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Season 9 of Stargate SG-1 is here, and it's a doozy! Daniel Jackson, Samantha Carter, and Teal'c will have to deal with the rise of the new Jaffa nation free from Gao'uld control as well as new team member Cameron Mitchell and new Brigideer General Hank Landry. And as if that wasn't enough, a group of evil Ancients known as the Orii have appeared to destroy all life!
Jack O'Neill barely got his feet wet as General before he's promoted again. In his place, a new General arrives, along with a new SG-1 member. Unfortunately, things don't start out very well as Vala returns with some surprising news that may just bring an end to the entire galaxy! Where's Carter when you really need her, anyway?
Catch the new season every Friday at 8PM EST on Sci-Fi Channel! If you miss it, it will encore at 10PM EST the same night.
ManicWebb
07-15-2005, 09:17 PM
It begins again.
I can tell Cameron is going to be a lot of fun this season. He's just so... childlike.
Wounded_Dragon
07-15-2005, 09:53 PM
I knew it was coming...and I still wanted to punch someone/something when the 10 second intro was all we got.
ManicWebb
07-15-2005, 10:06 PM
I knew it was coming...and I still wanted to punch someone/something when the 10 second intro was all we got.
I'm planning to ride a bomb over SciFi's main office, Dr. Strangelove-style. You hear about the 10-second opening, but it doesn't actually hit you until you actually see it. Good lord, that was frustrating.
Paul_Cousins
07-15-2005, 10:16 PM
I'm planning to ride a bomb over SciFi's main office, Dr. Strangelove-style. You hear about the 10-second opening, but it doesn't actually hit you until you actually see it. Good lord, that was frustrating.Look at it this way, it's more time for the actual series. :cool:
Swordfish_II
07-15-2005, 11:02 PM
I'm planning to ride a bomb over SciFi's main office, Dr. Strangelove-style. You hear about the 10-second opening, but it doesn't actually hit you until you actually see it. Good lord, that was frustrating.
I don't even think that was 10 seconds.:sad:
Also, Ben Browder is still awesome.
Funkatron
07-15-2005, 11:14 PM
John Chricton if he was a military pilot.
Not complaining. I love the new character. But it is John Chricton as a Air Force pilot
ManicWebb
07-15-2005, 11:21 PM
John Chricton if he was a military pilot.
Not complaining. I love the new character. But it is John Chricton as a Air Force pilot
Wait... wasn't John Chricton still an Air Force officer? I know he was a pilot, and most NASA pilots tend to be in the Air Force.
Look at it this way, it's more time for the actual series. :cool:No it isn't. It's just more time for commercials. The actual episode is still the same length. And it's hard to get into the show without the OP.
Thoughts:
-Eh, the new General's OK. Nothing really stand-out so far.
-Walter has come into his own since Season 8. And I love it.
-Weird seeing SG-1 broken up like that.
-Cameron was pretty boring except when he was talking with Teal'c. They have good chemistry.
-Of course, not as good as Daniel/Vala. That duo easily carried the episode.
Funkatron
07-15-2005, 11:24 PM
No it isn't. It's just more time for commercials. The actual episode is still the same length. And it's hard to get into the show without the OP.
Thoughts:
-Eh, the new General's OK. Nothing really stand-out so far.
-Walter has come into his own since Season 8. And I love it.
-Weird seeing SG-1 broken up like that.
-Cameron was pretty boring except when he was talking with Teal'c. They have good chemistry.
-Of course, not as good as Daniel/Vala. That duo easily carried the episode. I feel sorry for missing the first Vala episode.
I loved the Teal'c/Cameron dynamic. He'd just make a joke or try to lighten the mood and Teal'c would just look at him :p
Chosen Raven
07-15-2005, 11:52 PM
I'll tell ya right now, I can't stand Vala. She's a character that actually makes me embarassed to watch the show with anyone.
I'll tell ya right now, I can't stand Vala. She's a character that actually makes me embarassed to watch the show with anyone.Well, she's in the next 4 episodes thanks to Amanda Tapping's pregnancy, and she'll likely appear in the season finale as well.
ManicWebb
07-16-2005, 02:10 AM
Well, she's in the next 4 episodes thanks to Amanda Tapping's pregnancy, and she'll likely appear in the season finale as well.
Or should we be calling it the series finale? This is, after all, the final season!
That is, until their contracts get renewed next Spring.
Wounded_Dragon
07-16-2005, 05:07 AM
Or should we be calling it the series finale? This is, after all, the final season!
That is, until their contracts get renewed next Spring.
Oy...not sure if even alcohol could get me through another season.
Nothing against Ben(just the writers), but Cameron Mitchell came off like a self-insert fanfic character in this episode. Guy comes out of nowhere, the other main characters bow before his greatness, he does cool things (did in this case)...
I know they're trying to sell him as the leader of SG1 (which will look *awfully* weird when Carter returns...) but they tried to sell him a little too hard.
