that black people don't tip well and get easily agitated if minor mistakes are made. I've noticed I subconsciously treat black families better than white families (by getting everything they need very quickly, being extra-friendly, etc.), because I'm afraid that if anything goes wrong, they'll cry racism...

[90'sCartoonMan]

I must say I find this thread highly insulting.

The title is insulting, but I understand what you're getting at Style, since it's from personal experience. Sadly, it all depends on where you are (what area you live, the fact that you were in school, etc) that can make your perception, and observations like yours won't be universal.

I just hate all these generalizations. I'm not blaming you or anyone else who has their own opinion on this subject as everyone's experiences are different, but there's the whole media thing where black people are angry or paranoid or whatever. It just pisses me off. But that's what I get for watching The War At Home premiere right before I came on.

I also don't like generalizing white people. I mean, what is a "white person"? There are so many different groups and backgrounds, I don't feel like they should be lumped together in the same category.

I find the premise of your question faulty and therefore invalid. Your experience won't be the same everywhere.

Seriously, it's true. Many women do NOT like other women. Do you have a sister or close girl friend? Ask her, there's a big possibility that she'll say the same thing. I have four sisters and a few friends who are also chicks, and almost all of them agree (I haven't asked some). We're not all sisters and whatnot like it may appear. I'm not saying that all women are cruel to other girls, it's just the majority is awfully mean. Especially the really girly girls.
I wish someone started a topic like this, as I've been having problems with women giving each other the cold shoulder at work lately.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

I find the premise of your question faulty and therefore invalid. Your experience won't be the same everywhere.
I agree with that. As I've said, there's not many black people who live in the municipality and of the ones I know, they're like everyone else I know.

I have the same thought as you about the subject title.

[Nightflower]

Women being rude to other women? That's usually not the impression I get.
Ahahahahaha. Hahaha. Haha. Ha.

[I.R Joey]

Wait...wait...wait.

As an African American male I have to interject into this conversation because there are just way to many generalizations going on in this thread. I don't think any of us given, our fairly limited experiances, can answer a question like "Are black people nicer than white people?"

Personally I reject the idea that race plays as critical a part in forming personality as some of you are giving it credit for. For example there are so many factors like upbringing, economic conditions, time of day, even the weather that could have created the scenario Style 92 experianced. Even pulling from the experiance of every Toonzone member we would still see a very limited slice of the spectrum of everyday interracial interaction. And this in no way makes us sufficently qualified to paint with such a wide stroke when talking about literally tens of millions of people all around the Earth. Seriously things even very from country to country. A Masi tribesman would probably have a totally diffrent reaction than me or many other African Americans, to many social situations simply given cultural diffrences. Are we both technically "black"? The answer is yes. Do we have neccicerily have the same upbringing culturally. The answer is an emphatic no...

Additionally I think that all of us, regardless of race, have times when we're nice and times when we're kind of abbrasive. As I mentioned above this could be do to any number of things. A person heading for lunch after skipping breakfast might not be in the mood to have a nice conversation, a person who just got an A+ on a hard math test might be in the mood to talk with anyone.

And on the subject of history. It's a popular sterotype that all black people are bitter about what white people have done historically to blacks. And that this colors much interacial interaction. This may be true for some black people, even many black people, but it's not a universal truth. I am sure that there are many young black people, decades removed from segregation, that don't even think twice about sitting next to a white person on a bus and starting a conversation (unless of course it's Feburary). Joking aside I think we need to put aside the sterotype that black people are universally bitter (I understand that this is a commen sterotype for American Indian's/First Nation people as well).

Oh well just to reiterate we can't just make wide sweaping judgements. About one group of people being inheriantly nicer or more sociable than another.

[Chad Bonin]

No, they like to keep me, as The Man, down. As a white man, I experience racism every day.

Please don't playa hate.

You should see some of the incredibly condensating remarks I get from John Crichton, Jeff Harris, Jon "WB" Gray, and Karl Olson.

(Please tell me someone gets that Comedy Central Presents joke hidden in there)

[Artimus Gigan]

You wanna know somthing? There is genocide going on in Africa...wiping out tribe after tribe and village after village.

Also there was the Puritan Dictatorship that Cromwell installed way back when...that also partook in genocide...

the Spainyards totaly killed the Aztecs...

]The Native Americans even wiped out other tribes, and in some instances engaged in cannibalism.

I dunno you can't exactly play the race card when every single group or demographic today has a history of wiping out another group of people

[I.R Joey]

Artimus Gigan has a point. Pretty much every group of people, at some point, has engaged in rather brutal acts of war/genocide. I think the mistake people make is that they keep dragging them up (perhaps even stuff from 1000 years ago like the crusades) as a justification for fantacism. When what they should be doing is being objective, learning from the past, and trying to solve the problems of the present.

