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mikestorm
08-28-2005, 10:06 AM
And by that I mean The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion due out in November of this year on XBox 360 and PC.

I played the hell out of Morrowind and Tribunal (one of the two expansion sets) maxing out almost all of my stats and completing about 97% of the sidequests. That equates to literally hundreds of hours of gametime.

What I've seen as far as graphics is absolutely stunning, and the few gripes I had with ESIII seem to be addressed with Oblivion (better handling of the Journal).

Also, one of the top three requirements when selecting the parts to build my current rig was its ability to play Oblivion.

Sigma
08-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Obilivion is the first game I will grab with my 360 and alot of people plan to do the same. I don't think PD0 or PGR3 will be the Xbox360's killer launch game, it will be Obilivion.

mikestorm
08-28-2005, 12:17 PM
Agreed. Strange that the first XBox killer app will be a RPG.

Sigma
08-28-2005, 12:38 PM
Morrowind took awhile to catch on too, but it's a fairly popular game among hardcore and casual gamers alike, but with the graphics engine behind Obilivion and all the other tweaks I do believe it can rise above the rest of the 360 launch titles which won't be an easy task with games like PGR3, Kameo, and DOA4 all hitting the console at once.

Zach
08-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Yes, it's the only reason to even own a 360.

Captain Harlock
08-28-2005, 06:18 PM
Yes, but I'm not getting the 360 version. I played Morrowind for a loooooooonnng time, so getting lost in another world is going to be fun.

Shnay
08-28-2005, 06:33 PM
Oh my, yes. Morrowind was one of my favorite gaming experiences, if not my top favorite. Oblivion is looking great, and I'm eagerly anticipating diving into the world once again and exploring at my own pace.

The Radiant AI sounds great, though I doubt it will live up to what they're billing it as. The game looks gorgeous and the game world may be as much as twice the size of Morrowind's. There are fewer quests in Oblivion, but they're supposed to be much more interesting than the simplistic quests found in Morrowind. These improvements should make for an excellent game that I'll spend a lot of time with. I do have some concerns, though...

They've said that the combat has been tweaked, which would be great, but early reports say it's pretty much the same. The combat was never a strength of Morrowind, but it wasn't the deal-breaker for me that it was for others. Still, if they've done little to improve it after getting so much feedback on it from the fan community, I'll be disappointed. Also, some people that have seen the game say the animations are still really choppy, which is a shame. Hopefully that will change as the game gets further in development.

As for gameplay changes, some of the more die hard fans are complaining that the game has been "dumbed down." I imagine that the fans are overreacting, but I am a little worried that the game will become too streamlined in order to appeal to a wider market. Stuff like the compass and the ability to teleport around has raised a few eyebrows, but the developers keep saying this won't be that big of a deal. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Homesick_Alien
08-28-2005, 07:21 PM
Oblivions one of the 7 launch games im getting. Im a Bethesda whore anyways, so i woulda bought the 360 just for that.

-Homesick

Zero Signal
08-28-2005, 09:57 PM
This was the big game that sold me on the 360. Morrowind is still my favoite Xbox game, and I'm going into this one with incredibly high hopes. Every screenshot I've seen so far had been amazing, and if it looks even half that good I'll be happy.

Does anybody know how big this one is supposed to be? I played the last game for at least 200 hours, so I'm hoping this one will be big enough to top that. Can't wait.

Shnay
08-28-2005, 10:08 PM
Does anybody know how big this one is supposed to be? I played the last game for at least 200 hours, so I'm hoping this one will be big enough to top that. Can't wait.The game world in Oblivion is said to be the equivalent of 16 square miles. I've heard Morrowind's game world estimated to be between 8 and 10 square miles. There will be six factions in the game that you can join, 200 dungeons to explore, and around 1,000 NPCs to interact with. I think that's all we know at this point in terms of the scope of the game.

MattThomasM2B
08-29-2005, 10:59 PM
Not if they don't find a way to make the game not as mind numbing as Morrowind.

mikestorm
08-30-2005, 02:32 PM
Not if they don't find a way to make the game not as mind numbing as Morrowind. Wow, a triple negative...unraveling it reveals you ARE looking forward to Oblivion. :p

The Elder Scrolls series isn't for everyone. Some people dislike the open-endedness of Morrowind, preferring to be locked into the main quest akin to bowling with gutter guards.

You know the games; the ones were you can't go back the way you came and if you do decide to delay and smell the roses every single NPC will switch to a common dialogue telling you to "What are you still doing here? Hurry to point x before it's too late!"

The trade off to open endedness is the game is so unwieldly you sometimes forget how and where to advance the plot when you want to, or you feel like you're not advancing anything and lose you interest in the game.