Temple Fugate
07-16-2005, 11:28 PM
I couldn't think of a better actor to replace Richard Dean Anderson than Ben Browder. However, his role was, as Wounded_Dragon said, fanficy. On one hand, he's revered by SG-1 because he saved their butts in the season 7 finale (strange they never MENTIONED him if they thought so much of him), but he also revered SG-1 himself. He's the fan in all of us going "if I were him, I'd want to be with Carter, Teal'c and Jackson too."
O'Neil is still awesome. "You can do anything you want. ... Well, not anything...."
I hated the first Vala episode. This one was easier to stomach because the main characters had the majority of screen time. Her relationship with Daniel is awfully childish compared to her first appearance, though.
Just how much time has passed on Earth between "Moebius" Part II and "Avalon?" Daniel's grown a beard and SG-1 has totally split up, but the Daedalus is only now being launched to Atlantis. Sure, all that can happen in about a week, but it seemed like it had been a longer time than that. It's just weird to watch these shows not sync up when there's clearly a LOT of effort on the writers' part to keep continuity.
Stargate SG-1 9x01: "Avalon" - 3/5
To Be Continued...
Just how much time has passed on Earth between "Moebius" Part II and "Avalon?" Daniel's grown a beard and SG-1 has totally split up, but the Daedalus is only now being launched to Atlantis. Sure, all that can happen in about a week, but it seemed like it had been a longer time than that. It's just weird to watch these shows not sync up when there's clearly a LOT of effort on the writers' part to keep continuity.More than likely this episode takes place after the Daedalus leaves Atlantis after the Wraith attack (unless the Daedalus ends up stuck on Atlantis, which would suck big time).
As for never mentioning Cameron in Season 8...they never talked about the battle over Antarctica. They talked about Anubis, but not the actual battle.
JohnCrichton
07-18-2005, 09:20 AM
Watched it.
It's good seeing John Crichton in action again, but the world of Stargate is a bit much to handle. Such low budget sets, military, then suddenly we got spaceships, hyperdrives, Stargates, wars alien races.... it's going to take a bit to see how it all falls into place
Ben Bowder was great.
Level of creativity in the show just doesn't stack up to the lightening and madness of Farscape.
Watching this show, I got the feeling I was playing an RPG with friends over a tabletop. The quest to find Merlin seemed impromptu and on the fly, then you gotta solve puzzles.... I was waiting for them to get jumped by orcs while they were underground. http://forums.henshinjustice.com/images/smilies/tongue2.gif
Anyway, I'll be tuning in, if for not other reason that I'm a fan of Ben Bowder and Claudia Black. This should be quite an interesting show to check out.
Temple Fugate
07-18-2005, 04:55 PM
Watched it.
It's good seeing John Crichton in action again, but the world of Stargate is a bit much to handle. Such low budget sets, military, then suddenly we got spaceships, hyperdrives, Stargates, wars alien races.... it's going to take a bit to see how it all falls into placeJust because the sets on Stargate are generally boring, I wouldn't go so far as to blame it on the budget. It's a military base hidden inside a mountain, it's not gonna be as colorful as Moya. Atlantis is far prettier than the SGC.
But I'm with you on the whole Merlin quest thing. It's an interesting change of pace from Egyptian legend, but at the same time it's also obvious the writers have pretty much exhausted that angle over eight years.
Beefy
07-18-2005, 10:38 PM
Not bad, however, I'm starting to like Atlantis more than SG-1. But maybe that will change...
Poor Daniel, will you ever get to visit Atlantis?
Poor Daniel, will you ever get to visit Atlantis?In a word...
yes.
Wounded_Dragon
07-19-2005, 01:13 AM
Who do you think got the better intro, Jonas Quinn or Cameron Mitchell?...or is that a trick question.
Who do you think got the better intro, Jonas Quinn or Cameron Mitchell?...or is that a trick question.Cameron, merely because we got more footage of the Antarctica battle.
Wounded_Dragon
07-19-2005, 10:02 AM
Cameron, merely because we got more footage of the Antarctica battle.
Jonas had a nice build-up though. Not fanficy for the most part. His season of fitting in worked well, too bad it got wasted by the return of Daniel Jackson.
Jonas had a nice build-up though. Not fanficy for the most part. His season of fitting in worked well, too bad it got wasted by the return of Daniel Jackson.Eh, his intro in Season 5 was OK, but when he wanted to join SG-1 in Season 6, it just didn't feel right.
Sucks that Richard Dean Anderson wont be around as much. I guess macguyver cant hold out forever : /
but its nice to see the farscape cast roll into another original series.
Sucks that Richard Dean Anderson wont be around as much. I guess macguyver cant hold out forever : /It has nothing to do with RDA's health. He just wants to spend some more time with his daughter.