[Chad Bonin]

Wait wait wait, what was this... cat fight?

True Story: Walking on the parking deck at college today, I saw a car that had been keyed to hell. But, like, it was sets of three lines... like claw marks.

... my mind instantly goes to thinking of how viciously awesome a cat fight could have been to do that to a nearby car.

[Fone Bone]

I must say I find this thread highly insulting.

The title is insulting, but I understand what you're getting at Style, since it's from personal experience. Sadly, it all depends on where you are (what area you live, the fact that you were in school, etc) that can make your perception, and observations like yours won't be universal.

I just hate all these generalizations. I'm not blaming you or anyone else who has their own opinion on this subject as everyone's experiences are different, but there's the whole media thing where black people are angry or paranoid or whatever. It just pisses me off. But that's what I get for watching The War At Home premiere right before I came on.

I also don't like generalizing white people. I mean, what is a "white person"? There are so many different groups and backgrounds, I don't feel like they should be lumped together in the same category.

I find the premise of your question faulty and therefore invalid. Your experience won't be the same everywhere.I totally understand this viewpoint. But you have to understand that there are a LOT of white people who don't spend a lot of time with black people and vice-versa. And people oftentimes have general questions about different cultures. A lot of it is ignorance but if people don't ask other people what their experiences are it is a lot more likely they will believe the stereotypes about different races that the media drill into our head. It's true that you can't really ask a person whether one race is nicer than the other. But it is valid to ask people about their experiences to get a better picture of something they don't understand themselves.

I wish someone started a topic like this, as I've been having problems with women giving each other the cold shoulder at work lately.This would definately be more interesting. But I have to ask: what makes a thread about women's personalities more valid than one about white and black people's?

[Outlander00]

Ahahahahaha. Hahaha. Haha. Ha.
heh heh heh... :p

I dont buy "one race is more polite than the other"... I really dont. Because of my background and where I have lived over my life, Ive experienced a broad range when it comes to how people act socially regardless of their "race" and gender. If anything... peoples behavior and how they act socially can be based on three (but not necessarily on these) major factors:



Socio-economic class, which can effect the individuals development in an environmental aspect).



Ones direct upbringing within their home (aka how they were raised or their home life) can overal affect ones social development.



Finally, their overal personality they were born with (whether they are shy or outgoing... etc) can affect how the other two factors will come into play in someones behavior socially.

Yes, there are other factors that affect ones development (trauma of any type to name one), but these are the most common.

[ROBOTRON]

I live in Detroit (I'm black) and haven't really noticed that much of a difference. I have an equal number of black and white friends and both groups are equally friendly.

However, I've noticed that if you go into the so-called upper class areas like Gross Pointe or West Bloomfield, the whites there are very uppity and avoid talking to you.:sweat:

I throw gaming parties at my house every Friday, if you go to the website, you will see that I have several white, black and even 2 arabic friends that attend regularly.

(If your interested...go to my webpage and look at the members section and you will see photos of them).

http://www.freewebs.com/robotron/index.htm

[Chad Bonin]

This would definately be more interesting. But I have to ask: what makes a thread about women's personalities more valid than one about white and black people's?Them wimmens have different biologies.

Actually, this whole debate goes back to Nature VS Nurture. Is one race nicer BY NATURE, or is it completely different based on your raising.

[JohnCrichton]

The answer.... yes.

Green people... don't even get me started. :p

[Artimus Gigan]

Them wimmens have different biologies.

Actually, this whole debate goes back to Nature VS Nurture. Is one race nicer BY NATURE, or is it completely different based on your raising.
Everyone is capable of doing good and bad things, however there really isn't no sure way to determine what group of people are nicer, it's not like you can take a fool-proof poll...

[sun]

you know, it really depends on the particular person, not the skin color.


Personally, I've always found Anime Nerds as a group to be "good people" as it were.

My advocacy 2 partner last year was black, and she was very outgoing and happy to talk, however a different black female that I worked with at the DA's office never seemed to do anything but grumble and scowl at me.

This year, a white female DA that I've been working with is extremely outgoing (though a little odd).

