C&C - Paranoia Agent - "Holy Warrior" [6/25]

[The Landstander]

Heh, AS.com still has this marked as being at 12.

[Lord Dalek]

OMG!

D&D Parody!

[jethrek]

hums the Zelda theme

[Chad Bonin]

So, um, when does this come on?

[Mugen]

So, um, when does this come on?
1 a.m.

[jethrek]

Right now

[Vagrant]

See kids, this is what too much RPG'ing will do to you. :p

Lil' Slugger is even more amusing, creepy and enigmatic up close and personal.

[Railith]

I am so crushing on this, chief has D&D issues.

[Mrs._Tom_Ato]

All of the orgasms that've ever been and ever will be cannot equal an iota of the pleasure I'm getting out of this episode.

[jethrek]

I am so crushing on this, cheif has D&D issues.
Nowhere near Kozuka's D&D issues...

[Pizzaguy24]

hhhmmmmm, I still can't read japanese:shrug:

Don't get me wrong this show is still awsome:D

[Jack Frenzy]

Weren't captions supposed to start this episode?

[jethrek]

Weren't captions supposed to start this episode?
The sad thing is it doesn't really matter. The only text worth reading was in the first four episodes anyway.

[livingfruitvirus]

I still don't get how they keep randomly astroprojecting into this fantasy world.

[Railith]

I still don't get how they keep randomly astroprojecting into this fantasy world.
It's Lil Slugger's point of view, and mine about 27% of the time.

[Quincy Archer]

All Around the Mulberry Bush, my partner chases a LOONY, And I don't know what I'm doing here...



What does this show do strange things to my brain :confused:

[Chad Bonin]

See that Princess?

... I'd hit that.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

this show was almost good until this episode. now I'm writing it off as I did Champloo :yawn: lil midevil slugger sucks as does an entire episode based around it and that cop yelling his head off so goodbye Paranoia Agent

[jethrek]

this show was almost good until this episode. now I'm writing it off as I did Champloo :yawn: lil midevil slugger sucks as does an entire episode based around it and that cop yelling his head off so goodbye Paranoia Agent
This is classic Satoshi Kon, pure distorted reality view.

P.S. Who said this show lacked any good action? :D

[Railith]

For a crazy sureal show, there are some pretty good fight scenes, and I liked the squish.

[Mr. Pedro]

STOMP: GAME OVER

That just made my whole night. In fact, the entire episode was pure sweetness. :D

[blue_blood]

It just occurred to me that we need a new edit list person

[shoujoaifan]

So PA's characters are joining .//HACK's in losing their minds, eh? :p

Hmm, makes you wonder who was fantazing that world: The kid, the cops, or both?

[Vagrant]

All of the orgasms that've ever been and ever will be cannot equal an iota of the pleasure I'm getting out of this episode. I dunno.

Orgamisimg with the evil princess would be the fshizzle. :cool:

[Chrono1995]

This episode not only completely detached itself from whatever form of reality it had established, but it seems like they just stopped trying to make sense. Loved every minute of it though.

[Chuquita]

"You're enjoying this, aren't you?"
This was so much fun! Really enjoyable episode.

[Shnay]

So we finally learn the first real details about Li'l Slugger, and I gotta say, I was very dissapointed. I really didn't like the direction they took with Li'l Slugger, and now I'm worried about what the rest of the series will be like. I was so taken in by the first few episodes that I thought this might become one of my favorite shows, but now I don't know. I didn't care for this angle of the story, and if they continue on with it, I imagine I'll find the rest of the series rather boring.

However, the show has done enough interesting things that I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt that it can turn this into something really interesting. Come on, PA, don't do me wrong...

[jethrek]

So we finally learn the first real details about Li'l Slugger, and I gotta say, I was very dissapointed. I really didn't like the direction they took with Li'l Slugger, and now I'm worried about what the rest of the series will be like. I was so taken in by the first few episodes that I thought this might become one of my favorite shows, but now I don't know. I didn't care for this angle of the story, and if they continue on with it, I imagine I'll find the rest of the series rather boring.

