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Rover_Wow

06-19-2005, 10:29 PM

I.R Joey

06-19-2005, 11:12 PM

Okay, has Foster's jumped the shark yet, and if so when? It's still enjoyable, but (like many of you here) I'm still peeved at Bendy (which I suppose some of you will consider its JTS moment). (Meanwhile, does anyone think of "When There's A Wilt..." 's ending as being a bit similar to that of Hey Arnold! "Phoebe Breaks A Leg"?)
No Foster's hasn't jumped the shark yet, and I don't think it's even close to the shark right now. With the exception of a few notable episodes, the series has been imaginative and a real breathe of fresh air.

I think Matt Wilson was the first person to make the Hey Arnold/Foster's comparison. I'd have to watch those two episodes again though before I formed an opinion.

NozeNuggets

06-20-2005, 12:14 AM

Yeah, if you want a show on CN that has jumped the shark, it's Ed, Edd and Eddy.

TrogdorNyimbhat

06-20-2005, 12:18 AM

Yeah, if you want a show on CN that has jumped the shark, it's Ed, Edd and Eddy.You're biased due to your inexplicable dislike towards the show. It never jumped the shark. The PPGs have however a long time ago.

Rover_Wow

06-20-2005, 12:27 AM

I think Matt Wilson was the first person to make the Hey Arnold/Foster's comparison. I'd have to watch those two episodes again though before I formed an opinion.

My comparison involves one specific story of both series. Meanwhile, Matt's FH/HA! comparison is more general of a comparison between the two series:

The setting is different but the shows are the same, separated only by a layer of fantasy. Mac is Arnold. There is no way around it. Deny it all you want but you know it to be true. Compare their friggin dialogue, it's almost exactly alike. Their logic, their hesitation. And just like Hey Arnold, Fosters focuses more on the large, bizarre and wacky supporting cast than the protagonist, and the protagonist is only brought in to provide advice or caution or sometimes not at all. By the end of Hey Arnold almost EVERY episode was "(insert incredibly uncared about character here) gets into (insert situation), Arnold is pulled into the middle of the mess, or may not even appear in the episode." So when I see it in Fosters do it every week it agitates me. Why can't Mac have any situations of his own? Even Hey Arnold started with Arnold being shy and running into his own problems. But right after the pilot, Mac is shoved out of the spotlight and then his life becomes meaningless in the overall story of the show. Of course, there are other things that agitate me like the music. But in my mind, it's Hey Arnold 2. I only wonder what would have happened if Craig Bartlett came to CN (which he did) and Johnny Bravo (which he wrote on) was NOT brought back into production, which was around the same time that Fosters was greenlighted.

The only ep Arnold didn't speak in was a season 2 ep ("Miss Perfect"), and that same season also had a story in which he only appeared for about 15 seconds ("Phoebe Cheats"), but I can see where Matt's coming from, as there are many season 5 eps where all Arnold did was appear for about a minute to talk to the "uncared about character" about his/her probs.
I'd rather see the story of HA! finished (see my sigs). (Wonders how many people were peeved that his much-awaited Party Wagon was 86'd by the new CN people?)

Marinite

06-20-2005, 12:41 AM

Honestly? After the first few episodes when Bloo becomes a jerk. He wasn't like that at all in the movie; a bit mischevious, but never a jerk.

Tak Mazé

06-20-2005, 04:14 AM

Honestly? After the first few episodes when Bloo becomes a jerk. He wasn't like that at all in the movie; a bit mischevious, but never a jerk.
And when you watch the mini-movie after seeing reruns of the later episodes for a month or more, you really do appreciate it more.

One Radical Dude

06-20-2005, 06:01 AM

LOL! You've gotta be kidding me.

Matt-a-Tastic

06-20-2005, 06:39 AM

I don't think fosters has jumped the shark at all. But there ocasionaly episodes that are pretty crap...

Tak Mazé

06-20-2005, 06:58 AM

But there ocasionaly episodes that are pretty crap...
Not crap exactly, that would be a little too harsh. More like, presented in the wrong way and not learning from their mistakes. What really gets me annoyed is if they have a scene which drags on forever. Any episode that has that when it doesn't need it, I would deem bad without even looking at the rest.