SO yea, I think that it depends on the person and how they react to your visage Apparently, I'm cuddly and disarming to most people :D (Though I've won every court appearance I've made.) Zmanjz's quote is correct..absolutely...But to say one group is "nicer" than another is a mistake. Even to ask the question is incorrect, and I do not want to act mean or rude to the thread starter -Style 92 (http://member.php?u=9692) . That is not the reason for this comment. I do not want to be come off that way...It is not me.
...... If we were to ask the opposite, that "black people are meaner than white people." all blacks I know, have known, and will know, ( and I met and have known over two thousand black people in my career,from all types of backgrounds) would say that is a racist comment. I honestly think the opposite is true...Stuart

Also, after looking at the entire thread, I agree with this statement of I.R Joey, " Oh well just to reiterate we can't just make wide sweaping judgements. About one group of people being inheriantly nicer or more sociable than another."

[James]

The sooner we get away from trying to quantify personality traits by any overall apartheid, the easier we'll all find it to get along together.

Personality is defined from background not from the genepool. There are studies that imply there could be a genetic affectation on personality, but you only have to look at people's past to see where they are in the present.

If you want to look at what makes people "nicer" (a word I detest ;)), look at what social and parental issues govern people. You'll probably find those social and personal factors are the ones which define how people are and to some extent, may misrepresent the idea that one race is nicer than another. I think any background that might pertain to any groups, would have the same general affect on any colour - providing the colour didn't affect the social intergration, if you see what I mean. ><

[Kuja's Light]

A big part of how you act towards others, is your home environment. I was raised rather well, so I turned out alright, I would imagine. Skin color has nothing to do with it, or gender, or age. Those are petty labels of life, when it's the heart and mind that truly matter.

Oh, and just to point out..I find it rather funny that women say they are supposed to be more mature then men, but they'll easily(in most cases) be nasty to each other or get jealous.

Talk about illogical coincidence, hahaha.

[Style]

You know what I find insulting? The insuation that I have done something insulting.

I have insulted no one. All I was doing was asking a sociological question based on an experience I had. While all my black and white friends have been equally nice to me, and I to them, It was the was just a surprise about the trends that occured when dealing with people I didn't know or who didn't know me.

A word about race: Race is a social construct. There are no inherant differences among people of different races. Humanity started in Africa anyway. All human beings have an african heritage. And if you want to define "black" as a person of African heritage, then all people are black.

But, what I was getting at, is that on the social level, are there differences in how the races in america are socialized based on their own subculture? Real research does this all the time. No one bats an eye when a statement is made that white people prefer product A more than black people. So why all this angst? What I was saying is that the 5 white girls I said hi said hi back and just went on their merry way. That's what I'd expect everyone to do, but I was pleasantly surprised when 4 of the 6 black girls I said hi to actually stopped and engaged me in a pleasant conversation. So I wanted to talk about that.

And saying "It's based on the individual person and how they were raised and what kind of day they were having" doesn't help me. That's answering a sociological question at a Psychological level. It's apples and oranges.

And I didn't say anything! I said people were nice! And that the black people I talked to were nicer to me than I'd expect anyone to be! I was complimenting at every step of the way! And I never said the white girls were mean either!

You know, it's horrible when someone does something unfair to someone based on race. I can't stand that. But not acknowledging that there are certain subculturally differences is just ignorant. It's not about "better" or "worse," it's just differences is all.

But you know what? I'm never going to compliment any group of people or any individual ever again. Infact, at this rate I may as well drop all pretenses and get down right insulting, because what's the point anymore? Don't worry, I'll only insult people on a person to person basis, not racially.

[JohnCrichton]

So.......... how 'bout that weather? :anime:

[Kuja's Light]

Now look what most of ya did, ya hurt his feelings!! Ugh...Style, i'm still on your side.

ya know what, soemtimes i wanted toi snap and say forget about helping people, i've been very close to that before..

[Tienshin]

So.......... how 'bout that weather? :anime:

A bit hot and sticky in my parts. :sweat: <--- See? I'm sweating.

[James]

You know what I find insulting? The insuation that I have done something insulting.

I have insulted no one. All I was doing was asking a sociological question based on an experience I had. While all my black and white friends have been equally nice to me, and I to them, It was the was just a surprise about the trends that occured when dealing with people I didn't know or who didn't know me.

A word about race: Race is a social construct. There are no inherant differences among people of different races. Humanity started in Africa anyway. All human beings have an african heritage. And if you want to define "black" as a person of African heritage, then all people are black.

But, what I was getting at, is that on the social level, are there differences in how the races in america are socialized based on their own subculture? Real research does this all the time. No one bats an eye when a statement is made that white people prefer product A more than black people. So why all this angst? What I was saying is that the 5 white girls I said hi said hi back and just went on their merry way. That's what I'd expect everyone to do, but I was pleasantly surprised when 4 of the 6 black girls I said hi to actually stopped and engaged me in a pleasant conversation. So I wanted to talk about that.

