Aids group pissed at Family Guy

[Master Moron]

Another group is pissed at Family Guy:

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid19925.asp

what else is new...

[Mr.E]

Iam with them, especially after seeing a movie like "KIDS". Aids is nothing to be be made fun of , Family Guy can be very immature to the point that it isn't even funny.

[Jimmy Kustes]

What's new? So AIDS sufferers have something up their ass. Big news.

Now that's tasteless.

[Jester2415]

and the award for over-reacting goes to...

people need to get a sense of humor, people like that are what makes the majority of TV bland and overly politicly correct.

[Mr.E]

and the award for over-reacting goes to...

people need to get a sense of humor, people like that are what makes the majority of TV bland and overly politicly correct.
Iam defeinetly not PC, but somethings you just don't joke about.

[Caffeine King]

and the award for over-reacting goes to...

people need to get a sense of humor, people like that are what makes the majority of TV bland and overly politicly correct.
You wouldn't be saying that if you had AIDS.

I agree about FG going too far (I'm never offended easily) I thought that that joke was in poor taste.

[Strollymonster]

I thought South Park settled this...since it's been twenty years since AIDS was discovered, it's officially funny now.

In poor taste? Sure, any joke can be in poor taste to someone that has personal experience with the subject matter. Didn't change the fact that the joke was still funny to most of the audience.

But, funny is subjective, and everyone has the right to be offended by it. Personally, though, I think they'd do better to spend their time and money doing something more productive than playing PC police, like looking for a cure, perhaps.

[Mr.E]

In poor taste? Sure, any joke can be in poor taste to someone that has personal experience with the subject matter. Didn't change the fact that the joke was still funny to most of the audience.
I disagree, some subjects just should not be made fun of, they're has to be line somewhere.

But, funny is subjective, and everyone has the right to be offended by it. Personally, though, I think they'd do better to spend their time and money doing something more productive than playing PC police, like looking for a cure, perhaps.
They aren't a group of doctors, Iam sure they must spend there money on research for a cure, but in the mean time, they promote the awareness of it.

[Master Moron]

Iam with them, especially after seeing a movie like "KIDS". Aids is nothing to be be made fun of , Family Guy can be very immature to the point that it isn't even funny.

KIDS was a hilarious movie.

Anyway, the thing is, if this was any other STD, there wouldn't be an issue. If the song was "You have syphillis" no one would have a problem with it. Why can you make fun of every other STD but not aids?

[Mr.E]

KIDS was a hilarious movie.

I hope your being sarcastic, if you aren't, then you truly deserve your username.

[Mr.E]

KIDS was a hilarious movie.

Anyway, the thing is, if this was any other STD, there wouldn't be an issue. If the song was "You have syphillis" no one would have a problem with it. Why can you make fun of every other STD but not aids?How do you know they wouldn't have been offended ? And not all STDs are Terminal, like Aids.

[Aquadementia]

The way I see the joke is no matter how much you sugar coat bad news, it's still bad news. By necessity they are going to have to give someone vary bad news.



I think these people flipped a coin to see if they would exploit this and draw attention to themselves by either being outraged or give them a medal for promoting aids awareness.You wouldn't be saying that if you had AIDS.
I don't really see how this passes any kind of judgment or belittles the disease or anyone with it.
It's just mentions it.
The whole song and dance is surreal.

[Master Moron]

I hope your being sarcastic, if you aren't, then you truly deserve your username.

Are you freakin' kidding me? Everyone in my high school quoted the lines from that movie constantly. It was absolutely hilarious. How can you not laugh at someone who calls himself "the virgin surgeon." Oh, there were so many hilarious lines in that movie. I haven't seen it in a while though. I remember there was this one line where Telley was talking about being a girl's first and he goes "They're gonna tell their grand kids about that ****." And then the part where they beat the crap out of that guy with a skateboard and later while they're chilling and drinking beers they casually ask "Do you think we killed that guy?" Oh, and then there was the part where Telley says to Casper "Dude, your mom's hot." and Casper goes "Dude, shut the **** up." Oh, man, I need to see that movie again. It was so freakin' funny.

