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The Landstander
06-18-2005, 10:46 PM
AKA "Man's Path, A"
Seiken Izumi
06-19-2005, 12:05 AM
WTF I thought they arrested him last week???
DAAADDEE! DAAAAAAADDEE! YOU HAVE TO CALL ME DADDY!
LOL line of the day.
Youko Recca
06-19-2005, 12:09 AM
Keep watching...This has probally the best ending of an episode at this point in the show.
livingfruitvirus
06-19-2005, 12:09 AM
WTF I thought they arrested him last week???Episodes overlap each other. Yes it's confusing. I don't like how they did it that way without better indication.
Eddie G.
06-19-2005, 12:16 AM
DAAADDEE! DAAAAAAADDEE! YOU HAVE TO CALL ME DADDY!
LOL line of the day.There are some really gross connotations to that line.
Perfect Cell
06-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Well its "out there" to say the least. The Manga segments are quite enjoyable though
Mugen
06-19-2005, 12:22 AM
Wait, so what happened to the family he robbed?
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:23 AM
Thids is probably my second favorite episode of the show. :D
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:23 AM
Wait, so what happened to the family he robbed?
The parents...he left tied up...
don't want to think about the daughter....
Perfect Cell
06-19-2005, 12:26 AM
What the huuuuuuuh? :confused:
Mugen
06-19-2005, 12:26 AM
Lil Slugger... was taken down by a shoe.
Railith
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
The guy loves his manga and his strippers, truely a noble man. He also likes going after old ladies purses and commiting other small crimes that he is suprisingly good at.
Lil' Slugger got owned, didn't see that one coming.
Seiken Izumi
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
That cliffhanger is just mean.
Rabi~en~Rose
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
this one is pretty slow and the bad cop character isnt as likable as ones we've seen so far. but the ending wow :eek: lil slugger got beat good! a poor episode with a good end equals so-so
Animeforever'04
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
lmao! lil slugger slugged!:D
Jack Frenzy
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
My God, he beaned Lil Slugger!
OK - I did not see that coming AT ALL. The look on Sluggers face when he got up was PRICELESS.
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
The guy loves his manga and his strippers, truely a noble man. He also likes going after old ladies purses and commiting other small crimes that he is suprisingly good at.
Lil' Slugger got owned, didn't see that one coming.
I love that scene. Definitely OWNED. :eek:
Eddie G.
06-19-2005, 12:27 AM
Holy crap! The episode is my favorite so far, and the ending... just... holy crap.
KuwabaraTheMan
06-19-2005, 12:28 AM
Wow, he just beat the crap out of Lil' Slugger.
Timmay
06-19-2005, 12:29 AM
Ok.. i'm going to go ahead and call this lil slugger fake... the real lil slugger would knock you the **** out!
Crimefighter
06-19-2005, 12:30 AM
I didn't expect the slugger to be caught until about episode 12 or 13. Unless this one is NOT the one but a mere copycat.
Mr. Pedro
06-19-2005, 12:30 AM
He whooped that kid's ass. Great twist. :cool:
JShaggy
06-19-2005, 12:30 AM
Lil' Slugger got owned, didn't see that one coming.I didn't expect him to go running scared once the guy regained consciousness. It looks like "Lil' Slugger" became the victim this time.
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:31 AM
Ok.. i'm going to go ahead and call this lil slugger fake... the real lil slugger would knock you the **** out!
"Real" and "fake" are just so simplistic to apply to anything in Satoshi Kon anime. Anyone whose seen his other works should realize how irrelevant THAT all is.
Mr_Millions
06-19-2005, 12:31 AM
Huh. He got caught. When a poster yesterday put "Li'l Slugger is caught" in a spoiler box, I thought they were joking. (So it didn't really ruin it for me).
This show is really, really good. Not that it doesn't make me uncomfortable, it does. But that has nothing to do with quality.
To be honest, I'm just glad that Li'l Slugger isn't simply "an idea" or a spirit or some crap like that.
EDIT- Reading the above post makes me a little concerned. I guess it will be handled well, at least. I guess I need to stick to western mysteries and Detective Conan to avoid mind trips...