And saying "It's based on the individual person and how they were raised and what kind of day they were having" doesn't help me. That's answering a sociological question at a Psychological level. It's apples and oranges.

And I didn't say anything! I said people were nice! And that the black people I talked to were nicer to me than I'd expect anyone to be! I was complimenting at every step of the way! And I never said the white girls were mean either!

You know, it's horrible when someone does something unfair to someone based on race. I can't stand that. But not acknowledging that there are certain subculturally differences is just ignorant. It's not about "better" or "worse," it's just differences is all.

But you know what? I'm never going to compliment any group of people or any individual ever again. Infact, at this rate I may as well drop all pretenses and get down right insulting, because what's the point anymore? Don't worry, I'll only insult people on a person to person basis, not racially.
I don't think you get all angry on this Style.

I certainly don't think your original post was in anyway racially offensive, but it made no real inference to talking about any social construct/issue. So throw in a glib thread title and a purely anecdotal thread start and the skies the limit to what people will infer and say.

I don't think this thread is out of hand and I would say majority here pretty much understand the core issue here so I think it's best to relax and not get too upset about where this thread has gone.

[PowerZord]

I understood Style92 topic, so i'll discuss it.

Here In Puertorico, Yeah I noticed Black skinned people(Spanish: Trigueños/Morenos/Trigueñas/Morenas/Prietos/prietas.) Are kinda of nicer, but there's also some good White people. Here in Puertorico we are 50/50 since we are mixed with Taino background and Spain background as well. But still I notice some Black people are nicer, I dunno why, But I do have seen that some Black people here are nicer.(Altough people say Puertoricans are humble by nature.)

In conclusion, Sometimes Black people are nicer than White people, but most of the time, it's the same. Why? For example: There's a town here in Puertorico called "Loíza" Black race is a Majority on that Town ever since the Slavery age and the Taino race, The black girls there, have this sense of Superioty, In other words: "We're da' Hottest!" Well they are hot, but no sense of bluffing about it.

I Agree with Style 92 staments of blacks sometimes being nicer. altough here in Puertorico, they both are nice

[Style]

I don't think you get all angry on this Style.

I certainly don't think your original post was in anyway racially offensive, but it made no real inference to talking about any social construct/issue. So throw in a glib thread title and a purely anecdotal thread start and the skies the limit to what people will infer and say. Limits to how long a thread title can actually be doesn't allow me to create a thread title that can be much different from "glib" now does it?

I don't think this thread is out of hand and I would say majority here pretty much understand the core issue here so I think it's best to relax and not get too upset about where this thread has gone. Yeah, don't try to pass this off as me over reacting when starting about a half a page down page two everybody started all of the sudden feeling "insulted" by the thread and acting like it was "highly inappropriate."

So why the Hell should I apologize? No damn good reason I can see. I apologize for every damn little thing. No. Not this time. This time, I didn't do a damn thing wrong with my first post, and I wasn't inappropriate to get angry. So don't you tell me that "I don't think you should get all angry"!

[Delthayre]

A bit hot and sticky in my parts. :sweat: <--- See? I'm sweating.
Yeah, and if your avatar is any indication, you're bathed in fire, which is probably contributing.

[Fone Bone]

Limits to how long a thread title can actually be doesn't allow me to create a thread title that can be much different from "glib" now does it?

Yeah, don't try to pass this off as me over reacting when starting about a half a page down page two everybody started all of the sudden feeling "insulted" by the thread and acting like it was "highly inappropriate."

So why the Hell should I apologize? No damn good reason I can see. I apologize for every damn little thing. No. Not this time. This time, I didn't do a damn thing wrong with my first post, and I wasn't inappropriate to get angry. So don't you tell me that "I don't think you should get all angry"!Everybody? I hope you don't mean me. All I said was that I could understand 90's Cartoon Man's viewpoint, not that I agreed with it. Race is a touchy subject and I can understand someone getting upset over the so-called glibness of the title post. What could you have done? Thread titles can't be that long like you said. I don't think asking a question about how different people being brought up in different cultures and how they act is a bad thing since asking questions help us understand each other better. But it's a touchy subject and I CAN understand how someone who doesn't agree with me on that would be upset.

Honestly, I love you and 90 'sCartoonMan so much. You both have recently helped me out in personal situations so I'm reluctant to get involved. But I know you Style and you NEVER EVER are looking to offend someone so I can understand why you'd be upset. But at the same time 90's Cartoon Man wouldn't have posted that if he wasn't upset. He isn't the type of guy to cry racism at every single thing. I think both of you guys need to reread each other's responses and try to understand the other's viewpoints. There usually isn't a right and wrong in misunderstandings, just miscommunications.