[Mr.E]

Are you freakin' kidding me? Everyone in my high school quoted the lines from that movie constantly. It was absolutely hilarious. How can you not laugh at someone who calls himself "the virgin surgeon." Oh, there were so many hilarious lines in that movie. I haven't seen it in a while though. I remember there was this one line where Telley was talking about being a girl's first and he goes "They're gonna tell their grand kids about that ****." And then the part where they beat the crap out of that guy with a skateboard and later while they're chilling and drinking beers they casually ask "Do you think we killed that guy?" Oh, and then there was the part where Telley says to Casper "Dude, your mom's hot." and Casper goes "Dude, shut the **** up." Oh, man, I need to see that movie again. It was so freakin' funny.
Oh ,there were funny lines and I laughed, but I don't consider it a funny movie, I took it very seriously.

[Master Moron]

Oh ,there were funny lines and I laughed, but I don't consider it a funny movie, I took it very seriously.

Well, yeah, but there's definitely a lot of dark humor there. Have you seen Bully? That's Larry Clark's follow-up to KIDS. It's even better than KIDS in my opinion.

[Mr.E]

Well, yeah, but there's definitely a lot of dark humor there. Have you seen Bully? That's Larry Clark's follow-up to KIDS. It's even better than KIDS in my opinion.
I never saw it,I guess I'll check it out.

[ClockStomper]

Context matters. Had rhey been singing to African villagers, it would be in poor taste. White guy who's got such good insurance that it can pay for a vaudeville act? Not as much.

[Happy]

I thought that that AIDS segment was funny, Family GUy offends people all the time, I won't treat this group different just becuase it must really suck to have AIDS.

[livingfruitvirus]

Tell them to go put on a robe.

[PowerZord]

You are only defending FG, because most Toonzoners here are Addicted Blindedly by FG.

Dude, Making fun of AIDS is not funny. There are some lines and context that have to be drawn, and that Joke wasn't even funny.

Learn to have Enphaty(or whatever is spelled) for your Public, something you must know if you are going to say something public-wise.

[Fone Bone]

You are only defending FG, because most Toonzoners here are Addicted Blindedly by FG.Ding! Ding! Ding!

Dude, Making fun of AIDS is not funny. There are some lines and context that have to be drawn, and that Joke wasn't even funny. I'm not so sure about that. Cartman always suggesting giving Kyle AIDS on South Park is funny because it shows what a complete and utter bastard he is. But If we were to go by the Family Guy's tasteless and unfunny joke then, yeah, I could definately see that argument having weight.
Learn to have Enphaty(or whatever is spelled) for your Public, something you must know if you are going to say something public-wise.I think oftentimes Family Guy confuses something that is offensive with something that is automatically funny. The bit went on for so long that you knew the reason the writers stuck it in there was because they had run out of stories and jokes. That's not funny, it's pathetic.

[RADRAD]

I thought South Park settled this...since it's been twenty years since AIDS was discovered, it's officially funny now.

My thoughts exactly. AIDS is now funny, guys. Come on. That joke didn't bother me at all. In fact, that "You have AIDS" song gets into my head every once in a while.

[LightShadow1890]

I'm sorry, I didn't see the episode, so don't bash me if I come out as "stupid" to you....

but I only had the lyrics to find out what was making these AIDS groups go nuts. The lyrcis seem harmless to me. I think it's how Peter sings the song that makes it offensive.

I dunno about you guys and what you thought, but I'm thinking one time when a poster said that the disabled found a joke about disabled people funny. I'm sure it must be the same case.

As for me, I have no clue. It seems more like an example of how Peter is so stupid at times (*thinks about one episode where Peter gets plastic surgery*).

And if the AIDS groups have a problem with it, they should've taken it up to Seth McFarlane, not FOX.

[Wounded_Dragon]

Of all the things that you choose to be offended at, you chose the AIDS song? A bit gag that's over and done with very quickly?

[Mr.E]

And if the AIDS groups have a problem with it, they should've taken it up to Seth McFarlane, not FOX.

He dosen't have final say in what gets aired , the network dose.