Just gotta wait until next week now...(yeah, I'm sure that'll clear everything up).
Wolfie~Giri
06-19-2005, 12:32 AM
lol slugger got beat down bad.
Sorry, but that whole manga relation thing was hilarious.
Excuse me for my abrupt sense of humor.
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:32 AM
I didn't expect the slugger to be caught until about episode 12 or 13. Unless this one is NOT the one but a mere copycat.
"Victim of the week" ends with this episode for the most part,
NewLib
06-19-2005, 12:32 AM
I think its something different than Lil' Slugger being fake. Think about it. Each character was made better off by the sluggings. The girl in the first episode got an excuse for her deadline, the boy got out of being hounded for looking like Lil' Slugger (the other boy got away from the wrath of the first boy), and the split personality girl got rid of her split personality.
Being attacked by Lil' Slugger there would not of helped the guy out at all. He would of been caught with that evidence and he be pinned to all those robbings. The only thing that could get him out his debt was catching Lil' Slugger.
Delthayre
06-19-2005, 12:32 AM
Ok.. i'm going to go ahead and call this lil slugger fake... the real lil slugger would knock you the **** out! I think so too. It just doesn't feel right, especially the way we got a good look at his face this time. It somehow didn't feel right. The fact that he executed the attack so innefectually and lost it when the cop came at him cinched it off.
Besides, it's not even halfway through the series.
I suspect that the poor twit who got the snot beat out of him was a copycat. It's certainly something else than what it seems to be, at least.
SirLemming
06-19-2005, 12:35 AM
So the guy went insane from watching The Mask too many times? "SOMEBODY STOP MEEEEEE!"
Okay, the ending was great. But other than that, I'm really starting to turn on this show, man. I really liked the first two episodes, but the third one and this one were really boring. It's like the episode is just one idea. Last week's was a bit more interesting, I suppose. I mean, it's just... Some guy I've never heard of commits crimes to help his family. Why should I care?
With the first episode, it was interesting because, well, it was the first episode. Introducing Little Slugger and all that. With the second episode, they developed the previously unknown character, showing his descent from totally well-adjusted to totally insane. With these past two episodes it's just been static. A person with a problem. There's the initial twist of seeing what's going on with this person, and the ending twist with Little Slugger being captured, but the other 20 minutes or so really did nothing for me. In either tonight's episode or last week's.
Seiken Izumi
06-19-2005, 12:40 AM
Hmm, well Lil' Slugger always freed his victims from their paranoia/problems. The fact that this person didn't might prove that he isn't Lil' Slugger.
Or it may prove that the fact that he was captured freed the man.
Ouch, brain freeze.
jethrek
06-19-2005, 12:42 AM
Hmm, well Lil' Slugger always freed his victims from their paranoia/problems. The fact that this person didn't might prove that he isn't Lil' Slugger.
Or it may prove that the fact that he was captured freed the man.
Ouch, brain freeze.
I like to think the latter. Catching Lil Slugger broke the cycle for him.
Whoa. Did that guy actually rape and kill the daughter of that family he robbed?
MegaJ
06-19-2005, 12:47 AM
Whoa. Did that guy actually rape and kill the daughter of that family he robbed?
I think he just raped her.
Shnay
06-19-2005, 12:47 AM
I didn't like this episode as much as the last two, but I seem to be alone* in that. The ending was great, and it pretty much shot down my theory on who/what Li'l Slugger really is...or so it would seem. The truth is often different from what appears on the surface, so it's likely that this capture (especially so early on in the series) is not quite what it sounds like. I'm very interested in seeing more about Li'l Slugger, which was something I didn't really care about after the first two episodes.
I didn't think this episode was as strong as the episode focusing on Uichi or Harumi because this character just wasn't as interesting to me. There are some brief glimpses into some very interesting psychological stuff about the character, the "You must call me Daddy!" aspect, but most of the story around him didn't hold my interest that well. I'm not saying everything should be spelled out about these characters (I actually prefer the "brief glimpses" approach) but in the end, he just didn't feel as fleshed out as past characters. The characters in this show are never explored in too much depth, since their stories mainly take place over a single episode, but so far there has been a good deal of character development packed into each episode. This character didn't stack up to the others, in my opinion.
