New Miguzi lineup, starting June 20.

[One Radical Dude]

Starting Monday (a change in the weekday lineup), here is what is listed on the CN website:

5 PM - Krypto
5:30 - Winx
6 - Totally Spies
6:30 - Teen Titans

Times listed are Eastern.

[Draft]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

cn has gone over the deep end with krypto and the network, cn should be called Krypto... and other junk we don't care about

[King_of_doom]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

cn has gone over the deep end with krypto and the network, cn should be called Krypto... and other junk we don't care about
i was thinking the same thing

[EscaflownePilot]

O... M... G...

They do realize that Krypto isn't really suitable for the upper end of their 6-11 and 9-14 demos, don't they?

And at what point did it become an action cartoon? I know it's not really a full-out comedy per say, but I really don't consider it an action cartoon.

You know, I actually did really like the show when it first started, but now I have a pretty strong hatred for it just because it's being whored so much.

Having Winx on there and in the morning was bad enough. Now this!
If this is the best alternative they can do, then bring back the double Static Shock, please!

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

I don't think there was ever a bigger overkill in TV history, except for the (imaginary) non-stop Fish Channel.

[rhudson765]

I love Krypto but i'd rather have Rave Master in this time slot.

[CNfan]

O... M... G...

They do realize that Krypto isn't really suitable for the upper end of their 6-11 and 9-14 demos, don't they?

And at what point did it become an action cartoon? I know it's not really a full-out comedy per say, but I really don't consider it an action cartoon.

You know, I actually did really like the show when it first started, but now I have a pretty strong hatred for it just because it's being whored so much.

Having Winx on there and in the morning was bad enough. Now this!
If this is the best alternative they can do, then bring back the double Static Shock, please!


Miguzi isn't targeting 9-14....they're targeting boys and girls 6-11.....if Krypto fits that and has action and comedy (another prerequisite of Miguzi), then why not put the show there? It's a hit for them. STATIC was softening. And it's not ANOTHER run....they just moved the 4p strip to 5p....no big whoop.....

[PeppeRaskell1]

And CN says that this is a show for little kids?

Yeah, right. And I'm Supergirl (Streaky the Cat's original owner in the old 1960's Supergirl comics.)

[Wanted]

Starting Monday (a change in the weekday lineup), here is what is listed on the CN website:

5 PM - Krypto
5:30 - Winx
6 - Totally Spies
6:30 - Teen Titans

Times listed are Eastern.Krypto? That show... soon enough, Miguzi's going to end up like Australia's. Half-comedy and half-action. Just the way I want it. And, then, the comedy will override the action shows (most of them), leading to a new Miguzi. A new era. A new time. A new breed... of angry forumgoers.

Well, it seems that Cartoon Network doesn't care where Totally Spies! goes anymore, just as long as it's on the block.

Sketch Style
Miguzi - Monday-Friday

5:00PM - Jackie Chan Adventures
5:30PM - Totally Spies!
6:00PM - Code Lyoko
6:30PM - Teen Titans

Miguzi - Weekends

5:00PM - Rave Master
5:30PM - Teen Titans
6:00PM - DICE
6:30PM - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

I honestly have no idea why Cartoon Network thinks Miguzi cannot survive without Teen Titans. After all, it's the only show on the block that has never been removed from any spot it ever occupied. It's just been shoved around a bit, but never removed. Unless they're thinking like Nick...

After all, Miguzi could survive without Teen Titans and Totally Spies!, as it will have to one day (you're going to hate me for this):

Miguzi

5:00PM - (famous ratings-garner 1)
5:30PM - (filler 1)
6:00PM - (filler 2)
6:30PM - (famous ratings-garner 2)

But, of course, let's try inserting shows into those slots. How about that new show coming next year?

2006 Schedule

5:00PM - Totally Spies!/Winx Club
5:25PM - Princess Natasha
5:30PM - Wulin Warriors/Yu-Gi-Oh! GX/Code Lyoko
6:00PM - Electric Girl/Juniper Lee
6:30PM - Teen Titans/Ben 10/Fantastic Four

Juniper Lee will have enough episodes by next year, so it may well end up on Miguzi. Krypto has just opened the door for some nice Cartoon Network Originals (even though it may not be one itself) to come to the block.