[Scythemantis]

You are only defending FG, because most Toonzoners here are Addicted Blindedly by FG.

Dude, Making fun of AIDS is not funny. There are some lines and context that have to be drawn, and that Joke wasn't even funny.

Learn to have Enphaty(or whatever is spelled) for your Public, something you must know if you are going to say something public-wise.

Aren't you being pretty insulting yourself trying to generalize everyone and imply that they would be offended if it were on some other show? Don't be a lamewad. I'm not a huge FG fan, and I thought the song was adorable. Like everyone else said, its context was not insulting. It isn't even an AIDS JOKE, for pete's sake. The JOKE is simply that they're giving the worst news possible in the form of a barbershop quartet.

And NO, there is no "line" when it comes to humor, and there never should be. Nothing is too serious to make light of. Not aids, not terrorism, not rape, nothing. All that matters is if the joke is clever. If it's clever, it's funny, no exceptions. Anyone who takes offense is an idiot.

And the poor little word you murdered is "empathy", which has nothing to do with anything. You can feel for someone's dilemma (or suffer it yourself) and find this joke funny all the same.

[Mr.E]

Anyone who takes offense is an idiot.
Including the people who has AIDs ?

[Scythemantis]

Including the people who has AIDs ?

Are you implying that having a disease makes a person excempt from the universal standards of idiocy? My grandmother died of cancer, and she still joked about it. And so do I. If you're terminally ill and spend any amount of your precious life blubbering about what the big, bad cartoon show said (not even about YOU, but about the AFFLICTION) then you earn no respect from me whatsoever.

[The_Dominion]

Until you have AIDS, Mr.E, you have no right to complain. Stop telling us what people with AIDS would say. Guess what? The AIDS organization that is complaining, is most likely run with a bunch of people without AIDS. It seems to me that this joke bothers people without AIDS, more than people with AIDS, because many people are afraid of it and the negative stigma it carries.

[Fone Bone]

Are you implying that having a disease makes a person excempt from the universal standards of idiocy? My grandmother died of cancer, and she still joked about it. And so do I. If you're terminally ill and spend any amount of your precious life blubbering about what the big, bad cartoon show said (not even about YOU, but about the AFFLICTION) then you earn no respect from me whatsoever.But I can't LIVE without your respect! You're too cool!:anime:

Honestly, I found the song pretty offensive simply because it wasn't funny. If I HAD found it funny I would probably defend it. But it seemed to me to be a lame gag put in simply for the sake of offending people. I have to admit I'm a little puzzled why people are defending a gag that is clearly MEANT to be in poor taste when it actually does it's job of offending people. I was offended and I assumed that was the "joke's" primary goal, so should people really be surprised if some of us found it in poor taste?

[Mr.E]

Are you implying that having a disease makes a person excempt from the universal standards of idiocy?No, nobody is but anyone can be understanbly offended by a joke, what is fault of them is if they choose to be depressed over it.

My grandmother died of cancer, and she still joked about it. And so do I.Was it funny at first ? I doubt she was cracking up when she first heard she got cancer.



If you're terminally ill and spend any amount of your precious life blubbering about what the big, bad cartoon show said (not even about YOU, but about the AFFLICTION) Iam not saying dwell on what the show said, you can be offended, but I never said you can't move on.




then you earn no respect from me whatsoever.Wow, I didn't earn the respect from some idiot I don't even know of the net, geez, I'll sure loose sleep tonight.

[Mr.E]

Until you have AIDS, Mr.E, you have no right to complain. Stop telling us what people with AIDS would say. Guess what? The AIDS organization that is complaining, is most likely run with a bunch of people without AIDS. It seems to me that this joke bothers people without AIDS, more than people with AIDS, because many people are afraid of it and the negative stigma it carries.So it isn't possible someone gets offended, its aboslutely inprobable ? I just feel that some things you just can't make fun of.