Conan-san

06-20-2005, 07:20 AM

Not crap exactly, that would be a little too harsh. More like, presented in the wrong way and not learning from their mistakes. ~They called him, bendy, bendy, bendy, a great big bastard...~

Mr Cat Dog

06-20-2005, 12:18 PM

Not yet.... although I do have picture of Bendy being hanged in my bedroom.

Natey

06-20-2005, 12:21 PM

nope not yet. and EEE hasnt eaither. this is nuts. fosters still has a lot more years before it jumps da shark. seriosly you this show rocks. and i have a picture of bendy being shot in my bedroom:D :evil:

~Nate~

Conan-san

06-20-2005, 01:59 PM

Not yet.... although I do have picture of Bendy being hanged in my bedroom.Plz scan that, I require it for my 2 minutes hate of Bendy.

Mr Cat Dog

06-20-2005, 02:42 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mrcatdog/Bendy.png

It's a bit crap since I hand-drew it, but the feeling and passion is still there.

TrogdorNyimbhat

06-20-2005, 05:29 PM

That slipknot doesn't seem to get tighter around the esophagus. And Bloo's mouth are always supposed to be on the side, not the center of his face. And those beady bug eyes make him look like Barney Rubble.

Isondill

06-20-2005, 09:04 PM

Foster's has not "Jumped the Shark". Hopefully, It never will. The PPG's eventually did and I would hate to see this follow in the same footsteps... This is a great show. Yes, some of the episodes are so-so but most of them have been hillarious.

Fan of Sponge

06-20-2005, 09:22 PM

Foster's has never jumped shark. I have enjoyed some of the last few episodes like the imaginary friend Cheese, the episode where Bloo raises money for a new roof, and Frankie, My Dear. Plus the show is still in its first season.

Bendy was created by Slade.:p

don Jaime

06-20-2005, 10:34 PM

No. Foster's is currently the best cartoon in production. What an odd question.

Mr Cat Dog

06-21-2005, 03:12 AM

Matt-a-Tastic

06-21-2005, 11:53 AM

Not crap exactly,0_o eh? Your not incharge of my opinons.
that would be a little too harsh. More like, presented in the wrong way and not learning from their mistakes. What really gets me annoyed is if they have a scene which drags on forever. Any episode that has that when it doesn't need it, I would deem bad without even looking at the rest.Nope, the bendy episode was just bad period IMO, it was just a bad concept :/
~They called him, bendy, bendy, bendy, a great big bastard...~I would't call him a bastard excatlly, but what I could call him I'm not allowed to say on Toonzone ¬_¬
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mrcatdog/Bendy.png....its like in my dreams *goes into a daze*
That slipknot doesn't seem to get tighter around the esophagus. And Bloo's mouth are always supposed to be on the side, not the center of his face. And those beady bug eyes make him look like Barney Rubble.Its not how its drawn. Its what its drawn :p
Bendy was created by Slade.:pNo, Bendy created Slade :p

Tak Mazé

06-21-2005, 12:00 PM

Your not incharge of my opinons.
Yet...

Matt-a-Tastic

06-21-2005, 01:10 PM

Oh..... so are you that bloke thats on the cliening above me with the opinon-transferale-machine....

....a better get a helmet on, before you get off your anti-gravity laptop and attack me with it....

(I am of course j/k)

Frank

06-23-2005, 07:00 AM

Yeah, if you want a show on CN that has jumped the shark, it's Ed, Edd and Eddy.
I have to agree with you. In season 3 the show seemed to be less enjoyable. Alot of the characters lost thier likability and believability. The reactions were too spasic. The scams started to get worn and tired. Some episodes are just too unpleasant for me to watch!

NozeNuggets

06-23-2005, 08:30 AM

"You're biased due to your inexplicable dislike towards {Ed Edd and Eddy}. It never jumped the shark."
Someone agreed with me. It's just that I hate the show for all the tea James Lipton has the rights to in India.

