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Jimmy Kustes
06-20-2005, 07:42 PM
Case Closed and Lupin III get into their run and don't even finish. What's the point of airing good anime if they aren't going to finish it?

Beat
06-20-2005, 07:47 PM
I want to say "because it's cheap", but after seeing 12 Oz. Mouse, I honestly don't know.

Artimus Gigan
06-20-2005, 07:47 PM
Case Closed and Lupin III get into their run and don't even finish. What's the point of airing good anime if they aren't going to finish it? case closed is like 400+ episodes, it didn't have the staying power. Lupin is another long running series that didn't gain the audiances's attention. The only long running series that did was Inu-Yasha. This is why AS usualy goes for series that are around 26 episodes long, so they can have a full complete run.

livingfruitvirus
06-20-2005, 07:59 PM
Case Closed and Lupin III get into their run and don't even finish. What's the point of airing good anime if they aren't going to finish it?Because they're both too long and didn't bring in enough people to justify paying more money for something that's proved itself to be a mediocre -to-low performer.

Why do they air it at all? There needs to be some sense of variety while AS doesn't have the funds to produce their own action oriented programming. I guarantee if AS hits with a successful action show (Korgoth is on the way. Ya never know), and commissions more of the same, anime will slowly tiptoe its way out the door.

the Amanda
06-21-2005, 12:39 AM
Case Closed and Lupin III get into their run and don't even finish. What's the point of airing good anime if they aren't going to finish it?

Maybe so we can enjoy watching the episodes they do air? I'd rather watch the first eps of Conan rather than not get to watch any because they're unwilling to finish the series.

Jimmy Kustes
06-21-2005, 02:46 AM
But how many people can afford the whole series and movies of either? TV is the only option.

Artimus Gigan
06-21-2005, 02:51 AM
But how many people can afford the whole series and movies of either? TV is the only option.Well considering that many people on this board own a few hundred anime DVDs....

not to mention that Funimation is increasing the episode count and keeping the DVDs at the same price...

I'd say quite alot of people...

Eddie G.
06-21-2005, 09:11 AM
Because they're both too long and didn't bring in enough people to justify paying more money for something that's proved itself to be a mediocre -to-low performer.

Why do they air it at all? There needs to be some sense of variety while AS doesn't have the funds to produce their own action oriented programming. I guarantee if AS hits with a successful action show (Korgoth is on the way. Ya never know), and commissions more of the same, anime will slowly tiptoe its way out the door.I disagree, I think the necessity of anime will at one point be gone, but I think there always will be anime on AS as long as it catches the attention of WS. I think stuff like Scryed, Inuyasha, or Blue Gender that were aired for the sake of ratings or the sake of airing anime will be gone. I think quality shows that WS likes (FLCL and I think PA), or shows that look like they can get a solid audience while holding some standard of quality (FMA), will always have a home on AS.

But how many people can afford the whole series and movies of either? TV is the only option.You could also rent anime DVDs easily off of Netflix which has a pretty good selection of anime.

saladdays
06-21-2005, 11:05 AM
I disagree, I think the necessity of anime will at one point be gone, but I think there always will be anime on AS as long as it catches the attention of WS. I think stuff like Scryed, Inuyasha, or Blue Gender that were aired for the sake of ratings or the sake of airing anime will be gone. I think quality shows that WS likes (FLCL and I think PA), or shows that look like they can get a solid audience while holding some standard of quality (FMA), will always have a home on AS.

You could also rent anime DVDs easily off of Netflix which has a pretty good selection of anime.
Blockbuster Online also has a decent selection of anime.

jethrek
06-21-2005, 12:24 PM
I disagree, I think the necessity of anime will at one point be gone, but I think there always will be anime on AS as long as it catches the attention of WS. I think stuff like Scryed, Inuyasha, or Blue Gender that were aired for the sake of ratings or the sake of airing anime will be gone. I think quality shows that WS likes (FLCL and I think PA), or shows that look like they can get a solid audience while holding some standard of quality (FMA), will always have a home on AS.

You could also rent anime DVDs easily off of Netflix which has a pretty good selection of anime.
I don't see the day that Williams Street picks ratings-vacant Paranoia Agent over ratings-bread-winner-inu-yasha

Eddie G.
06-21-2005, 01:16 PM
I don't see the day that Williams Street picks ratings-vacant Paranoia Agent over ratings-bread-winner-inu-yashaThat's not what I said. I said that if Adult Swim were to have original action content to replace anime then I don't think AS would drop anime but they would be less likely to air anime that they think is of poor quality. You're right, Inuyasha is on AS because of ratings and Paranoia Agent is going to be on at 1:00 because of bad ratings. But if in some future where AS showcases original action instead of anime they would be less likely to pick up a show that they don't like (Inuyasha) because it might be a ratings grabber or the need for filler. They'd be more likely to only get stuff they do like (FLCL and PA [I've heard rumors that the folks running AS really do like the show a lot]).

herbkir
06-21-2005, 05:15 PM
They keep running anime because there are about 300,000 hard core action fans who'd desert the AS ship if they ever stopped it. (^_*)

NickMB
06-21-2005, 08:04 PM
I don't see the day that Williams Street picks ratings-vacant Paranoia Agent over ratings-bread-winner-inu-yasha

Inuyasha hasn't been much of a bread winner in the past few weeks :evil:

And Lupin does not get bad ratings...sheesh. I got slightly below average ratings when it first aired, and gained an audience with subsequent ratings to achieve good ratings for its slot and for the fact that its in rerun hell. Lupin's ratings last summer matched the past few Saturday ratings. Now those aren't good, but then again, Lupin was at 1:30 with reruns, while the Saturday shows are on much earlier and are premiers. A lot more people are willing to watch new episodes at an earlier time. :)

Zechs
06-21-2005, 08:44 PM
I want to say "because it's cheap", but after seeing 12 Oz. Mouse, I honestly don't know.After seeing 12 Oz I wanted to kill.