[Fone Bone]

Until you have AIDS, Mr.E, you have no right to complain. Stop telling us what people with AIDS would say. Guess what? The AIDS organization that is complaining, is most likely run with a bunch of people without AIDS. It seems to me that this joke bothers people without AIDS, more than people with AIDS, because many people are afraid of it and the negative stigma it carries.By the same token isn't it wrong to assume that the people who are complaining AREN'T affected strongly by AIDS? I mean, unless you know them personally I'd think it's not a very good idea to make assumptions about their group either.

[Chad Bonin]

Wow, I so didn't even assume that the character was gay... I'm young and have a goatee...

And South Park proved it, the expiration on AIDS being unfunny has passed.

[Mr.E]

And NO, there is no "line" when it comes to humor, and there never should be. Nothing is too serious to make light of. Not aids, not terrorism, not rape, nothing. All that matters is if the joke is clever. If it's clever, it's funny, no exceptions. Anyone who takes offense is an idiot.
Okay there isn't a "line", but there is a time and place.

[Captain Harlock]

The man is also depicted as young and sporting a goatee, possibly subtly suggesting that he is gay.

Yeah, let's just stack on phantom charges to make the song seem like its worse!

Anyhow, I don't see any problem with it. I don't have a problem with comedy that touches on things that are taboo. I mean, people have said it countless times. There's a certain grace period of time when something horrible happens before it can be funny. AIDS has been discovered for a while, and now it's just part of society. Including facets where it has come to be a staple in comedy. The fact of the matter remains - if you're offended, just don't watch it. It's a choice that isn't exercised all that much.

[William C. Maune]

At least at this point pretty much every group out there could be mad at Family Guy for something. Similar to South Park, Family Guy is an equal-opportunity offender.

[Fone Bone]

At least at this point pretty much every group out there could be mad at Family Guy for something. Similar to South Park, Family Guy is an equal-opportunity offender.But South Park usually has a point behind their offensive gags. Most of Family Guy's offensive jokes are either old stereotypes or offensive for the sake of being offensive. There is usually a message behind South Park's humor.

[William C. Maune]

But South Park usually has a point behind their offensive gags. Most of Family Guy's offensive jokes are either old stereotypes or offensive for the sake of being offensive. There is usually a message behind South Park's humor.

That's very true actually. One of the things I like about South Park. I guess my point was more that, for better or worse, Family Guy doesn't have it out for AIDS in particular. Instead, they do bits on pretty much anything that could be considered offensive, including some bits that would that'd probably make people gasp more than the AIDS thing.

[Demonic Raven]

I thought the Team America AIDS song was funnier, personally.

I'll even say the FG AIDS song was a little bit tasteless and not all that funny, but that's as far as I'll put against it. Making fun of AIDS can be a funny thing (like the aforementioned example).

[SirLemming]

While I was very offended by the unabashedly cruel "Tsunami Song" (the one that Hot 97 got in trouble for) and would be similarly offended by any current jokes about Hurricane Katrina (it really is just "too soon" to be anything but cruel), I wasn't offended by the AIDS song. I found it to be somewhat poorly executed, but FOX is right that the point of the gag was not the mere shock value of singing about AIDS, but showcasing Peter's poor judgment.

AIDS is still a very real problem that affects many people, but so are crime and poverty and stuff. I think these things are just too broad, generic, and widespread, and too much a part of our culture, to be off-limits for comedy. As messed up as that is.

A barbershop quartet singing blithely about AIDS is about as funny as a song about breast cancer or leukemia Be careful what you wish for...

It is inexcusable for Fox to air a program that stigmatizes AIDS and less than subtly reinforces homophobia. I'm convinced that NOBODY assumed the guy was gay except for these people who are complaining about it. Unless by "less than subtly" they actually do mean "less" as in "not at all".

David Munar, associate director of the AIDS Foundation of Chicago, says that while Family Guy may have been attempting to use dark humor to show the inappropriateness of delivering bad news through a song-and-dance number, that message might have been lost due to the subject matter of the song. “The risk, of course, is that some viewers might not get the joke and believe that AIDS has become a casual, laughing matter,” he says. So basically, the risk is that really stupid people will continue to be stupid.

