Dragon Ball Z -- Episode 1 "The New Threat" Talkback

[G1Ravage]

It's been five years since Son Goku defeated Piccolo in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. Earth has been a very peaceful place since then. Goku and Chichi now live together on Mount Paozu. On the same day that Goku is supposed to reunite with his old friends at Kame House, a menacing new force arrives on Earth, with a frightening amount of power.

This is the Talkback thread for Dragon Ball Z "Uncut", airing Mondays through Thursdays at 10:30 PM. Try to pretend this is the first time we've seen this show, and avoid spoiling events happening later in the show. Also, try not to nutso over any "content" you see in the episodes. They're supposed to be TV-PG, but let's see what happenes, all right?

[James Bester]

Y7?! Don't panic. The first SEED that was nearly uncut had a Y7 rating too.

[KnightusMaximus]

Y7?! Don't panic. The first SEED that was nearly uncut had a Y7 rating too.Not to mention the announcer said Dragonball GT was next in the Teen Titans credits. Eh, let's see.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

wow can that "cool high powered intro" last any longer? lol it wasn't bad but to much red

[Umino]

Wow, the picture looks like CRAP.

No DragonBox remasters, Funimation? It's okay, I'll blame Toei.

[Ishtar]

[QUOTE=Shakezola]Y7?! Don't panic. The first SEED that was nearly uncut had a Y7 rating too.[/QUOTE
The TV Schedules might have said that it was TVPG because that rating was on the DVD back cover.
The farmer has his ciggy!

[KnightusMaximus]

[QUOTE=Shakezola]Y7?! Don't panic. The first SEED that was nearly uncut had a Y7 rating too.[/QUOTE
The TV Schedules might have said that it was TVPG because that rating was on the DVD back cover.The TV-PG is also on Cartoon Network's site itself.

[James Bester]

Time to find out if the farmer actually dies in this version:evil:

[livingfruitvirus]

Time to find out if the farmer actually dies in this version:evil:If they copied Ocean's dialogue directly like reviews said they did, he probably "won't."

at least he was smoking


edit - i was wrong. that and the cig are all we have to worry about in this episode.

[Ishtar]

If they copied Ocean's dialogue directly like reviews said they did, he probably "won't."

at least he was smokingHe died alright! Don't worry. They don't use the "Next Dimension"? I have Volumes 1 and 3!

[maximumzero]

There's something very vindicating about seeing the show how it was originally meant to be seen after all these years.

I assume that this isn't the original music as usual...

Also---remasters?

[Megaman X]

Opening is alright and so far good lol:anime:

[Ultra Mike]

He died alright!
You know I heard he didn't technically die in the original anime because you can see him pop up in various cameos in the rest of the series (like when Great Sayiman was passing by a town in the early Buu Saga, you could see him on the farm). Oh well, could just be generic lookalike farmers.

Anyone though who has seen the original japanese version/first english version can tell though some of the things the first english version didn't have, such as the mountain shot and now Gohan wandering around the woods (in the first english version you first saw Gohan crying because he fell on a ledge due to time cuts), among other such stuff.

[G1Ravage]

Maybe this episode just isn't worth a TV-PG rating? Can they actually make the tame episodes TV-Y7FV?

[Ishtar]

You know I heard he didn't technically die in the original anime because you can see him pop up in various cameos in the rest of the series (like when Great Sayiman was passing by a town in the early Buu Saga, you could see him on the farm). Oh well, could just be generic lookalike farmers.

Anyone though who has seen the original japanese version/first english version can tell though some of the things the first english version didn't have, such as the mountain shot and now Gohan wandering around the woods (in the first english version you first saw Gohan crying because he fell on a ledge due to time cuts), among other such stuff.
Yeah! Dr.Gero runs into him aswell!

[Spike Mcdougal]

So far so good I think and the music is pretty good.

[Umino]

Also---remasters?The Japanese DVD release of the show is remastered (just like all the other vintage Toei shows, they look AWESOME). All three series of Dragon Ball were released in boxsets (pretty expensive too) and were limited. The DBGT box was already sold out before it was released.