However, the show has done enough interesting things that I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt that it can turn this into something really interesting. Come on, PA, don't do me wrong...
You think you have any idea what the rest of the series will be like?

Next episode is completely different.

[Shnay]

Glad to hear it.

[PickHut]

That episode had too much awesomeness in it. A+.

[SirLemming]

This was more interesting than the past 2 episodes on the surface, but it was just as lacking in substance. Once again, it was just, like, one static thing. Pretty much nothing happened, progressively, either in terms of plot or ideas. As far-out as it was, it didn't really excite me at all. It was more like they were saying "Look how crazy this is!" than actually being crazy.

This is especially evident watching FLCL's "Brittle Bullet" right now.

[TnAdct1]

Oh man, I'd never expected Paranoia Agent to follow in the footsteps of other anime shows and have a comical episode that mocks RPG games. Definitely the highlight of the night, especially thanks to the "straight guy" being disillusioned by this whole RPG thing ("All Around the Mulberry Bush, my partner chases a LOONY, And I don't know what I'm doing here...").

BTW, considering how Tsukiko doesn't appear in this episode (although the whole job of the "younger cop" as the bard does bring me shades of another anime character that Tsukiko's Japanese seiyuu has done), does anyone else think that the Goma that the kid is referring to has something to do with her?

[li_mangaman]

I don't remember his teeth in previous episodes but did anyone else notice the attention to the braces? Could we possibly have wasted this episode on a fake?

[Sandoz]

Interesting episode. It really threw me for a loop, though I didn't like the fact that the tone of this episode was so widely different from the previous ones. Still, it was amusing to see the cops interact with "Lil' Slugger" as reality bled into fantasy.


BTW, considering how Tsukiko doesn't appear in this episode (although the whole job of the "younger cop" as the bard does bring me shades of another anime character that Tsukiko's Japanese seiyuu has done), does anyone else think that the Goma that the kid is referring to has something to do with her? I think Goema = Maromi.

[Youko Recca]

See that Princess?

... I'd hit that.
And then end up dead by sunrise.

[SirLemming]

And then end up dead by sunrise. Unless he was referring to the type of hitting that involves a poison-tipped scimitar.

[gpe]

I don't remember his teeth in previous episodes but did anyone else notice the attention to the braces? Could we possibly have wasted this episode on a fake?I could not agree with you more... I thought the exact same thing when i saw those braces

[Master Moron]

Oh man, I'd never expected Paranoia Agent to follow in the footsteps of other anime shows and have a comical episode that mocks RPG games. Definitely the highlight of the night, especially thanks to the "straight guy" being disillusioned by this whole RPG thing ("All Around the Mulberry Bush, my partner chases a LOONY, And I don't know what I'm doing here...").

BTW, considering how Tsukiko doesn't appear in this episode (although the whole job of the "younger cop" as the bard does bring me shades of another anime character that Tsukiko's Japanese seiyuu has done), does anyone else think that the Goma that the kid is referring to has something to do with her?

Hmmm...Tsukiko's the anime artist right? Yeah, actually I was thinking that maybe all the characters in this show are part of an anime she drew or something crazy like that, but I'm probably wrong.

[Shnay]

I don't remember his teeth in previous episodes but did anyone else notice the attention to the braces? Could we possibly have wasted this episode on a fake?It's definitely a possibility (and an "out" I wouldn't mind at this point) but there are a number of problems with the idea of this kid being a fake that people brought up in last week's C&C thread.

[Yal]

It's Millennium Actress! With nutcases!

[li_mangaman]

It's Millennium Actress! With nutcases!OMG you're right!

I thought we stated last week that he was a fake. I only read up to about p2.5 though.

[Vagrant]

And then end up dead by sunrise. I'd still hit it.

It's better to go out with a bang.