MattThomasM2B
08-30-2005, 04:46 PM
Wow, a triple negative...unraveling it reveals you ARE looking forward to Oblivion. :pNo.

I will not buy Oblivion if the developers do not find a way to make it not as boring as Morrowind.

Or simply put, Morrowind was boring. The entirety of my experience was stepping off the boat, going into that dungeon across the bridge, getting sent to the city, joining a guild and wondering if there was a point to any of it all.

Being an open ended game isn't a problem. GTA is very open ended.

Dirtbag
08-30-2005, 05:12 PM
No.

I will not buy Oblivion if the developers do not find a way to make it not as boring as Morrowind.

Or simply put, Morrowind was boring. The entirety of my experience was stepping off the boat, going into that dungeon across the bridge, getting sent to the city, joining a guild and wondering if there was a point to any of it all.

Being an open ended game isn't a problem. GTA is very open ended.
Concur. Morrowind was too open-ended for my taste. It also seems like one of those games where if you kill a certain NPC, you've screwed yourself for the entire game. I still haven't really gotten far enough into it to tell if that's true however. I've just recently gotten into Fable, which sorta comes across as Morrowind-lite. It Oblivion can reach a happy medium between those two I'll probably pick it up.

mikestorm
08-30-2005, 05:38 PM
No.

I will not buy Oblivion if the developers do not find a way to make it not as boring as Morrowind.
Does that mean you're trying to turn it into a quadruple negative?

Or simply put, Morrowind was boring.
Well, that is a matter of opinion. Again, it goes back to my statement that The Elder Scrolls series isn't for everyone. As to someone's comment that the game was too open-ended, that's not the first time I've heard that about this game. Personally, that's what I like most about TES. In fact, I would rather they keep it as open-ended as it is (and risk disenfranchising a few players), as opposed to changing the gameplay to make it more like a mainstream RPG where the main quest bites you in the butt as soon as you get past the first FMV.

MattThomasM2B
08-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Does that mean you're trying to turn it into a quadruple negative?Just that you either don't know when to separate subjects and negatives or are just being stupid on purpose. Anybody who actually tried to understand instead of being cute got it. Sorry you won't.

Well, that is a matter of opinion.Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Again, it goes back to my statement that The Elder Scrolls series isn't for everyone. As to someone's comment that the game was too open-ended, that's not the first time I've heard that about this game. Personally, that's what I like most about TES. In fact, I would rather they keep it as open-ended as it is (and risk disenfranchising a few players), as opposed to changing the gameplay to make it more like a mainstream RPG where the main quest bites you in the butt as soon as you get past the first FMV.
Or a game that actually gives you a goal or a reason to play...

mikestorm
08-30-2005, 06:15 PM
Just that you either don't know when to separate subjects and negatives or are just being stupid on purpose. Anybody who actually tried to understand instead of being cute got it. Sorry you won't.

Not if they don't find a way to make the game not as mind numbing as Morrowind. My apologies, I'll try much harder to understand your terrible grammar going forward. And since we're on the subject of grammar, let's go over exactly what an opinion is, and what a statement is:

Morrowind was boring. Statement
I thought Morrowind was boring. Opinion

Do you see the difference, because I don't think that you do.

For the record, my comment about the triple negative was meant in fun, as illustrated by the :p after the sentence, however you apparently got touchy over it nonetheless. No offense was meant.

MattThomasM2B
08-30-2005, 06:29 PM
Wow, this is stupid. I'm sorry that my saying the game stinks offends you so much that you have to try to point out mistakes in my words that aren't there. That, and splitting hairs over what I say. If all you wanted to hear was "Oh my god I love Morrowind!" then you should've said it when you started this thread.

I will not buy Oblivion(As in, I will not buy Oblivion) if the developers don't make(As in the developers failing to do an action) the game not as boring as Morrowind.(As in, making a more entertaining game than Morrowind). Just because I could've typed it better doesn't mean that what I typed wasn't understandable. You're making a mountain out of a molehill and for what? So you can have some cute one liner to spout off at the big ol meanie that that said something bad about your game?

Yeah, I guess I couldn't expect you to just argue back with your opinion (which apparently I have to point out in big bold letters now for it to be such). It's much easier to side track and take pot shots instead of staying on the subject that matters.

I'm sure you're already halfway into writing some other remark or already putting a magnifying glass to this post. Go ahead. If having the last word means that Bethseda will give you a loyalty check then who am I to get in the way? I'd rather think about and play games that are fun. Kthx.

EDIT: Oh and by the way:

I'd rather think about and play games that are fun.^ My opinion. :)