Here's a comparsion of Pioneer's release, Funi's release, and Toei's release:
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vegex/general/feature/index.shtml

[livingfruitvirus]

Maybe this episode just isn't worth a TV-PG rating? Can they actually make the tame episodes TV-Y7FV?I'd rather they just play it safe and blanket the whole show TV-PG. Jumping between Y7 and PG is a dangerous jump on CN. I'm still holding out that it was a mistake and someone at BOC thought GT was airing or something.

[Ninja Murasaki]

So far, so good.

[maximumzero]

Oh man. The chase scene of Gohan chasing the tiger was one of the funniest things I've seen out of this show.

[Conekiller]

the new music ain't that bad.

it's so...pleasent seeing those Mountains from the Cha-La opening ^_^

[Spike Mcdougal]

DOUBLE SUNDAY!?!

What the hell!?! What happened to the birdie!?!

[Ishtar]

DOUBLE SUNDAY!?!

What the hell!?! What happened to the birdie!?!You'd recognize "Double Sunday" if you have played the DBZ Budokai Video Games. I was right! They edited the credits!

[Spike Mcdougal]

You'd recognize "Double Sunday" if you have played the DBZ Budokai Video Games.
I knew that but I liked the birdie line better

Like the funky ending

[Ishtar]

I was right! They shortned the credits like they did with DragonBall!

[Rabi~en~Rose]

no next episode preview :confused:

I can see why people wouldn't like Gohan since his intro is very wishywashy compared to Gokus lighthearted fun one but this episode was good anyway to me :)

[KnightusMaximus]

Well, this episode went well. Hopefully the TVY7 thing was a mistake, but honestly the ep was basically TVY7. We'll find out next time.

[maximumzero]

Gohan's so adorable.

Anywho, it boils down to this. Decent music. Better vocals. Many scenes that most in the US have never seen. Picturesque Mountain and Forest visuals...Almost an entire episode with no fighting.

WIN!

[Conekiller]

ahhh, old school Dark Green Piccolo!


watching this is like seeing a good friend you havn't seen for years.

interesitng continuity withthe Budokai games, for what it's worth. I wonder if they'll have Ginyu yelling out "MILKY CANNON!" at any point ^_^

[G1Ravage]

FUNi shortened the ending, as expected. But since it was THEIR ending to begin with, they were able to shorten it in such a way so that you'd never know it was shortened. FUNi also used a different font for the credits, and while they listed all of the voice actors for episode 1, they didn't match them with the characters they played, like they did on the DVD. I wonder why.

Also, no previews. :( I was hoping we'd get them on the TV broadcast.

[maximumzero]

The Japanese DVD release of the show is remastered (just like all the other vintage Toei shows, they look AWESOME). All three series of Dragon Ball were released in boxsets (pretty expensive too) and were limited. The DBGT box was already sold out before it was released.

Here's a comparsion of Pioneer's release, Funi's release, and Toei's release:
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vegex/general/feature/index.shtml

Link seems to be busted, FYI.

[A.Magik]

I remember some of these scenes in the Pioneer DVD of DBZ: Dead Zone.

Poor Gohan, at the eclipse of his secure, happy world. The tears he sheds in this episode might as well be crocodile tears compared to the decade of emotional and physical pain he's going to suffer once Daddy takes him to Roshi's island.

BTW, I wonder what the Son Family use Son Gohan's hut for?

A.Magik

[Megaman X]

Epsode was alright.Now I no what was cut out=P

[Ishtar]

FUNi shortened the ending, as expected. But since it was THEIR ending to begin with, they were able to shorten it in such a way so that you'd never know it was shortened. FUNi also used a different font for the credits, and while they listed all of the voice actors for episode 1, they didn't match them with the characters they played, like they did on the DVD. I wonder why.

Also, no previews. :( I was hoping we'd get them on the TV broadcast.They probably got rid of the characters listed next to the VA's due to legal reasons.

[CyberCubed]

My one and only complaint:

WHERE WAS THE PREVIEW?

I seriously hope the "Last time on Dragonball Z" and "Next time on Dragonball Z" aren't cut from the CN version.

Howcome they didn't show a preview to episode 2? I hope this isn't a sign that CN won't be airing the previews.