[Tienshin]

Family Guy made a joke that offended someone?!? :eek:

The irony here is that the same people who are pissed probably tune in and laugh their asses off at every joke that makes fun of some other group, ethnicity, whatever. Family Guy deals in cringe humor and eventually everyone gets their turn in the cross hairs. I suppose the joke was in bad taste...but a bad joke is still joke.

Damnit. I am smiling thinking about the song now. How can anyone take something so blantantly over the top seriously.

David Munar, associate director of the AIDS Foundation of Chicago, says that while Family Guy may have been attempting to use dark humor to show the inappropriateness of delivering bad news through a song-and-dance number, that message might have been lost due to the subject matter of the song. “The risk, of course, is that some viewers might not get the joke and believe that AIDS has become a casual, laughing matter,” he says.

Whoa whoa whoa doc, don't you go trying to bring any level of thought into the mix. We've got angry people with a full blown victim complex going on, and they're about to break!!!

And Jimmy Kustes...that was a hilarious and deliciously wrong post.

edit:



As someone who has a goatee, I am offended by the AIDS groups who have stated this. No, I am not homophobic in any regard, but because I have a goatee, that implies that I belong to a certain lifestyle? Thanks for stereotyping me.

As a fellow wearer of the goatee, I also must register my indignation over the internet with this heinous stereotyping.

[Jp7010]

The man is also depicted as young and sporting a goatee, possibly subtly suggesting that he is gay.
I am sure that's what the writers had in mind. "Well, we have our song, but who should the news be delivered to?", "Well, he has AIDS, so we should try and make him look gay.", "Yeah... hey, you know what gay people have? a goatee!", "Hey, yeah, you're right! Mike down in accounting DOES have a goatee!", "Alright, so our AIDS patient will have a goatee, because people with goatees are GAY."

As someone who has a goatee, I am offended by the AIDS groups who have stated this. No, I am not homophobic in any regard, but because I have a goatee, that implies that I belong to a certain lifestyle? Thanks for stereotyping me.

[Chad Bonin]

I say all of us straight (or even gay) goatee wearers start e-mailing them.

"Goatee group pissed at Aids group"

[The_Dominion]

While I was very offended by the unabashedly cruel "Tsunami Song" (the one that Hot 97 got in trouble for) and would be similarly offended by any current jokes about Hurricane Katrina (it really is just "too soon" to be anything but cruel)
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[Master Moron]

Wow, I so didn't even assume that the character was gay... I'm young and have a goatee...


Whoa...now that I think about it, what are those guys in your avatar doing?

As someone who has a goatee, I am offended by the AIDS groups who have stated this. No, I am not homophobic in any regard, but because I have a goatee, that implies that I belong to a certain lifestyle? Thanks for stereotyping me.

Actually, it also looks like they're suggesting he's gay because he's young. Cause you know all the young people today think it's cool to be gay.

[Chad Bonin]

... getting Ice Cream.

[Aquadementia]

Seeing how the lead-in was about how good Peter is at breaking bad news to people and the song was the illustration of that,
there is reason there as well as rhyme.


And I don't think it matters how long a time has gone by before you can use a subject in a joke. It's possible to make a joke about the hurricane today already. It depends on what's being said.

It's not so much the subject matter that's a problem, but weather or not the joke is made at the expense of individual pain and suffering. If I felt that were the case then I would call into question how acceptable the bit was.

I think if anyone watches the show and walks away thinking the message is people with terminal illness should be informed of the condition by way of barbershop quartet, they are just straining credulity.

[KojiroTakenashi]

Oh God, a month later and that Katamari joke would have been LOADS funnier. I feel bad for chuckling about it.

[Tienshin]

... getting Ice Cream.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :)

[Viceroy]

Any word on mentally-handicapped groups being offended by "Petarded"? I figured they'd go ballistic over the women's restroom scene ("Mentally disabled are polite, law-abiding citizens and don't do awful things, then claim 'retarded' and get away with it!").

[livingfruitvirus]

I'm not so sure about that. Cartman always suggesting giving Kyle AIDS on South Park is funny because it shows what a complete and utter bastard he is. But If we were to go by the Family Guy's tasteless and unfunny joke then, yeah, I could definately see that argument having weight.
That's a lame excuse. You can use the same reasoning to explain what an idiot Peter is because he doesn't know how to break bad news, which was what introduced that cutaway.