Miguzi could become more. All they have to do is secure some shows as Miguzi exclusives (which has yet to be done), and make sure that said shows grab the target audience. I don't know. It looks like Cartoon Network has a lot to mold Miguzi with next year. Unless, some of these shows are going to Toonami/Sunday nights and I don't know it. Ben 10 sounds like a Toonami show. Fantastic Four would be perfect for this block. Princess Natasha could air on Miguzi for four weeks and repeat on Sundays between every show (four total, for a total of three shorts shown). Wulin Warriors isn't going to fit on Toonami, so Miguzi is its only place to go. The rest is history.

However, the schedule could be rearranged:

5:00PM - Wulin Warriors/Yu-Gi-Oh! GX/Code Lyoko
5:30PM - Totally Spies!/Winx Club
5:58PM - Princess Natasha
6:02PM - Electric Girl/Juniper Lee
6:30PM - Teen Titans/Ben 10/Fantastic Four

[EscaflownePilot]

Miguzi isn't targeting 9-14....they're targeting boys and girls 6-11.....if Krypto fits that and has action and comedy (another prerequisite of Miguzi), then why not put the show there? Because my point still stands that it's not much of an action show at all, and still only hits the lower half of even the 6-11 age group. It's fine throughout weekday mornings, but putting it on Miguzi is really just annoying. I like the show, don't get me wrong, but CN is putting it EVERYWHERE including places where it doesn't at all fit in.

It's a hit for them. So is Foster's Home for Imaginery Friends, but that doesn't mean it should be put on blocks where it doesn't belong just to make some quick ratings...

[AlphaPrime]

*yawn* Daytime CN has been dead to me for awhile, if they want to keep the kiddies coming let em, though it is annoying and sadning.

[hobbyfan]

Miguzi isn't targeting 9-14....they're targeting boys and girls 6-11.....if Krypto fits that and has action and comedy (another prerequisite of Miguzi), then why not put the show there? It's a hit for them. STATIC was softening. And it's not ANOTHER run....they just moved the 4p strip to 5p....no big whoop.....
This is an example of what I was talking about. They're taking Krypto, which is hot right now, and shoving it down our throats. It was meant to be a morning show when it started. The ratings got such that the nerds in the programming department decided that they needed to give it extra runs, when they don't have enough eps to support it!! Miguzi's been ruined by the nerds because all they see are dollar signs.

I can understand Static leaving the weekday Miguzi block, since the series has cycled through 3-4 times, but why not bring back TMNT or Code Lyoko, which were part of Miguzi at the start? More proof that the nerds are on crack.:mad:

[Natey]

Krypto. holy cheese... CN HAS GONE LOW. kryto on miguzi is going to make me puke.. o wait i dont have CN

~Nate~ (in nebraska not south dakota)

[Kagetsu]

I'm not surprised to see Krypto on Miguzi. I'm surprised Teen Titans is still there now that all the other shows are aimed at the under 10 demo.

[EscaflownePilot]

You know, they may as well just do away with Miguzi, or expand Miguzi to the entire afternoon for that matter, since shows like Krypto air on Miguzi while shows like TMNT and Code Lyoko have/do air(ed) right outside of Miguzi. The block carries no meaning, now.

[livingfruitvirus]

Gee. I thought Miguzi was supposed to be an action block. There's already 2 lite action shows, but this one's lite LITE action.

[Movie-Brat]

Interesting line up, I like Krypto the Superdog.

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I love Krypto but i'd rather have Rave Master in this time slot.
C'mon Krypto belongs with the Baby Looney Tunes! It is a younger kids show then let's say Teen Titans.

[fanboy]

Ah! This remembers me when Hamtaro was on Toonami::evil:

[CNfan]

This is an example of what I was talking about. They're taking Krypto, which is hot right now, and shoving it down our throats. It was meant to be a morning show when it started. The ratings got such that the nerds in the programming department decided that they needed to give it extra runs, when they don't have enough eps to support it!! Miguzi's been ruined by the nerds because all they see are dollar signs.