I also felt the tension, which was so strong in the last two episodes, was missing from this one. I was really involved in the stories of Uichi and Harumi, but (with the exception of the house break in) I really didn't feel any tense moments that lead up to the Li'l Slugger encounter. It seemed like they tried to rush the tension/breakdown stuff so that Li'l Slugger would show up, and it didn't feel as beliveable as it did in past episodes. I think more scenes taking place after his muggings or after being shaken down for money could have helped this. If they developed his desperation and frustration more, then his breakdown would have been more impactful.
Anyway, I still enjoyed it more than most TV. But by the standard of quality this show has already set, I thought it was a bit of a let down. That said, I'm still really excited about the next one.
*Edit: Not anymore. I gotta type these things faster.
Eddie G.
06-19-2005, 12:48 AM
I think so too. It just doesn't feel right, especially the way we got a good look at his face this time. It somehow didn't feel right. The fact that he executed the attack so innefectually and lost it when the cop came at him cinched it off.I doubt it's a fake for a few reasons.
(1) The victims's connected to the other people, it just seems odd that a fake Lil' Slugger would just so happen to come upon someone connected to the real Lil' Slugger's victims.
(2) He looks exactly like Lil' Slugger, no one really has a good idea what Lil' Slugger looks like so it doesn't make sense for him to just so happen to be able to make himself look like someone he's never seen before.
(3) The demonic yellow his eyes seem to turn for a second and the way he just seems to roll in out of nowhere matches the inhuman nature of LS.
Anyway I agree with the reason that Lil' Slugger was caught being that was what needed to happen to help the cop's life, it both saved him and made him into the hero he could no longer pretend to be.
Seiken Izumi
06-19-2005, 12:49 AM
I didn't like this episode as much as the last two, but I seem to be alone in that.Nah, I agree with you. If not for the ending, I wouldn't have liked it compared to the other episodes.
The Landstander
06-19-2005, 12:51 AM
Probably the weakest episode so far, but had its moments (namely the ending, which I didn't see coming at all). The guy just wasn't as interesting as the previous characters.
So it seems Lil' Slugger is real......uh, unless he isn't. Eh who knows.
edit: what Shnay said >=(
Mugen
06-19-2005, 12:51 AM
I think he just raped her.
Woah, really. I knew he did something, but I didn't think it was THAT....
Mr_Millions
06-19-2005, 12:53 AM
Whoa. Did that guy actually rape and kill the daughter of that family he robbed?
God, I hope not. After that scence I just said "Nuh uh....No he did not just do what I think he did..."
By the by: Was that Kanji on the bilboard important? Or was it just an ad for the manga? I wish there were translations...oh well.
Eddie G.
06-19-2005, 12:55 AM
Whoa. Did that guy actually rape and kill the daughter of that family he robbed?It was basically implied in the episode that the guy had a fantasy about having sex with his daughter, so yeah he probably molested or raped the girl because she was the closest thing to the fantasy. I doubt he killed her though but really what he did is basically as horrible as you want to imagine it was.
Fatneck
06-19-2005, 12:58 AM
By the by: Was that Kanji on the bilboard important? Or was it just an ad for the manga? I wish there were translations...oh well. You mean at the beginning? That was just the title of the episode.
Timmay
06-19-2005, 12:59 AM
And you wonder why this show gets bad ratings... this is a painful show to sit through.
Sandoz
06-19-2005, 01:00 AM
I'm thinking it was a copycat. It may be worth noting that the old man who writes the equations wasn't seen in this episode. Since the attack was not "predicted" the cop might not have been a victim of the real Lil' Slugger.
This episode left me unsatisfied as well. Outside of the ending and the manga interludes, there really wasn't anything interesting about the episode. As far as the protagonists go, the cop was the worst so far. I couldn't care about his plight at all, and--ending aside--it felt like the show was falling into a pattern and wearing itself thin.