[Behonkiss]

I kind of feel that this was the worst episode of PA so far. I love the show because it's so interesting to watch the characters' quirky lives, and the bizarre bits pop up randomly and are a great surprise. This was just one big bizarre bit and didn't let us know enough about Lil' Slugger, though it did seem to confirm my theory that Old Man is behind it as well as adding Old Woman to the mix. By the drawn-out fight with Butterfly Maria at the end, I felt like I was watching .hack or something.

[remnant]

So we finally learn the first real details about Li'l Slugger, and I gotta say, I was very dissapointed. I really didn't like the direction they took with Li'l Slugger, and now I'm worried about what the rest of the series will be like. I was so taken in by the first few episodes that I thought this might become one of my favorite shows, but now I don't know. I didn't care for this angle of the story, and if they continue on with it, I imagine I'll find the rest of the series rather boring.

However, the show has done enough interesting things that I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt that it can turn this into something really interesting. Come on, PA, don't do me wrong... Don't worry. It goes back to crazy stuff next week like the cop watching his 17 year old daughter undress.

[Vagrant]

And a shreaded dick? I think not. Stick to lurking the malls, but don't mimic Knux. Otherwise you'll never get a date. Date?

Why would I need to date right now? One relationship is enough as it is. :sweat:

It appears you are taking this a little too seriously. If I recall correctly, is all fantasy. She dosen't exist and as far as I'm concerned, neither do you.

I can take neither seriously. :D

[Youko Recca]

I haven't been serious this whole time.


Anyway, yeah peoples, this doesn't define what the rest of the show will be like. I'm sure next week will get us all chilled again.

[Eddie G.]

It's definitely a possibility (and an "out" I wouldn't mind at this point) but there are a number of problems with the idea of this kid being a fake that people brought up in last week's C&C thread.


Minor spoilerish thing about if this Lil' Slugger is a fake or not. Note that I don't actually know if he is or isn't.
I have a still image of LiL' Slugger as my wallpaper. He doesn't have braces, his skin is a tad darker, and this kid was more much more thin with a longer neck than what's on my wallpaper That may not mean that this Lil' Slugger is a fake... but still.

If it is a fake I think he is connected to Lil' Slugger.


Anyway I liked this episode more than most people did. I loved how it visually departed from the rest of the series, being more abstract and letting characters even go off model at points. The Lil' Slugger's POV thing went on a little too long, it was enjoyable at some points, but boring at other points.

It was the worst episode of the series but still pretty damn good.

[SirLemming]

I too hope next week gets back to the good stuff... ...but I think the third episode was already getting off-track.
It's Millennium Actress! With nutcases!THAT'S IT! It wasn't something I couldn't put my finger on or anything like that (like Champloo's Waltz For Venus scenario), but it's definitely a good comparison.

[Shnay]

Minor spoilerish thing about if this Lil' Slugger is a fake or not. Note that I don't actually know if he is or isn't.
I have a still image of LiL' Slugger as my wallpaper. He doesn't have braces, his skin is a tad darker, and this kid was more much more thin with a longer neck than what's on my wallpaper That may not mean that this Lil' Slugger is a fake... but still.

If it is a fake I think he is connected to Lil' Slugger.Yeah, I realize now that he's definitely not the Li'l Slugger we've seen in previous episodes, but I can't think of any good explanation as to who he is. We now know that he isn't a copycat, as he has his own motivations for attacking people (though I suppose it could be an act). I think you're right that there has to be some connection between this kid and the "real" Li'l Slugger. Having his appearance be almost identical to the original Li'l Slugger's is too much to be a coincidence, as is his choice of victim and the timing of his attack.

I've got an idea or two about what the connection could be, but none of them are very good. As I said, hopefully they'll take this angle of the story somewhere interesting, and I generally have faith that they can.

Also, for no real reason, here's my ranking of episodes from best to worst, so far: episode 2, 3, 1, 4, 5.