I can understand Static leaving the weekday Miguzi block, since the series has cycled through 3-4 times, but why not bring back TMNT or Code Lyoko, which were part of Miguzi at the start? More proof that the nerds are on crack.:mad:

They are bringing back LYOKO.....but new eps won't be available until Fall....I wouldn't be surprised if Krypto was just a summertime stunt....

[Sketch]

I expect Fantastic Four and Ben 10 will premiere on Toonami. Though they probably should go strait to Miguzi. I don't think Wulin will rerun on Miguzi. Unless maybe it's on weekends only. I rather wonder if Wulin will even get more than one run of it's 13 episode order.

Another thing to think about... KWB weekdays will be gone in 2006. That means CN will most likely have Xiaolin Showdown and Pokemon Advance. Both could work on Miguzi for a stint. Actually Pokemon Advance would be great show for Miguzi to air. That also means a 1 hour expansion is highly feasible.

[Daikun]

Okay so a show for 2-6 year olds is on a 6-11 year old block.
Exactly.

Two to SIX year olds on a SIX to eleven block. The connection is fairly obvious.

[King_of_doom]

I expect Fantastic Four and Ben 10 will premiere on Toonami. Though they probably should go strait to Miguzi. I don't think Wulin will rerun on Miguzi. Unless maybe it's on weekends only. I rather wonder if Wulin will even get more than one run of it's 13 episode order.

Another thing to think about... KWB weekdays will be gone in 2006. That means CN will most likely have Xiaolin Showdown and Pokemon Advance. Both could work on Miguzi for a stint. Actually Pokemon Advance would be great show for Miguzi to air. That also means a 1 hour expansion is highly feasible.
i don't like pokemon that much, but like you said it would in miguzi and Xiaolin Showdown too.

[Sketch]

That could explain some decisions for Toonami anyway...

Miguzi is pretty much the "flavor of the week" block. With the two constants being Totally Spies and Teen Titans.

It's also entirely pointless since everything the block airs also airs on another part of CN's line-up. And the block gets next to no premieres because of this. Especially now that Krypto has joined. Everything on Miguzi is overkill from a small or great degree. This is why Toonami was always so nice on weekdays. It aired stuff the rest of CN typically didn't. Well apparently "different" is not on the menu for CN these days since "different" doesn't get good 6-11 ratings. Chances are Krypto get's excellent 6-11 ratings and that's why it's on Miguzi. There are plenty of shows they could have aired instead of Krypto but they chose Krypto. It's such a waste... and I like Krypto. It's just on too often for only having 26 episodes.

Krypto is technically an action show in the same sense that Ozzy and Drix, Mucha Lucha and Xiaolin Showdown are... but it's still not a good choice for Miguzi.

Someone grow some brains and get the rest of X-Men: Evolution. That would be a great for Miguzi to air for a stint. Heck man... they should have just brought back Code LYOKO earlier for it's rerun so Zatch Bell could keep it's 4:30PM rerun slot (which I liked, and wish they still had when I missed Zatch last week).

[Donald Duck 12]

Someone grow some brains and get the rest of X-Men: Evolution. That would be a great for Miguzi to air for a stint.

I'm not sure. I would LOVE to see the Xavier Institute again, but I am not too sure it would work on Miguzi. Primetime is a better fit, but if it were to air again who cares where it's at!

Heck man... they should have just brought back Code LYOKO earlier for it's rerun so Zatch Bell could keep it's 4:30PM rerun slot (which I liked, and wish they still had when I missed Zatch last week).

LYOKO is rerunning this summer (for little Yoke) and its second season is coming in the fall (as previously mentioned). Zatch could work. I do think that Krypto is an interesting fit. Kind of when Totally Spies and Static first came on Miguzi and Teen Titans now. Good, and good on the block, but too much overkill.

And Toonmaster what are Princess Natasha, Electric Girl, and Ben 10? I never heard of those.