[PowerZord]

I thought the Team America AIDS song was funnier, personally.

I'll even say the FG AIDS song was a little bit tasteless and not all that funny, but that's as far as I'll put against it. Making fun of AIDS can be a funny thing (like the aforementioned example).

So team America did as well? umm what's the diference between the FG one and the Team america one? (I haven't seen the dvd yet)

[Mr.E]

Okay ,truth time, I saw the segment and I laughed ( I do realize though that I was wrong now), I do understand that humor can poke fun of everything but I still have objections for the following reasons:

1. The Joke was immature and stupid, if your going to poke fun of such a serious subject, at least be mature and smart about it , but then again, its Family Guy.

2. Its primetime network television, South Park can get away with something like this because its cable and its on at 10:00 pm. And I think thats why this group is mostly pissed off, not just the fact that it is offensive.

[HellCat]

I do agree sometimes Family Guy goes to far. Stuff like the guy with a fetish for brain tumours comes across as the writers only making jokes about it because they know it's socially taboo. It kinda takes away some enjoyment as I think everyone feels a little dirty if they laugh at something like that.

Oh, and PowerZord- get off Family Guy's case. I'm sick of the fact that you take any chance you get to take a swing at the show and it's fans with some negative comment. No one here is "Addicted Blindedly" by the show. Acting like people are wrong just because they have a different opinion to you is really immature. Let people enjoy the show in piece, rather than being a jerk. Would you like it if every time a thread popped up about a show you liked, I or someone else went out of our way to attack it?

[BrickTamland]

What really makes me mad is when people claim just because Family Guy has become popular it had "sold out" or it isn't funny anymore. That is just stupid, if the show wasn't popular, it wouldn't be on the air for you to watch in the first place.

[Juu-kuchi]

Oh, you must not know about http://www.ytmnd.com
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To be honest I didn't find the joke funny. Not because it offended people with AIDs but because it tried too hard to be funny. Maybe the way they wrote and performed it just did not really strike a good chord. Maybe that's why they didn't take the joke well. Because it wasn't funny.

'sides, they should have expected it from Family Guy. I mean they don't really play favorites to various organizations, ethnicities, and the like so they should've expected FG to eventually make fun of them. I mean even in Family Guy there was also this passage from an episode (I think it was "If I'm dyin' I'm Lyin'") about a terminally ill kid on Hollywood Squares, that seemed to show it was possible for people to be rather wry and unhindered by the fact of having an illness.

Host: For the win, is there anything lower than absolute zero?
Kid: My white blood cell count?

Everybody laughs and the kid highfives Whoopi Goldberg.

[Mr.E]

What really makes me mad is when people claim just because Family Guy has become popular it had "sold out" or it isn't funny anymore. That is just stupid, if the show wasn't popular, it wouldn't be on the air for you to watch in the first place.

You have to amdit, this season has been very mediocre.

[Yash]

What offended me about the song where they made fun of the hurricane was that they actually insulted the people who were affected by it.

Lighten up. In times of despair, everyone needs something to laugh at. They were making fun of AIDS, not people who have AIDS, there's a difference.

[PowerZord]

I do agree sometimes Family Guy goes to far. Stuff like the guy with a fetish for brain tumours comes across as the writers only making jokes about it because they know it's socially taboo. It kinda takes away some enjoyment as I think everyone feels a little dirty if they laugh at something like that.

Oh, and PowerZord- get off Family Guy's case. I'm sick of the fact that you take any chance you get to take a swing at the show and it's fans with some negative comment. No one here is "Addicted Blindedly" by the show. Acting like people are wrong just because they have a different opinion to you is really immature. Let people enjoy the show in piece, rather than being a jerk. Would you like it if every time a thread popped up about a show you liked, I or someone else went out of our way to attack it?


I'm not attacking FG since I watch it, but it gets mad that People defend Offensive remarks just because you like the show.