[Tash]

Yeah, he's definitely not the Li'l Slugger we've seen in previous episodes, but I can't think of any good explanation as to who he is. We now know that he isn't a copycat, as he has his own motivations for attacking people (though I suppose it could be an act). I think you're right that there has to be some connection between this kid and the "real" Li'l Slugger. Having his appearance be almost identical to the original Li'l Slugger's is too much to be a coincidence, as is his choice of victim and the timing of his attack.

I've got an idea or two about what the connection could be, but none of them are very good. As I said, hopefully they'll take this angle of the story somewhere interesting, and I generally have faith that they can.

Also, for no real reason, here's my ranking of episodes from best to worst, so far: episode 2, 3, 1, 4, 5.But... He knew about the old man. If he wasn't real, how would he have known about the old man? Maybe... they're twin brothers.

[Shnay]

Or maybe the real Li'l Slugger got some orthodontia work done after episode three.

[MrBananagrabber]

Or maybe the real Li'l Slugger got some orthodontia work done after episode three.
Braces are pretty painful, if I had a pair of roller blades and a bat back in middle school, I'd probably have gone on a killing spree myself :P

When I saw this episode, I wasn't really sure WHAT to think, since it was just so bizarre. Not really the sort of thing I was expecting from this show. But still, I think it could have been much worse. The show definitely redeems itself, even though I don't think this episode was so awful. The rest of the show isn't a D&D hallucination, don't worry

[Parco]

My personal favorite theory is that Li'l Slugger's braces are picking up a massive number of radio signals from the constant cell phone use all over the place (remember, this is Japan, everyone owns a cell phone) and it's completely screwing with his mind.

[Master Moron]

I'm thinking maybe there's more than one Little Slugger. Like someone's making people crazy and creating an army of Little Sluggers. Wow, that really sounds pretty crazy when I type it. But, I at the very least think there's more than one Little Slugger. There's no way one kid can pull this all off.

By the way, wasn't Goma that giant spider boss from Zelda?

[Eddie G.]

I'm thinking maybe there's more than one Little Slugger. Like someone's making people crazy and creating an army of Little Sluggers. Wow, that really sounds pretty crazy when I type it. But, I at the very least think there's more than one Little Slugger. There's no way one kid can pull this all off.I think the kid we saw tonight was one of the "victims," except in his case he couldn't escape his corner by being hit on the head with a baseball bat. He had to escape his corner by escaping reality and taking on the role of Lil' Slugger/Hero.

I also noticed last night, all the "victims" have had some form of duality.

Tsukiko and Maromi basically live in the same mind... or maybe not.

Ichi basically had two sides to him. He tried to act cool and nice to people but inside he was bitter and paranoid.

Harumi and Maria, obviously.

Hirukawa had the false image of a hero and family man, while being a dirty cop and perv.

This Lil' Slugger had his fantasty world and who he really is.

We also have pairs for other people; two cops, two freaky elderly people, possibly two Lil' Sluggers.

Also up until A Man's Path, Lil' Slugger attacked two people (If you count Maria and Harumi as two people) per episode.

[jethrek]

Eddie G. is an astute fellow. There's more character dualities....

Master Moron: Yes, hence my humming the Zelda theme before it aired (in my spoiler tag)

[Kino]

Right on, Eddie G! It seems like everybody that Lil Slugger's attacked (with the notable exception of Tsukiko) has expressed a need to be rescued from their baser influences. Speaking of Tsukiko, Makoto never mentioned attacking her. Is it possible that Makoto is a "copycat," influenced by Tsukiko's now-infamous description of Lil Slugger? If this is so, could Tsukiko's Lil Slugger be a figment of her imagination or a memory, conjured up as an excuse for not working? Remember the show's ongoing motif: "It's not my fault!"

[herbkir]

I'm convinced the cops don't have the real Lil' Slugger. Instead they got a kid who's OD'd on RPGs and adopted the Lil' Slugger persona as a mystical hero. It was a neat twist seeing all this from the perspective of the kid's imagination and how he made the younger cop into an RPG character. Wild. But enjoyable, especially the detective straight man who just doesn't get it.