[Demonic Raven]

Weird ending, and the intro drags on for too long.

On the whole the episode was kind of slow going. As an introductory episode, it was alright. Seeing a few things that would normally be edited fully in tact gives me hope.

The "TV-Y7FV" doesn't.

Anyway, 7/10. Too boring for me.

[James Bester]

That was actually pretty good. I've never seen the Japanese uncut version of DBZ, so I actually thought they were using the original music. I guess it was uncut(not that this episode really required any edits). Nice introduction. I give the episode ****. First time in a very long time that I can watch a premiere on CN and look forward to another one the next day.

EDIT: Wow. Haven't seen that many people view the CN Forum in a very long time.

[PC!]

I can't say I blame FUNi for wanting to skip this episode at first. I doubt many in the 6-11 demographic would find much of an interest in this episode.

And the insanely dull music certainly doesn't help. I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the original music, but at least it had a bit of personality. At least, that's my personal opinion.

[maximumzero]

Anyway, 7/10. Too boring for me.

Everyone, take note that this is why the first batch of episodes was edited in the first place back in the early 90s. Lol.

[Spike Mcdougal]

BTW, I wonder what the Son Family use Son Gohan's hut for?

I believe it's a shrine

[Ishtar]

My one and only complaint:

WHERE WAS THE PREVIEW?

I seriously hope the "Last time on Dragonball Z" and "Next time on Dragonball Z" aren't cut from the CN version.

Howcome they didn't show a preview to episode 2? I hope this isn't a sign that CN won't be airing the previews.
I don't think FUNi made those for the re-dubs.

[killer2004]

I have the first volume of the redubs. It was uncut. There was nothing PG about the first episode.

[shoujoaifan]

Overall music's decent, there's more variety of style, and I really liked how they tried to make it dramatic sounding when showing Raditz for the first time. The episode overall is cute.

Missed most of the begining and the ending didn't impress me much, but I enjoy a show for what it is, not what's right before or after it. I did like "Rock The Dragon" from before. I like a good OP and ED and will judge its OP tomorrow, its just not that important to me.

One thing that kinda makes me sad and laugh at the same time is how my brother complained how the first ending was gone and got upset when I told him "Rock The Dragon" was gone :sweat: Obviously DBZ did great without the "Rock The Dragon" in the first Funimation dub on Toonami, but I guess OP's do matter to regular non-internet people, not enough to stop ratings, but its there.

Anyway, cute episode and can't wait until tomorrow.

[Kazuya Prower]

I'm surprised at FUNi. Everything was left untouched! Except.....No episode preview.:sweat:

[Daizaburo Estes]

DUB TITLE: "The New Threat"
ORIGINAL TITLE: "Mini Gokuu wa Obocchama! Boku Gohan desu"
Translation(s): (Simmons' episode guide)"Mini-Goku is Mr. Precious! I'm Gohan"
(Simmons' DVD translation) "Mini-Goku is an Overprotected Boy! I am Gohan"

Eh, could've been better. REALLY too much time focused on developing Gohan's character rather than actual plot development, but at the very least, it's better than most DBZ fillers.

5/10

Really, I'm just waiting for the moment when they finally get around to confronting one another. THAT's where it gets good, but it's also...where the first DVD ends. :sad:

[G1Ravage]

My one and only complaint:

WHERE WAS THE PREVIEW?

I seriously hope the "Last time on Dragonball Z" and "Next time on Dragonball Z" aren't cut from the CN version.

Howcome they didn't show a preview to episode 2? I hope this isn't a sign that CN won't be airing the previews.
Apparently, FUNi wasn't able to get the original footage for the previews. So we won't be getting any previews on TV, nor on the DVDs.

However, the "last time" recaps ARE kept in, since they're technically part of the episode itself. Since this was the first episode, we don't get a "last time" segment. Although technically, you can count the very first scene as a "last time" segment, since the narrator did touch upon what's been going on for the past five years.