So since Toons put up some really decent schedules, I suppose I'll do one (half realistic/half fantasy). Here is for Winter 2006 after Kids' WB weekdays ends (in central time):

Monday-Thursdays
3:00 That MMMP Thing that Rabi~en Rose Pitches in Her Sig
3:30 Yu-Gi-Oh!
4:00 Hong Kong Phooey (C'mon! You know you want it on the gooz!)
4:30 Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiago? (CN really needs more ninties shows. And if Jetix gets sucess from Tick and FF this would be good for Miguzi to try)
5:00 Teen Titans (not on Toonami, not in Primetime)
5:30 Totally Spies

Fridays
3:00 SD Gundam Season 2
3:30 Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Season 2
4:00 Code: LYOKO Season 2 (Season 1 airing somewhere else on CN)
4:30 Duel Masters Season 3
5:00 Teen Titans (Premiere to the Gooz) Season 5
5:30 Winx Club Season 3 (or whatever they're on by winter)

Saturdays
3:00 SD Gundam Season 1
3:30 Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Season 1
4:00 PokeMon Chronicles (or other PokeMon)
4:30 Thunderforce
5:00 Fantastic Four
5:30 Winx Club Season 1 and 2

Sundays
3:00 Krypto the Superdog (We can let 1 Miguzi airing go by, right?)
3:30 Rave Master
4:00 PokeMon Chronicles (or other PokeMon)
4:30 Thunderforce
5:00 Fantastic Four
5:30 Static Shock

Maybe something like that would work?

Anyway, Krypto is just a stint like Megas, Rave, or Energon. Right?

[Zyzzybalubah]

:keeps saying to himself "At least there's Toonami and Adutl Swim": I understand this channel is trying to win kids over as much as they can, but now they're just getting riddiculous. Two words come to mind when I think of CN: Ratings Whores. I know a network will do a lot for ratings, but CN has been going WAY overboard as of late. The instant one show is underpar (Megas XLR, Ninja Turtles) A.S.A.P. another Teen Titans, another Static Shock, or another Totally Spies.

While I don't hate Krypto (in fact, it's a much better show than I was expecting) they're going run that show into the ground in no time (if they haven't done it for many already.)

Sorry for all the negativity, but sometimes the channe'ls decisions are REAL bad. Thinking about it now, maybe Krypto is fit for Miguzi? IMO Miguzi already looks more like a preschool block than an action block. :p

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

Sorry for all the negativity, but sometimes the channe'ls decisions are REAL bad. Thinking about it now, maybe Krypto is fit for Miguzi? IMO Miguzi already looks more like a preschool block than an action block. :pAgreed. You can't replace shows like TMNT, Static Shock and Megas for something like Krypto and still call it an action block.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

its really hard to still like Miguzi when its lineup is shifted like every month :yawn: Krypto is a great show but it really does not belong. the funny thing is last year everyone was asking for new Miguzi shows but not quite like this

[Eddy]

Krypto needs to have a bullet put in its head. :(

[Wanted]

Krypto is a he. And, do you remember what happened when they tried to shoot Superman? The bullet bounced off. So, what you mean to say is:
Krypto needs to have a bullet Kryptonite put in its his head.I expect Fantastic Four and Ben 10 will premiere on Toonami. Though they probably should go strait to Miguzi. I don't think Wulin will rerun on Miguzi. Unless maybe it's on weekends only. I rather wonder if Wulin will even get more than one run of it's 13 episode order.

Another thing to think about... KWB weekdays will be gone in 2006. That means CN will most likely have Xiaolin Showdown and Pokemon Advance. Both could work on Miguzi for a stint. Actually Pokemon Advance would be great show for Miguzi to air. That also means a 1 hour expansion is highly feasible.Fantastic Four would be just it for Miguzi. But, I doubt it, seeing as how this move was made. Ben 10, it could go either way.

Xiaolin Showdown is a good show, a ratings-garner, and Cartoon Network might have good use for it in the future.

Krypto is technically an action show in the same sense that Ozzy and Drix, Mucha Lucha and Xiaolin Showdown are... but it's still not a good choice for Miguzi.Xiaolin Showdown is more of an action show than any of the other shows listed there. Unless you mean "the same sense" as in "Warner Brothers Animation".

And Toonmaster what are Princess Natasha, Electric Girl, and Ben 10? I never heard of those.Princess Natasha is a series later coming to Cartoon Network (the miniseries imported from AOL), Electric Girl is a comic to be retrofitted for Cartoon Network air (as I think I heard; couldn't find the news post), and Ben 10 was just announced as coming to Cartoon Network next year. Most of these shows, if not all, were mentioned at Toon Zone News.