Someone out there is watching Paranoia Agent. I was at the JAFAX anime con in Grand Rapids MI this past weekend and saw 2 cosplayers portraying Lil' Slugger even though they were tall people. (^_*)

[Anyone00]

I can't help but feel that the "yellow glow" he mentioned is important.

Also he used "Holy Warriors" - plural.

[The Collector]

This was a very entertaining episode. I never expected a show that seemed so serious to go completely nuts in a comedic sense, I was laughing through the whole thing. Even though it didn't really fit with the mood of the show, it was a nice change of pace. I imagine next week it'll get back to it's serious nature and maybe we'll find out if the kid they caught is a fake or not.

[G1Ravage]

By the way, wasn't Goma that giant spider boss from Zelda?
Gohma, yes. But was originally just your run-of-the-mill spider foe out in the countryside. The one in Ocarina of Time happened to be a mutated giant.

[HumanoidTyphoon]

Gohma, yes. But was originally just your run-of-the-mill spider foe out in the countryside. The one in Ocarina of Time happened to be a mutated giant.It was a giant mutated boss in the first game also. There were regular spider enemies just they weren't Gohma.


This was the best episode. They should have made a series out of it. The show gets back on track for an episode or 2 but then goes back into nonsensical stuff but without the fantasy elements that made this episode. Maybe I'll understand it better the second time through.

[Ferquin]

I also noticed last night, all the "victims" have had some form of duality.I initially thought that too, but what blows that theory away is the sleazy reporter guy. He didn't have any duality in him at all that I could immediately see.
There are dualities, but it is not the central theme to the show as you will see later. 'Course, I've already watched the whole thing so I don't want to saw more that would outright spoil everything.

Oh, and if I remember correctly, the sound for this episode is the level-up fanfare for Li'l Slugger.

[Shnay]

Ushiyama also doesn't seem to have any duality to his nature. Both he and the reporter weren't attacked to be released from anything like the other victims were (as far as I can tell at this point, anyway). Perhaps Ushiyama and the reporter are sort of tangential victims, and were attacked to better help Ichi and Tsukiko respectively. If this is the case, then maybe they shouldn't be taken into account when comparing the nature of Li'l Slugger's victims.

The idea of Li'l Slugger helping his victim also brings up another example of two very different perceptions of a character. The general public views Li'l Slugger as a sadistic youth attacking people for no apparent reason, while his (their?) victims view him as a sort of savior.

[animePWNS]

This episode had me laughing the whole time. I didn't expect that from a show like this. To me, it was also like a clip show without clips. We got a review of the attacks from the past episodes and saw the old man's animals referenced from episode 3 (I forget what the bird was, though).

I'm looking forward to whatever secrets the old woman has.

[Ferquin]

The bird is Tsukiko.

[guinaevere]

So we finally learn the first real details about Li'l Slugger, and I gotta say, I was very dissapointed. I really didn't like the direction they took with Li'l Slugger, and now I'm worried about what the rest of the series will be like. I was so taken in by the first few episodes that I thought this might become one of my favorite shows, but now I don't know. I'm another who was a tad shocked by the sudden change in genre. I turn on the dvr, hoping to see another good psycho-drama type... and whathu?

Now, reading several of the posts here, I'm confident our creepy motif will return, but yeesh! Confused the heck out of me.

I don't remember his teeth in previous episodes but did anyone else notice the attention to the braces? Could we possibly have wasted this episode on a fake? Eh, to me, it's just an oversight. You're being attacked from behind by someone who overtakes you at a much faster pace than you were originally going... how much detail do you take in when so surprized?

As to the fake, it's possible of course. But the nature of lil' slugger, his motives, they align with his previous actions, remember, 'setting them free/ so many people to save.' For what? half of the victims, that's perfect.

So we're at the duality question... could the other half have been hit by another lil' slugger? I don't think so... Go back to the last line of ep1, "hello again."