There are some really gross connotations to that line.
Connotations that will be exploited in a later episode.
Shnay
06-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Any thoughts on how this stacks up to the rest of the series, Ben? Is this one of the weaker "character studies" or is this about par for the rest of the series? You seem to be a big fan, so I'd be interested to know what you thought of it. Give us something more than just teasing us with spoilers. ;)
Seiken Izumi
06-19-2005, 01:11 AM
And you wonder why this show gets bad ratings... this is a painful show to sit through.That's...very true :(.
Pizzaguy24
06-19-2005, 01:20 AM
And you wonder why this show gets bad ratings... this is a painful show to sit through.
Tis a good thing I use a recliner this time
But like everybody esle, I too was suprise by the ending. The way lil'slugger got owned reminded how my mom...on second thought, lets not go there:sweat:
PickHut
06-19-2005, 01:29 AM
Eh, I couldn't get into it that much. It had its moments, but I got kinda bored for most of it. I'm gonna go with the side that said that he really didn't get Lil' Slugger (I'm still thinking he's not even real), but got someone else instead.
I give A Man's Path a C+.
remnant
06-19-2005, 01:44 AM
I really shouldn't be saying anything since I have seen this series already, but the night is young and that cliffhanger was just way to big for me to not spill a little beans.
Is that Slugger real? I wish I could tell you, but knowing that will completely ruin next week for you.
The chick was raped. In front of her parents. It's commented on later in the series.
There are more people you meet. However the victim of the week plot pretty much dies here.
The mystery continues to grow and it wil become a lot more weird and (from your own personal viewpoint) sick and scary.
I predict by the end of the shows run Paronia Agent will stand alongside Cowboy Bebop as one of AS best series.
NewLib
06-19-2005, 01:47 AM
I have one question. Is that guy's daughter going to show up at any time?
JetMaster5
06-19-2005, 01:47 AM
Too bad it will not stand along with Cowboy Bebop as one of the best anime ratings series ever. Really, I don't see this gathering many ratings. Which is a pity. You don't see this kind of show in cable very often.
Fatneck
06-19-2005, 01:52 AM
I have one question. Is that guy's daughter going to show up at any time? yes, she'll be featured in episode 6
remnant
06-19-2005, 01:52 AM
I have one question. Is that guy's daughter going to show up at any time? :)
Seriously I wish I could tell ,but so much of this show depends on you entering it with as little knowledge as all.
To be honest one of the flaws of PA is the more you watch the smarter you get and **** doesn't suprise you as much as before. Thats was one of the big things with this episode. It followed a very similar arch as last week so for a lot of people the story fell flat.
Sandoz
06-19-2005, 02:10 AM
The chick was raped. In front of her parents. It's commented on later in the series. Does the cop get busted for it?
remnant
06-19-2005, 02:14 AM
Does the cop get busted for it? Again :)
Ferquin
06-19-2005, 02:39 AM
Connotations that will be exploited in a later episode.Oh, god. That was the first time I actually felt sick with the character when I saw that. I'm not usually affected by such things but man, that was just f---ed up.
Oh, and the sound this week... the sound of construction blending into taiko drums. It's so manly! GRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
li_mangaman
06-19-2005, 02:40 AM
That whole rape part was disturbing. I really wanted to see little slugger beat the hell out of that guy after what he did, and I was suprised that the only character I wanted to get hurt, didn't. sigh...
Youko Recca
06-19-2005, 02:58 AM
Oh, god. That was the first time I actually felt sick with the character when I saw that. I'm not usually affected by such things but man, that was just f---ed up.
Oh yeah I remember that now. I feel like such a bastard, I initially laughed before realizing.
JetMaster5
06-19-2005, 03:33 AM
That's cause the rapist was funny. "I want you to call me DADDEEE!" It was funny and disgusting and sick at the same time.
crayon
06-19-2005, 03:38 AM
i'm pretty sure this 'batter up thing' will really like, get to people.
http://66.93.48.239/pics/maromi-kicked.jpg
http://66.93.48.239/pics/slugger-beaned.jpg
This week's horoscope for solidified figments of Tsukiko's imagination: Avoid footwear.