I'm not being a Jerk, I'm just stating my point of view, there's some stuff That you gotta be careful when to joke about because otherwise people may find offensive. After all everyone gets offended at diferent things.

[Fone Bone]

That's a lame excuse. You can use the same reasoning to explain what an idiot Peter is because he doesn't know how to break bad news, which was what introduced that cutaway.I'm not arguing that the South Park example is in good taste. I'm arguing why it is funny and Family Guy's example is not. The more evil Cartman is, the funnier he is. Just having Peter sing a song about AIDS that is offensive doesn't automatically make it funny which is something I wish the writers would remember.

I like Family Guy well enough, but I can definately see how people can get worked up about some of it's tasteless jokes.

[Scythemantis]

Wow, I didn't earn the respect from some idiot I don't even know of the net, geez, I'll sure loose sleep tonight.

Um, buddy, THOSE ARE MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY...is it supposed to be a comeback? Anyone who would care wether or not I lacked respect for them over the internet would be an even bigger idiot. I sure as hell don't value what internet strangers think about me, so why on earth would I expect anyone to care about what I think? I don't, and I didn't think I said anything to imply otherwise.

And, again, I never even thought the song was a joke against AIDs victims, and I still don't see how it can possibly be taken that way. How can it be offensive to PEOPLE to make light of a DISEASE? What about it is hurtful to the victims themselves? Guns, car accidents, fire and all sorts of deadlier things don't seem to be touchy subjects at all on TV.

[Captain Zechs]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots. I mean come on there are only a couple ways you can get Aids and most of them are ways YOU CAN CONTROL. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for anyone with Aids, unless it was out of their control. So eyah the song was halarious, and I loved the episode. So yeah there is m,y stand on this whole thing...

Also as for the idiot thing, same for sympathy, you only get my sympathy if you couldn't control it.

[Fone Bone]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots. I mean come on there are only a couple ways you can get Aids and most of them are ways YOU CAN CONTROL. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for anyone with Aids, unless it was out of their control. So eyah the song was halarious, and I loved the episode. So yeah there is m,y stand on this whole thing...

Also as for the idiot thing, same for sympathy, you only get my sympathy if you couldn't control it.That's really not very nice.:sad: I knew an old lady who had AIDS and she was very nice to me. I don't think compassion should be dictated on whether or not a person could have prevented it. We all make mistakes and I'd like to think that if I were in a jam that bad that people would still stand by me.

[SirLemming]

That's really not very nice.:sad: I knew an old lady who had AIDS and she was very nice to me. I don't think compassion should be dictated on whether or not a person could have prevented it. We all make mistakes and I'd like to think that if I were in a jam that bad that people would still stand by me.I second that. That was freaking messed up, man. We all make mistakes.

What offended me about the song where they made fun of the hurricane was that they actually insulted the people who were affected by it.The hurricane or the tsunami? I don't know any hurricane song and I'd really prefer not to listen to one if it exists because I know I'll just be upset by it (I can't check that YTMND link at the moment either).

But I do know the Tsunami Song was just awful. Instead of just making a joke about the situation and breaking taboos and stuff, the lyrics really just viciously mocked the dead and dying. Stuff like "You're crying for your mommy, well I just saw her float by with a tree through her head" (that's no exaggeration BTW). And then some racial slurs added an even more uncomfortable, unnecessary twist to it...

The Family Guy gag was nothing like that, though. Completely different context and focus and stuff.

[Stewie]

The indignation of the activist group in question is surpassed by the indignation of the people that are defending Family Guy in this thread. Which is surpassed by the indignation of the people that are angry at the people defending Family Guy.

But why all the contempt for AIDS victims (and those that are trying to help them) in this thread? Does their complaining really irk us so much that we must complain about it?

[SilverKnight]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots.I take it then that you believe anyone who engages in sexual intercourse before they have been properly tested for STDs is an idiot? How so? What are the specific countermeasures you think such people should take before they have sex with another person? Be thorough and specific, please. An opinion such as yours deems further study, because obviously you've given this topic a great deal of thought before you came to the conclusion. After all, only an idiot would go shoothing their mouth off on a topic they know nothing about in an attempt to sound more intelligent they really are...