[Shnay]

Eh, to me, it's just an oversight. You're being attacked from behind by someone who overtakes you at a much faster pace than you were originally going... how much detail do you take in when so surprized?But the audience gets to view Li'l Slugger differently. We don't have to rely on sketchy descriptions from the victims, we can actually see him, albeit in brief shots. Looking at it now, the shot of him showing the braces just screams "CLUE HERE! CLUE! DID YOU NOTICE THIS?!" It seems very much in the style of other shows which will spend an extra beat on something that appears insignificant when in fact it's an important clue.

I'm going to try and watch this again on Thursday to see if I enjoy the episode more now that I have the rest of the series in better perspective.

[guinaevere]

But the audience gets to view Li'l Slugger differently. We don't have to rely on sketchy descriptions from the victims, we can actually see him, albeit in brief shots. Yes, but much is from the characters POV. Muromi talking/walking around... gah, I just had all sorts of examples, and my brain just rebooted... =\

Looking at it now, the shot of him showing the braces just screams "CLUE HERE! CLUE! DID YOU NOTICE THIS?!" It seems very much in the style of other shows which will spend an extra beat on something that appears insignificant when in fact it's an important clue. Interesting.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but to me, it was just a close up. I watch the show at its' pace... opening ep, why all the people on phones? Were they all important? Possibly, or possibly it's just window dressing... something the director threw in for the feel.

But again, as you say, most of what's thrown in, is relevent to storyline. We shall see.

[Scythemantis]

I saw all the way up to the next three or four episodes before it came to AS, and trust me here - things just get CREEPIER. This "wacky" episode stands alone.


And incidentally, the episode had nothing to do with D&D. It was a take on videogame-type RPG's, specifically the wildly popular (in japan) Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior series. The monsters in the episode were drawn in Akira Toriyama's style, who designs all the monsters and characters for Dragon Quest, and even the kid's strategy guide is based on the distinct layout of DQ books.

[Shnay]

Yes, but much is from the characters POV.Very true. However, I get the impression that the moment of Li'l Slugger's attacks are instances where they break POV and "pull back" to reality. For example, near the end of the Harumi/Maria episode, we see Maria appearing in different places to taunt Harumi and convince her that she is a fraud. This is obviously playing out from Harumi's point of view. However, there comes a moment when we pull back to a more objective point of view to see Harumi covered in odd make up just as Li'l Slugger attacks her. For another example, we see the "regular" image of Li'l Slugger in Ichi's episode, instead of seeing him through one of his surreal hallucinations.

Also, if every attack played out from the point of view of the different characters, wouldn't we see slight variations of Li'l Slugger from person to person? I think li magnaman and Eddie G called it...the braces are the key.

[guinaevere]

Also, if every attack played out from the point of view of the different characters, wouldn't we see slight variations of Li'l Slugger from person to person? True. But just as his description started to come together bit by bit, as memories fell into place, there's the possibility of something like braces never haven been noticed.

That's actually the thought that hit me last night, after logging off... that sometimes all of a sudden you notice something (often obvious) about someone you know casually and become sorta fixated on it (owing to the thinking like, 'how the heck could I have missed that before?!'). Or maybe that's just me.

And maybe I just don't want there to be multiple Lil' Sluggers.

I think li magnaman and Eddie G called it...the braces are the key. Could very well be. But I'm fighting it, Shnay. I'm gonna fight it till the end. http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/guinaevere/smilies/wink.gif

[Shnay]

And maybe I just don't want there to be multiple Lil' Sluggers.I think I'd rather have that than have the one, true Li'l Slugger be a kid who went nuts after running into one too many random battles in an RPG. Really, I'm not too wild about either possibility, so I'm hoping that my early theories about Li'l Slugger being more abstract than the show lets on are closer to the truth.

After watching this episode again (didn't care for it the second time, either), it seems like there are a few things that don't add up with the information we have so far. While I'm still concerned as to whether the show will be able to live up to my expectations after this odd turn, I think there's enough room to work to make the truth behind Li'l Slugger satisfying.