I'm on board with the copycat thing, too. I think come next week we'll find out that this instance of Slugger has solid alibis for the other attacks. After all, Li'l Slugger is an entire generation, you don't take him down with just one shoe, however well thrown.
You know, I was feeling kind of sorry for the cop right after the bossman started leaning on him, when he was looking at his house. Sure, he was up to some criminal mischief there, but it didn't look all that bad, he had found a relatively healthy outlet for the thing with his daughter and all that. There are worse out there than him. And then he started eyeing that old woman in the bank. And then things got worse.
And then he became a hero. There ain't no justice.
TamaNeko
06-19-2005, 04:05 AM
The chick was raped. In front of her parents. It's commented on later in the series.
What episode? Is it just a single-line comment, or do we learn more about what happened to the family and the girl? And what happens to that ****ed up police piece of ****? Spoilers are welcome, and I'd just like to know if that bastard gets the crap beat out of him later on. :mad:
I just woke back up (Scryed kinda knocked me out XD)
But looking back on the situation, suddenly that original daddy line isnt very funny anymore putting into context what actually happened. Its now turned VERY creepy. Wasnt my favorite of the eps so far - most of it felt weaker in places - but I'll be darned if that very strong ending didnt totally catch me off guard.
Gruntling
06-19-2005, 06:32 AM
I had originally assumed that this episode would be so-so; not like a few of the previous eye-catching ones. I was completely wrong! The story behind the policeman was interesting, but the ending caught me off-guard! I thought Lil' Slugger had done it again and got away and we'd see some other character be tormented by him next time, but no! The policeman got up and through his shoe at Slugger knocking him out! I for sure wasn't expecting it, and it leaves a real cliffhanger at the end.
I give A Man's Path an A.
Sanius
06-19-2005, 09:34 AM
I really enjoyed this episode because it was sort of a prequal, in a way. I wondered how lil' slugger was caught, and then they show us how!
slugger's impression was hilarious when he got the crap beaten out of him, I really cannot wait for the next episode. :)
BTW, can someone explain whats up with the image at the top explaining that toon zone is 2 words not 1? And can someone tell me what the full card said?
BTW, can someone explain whats up with the image at the top explaining that toon zone is 2 words not 1? And can someone tell me what the full card said?Now THAT I can answer. The card basicly said "Our evaluations of AS message boards", and compared a bunch of message boards to neighborhoods. One of them was "Toonzone: Gated community".
Master Moron
06-19-2005, 12:54 PM
So the guy went insane from watching The Mask too many times? "SOMEBODY STOP MEEEEEE!"
Okay, the ending was great. But other than that, I'm really starting to turn on this show, man. I really liked the first two episodes, but the third one and this one were really boring. It's like the episode is just one idea. Last week's was a bit more interesting, I suppose. I mean, it's just... Some guy I've never heard of commits crimes to help his family. Why should I care?
I was under the impression that he really didn't have a family. After all, it never showed his family. I was under the impression that the fact that he said he had a family was somehow associated for his fetish for women calling him daddy. Kind of like the way he reads the manga and associates himself with the manga character even though his motivations are completely different. He associates himself with a father figure even though his motivations are completely unfatherly. He kind of has a twisted sense of reality. At least, that's what I got out of the episode.
Except the detective had met his family, remember when they were talking about his daughter's age and "She was still a kid the last time I saw her."
She'd be a good candidate to be attacked by Slugger herself. We didn't see her this week, so I doubt she'll be a focus next week, but she still might show up.
Ferquin
06-19-2005, 01:09 PM
That's cause the rapist was funny. "I want you to call me DADDEEE!" It was funny and disgusting and sick at the same time.Oh yeah I remember that now. I feel like such a bastard, I initially laughed before realizing.Happy Father's Day!