Also, I went back to the DVD and examined the farmer's "death" scene. I played it in super slow motion, and guess what? The farmer doesn't get shot! If you look carefully, the bullet actually passes JUST to the left of the farmer, and instead snaps his shotgun in two. The force of the bullet being fired from Raditz and hitting his shotgun is enough to send the farmer flying backward into his truck. The impact of hitting the truck was likely enough to knock the farmer unconscious, which is why he doesn't get up.

Well, whattya know? o.o

[CyberCubed]

Tomorrow we meet Roshi, Krillin and Bulma again, and of course the FUNI VA's reprise their roles. Can't wait.

[G1Ravage]

And BTW, the episode is indeed 100% uncut and unedited.

However, the eyecatchers were removed. But I don't count that as an edit.

[Kazuya Prower]

Most of the dialouge will be used from the old dub.

[Daizaburo Estes]

Also, I went back to the DVD and examined the farmer's "death" scene. I played it in super slow motion, and guess what? The farmer doesn't get shot! If you look carefully, the bullet actually passes JUST to the left of the farmer, and instead snaps his shotgun in two. The force of the bullet being fired from Raditz and hitting his shotgun is enough to send the farmer flying backward into his truck. The impact of hitting the truck was likely enough to knock the farmer unconscious, which is why he doesn't get up.

Well, whattya know? o.o
I...kinda noticed that too. Was it like, you were watching, wondering why there was such a loud "BANG!" impact with the one single little bullet, and THEN, suddenly, you notice the gun snapping?

[livingfruitvirus]

Also, I went back to the DVD and examined the farmer's "death" scene. I played it in super slow motion, and guess what? The farmer doesn't get shot! If you look carefully, the bullet actually passes JUST to the left of the farmer, and instead snaps his shotgun in two. The force of the bullet being fired from Raditz and hitting his shotgun is enough to send the farmer flying backward into his truck. The impact of hitting the truck was likely enough to knock the farmer unconscious, which is why he doesn't get up.Sounds like you should write a nasty email to Chris Psaros.

[SpaceCowboy]

The music was dull except in the scenes where Raditz shows up. The Japanese version was better.

CN should stream the original Japanese version on the SAP track.

[livingfruitvirus]

CN should stream the original Japanese version on the SAP track.That's been addressed many times. Even Sean Akins has said they're incapable.

[Daizaburo Estes]

CN should stream the original Japanese version on the SAP track.If current weather predictions in Hell are accurate, that just might happen!

Seriously, not a SINGLE ounce of Japanese DBZ is hitting the airwaves. It's a nice dream, though, but we can't get EVERYTHING... :(

[G1Ravage]

I...kinda noticed that too. Was it like, you were watching, wondering why there was such a loud "BANG!" impact with the one single little bullet, and THEN, suddenly, you notice the gun snapping?
Actually, I was carefully watching the scene to see if there was a bullet hole in the farmer's back that might have been covered up on the broadcast version.

There was no hole, and therefore no edit. And that's when I noticed that the bullet totally missed the farmer.

[Yash]

Nice ciggy.

Also, I went back to the DVD and examined the farmer's "death" scene. I played it in super slow motion, and guess what? The farmer doesn't get shot! If you look carefully, the bullet actually passes JUST to the left of the farmer, and instead snaps his shotgun in two. The force of the bullet being fired from Raditz and hitting his shotgun is enough to send the farmer flying backward into his truck. The impact of hitting the truck was likely enough to knock the farmer unconscious, which is why he doesn't get up....

[Dark Fact]

Since I already own this episode on DVD, I'm way ahead of you CN viewers. :cool:

Anyways, for those of you people who are dissing the uncut version right on the first day of its broadcast, listen up. FUNImation and Cartoon Network are doing us anime otakus a great service by finally letting us see these episodes uncut on broadcast television. Besides, the series really picks by tomorrow's episode so have some patience.

By the way, who here found it funny that a farmer with a cigarette in his mouth would be pitching flammable hay? :D

However, the eyecatchers were removed. But I don't count that as an edit.
That's too bad. I found those eyecatches to be pretty cute. Besides, they were only 5 seconds long each. Was it really that necessary to remove them?

Ishtar, what possible legal reasons would FUNI have to not associate the english dub actors with their anime characters? I thought FUNI would've got the rights to use the names.