[ClockStomper]

I'm thinking the concept is similar to the Stand Alone Complex. Meaning, I think Tsukiko Sagi made up her attack. The reports of her false story were heard by this kid with mental issues, and he started attacking people due to his dellusions.

When Tsukiko saw Little Slugger (crazy boy) after he attacked the sleazy reporter, she must have been confused/disturbed to see her fake character come to life, and since then she convinced herself it was real, and started seeing Maromi too.

I think this kid is responsible for all the attacks but the first (maybe not Yuichi, as he was freaking out and it was broad daylight. He might have bonked himself or ran into something while freaking out and convinced himself he was "freed" by Lil' Slugger.) I don't remember RPG boy mentioning Yuichi or Ms. Sagi.

[TnAdct1]

I think this kid is responsible for all the attacks but the first (maybe not Yuichi, as he was freaking out and it was broad daylight. He might have bonked himself or ran into something while freaking out and convinced himself he was "freed" by Lil' Slugger.) I don't remember RPG boy mentioning Yuichi or Ms. Sagi. Oh yeah, the boy definitely didn't mention Tsukiko. However, I do believe that the arrested Shounen Bat (Lil' Slugger's Japanese name) did mention Yuichi in his story.

[jethrek]

Guinavere is actually correct. Lil' Slugger's appearance is based on how people see him.

This is how Satoshi Kon works a lot of the time. If something is seen barely by a person, he may throw off the character's look in that scene.

Mind you, he DOES know about the old man and the old lady....


All this real Lil Slugger vs. fake Lil slugger stuff...ever consider he really IS a Holy Warrior?

[Shnay]

Guinavere is actually correct. Lil' Slugger's appearance is based on how people see him.I stand corrected. I'm still curious why we've seen so little variation in his appearance if this is the case, although perhaps there were lots of little details I missed.

[ClockStomper]

I think the most obvious one is the instance when Yuichi freaked out and saw him in squiggle vision.

[Behonkiss]

I just want to say that I decided to pick up the 2nd DVD of PA while on vacation this week, and watched episodes 6 and 7 in advance. Let me just say to Shnay and those who were disappointed by this episode and Lil' Slugger's unveiling that not only do the next two episodes totally make a jump back up in quality and return to the show's normal style, but will inspire a huge amount of theory discussions, myself included.

Wait until tonight to see what I mean, as well as what is probably the most horrific scene in the show so far.

[guinaevere]

Guinavere is actually correct. Lil' Slugger's appearance is based on how people see him. Two things.

Hoo-AH! I rock!
I hope that wasn't a spoiler... I kinda like not knowing what's going on, and having something to work out as the show progresses. There's little enough on tv that actually encourages the audience to think, rather than spood-feeding them the whole thing... =\


All this real Lil Slugger vs. fake Lil slugger stuff...ever consider he really IS a Holy Warrior?
I have. I'm probably one of the only ones around here who isn't irritated by that possibility, too.

[jethrek]

Two things.


Hoo-AH! I rock!
I hope that wasn't a spoiler... I kinda like not knowing what's going on, and having something to work out as the show progresses. There's little enough on tv that actually encourages the audience to think, rather than spood-feeding them the whole thing... =\
I have. I'm probably one of the only ones around here who isn't irritated by that possibility, too.
It isn't really a spoiler. More like an astute observation, even if it will be clearer later on.


Nobody should ever say "this is how we saw it, so that's how it must have been" about Satoshi Kon anime. I mean, if they can't shake that I'd hat eto see what Perfect Blue would do to them.

[Shnay]

I'm still hung up on my earlier question: if the view of Li'l Slugger we get each week is from the point of view of the victim, why haven't there been any discernable differences in his appearance during the various attacks? Either I'm missing something big here, or every single victim sees him in the same way.

[guinaevere]

Power of suggestion? He has certain physical attributes right?






...but after last weeks ep, I'm confuddled again.