Miguzi already looks more like a preschool block than an action block.By this fall, they'll be calling it Tickle U. Surprise!

And, since the idea of another hour has been proposed, allow me to retrofit my schedules (I'm going to run off the two block "bugs"):

4:00PM - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
4:30PM - Electric Girl
5:00PM - Wulin Warriors
5:30PM - Winx Club/Juniper Lee
5:58PM - Princess Natasha
6:02PM - Code Lyoko
6:30PM - Fantastic Four/Ben 10

Head the block off strong with a popular show, keep it going strong with good entertainment that entertains the WHOLE target audience, and end it off strong. That's why I should be sitting in Marc Buhaj's seat right now... or whoever does scheduling for Cartoon Network.

But, then again, if I had my way, Miguzi would be an integrated block.

If necessary, though, Miguzi could move on up:

3:00PM - Jackie Chan Adventures
3:30PM - Xiaolin Showdown/Wulin Warriors (39+13=52)
4:00PM - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
4:30PM - Electric Girl
5:00PM - Pokemon (insert title here)
5:30PM - Winx Club/Juniper Lee
5:58PM - Princess Natasha
6:02PM - Code Lyoko
6:30PM - Fantastic Four/Ben 10

[Natey]

Ah! This remembers me when Hamtaro was on Toonami::evil:
yes and what a horrible dumb desicion it was.


when you do a miguzi schedule do you really want miguzi to be on weekends. I think they could put Old CC's instead of miguzi.

~Nate~

[Wanted]

True, this is in essence of the Hamtaro Toonami Desicion, but there is one minor factor: Nobody cares about Miguzi. Just the shows. Miguzi is wasted presentation space. It'll take a while for Cartoon Network to figure out that they don't have to brand every block that's on at 4PM. Just advertise the shows as Cartoon Network's, put on a special presentation (that differentiates itself from the rest of the network, but doesn't require special characters, voice actors [voice-overs would be required, though {preferrably from the current Miguzi voice-over}], or anything else). I'd like to see a presentation that's just something like what Toonami's been doing. The block doesn't even need a title, because at the end of the day, nobody's going to care about a label unless the label cared about them. Toonami's a prime example of this.

[One Radical Dude]

I'm pretty sure that Krypto on Miguzi is temporary. If so, then there's nothing to fret about.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I care about Miguzi itself and its presentation its better then Toonami's

[Wanted]

Please excuse me if I scowl for a moment.

Okay, I'm done. I know a few people might care about Miguzi (as a whole), but variety has been lacking... seriously. You might say it gives reason for people to despise the block. I'm not one of those, though. I personally don't mind if it exists, but wouldn't care if it left.

[New Noise™]

Starting Monday (a change in the weekday lineup), here is what is listed on the CN website:

5 PM - Krypto
5:30 - Winx
6 - Totally Spies
6:30 - Teen Titans

Times listed are Eastern.Good. Krypto rocks!

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

Good. Krypto rocks!Soon it will hit rock bottom with all the overkills.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Okay, I'm done. I know a few people might care about Miguzi (as a whole), but variety has been lacking... seriously.

3 new series in 3 months is lacking variety? :confused:

[Fan of Sponge]

At first you think it's temprorary, but soon Krypto will stay on for the rest of the summer, why not double them up by replacing Teen Titans, and with Krypto being on the block twice delay Code: Lokyo. Why not?:p

Sure I see that as a simple plan. I would like to see Megas again rather than another rerun of Krypto. I had a positive additude about Miguzi second year and now I've seen the block at its worse.:mad:

[Kazuya Prower]

And we all thought CN couldn't get any worse.

[Jeff Harris]

Psst . . . do you want to know a secret?

Here goes.

The real reason why they put Krypto on Miguzi and Fridays is because they're making sure the general public knows what the kid-friendly series looks like. It's a marquee series for Tickle U, Cartoon Network's preschool-oriented block premiering at the end of August. By getting little kids to watch it in hours when they're not asleep in the summer time, they can attract more young fans, and by putting it on in primetime, they can introduce parents who want to know more about the show as well as nostalgic Superman fans who remember the character.