[bigddan11]

My one and only complaint:

WHERE WAS THE PREVIEW?

I seriously hope the "Last time on Dragonball Z" and "Next time on Dragonball Z" aren't cut from the CN version.

Howcome they didn't show a preview to episode 2? I hope this isn't a sign that CN won't be airing the previews.
There are no next time previews on the FUNi disks out so far, but they do have the On The Last Episode of Dragonball Z.

[Daizaburo Estes]

That's too bad. I found those eyecatches to be pretty cute. Besides, they were only 5 seconds long each. Was it really that necessary to remove them?The problem? Japanese commercial breaks V.S. US commercial breaks

Japan: ONE commercial break
US: 4...5.....maybe 6?

[Dogasu]

So hold on a second.

The farmer got to keep his cigarette, yet the show still received only a TV-Y7 rating?

Um...what?

[CyberCubed]

So hold on a second.

The farmer got to keep his cigarette, yet the show still received only a TV-Y7 rating?

Um...what?

He also got a bullet in him (well sorta, depending on your point of view). So um, yeah.

[killer2004]

I thought we weren't supposed to discuss stuff that wasn't edited out.

[Ninja Murasaki]

The TVY7 scared me, but the ciggy helped me gain hope. So far, it looks like it's still possible for the uncutness to go either way.

[Dark Fact]

X-Fed, is it possible to have that many commercial breaks? I usually count 2-3 on my Canadian station. :eek:

Dogasu...yeah! The farmer has his cigarette. Got a problem with that?

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if they'll show Bulma smoking.

I mean showing some random farmer with a cig isn't a big deal, but would CN allow one of the lead female characters on the show to have a cigarrette?

[Master Moron]

I wonder if they'll show Bulma smoking.

I mean showing some random farmer with a cig isn't a big deal, but would CN allow one of the lead female characters on the show to have a cigarrette?

She doesn't start smoking till the Buu saga.

[Dark Fact]

Y'know, watching this episode again dubbed, everytime I hear Raditz say "Double Sunday", I keep envisioning a double hot fudge sundae with nuts, sprinkles, and a cherry on top. :p

Them's good eatin'... :)

[Sailor Namek]

Well, I'm glad I got to see it finally in any case. The red freaky long beginning was kinda weird...but anyways, the music is okay and I'm looking forward to watching these early eps again done a little better than before ^^

[Mike JD Silva]

Ishtar, what possible legal reasons would FUNI have to not associate the english dub actors with their anime characters? I thought FUNI would've got the rights to use the names.
I don't think there are any legal problems Dark, as IIRC they had it for GT. It's more than likely Funi did it just to get the credits go by faster. Remember, it's commercial time that cuts down on either the opening or ending, and in this case, it's the ending that gets shortened.

Funi did the same thing with FMA on tv, just to get through the credits quicker.

[Nin-Nin69]

She doesn't start smoking till the Buu saga.
Thank God for that. Otherwise I was going to scream at everyone for giving out spoilers saying, "Oh I hope they don't edit this in episode blah blah! That scene will make Baby Jesus cry."

[Discloner]

Japan: ONE commercial break
US: 4...5.....maybe 6?Try 3. :)

[Daizaburo Estes]

X-Fed, is it possible to have that many commercial breaks? I usually count 2-3 on my Canadian station. :eek: Well, not 6 REALLY, but I've known such stations as FOX and others to go up to 4(excluding prime-time). Much of the time, however, it's 2-3 over here, like you say. I was kinda exaggerating. :sweat:

However, I hope the message is still clear...

[PaQ]

Ah, it has been so long since I'd seen early DBZ, a welcome sight indeed. Although I do see why they shortened the content before, because man it really felt like not much happened that warranted 30 minutes. (Almost feels like later DBZ episodes :p)

[Chuquita]

Aw, dbz I have missed you :D
I'm content with the redub. I missed Adult Goku sorely after all those gt episodes.
Who I'm really looking forward to seeing again now is Vegeta. :p

[Yash]

The farmer got to keep his cigarette, yet the show still received only a TV-Y7 rating?I doubt it would get a bump from Y7 to PG because there's a cigarette for five seconds.