It seems these two anime did not get the ratings they wanted them too. So they just push them to the side so they can air the more popular shows and pull in the ratings.

jbanks97
06-22-2005, 03:55 PM
1. They like it

2. It "CAN" bring in consistent ratings

3. Why not?-Most people will give anything a chance. If it's good television, why not give it a shot in America?

Outside of FG/FR/AD very few shows bring in HUGE ratings anyway. The block would look boring without (most) of it.

Kagetsu
06-22-2005, 04:23 PM
:sweat: so many initials without first saying the name of the show, feels like charades without the visual humor. :sad:

I learned about anime from Adult Swim. Some I dump quickly like Lupin. Others I'll watch reruns as long as they run them. Anime is the only thing I like on AS, the comedy shows are really lame. I like a little low humor but 'shees', that stuff is awful. :sad: Why can't anyone make something as funny as "Downtown".

saladdays
06-22-2005, 05:51 PM
:sweat: so many initials without first saying the name of the show, feels like charades without the visual humor. :sad:

I learned about anime from Adult Swim. Some I dump quickly like Lupin. Others I'll watch reruns as long as they run them. Anime is the only thing I like on AS, the comedy shows are really lame. I like a little low humor but 'shees', that stuff is awful. :sad: Why can't anyone make something as funny as "Downtown".
So you don't even like Family Guy or Futurama?

Squall
06-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Personally, the only three anime shows I've enjoyed on Adult Swim are Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, and Lupin the 3rd. :D There are other anime shows (Robotech, Dragonball Z) and anime-inspired shows (Transformers, Justice League) that I enjoy, but most of Adult Swim's anime shows just aren't my cup of tea.

And I can't stand Inuyasha. :evil:

CookieS
06-24-2005, 01:35 AM
Its always hit or miss with anime titles. Not to offend any anime fans, but so many titles have a very repetitve nature to them. I think the most successful series break that repetition a little bit and let the fans in on the joke. I'm really enjoying Samurai Champloo because its witty and has nice writing. I also like Lupin, but I think it just wasn't as "hip" as could be. As for Case Closed, I never got into it, mainly because I thought the mysteries would never get solved.

Paul_Cousins
06-24-2005, 02:06 AM
:sweat: so many initials without first saying the name of the show, feels like charades without the visual humor. :sad:

I learned about anime from Adult Swim. Some I dump quickly like Lupin. Others I'll watch reruns as long as they run them. Anime is the only thing I like on AS, the comedy shows are really lame. I like a little low humor but 'shees', that stuff is awful. :sad: Why can't anyone make something as funny as "Downtown".They did. The same guys who made "Downtown" made "Megas XLR". I mean the character Goat is from the series "Downtown". :zim:

And to be fair, "Venture Brothers" is pretty good. It would be better with less toilet jokes, but it's got potential. :cool:

The problem is that those in CN are on a "cheaper is better" binge that I hope they wake up from real soon.

I think they (both CN and Williams Street) finally hit rock bottom with "12 oz mouse". :sad:

Mr_Millions
06-24-2005, 06:46 PM
I think Adult Swim will always have anime. Adult Swim began as an experimental block, and I don't believe that Williams Street will ever alow it to become completely stale. There may no longer be blocks of anime, but as has been previously stated, AS will air what WS enjoys. If anime does indeed go the way of the Do-Do, it wouldn't be Williams Street to blame - it's the viewing public. WS tries again and again to get viewers into anime (some say they can try harder), but it doesn't seem to work. Some of the cards seem to ridicule anime fans (though no less or no more than general viewers), but others seem to show general frustration with the ratings situation.

Kagetsu
06-24-2005, 07:02 PM
So you don't even like Family Guy or Futurama? Futurama is one of the funniest shows ever. I don't count it as adult swim because I watched it on fox. My fault;). Family Guy, only about 50% funny, the rest is just too dumb/crude/disgusting.
They did. The same guys who made "Downtown" made "Megas XLR". I mean the character Goat is from the series "Downtown". :zim:

And to be fair, "Venture Brothers" is pretty good. It would be better with less toilet jokes, but it's got potential. :cool:

The problem is that those in CN are on a "cheaper is better" binge that I hope they wake up from real soon.

I think they (both CN and Williams Street) finally hit rock bottom with "12 oz mouse". :sad: Megas was great but didn't have the adult theme Downtown did.

Venture Bros. had promise. I like the basic plot of a failed (not quite the right word) Johnny Quest. I actually started watching it three times hoping it would get better. The characters are just too infantile and they insist on hitting me on the head with the jokes for 5 minutes to make sure I get them, please they're not that complex.

12 oz. mouse is worse than Oblongs and SuperMilk Chan? I'm glad I haven't even heard of it. :sweat:

And to be fair, I did like most of Baby Blues. :sweat:

Space Kitty
06-24-2005, 07:39 PM
and anime-inspired shows (Transformers, Justice League) that I enjoy
Justice League anime inspired? Don't you mean Teen Titans?

JL/JLU is standard action, not exaggerated facial features and sweat drips.

Natey
06-24-2005, 09:10 PM
remember were a bunch of anime fans. most people dont know what anime is. when they watch they think its stupid so they dont watch it. i dont know if its just my area but no one watches anime

~Nate~

ClockStomper
06-30-2005, 11:01 PM
Anime aquisition is cheaper than making shows, as they pay a flat fee and (usually) get a stock of episodes right away, instead of investing in something that may or may not pay off months later.

Plus, they don't have to deal with the asshats at FOX.