And what happens to that ****ed up police piece of ****? Spoilers are welcome, and I'd just like to know if that bastard gets the crap beat out of him later on.He gets what's coming to him. But I don't want to spoil it. Just know there is some justice, albeit bittersweet.
silvanoir
06-19-2005, 01:26 PM
Watching it, this episode made me feel skeezy.
What an ugly man with an ungly personality and an ugly life.
I wanted to see lil' slugger beat him down, not the other way around.
I liked all the other epsidoes up to this one because I had at least a shred of sympathy for the characters (except for the sleaze reporter), but not this time.
animePWNS
06-19-2005, 01:39 PM
I guess I'm the first to mention that one scene where Hirusawa's (the cop) pink mask is lying on the ground crumpled in such a way that it looks like Maromi's face. That's the first time I saw Maromi in something that wasn't a piece of Maromi merchandise. It reminds me of the recurring smiley face in Watchmen. Maromi is everywhere.
Lil' Slugger ain't going down like that. I read the backs of the DVDs at Best Buy the other day (and saw at least one spoilerish image). If you've played some of today's RPGs, you know how "just when you think it's over, you find it's only just begun". I'm getting that same feeling.
I think that guy will get whacked by the real deal later on. That one part in the opening shows the order of eight of the characters: Tsukiko, Mawazu, Usho, Ichi, Harumi/Maria, Hirusawa and the woman in the hat who hasn't been introduced yet.
Speaking of Watchmen and the armageddon scenes in PA's opening, I wonder if:
Lil' Slugger or whoever's really behind all this--perhaps Maromi?--will wipe millions of people out by the end of series to save everyone else in some way?
If AS is true to us "whiners", PA starts getting subtitles next week. It's also on an hour later, from what I hear. It doesn't matter to me, though. It reminds of back in the mid-90s when I was watching Tales from the Crypt. It was moved from 11-12 to 12-1 at night, but I still watched it.
Lord Dalek
06-19-2005, 01:54 PM
I didn't expect the slugger to be caught until about episode 12 or 13. Unless this one is NOT the one but a mere copycat. It is.
Next weeks episode is my favorite.
adoptedBatpuppy
06-19-2005, 02:36 PM
Can somebody explain to me in excrusiating detail what this show is about? Especially, the last two episodes including this one. I would be really greatfull.
Freedom Fighter
06-19-2005, 03:07 PM
Irawaka, the cop forced to go against his principles after being confronted by the 'mob' who demands him for money.
This episode was only so-so. I'll also say that the ending was the saving grace. I was waiting for Lil' Slugger to peg Irawaka... what I didn't expect is for Irawaka to peg Lil' Slugger! Reading the other posts here, though, it makes sense why it happened.
7.5 out of 10 for "A Man's Path."
TeenTitansGO!
06-19-2005, 04:11 PM
I'm hoping that by watching the rest of PA, I'll understand this story. Right now, however, my brain is confused. Maria/Harumi, Irakawa, Lil' SLugger, Uichi (favorite), the fat kid, the old lady, the detectives, and that two milllion guy are getting easily confused. Yeah. I'm lost.
PS: HE WOOPED LIL' SLUGGER!
Master Moron
06-19-2005, 05:38 PM
Can somebody explain to me in excrusiating detail what this show is about? Especially, the last two episodes including this one. I would be really greatfull.
The first four episodes were about four different people. At the end of the episode, Little Slugger hit them all with a baseball bat. The detectives are trying to figure out who Little Slugger is. You have to watch to find out why Little Slugger is hitting people and who little Slugger is.
The victims on episodes 2, 3, and 4 were related to each other. The kid who got whacked on episode 2 got tutored by the woman with a split personality from episode 3. The woman from episode 3 serviced the guy from this episode as a prostitute. I don't know what the connection is between the two people who got whacked on the first episode and the rest of the people, though I imagine we'll find out eventually.
jethrek
06-19-2005, 06:30 PM
Can somebody explain to me in excrusiating detail what this show is about? Especially, the last two episodes including this one. I would be really greatfull. It's about the strange surreal serial attacker Lil Slugger. Watch and ride.