[Sketch]

Oh DBZ how I've missed you. You need to wash the sour taste of GT out of my mouth.

So they advertised One Piece during the first break. I figured they might do that since they can't advertise the show while the show is on (except for when the show has another episode coming up) and when GT was on they advertised DBZ Uncut.

The picture certainly does look like crap and the scene stuttered (music included) towards the begining.

Nice to see this uncut and it's also nice to see CN caring about something old skool.

Well I posted this in three threads and it still wasn't used. So I'll post it again. Stick it next to TZ's general "CN talkback" image that can be found in various threads (saw it recently in the Rave Master premiere thread).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Sketchor/dbzuncut.jpg

[Mike JD Silva]

What's funny, well, to me at least, was that opening shot of the mountain, the music for those 2 or so seconds seemed right out of Shuky Levy's Season 1 and 2's BGM.

[G1Ravage]

I threw this Talkback together at the last minute, because no one else did.

Now I'm starting to wonder if it would've better if I'd made the Talkback thread valid for the whole week, and not just the first episode. :eek:

[ClockStomper]

As far as I could tell, there was no audio/video edits. The Y7 seemed apropriate, cigs have never been consistantly banned. They allowed them in Big O and Kenshin in certain instances.

But episodes like this are why I prefer the Manga. Only Raditz and Piccolo's scenes were in Toriyama's work, the rest was poorly written schlock brought to you be the hacks at Toei.

[Kazuya Prower]

This gives us hope for the episodes that has Dr. Brief in them. The Ox-King has a ciggy in one of the first 10 episodes.

[PowerZord]

I seen the spanish dub in this episode(Is almost the same as the japanese version) There aren't any really edits for this episode, just that this time it's a separate episode, Unlike Saban's version.


The horrible music, I thought they were going to use the originals.

The only thing I need to correct to funi is the ep title.

"Aparece un mini-Goku, su nombre es Gohan."
"A mini-Goku has appeared, and his name is Gohan."

That was the original title, at least in the Spanish version and the Spanish version is really the closest to the Japanese version. (Exept on some dialogue.)

But still I'm glad to see it as a separate ep

[Kamaria]

Well, I actually liked the music. It was decent compared to most of the other redub stuff. The "red" intro was great too, but it's no Cha-la Head. Raditz' VA performed well.

"I call it a double sunday."

[Jave]

Did they cut out the eyecatches?

[AlphaPrime]

Was nice to see the missing stuff hehehehe, and i thought the music was actually pretty good*much better then the stuff they used for GT, but i still prefere Falconer's stuff hehehe*

[Demonic Raven]

Since we got Double Sunday, I guess we're going to get Saturday Crush later as well. Funi sure loves Budokai....

[Tash]

Did they cut out the eyecatches?Yeah, but they may slip and play them once or twice, so anyone who hasn't seen them might get a chance if we're lucky. (I remember that one episode of Dragonball on Toonami kept the eyecatches, with Goku and Oolang were trying to throw the Dragonballs onto a spinning umbrella)

[Mugen]

I threw this Talkback together at the last minute, because no one else did.

Now I'm starting to wonder if it would've better if I'd made the Talkback thread valid for the whole week, and not just the first episode. :eek:
I was going to ask why you didn't make one for the whole week instead of one episode, but maybe it will get changed.

[rabidrednek]

I admit, when the farmer got hit and they cut to Raditz, I was still expecting to hear the farmer say "that smarts!" I too miss the "Watch the birdie!" Double Sunday, while an excellent dessert treat, is not a good name for an attack.

I look forward to more uncut goodness.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

I really like Raditz new voice, sounds familiar but I can't quite place where I have heard it before.

[Sketch]

Well I'm not sure if it's close to a specific character he does but it's Justin Cook.

[Yash]

Well I'm not sure if it's close to a specific character he does but it's Justin Cook.I thought I heard a little Yusuke in it, but I knew it was Justin Cook from the start.

I didn't think he voiced him in Budokai, did he?