By mid-July, Krypto will be gone from Miguzi and Fridays. Hell, I'm looking forward to Camp Lazlo myself, especially after seeing the first two episodes. Funny as hell, but I digress.

The real problem is Miguzi, of course. Funny situation . . . you got to popular shows seen throughout the rest of the block. Teen Titans and Totally Spies are already seen throughout the network, gaining a prominent premiere place on Toonami and Sunday nights, respectedly. Those two shows are a strong foundation for Miguzi, but the building needs walls and a roof, and that's where the problem comes in.

Here's a brief list of shows (SHOWS, not movies) that have aired on Miguzi in the one-plus years the block has been on:

-Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - (failed [?] on weekdays, struggling on weekends)
- Code: Lyoko - (moderate success on weekdays, returning in the 3Q with new episodes)
- Static Shock - (so-so success, but had limited episodes; victim of antiquated 52-episode rule for animation)
- Transformers: Energon (failed after one week)
- Megas XLR - (failed on weekdays, may never return)
- Winx Club - (not thriving well, moved twice in less than a month)

Of the future shows coming to Miguzi (well, there are only two that I personally know of), I think that Yu-Gi-Oh GX will be a strong base for the block in the years to come primarily because of the success on Kids' WB. Robot Boy is unproven and new, but it may get a significant fan following if its 26 episodes air.

Of the speculative shows in the future, Fantastic Four isn't coming to Cartoon Network until at least 2007 (it'll be Kids' WB-bound in fall 2006). Xiaolin Showdown is probably the best bet for the future of Miguzi. Loonatics Unleashed or whatever the heck it'll be called will likely end up on Miguzi in the summer of 2006 causing purists who still think it's a revamped Looney Tunes series to throw their fists up in anger. I think two dark horse candidates for Miguzi will be One Piece and Shaman King, just to satisfy 4Kids Entertainment's ego, of course, especially since Winx Club and TMNT failed on the block. A block that's 3/4 (or is that going to be 1/2 in '06?) 4Kids would satisfy them just fine.

The next nine months will be a crucial one for the future of Miguzi, and it'll be a period all will be looking at with great interest.

[Sketch]

It'd be nice if One Piece and Shaman King aired on Miguzi.

In the case of One Piece though... CN seems to want to make that a global Toonami property in the same way they made DBZ tied to Toonami. Which would be freak'n awesome if 4kids didn't treat it like crap.

Fantastic Four that far off? I guess it's a The Batman kind of situation.

Question though... What do you think about The Batman. A Miguzi hopeful? It's either that or prime time for reruns I suppose.

[Jeff Harris]

I doubt it. (Robot Boy) has had the same long arduous timetable as Atomic Betty, languishing in limbo for years after its original conception. At this point it airing on Cartoon Network US would be only marginally possible (but possible nonetheless) and more possible to only show on CNUK. Ultimately no matter what the outcome, it will still be a piece of crap like everything corporately devised and delayed over the span of years.Well . . . it IS CNUS bound between mid-November and early-January for the Miguzi block. That's at least a 78-94% probability. And even if in the end it'll be a piece of crap, Cartoon Network will wrap it up and call it gold, though in the end, it'll still be a piece of crap. Lots of it is floating on the current lineup in all dayparts, but I don't want to call out names out of fear of offending folks any further.

As for Xiaolin, I originally thought that Jackie Chan Adventures would have powered Miguzi, but Cartoon Network has refused to buy a single episode past season 3, so I don't trust CN's repurposing of Kids WB material. The fact that Yu-Gi-Oh itself has been cycled on and off repeatedly gives me doubt that their relationship is very strong, especially since they went around WB and got Yu-Gi-Oh GX exclusively.Well, that's more or less Sony Family Entertainment's doing rather than Kids' WB. Sony has more or less been less than impressed with the treatment of the second cycle of Cyborg 009 and Jackie Chan Adventures reruns on the network and the less-than-stellar showing of Astro Boy last year. Cartoon Network, the ratings-minded company that they are, were less-than impressed with the ratings of said shows. Which may explain why Sony never went forward with the second season of Spider-Man (and still, it still baffles me how CN got Robot Chicken and Boondocks).