For those that wanted to know about the justice thing with this cop:
Well, first I'll note the drugs he was given pretty thoroughly screwed him up into doing things he would not have done otherwise, not that that clears him...
Second, when justice is dished out in this show it is never by the establishment. He gets "a" punishment loater on, although possibly nothing like what the sliemball deserves
Keep in mind, you're not supposed to like Hirawa, and this is the first real "arc" episode in it. This show is simply doesn't take the course the first four eps prime you for...
Oh, and as for the "is he real" spoiler crowd, I said it before but here's my take...
Real and fake are not distinctioons in Satoshi Kon anime. There is no difference between the real Lil Slugger and the fake one.
ClockStomper
06-19-2005, 08:57 PM
What dosen't make sense to me with the copycat theory is why does this supposed fake look exactly like Lil' Slugger? We've seen more than just glimpses of the attacker, there's no way they coincidently dress exactly alike and have the same face. My theory is that there's more than one Lil' Slugger (twins taking turns, perhaps?)
As for the "victim" of the week, I think he already had a predisposition for rape, he probably abused his daughter, and now that she's gone to college, the sicko was reliving his abusing with hookers and now with that girl.
Shnay
06-19-2005, 09:36 PM
As for the "victim" of the week, I think he already had a predisposition for rape, he probably abused his daughter, and now that she's gone to college, the sicko was reliving his abusing with hookers and now with that girl.My interpretation was that he fantasized about having sex with his daughter a lot, but never actually did it. I think up until this episode, he probably had his desires under control enough to only play out the fantasy with prostitutes, and never actually touched his daughter or any other young girls. However, it doesn't seem to take that much for him to lose that control, and when he does lose it, he acts on his desires in the worst possible way.
I'm not basing any of this on a whole heck of a lot, it's just the impression I get.
Behonkiss
06-19-2005, 10:20 PM
Formal request for a screencap of the expression on Lil' Slugger's face right after, "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!"
Eddie G.
06-19-2005, 10:37 PM
As for the "victim" of the week, I think he already had a predisposition for rape, he probably abused his daughter, and now that she's gone to college, the sicko was reliving his abusing with hookers and now with that girl.I don't think he had a predisposition to rape as rape is most often rooted in violence, humiliation, and/or superiority/control. The guy didn't really want to hurt or humiliate the girl, he just wanted to come close to fulfilling his fantasy of having sex with his daughter.
Adding onto what Shnay said about his reason for going to hookers being that he was unable to have sex with his daughter, I think the theme of the episode would exclude the idea of him actually abusing his daughter. The character basically took on two cosmetic roles of being a police officer/hero and being a family man/father. The truth is that he contradicts these roles by helping mob bosses and holding a perverse fantasy about his daughter, but as long as no one knows what he does with the mob or hookers he considers himself fine. Actually it seems that as long as nobody knows his secrets then his role as a hero and family man can still exist and be validated. That was basically his problem towards the end of the episode, he was becoming unable to hide the truth about himself and thus was unable to continue in holding the belief that he was a hero and family man. If he were to abuse his daughter then his daughter would be aware that he's a bastard and that would really break up the whole theme of the episode.
Formal request for a screencap of the expression on Lil' Slugger's face right after, "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!" His face is pretty plastic in that half-second. How about one of these?
Slugger 1 (http://66.93.48.239/pics/slugger1.jpg)
Slugger 2 (http://66.93.48.239/pics/slugger2.jpg)
Slugger 3 (http://66.93.48.239/pics/slugger3.jpg)
Behonkiss
06-19-2005, 11:40 PM
You are my hero of the day. That last shot is gold.
remnant
06-20-2005, 06:18 AM
Okay that's it. I'm spilling the beans on Lil Slugger.
that is Lil Slugger. He is easily the most ****ed up guy in th series right now. Make sure to play a Legend of Zelda game before you watch next week
Oh and if you think that cop is perverted now. Well wait for episode 6
nothing like a healthy father-daughter relationship
JetMaster5
06-20-2005, 12:08 PM
Happy Father's Day!
Kind of ironic, isn't it? :anime:
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