Temple Fugate
07-19-2005, 04:29 PM
but its nice to see the farscape cast roll into another original series.We're gonna have to take a page from the Plutonians on ATHF and start calling this show Fargate. :anime:
I was a little displeased that the only way the writers felt they could get us to like Browder's new character was to show us that he saved SG-1 in Antarctica. The flashbacks felt a little force-fed, like a fanfic. The only thing they needed to do to get me to like the guy was have him come in and start spreading around the attitude, and that's exactly what he did. So, as long as the flashbacks are over and done with, I'm not gonna complain.
JohnCrichton
07-19-2005, 05:17 PM
Just because the sets on Stargate are generally boring, I wouldn't go so far as to blame it on the budget. It's a military base hidden inside a mountain, it's not gonna be as colorful as Moya. Atlantis is far prettier than the SGC.
I don't mean to blame. I think they're smart. One of the reasons why Farscape feel was the expense of the sets n' stuff. Stargate's smart to pinch pennies yet still create a fanastic world at the same time.
But I'm with you on the whole Merlin quest thing. It's an interesting change of pace from Egyptian legend, but at the same time it's also obvious the writers have pretty much exhausted that angle over eight years.
I'm okay with hokey... so, it's cool. It's just I've heard a lot of good about the show and this Merlin thing seemed.... reaching. I do like that fighter pilot stuff I saw, tho. That and the rest of the implied universe that was mentioned but not actually seen intrigue me.
I'll be sticking it out for a few more eps to see if it snags me.
Aquadementia
07-19-2005, 05:56 PM
We're gonna have to take a page from the Plutonians on ATHF and start calling this show Fargate. :anime:
I was a little displeased that the only way the writers felt they could get us to like Browder's new character was to show us that he saved SG-1 in Antarctica. The flashbacks felt a little force-fed, like a fanfic. The only thing they needed to do to get me to like the guy was have him come in and start spreading around the attitude, and that's exactly what he did. So, as long as the flashbacks are over and done with, I'm not gonna complain.Yes, the flashbacks were horrible. They didn't have a thing to do with anything. It was just to introduce him as everyones bestest friend from way back, but for some reason we haven't seen him untill now. and it just seamed stupid that he kept daydreaming every five minutes.
But other then that, great addition to the cast.
I liked the part where everyone he interviewed for SG1 was either a grunt with zero personality "people call me Dave" or total nerds with vary close to zero personality.
ManicWebb
07-19-2005, 07:38 PM
It's just I've heard a lot of good about the show and this Merlin thing seemed.... reaching. I do like that fighter pilot stuff I saw, tho. That and the rest of the implied universe that was mentioned but not actually seen intrigue me.
Ah, new to the show? If you had seen the past 8 seasons (which slammed us with Thor, Loki, Anubis, Osiris, Ra, the lost city of Atlantis, Native American spirits, the fountain of youth, hippies, and Dom DeLuise), the Merlin stuff probably wouldn't have felt as "reaching." In fact, I thought it was just another Tuesday.
It has nothing to do with RDA's health. He just wants to spend some more time with his daughter.
never said anything about his health
ManicWebb
07-22-2005, 10:13 PM
You know, I'm really not liking this episode. Vala is funny is small doses, but she's really ruining this for me.
On the plus side: Lexa Doig!
Wow. I don't believe it. A major character was killed and then revived...but it WASN'T Daniel! O.O
And I guess whoever makes Lunchables puzzles must have some kind of subconcious link with the Ancinets or something.
StarScream64
07-23-2005, 11:50 PM
Yeah, the whole "only YOU can wield the sword" thing seemed kind of off to me. Like a bad attempt to make us go "oooo! He found a surge of new strength and fought off the knight! That is so COOOOOL!"
Quite fanficcy, now that you mention it.
This episode made me remember what I had forgotten most of last season; that not every episode is necessarily exciting/life or death for 70% of the show. I love the show, been watching it since Day 1, but I think I'm getting a little tired of the whole "team landing on a less-advanced planet, natives mistaking them for heretics/gods/bad guys" thing.
Didn't necessarily like Vala, but, didn't really dislike her either. Sort of...
And the worst part of the entire episode...NO OPENING THEME!!! I think a part of me has died this night... -_-
I think I'm getting a little tired of the whole "team landing on a less-advanced planet, natives mistaking them for heretics/gods/bad guys" thing. But...they WEREN'T mistaken for anything other than non-believers. They're not believed to be Gods or anything, just looney and full of blasphemy,
Temple Fugate
07-24-2005, 10:30 PM
Part II was average. A little worse than Part I, mostly because Browder didn't get too much screen time to be his cool badass self. :D But I still like Daniel's character, though he wasn't as quirky this time around, and given the situation I don't blame him. I'm very interested to see where this is leading.
Was that the Andromeda AI as the doctor? So, this show is now Quantum Stardromedascape. I guess.
Stargate SG-1 9x02: "Avalon" Part II - 3 Jaffa
ManicWebb
07-25-2005, 04:25 AM
Was that the Andromeda AI as the doctor?
Yep. The sexy Lexa Doig. She's also playing a college professor on "The 4400."
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