Frank

06-23-2005, 10:43 AM

Someone agreed with me. It's just that I hate the show for all the tea James Lipton has the rights to in India.
I just think EEnE in incredibly overrated.

maximumzero

06-23-2005, 10:44 AM

0_o eh? Your not incharge of my opinons.
Nope, the bendy episode was just bad period IMO, it was just a bad concept :/
I would't call him a bastard excatlly, but what I could call him I'm not allowed to say on Toonzone ¬_¬
....its like in my dreams *goes into a daze*
Its not how its drawn. Its what its drawn :p
No, Bendy created Slade :p
Temptation to re-draw Bendy picture better....rising.

Jave

06-23-2005, 01:13 PM

EE&E hasn't jumped the shark, but it probably will with the new seasons, though.

Season 3? That is not correct by a landslide. That's the point in which most of the fans agree the show got better.

Frank

06-23-2005, 01:27 PM

EE&E hasn't jumped the shark, but it probably will with the new seasons, though.

Season 3? That is not correct by a landslide. That's the point in which most of the fans agree the show got better.Got better? For me it got worse and less enjoyable. It's a task for me to watch anymore.:(

TrogdorNyimbhat

06-23-2005, 01:37 PM

Hate to go off topic here but seasons 1 & 2 of EEE sucked. Drawings, plots and voice acting in them were terrible!

crayon

06-23-2005, 08:27 PM

0_o eh? Your not incharge of my opinons.
Nope, the bendy episode was just bad period IMO, it was just a bad concept :/
I would't call him a bastard excatlly, but what I could call him I'm not allowed to say on Toonzone ¬_¬
....its like in my dreams *goes into a daze*
Its not how its drawn. Its what its drawn :p
No, Bendy created Slade :p

ohh, bendy created slade?
btw, that's such a nice picture. i complement the artist. maybe someday he(she ) will go far.

reviewer zim

06-24-2005, 01:20 AM

Fosters is fine IMO and should get better for the next year or two. If you think a show jumped the shark after just a handful of episodes then it was never that good to begin with.

Frank

06-24-2005, 02:46 AM

Hate to go off topic here but seasons 1 & 2 of EEE sucked. Drawings, plots and voice acting in them were terrible!
Some season 1 episodes of EEnE were slow and boring, but they're not a total loss. For me EEnE peaked in mid to late Season 2. It went downhill after early Season 3. While I agree that Edd's character got better in mid-Season 3, most of the others declined Sarah (too bratty), Ed (got too cowardly at times), Eddy (too unlikable), etc.

Ickis

06-24-2005, 09:29 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mrcatdog/Bendy.png

It's a bit crap since I hand-drew it, but the feeling and passion is still there.Oh no,your drawing isn't crap at all,it's pretty good.I don't think Fosters will ever jump the shark,its just too good.:D

Natey

06-24-2005, 10:19 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mrcatdog/Bendy.png

It's a bit crap since I hand-drew it, but the feeling and passion is still there.
keep em there forever. and let him rot. and its great. hopefully bendy sees it:evil:

~Nate~

Kurtman

06-27-2005, 06:19 PM

It probably has jumped in a couple episodes but just because it jumps a couple episodes doesn't mean you have to put down the entire series. That is,unless you already hate Foster's.

The_Caucasian

06-28-2005, 03:02 PM

In Happy Days, the Fonz jumped a shark, and the Fonz is the definition of cool. If Foster's jumped the shark, that would make it as cool as the Fonz. In conclusion, Foster's did jump the shark and I like typing "the Fonz."

P.S. Who started the phrase "jump the shark?" Why is it bad? I would prefer to jump the shark than letting it bite me.

This post was brought to you by the letters J for "joke" and S for "stupid."

NozeNuggets

06-28-2005, 05:49 PM

That reference was used in Sweet Stench of Success after the "What's The Deo?" clip.

EightOh

06-28-2005, 06:07 PM

Mr_Millions

07-02-2005, 12:17 AM

I don't think that Foster's will ever "jump the shark". I don't think there will ever be one single episode that people can point to as "There it is, the point of no return". It will probably go the way of other shows...the crappier episodes will eventually out number the good ones, people will stop watching, and it will be off the network.