Oh wait.

Fancy that.

Tip: Think before you speak. Thank you.

[Drachentöter]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots. I mean come on there are only a couple ways you can get Aids and most of them are ways YOU CAN CONTROL. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for anyone with Aids, unless it was out of their control. So eyah the song was halarious, and I loved the episode. So yeah there is m,y stand on this whole thing...

Also as for the idiot thing, same for sympathy, you only get my sympathy if you couldn't control it.
Yeah, you really have an ignorant perception of people with AIDS. There are two ways of getting HIV/AIDS that you can control: sex and sharing needles. Many people who contract it through sex don't even suspect it until much later because they only have/had ONE partner who didn't know or didn't tell them. There have been people infected when receiving blood in hosptials that wasn't screened for the virus. The virus can be transferred to babies from breast milk and I'm not sure if it's possible to be born with it.

Even if they were irresponsible about it, the disease is punishment enough. Who are you to say "You screwed up. You deserve to be screwed. Stop your whining." You can't pass judgment on a group of diseased people simply because their representatives attacked your precious TV show.

THAT said...

I agree that Family Guy has all the right to make this joke. I laughed at it. I wasn't laughing at the fact that the people had AIDS. I was laughing at Peter's lack of tact. It's not like Family Guy would ever have an episode where one of the characters actually contracted AIDS and suffered the consequences. That's not funny. People need to realize that you don't need to be uber-politcally correct to be sympathetic and compassionate.

Did these people pounce on Team America: World Police at all? I would think their AIDS joke would have been A LOT more offensive.

[Fone Bone]

I take it then that you believe anyone who engages in sexual intercourse before they have been properly tested for STDs is an idiot? How so? What are the specific countermeasures you think such people should take before they have sex with another person? Be thorough and specific, please. An opinion such as yours deems further study, because obviously you've given this topic a great deal of thought before you came to the conclusion. After all, only an idiot would go shoothing their mouth off on a topic they know nothing about in an attempt to sound more intelligent they really are...

Oh wait.

Fancy that.

Tip: Think before you speak. Thank you.It's very difficult. I found Captain Zechs' comment ten times more offensive than I did the Family Guy joke. It upset me greatly when I read it, but I tried my darndest not to yell at him for it. It was hard. I appreciate you and others saying how bad it was because there was no way I could have verbalized that right because I was so upset.

[Scythemantis]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots. I mean come on there are only a couple ways you can get Aids and most of them are ways YOU CAN CONTROL. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for anyone with Aids, unless it was out of their control. So eyah the song was halarious, and I loved the episode. So yeah there is m,y stand on this whole thing...

I hate to break it to you, but MOST people can't be blamed for it. The only gaurunteed "control" is an entire life of celibacy and never going anywhere near a hypodermic (it's not just about drugs, you know. If just one of a hospital's hundreds of needles accidentally goes unsterilized...), and even that's not for certain. AIDS is not a matter of "sleeping around" or being "irresponsible" and not using "protection". You could contract from your first and only relationship with someone who contracted it from theirs. People get married, have children, and THEN find out they're infected. You can't expect people to go in for a blood test every other month. I can't even afford one routine check-up, and I don't know many people who ever even think to get one.


But wow, just wow. I can't believe you even have such an insane outlook. Your above statements are nazi-level ignorance, and I happen to DESPISE when people toss around overblown words like "nazi" and "bigot" on the internet... this is the first time I've ever encountered something online that I felt truly warranted such a comparison. Congrats.

[Killtacular]

People sure get uppity when they create and believe an incorrect context for a scene from TV or film. Like most of this thread for example.

[livingfruitvirus]

“A barbershop quartet singing blithely about AIDS is about as funny as a song about breast cancer or leukemia, especially to the people living with the disease,”
That sounds hillarious. A song about the husband saying his wife looks beautiful with that one paper filled bra cup, and meanwhile he knows she looks hideous and hides it.

[The Landstander]

Please. I find it funny because people with Aids are such idiots.Jeez man.

This thread degraded into sucking.