[I.R Joey]

Style 92 I didn't mean to imply that you were a racist. I just wanted to point out that we can't make such vast generalizations about race/ethnicity by a such a limited amount of experiances.

[James]

Limits to how long a thread title can actually be doesn't allow me to create a thread title that can be much different from "glib" now does it?
No, but when you are posing a topic which has issues which are undeniably sensitive, you make sure the title is reflective of that sensitivity. "Does colour define how nice you are"? Would be an example. If you wrote an essay on the issue, you would be expected to make any serious topic neutral from get go and then you'd be expected to clarify your intent and tone early on.


Yeah, don't try to pass this off as me over reacting when starting about a half a page down page two everybody started all of the sudden feeling "insulted" by the thread and acting like it was "highly inappropriate."

Cool down. You need to take a serious step back. As I said, a non objective title and then a first post which raises nor confronts the issues you later confirm you were dealing with.

From what I see, the thread was going fine. People were getting to the core of the issue regardless of whether there is a debate as to how it was initially addressed, so again, I think you need to relax.


So why the Hell should I apologize? No damn good reason I can see. I apologize for every damn little thing. No. Not this time. This time, I didn't do a damn thing wrong with my first post, and I wasn't inappropriate to get angry. So don't you tell me that "I don't think you should get all angry"!
It is inappropriate to get angry. It's a message board, you shouldn't be getting angry. It's just a silly old message board. If you are getting angry, you need a break mate.

And no, I don't think you need to apologise for anything in this thread, although if you keep going on like this you are going to offend or irritate someone to the point you'll need to. I think you need to back off and stop getting so antagonistic when in the end, you didn't do in your initial statement what I think in hindsight you would have liked to have done.

So cool down. We know you aren't racist - especially those who enjoy reading your posts here. You've created a topic and didn't really think it would go the way it has and you feel misrepresented. No need for all this nasty vibe. Cool it down mate or you'll end up getting into trouble. I've not seen this side to you before. Style, it's not worth this angst.

[90'sCartoonMan]

You know what I find insulting? The insuation that I have done something insulting. I'm sorry, Style, I didn't mean to use that word. I was actually quoting Spock from Star Trek VI when Kirk says he's human and Spock says that's insulting? Y'know, it kinda bugged me that Spock has a human mother and considers himself a Vulcan. Could be the environment he was raised in.


A word about race: Race is a social construct. There are no inherant differences among people of different races. Humanity started in Africa anyway. All human beings have an african heritage. And if you want to define "black" as a person of African heritage, then all people are black.That's probably what really bothers me. Race is something we did to ourselves. Like I mentioned before, I read this just coming off the War At Home premiere, and in light of Kanye West's comments about Bush, I was just upset that there always have to be lines drawn in the sand. People should be proud of their heritage, not judging each other based on theirs. I know that's not what you were doing.

But, what I was getting at, is that on the social level, are there differences in how the races in america are socialized based on their own subculture? Real research does this all the time. No one bats an eye when a statement is made that white people prefer product A more than black people.You're right, real research like this does go on, but like SJJ said, you didn't really put it in a sociological context. Not that I wanted you to back this up with source material, I'm just saying, there's a difference between discussing this in class and seeing a thread title on a message board that makes a pretty big generalization.

Honestly, I love you and 90 'sCartoonMan so much. You both have recently helped me out in personal situations so I'm reluctant to get involved. But I know you Style and you NEVER EVER are looking to offend someone so I can understand why you'd be upset. But at the same time 90's Cartoon Man wouldn't have posted that if he wasn't upset. He isn't the type of guy to cry racism at every single thing. I think both of you guys need to reread each other's responses and try to understand the other's viewpoints. There usually isn't a right and wrong in misunderstandings, just miscommunications.Thanks for playing the peace keeper Fone, I love you too. And thanks for pointing out that it would be hypocritical of me to want a thread about women that makes generalizations, you're right about that. I wasn't upset at you, Style, I was just upset with society in general. Are we still cool?

[Outlander00]

And saying "It's based on the individual person and how they were raised and what kind of day they were having" doesn't help me. That's answering a sociological question at a Psychological level. It's apples and oranges.
But thats the thing... Sociology includes psychology and certain psychological traits (social interaction, the topic that we are discussing, is included) into the equation to how people and culture develop within a society. And how a person develops and how they develop in a certain environment (not just socio economic... like I said there are other factors as well) are detrimental to how one responds in a social manner and within society as a whole. That psychology also applies to society as a whole as well since culture and a society develops with the premise of individuals interacting within groups of common interest. They are linked. To ask a question like you are without taking that into consideration and basing solely on the race and gender is not very logical.