Kids' WB doesn't own Jackie Chan Adventures, but via Warner Bros. Animation, they do own Mucha Lucha and Xiaolin Showdown. The little libres have had a lot of success on Cartoon Network, even more so than on Kids' WB, and more kids recognize the show from CN than KWB. Because of circumstances beyond their control, Xiaolin Showdown, poised to become a cornerstone weekday franchise, will be without a weekday home. And that's why it'll likely be CN bound in 1Q 2006, as early as January and as late as mid-March.

The fact that Kids' WB has given up on weekdays has garnered Cartoon Network a group once considered Kids' WB's biggest ally - - - 4Kids Entertainment. Even though it was because of the Kids' WB connection that Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh aired on Cartoon Network in the past, CN has quietly become 4Kids' biggest customer. Over the past two years, 4Kids programming on Cartoon Network has increased dramatically. In fact, Cartoon Network airs more than 10 hours of 4Kids programming per week, more than double their 4Kids TV block on Fox and more than what's seen on Kids' WB. 4Kids, it seems, knows where the money is, and that's why they're finding solace in cable television. First stop CN, next stop, Nickelodeon (and they do have one show on the Ameoba network this fall).

Funny situation, ain't it.

[RayChuang]

- Winx Club - (not thriving well, moved twice in less than a month)
I should remind you that Winx Club has only changed its time slot once during its current Miguzi run on weekdays (which is the first time shown on CN! They will only finish the first season this coming Thursday). The far more interesting prospect is who will get access to Season 2 that will likely come out this Fall; will CN get it first or will 4KidsTV on Fox get it first?

[Sketch]

That's obvious. 4kidsTV will get those episodes first. 4kidsTV still airs Winx twice every Saturday. It's obviously doing quite well there and 4kids doesn't want that to change.

[Jeff Harris]

I should remind you that Winx Club has only changed its time slot once during its current Miguzi run on weekdays (which is the first time shown on CN! They will only finish the first season this coming Thursday).Well, I technically said the show was moved twice. It was supposed to be on at 6 PM in the East, but it was moved to 5 PM while Totally Spies moved to 5:30 PM. Martin Mystery obviously made an impact on Totally Spies' performance, much to the dismay of Cartoon Network and Marathon, who had two shows competing against each other, and perhaps THAT was the catalyst for time change. That, and Winx Club didn't really keep the Totally Spies viewership from weeks ago. Ratings are fickle that way.

The far more interesting prospect is who will get access to Season 2 that will likely come out this Fall; will CN get it first or will 4KidsTV on Fox get it first?4KidsTV will get it first. The new season is all but set in stone for the block, and 4Kids will know that they'll get a large audience on broadcast first since it is more availiable to viewers than CN is. Plus, they're using the Miguzi airings to push the property even more as a merchandising vehicle. Miguzi is drawing in the young girl audiences which may explain why TMNT more or less failed on the block and Teen Titans (with two strong female characters and an animated teen idol in Robin) is succeeding. They're going to continue to bring in shows with strong female characters and animated preteen/teen idols in the future. Three key acquisitions, One Piece, Shaman King, and Xiaolin Showdown, would work well on Miguzi, but I think Cartoon Network is largely reluctant to give a large fraction of the block towards anime productions since they don't want it to turn into "another Toonami situation," whatever the heck that means.

Why did I overlook Rave Master? Probably because it is an all-around flop, failing on Toonami and Miguzi within weeks of each other. Can I blame the translation or is this just a terrible show?

[reviewer zim]

This is great news. I hope the network completely runs krypto into the ground and run it off the channel in a year's time. My kids like it, but they are getting tired of the high repetitions of the episodes already.

[Wanted]

And, when I'm finally able to see Cartoon Network again (outside of the fuzzy reception that I seldom get of it), Krypto will still be on, and I'll enjoy it...

Maybe not so much. I can admit that I *almost* got tired of it, despite seeing only two or three episodes (last time I caught Cartoon Network).

[Shadow_Wolf75]

Why did I overlook Rave Master? Probably because it is an all-around flop, failing on Toonami and Miguzi within weeks of each other. Can I blame the translation or is this just a terrible show?
Maybe a bit of both. The show doesn't seem like it would've been that great to begin with, and the dub was just painful to listen to. IMHO, the animation style was just ugly and cheap looking, too.