[jv2k]

I like how this episode is just a way to contrast gohan and goku. Goku was introduced as strong and a in control of his environment. Gohan on the other hand was weak and crying the whole time. It makes sense that it was cut because unless you've seen the begining of dragon ball to compare this episode is pointless.

[ToxicOne]

Not bad. It's good to see good ol' DBZ again. Man, I forgot how cool Raditz was. I miss the "Birdie" line, but it was still a good epsiode.

[Sketch]

Yeah Cook voiced Raditz in Budokai. It's pretty easy to tell IMO.

[New Noise™]

Oh man. The chase scene of Gohan chasing the tiger was one of the funniest things I've seen out of this show.
I agree. LOL. ;)

[Daizaburo Estes]

That was the original title, at least in the Spanish version and the Spanish version is really the closest to the Japanese version. (Exept on some dialogue.)
Sorry, Zord. :sweat: Got there first.

DUB TITLE: "The New Threat"
ORIGINAL TITLE: "Mini Gokuu wa Obocchama! Boku Gohan desu"
Translation(s): (Simmons' episode guide)"Mini-Goku is Mr. Precious! I'm Gohan"
(Simmons' DVD translation) "Mini-Goku is an Overprotected Boy! I am Gohan

[purplehairedwonder]

Ah, it's nice to see the return of DBZ... and uncut no less. Gohan, while his voice didn't fit especially well, was adorable. I just wanted to hug him. I loved Goku's expression when he realized Gohan went up rather than down the waterfall. And the smoking farmer bailing hay. That was great. The intro had so much red, though. Began to grate on my eyes. But overall, I enjoyed seeing DBZ's return and I'm looking forward to the next episode.

[Daizaburo Estes]

I just wanted to say that, while the original version is nowhere near a masterpiece, it does indeed do a much better job of showing emotion, at least in my opinion.

While we have Raditz's endless rambling blaring in the English dub version of the flashback scene, originally there was only silence with the exception of this menacing music track, and we're given these (then)new and strange images of a young Goku being sent off to Earth, sans any sort of explanation. So, it kind of(originally) teases you with this flashback and this weird, new "Raditz" character, and THEN, surprise surprise, the answers're coming NEXT time! What a gip.

[/geeky rant]

[Samurai Karasu]

If you wanna get down to facts, Raditz wasn't using Double Sunday, but instead Saturday Crush. Double Sunday is in a couple of episodes where he fires two huge energy blasts from both of his hands to knock Goku and Piccolo down.

[Daizaburo Estes]

If you wanna get down to facts, Raditz wasn't using Double Sunday, but instead Saturday Crush. Double Sunday is in a couple of episodes where he fires two huge energy blasts from both of his hands to knock Goku and Piccolo down.
At least FUNi went for some kind of consistency with Raditz's techniques, because, in the original show and manga, his attacks were never actually given names, but, suddenly, Budokai comes along in Japan, and they're LABELLED all of a sudden. With NAMES. The games are released in the states, and his attack technique's are christened with their newly-created Budokai titles...in the English dub. Nice touch.

[Kryptonian]

Yes, DBZ is finally back, and uncut more importantly. Hope the ratings will be spectacular. It'd be nice to see the entire series uncut 'till the end. =D

I thought Sean Schemmel did an excellent job with trying to make Goku sound a little younger. Although not Cha-la Head Cha-la like I was thinking, the opening was pretty creative.

[Dark Fact]

Yeah, I would appreciate the opening...if I was Daredevil. :shrug:

[bigddan11]

So, is this thread a talkback for all week, or is each episode getting it's own individual talkback?http://fridays.toonzone.net/talkbacks/premiere.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Sketchor/dbzuncut.jpg

[G1Ravage]

So, is this thread a talkback for all week, or is each episode getting it's own individual talkback?http://fridays.toonzone.net/talkbacks/premiere.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Sketchor/dbzuncut.jpg



I'm creating a new one right now. And I'll use your lovely picture.

[Sketch]

The TZ one was created a while ago and I'm not sure who did it but I made the DBZ one (and posted it in this thread already...)

[CookieS]

A new thread a day is too intense guys. I'm going to use Day Two's thread and flesh it out into a week-long talkback. I'm going to close this one to avoid confusion.