CN continues to phase out their classic Cartoon Cartoons from their schedule.

[reviewer zim]

As some of you classic Cartoon Cartoon fans know CN has been slowly killing off all their older Cartoon Cartoon shows in their schedule. I looked at the listings today and these boneheads have now replaced Dexter's Laboratory from the Sunday morning 5:00 am slot with another viewing of a low quality anime series: Ravemaster. Now Dexter fans only have one shot to see this show all week and that in at 1 am on Fridays.

Why is it that when they have been playing these classic Cartoon Cartoons over the last year or so they have been skipping the first seasons on many of them like Dexter's Lab, PPGs, and Johhny Bravo? They pop might from the end of series run and go back to playing the middle of season two in order for all of them?

Johnny Bravo had two regular timeslots a week a year ago, was reduced to one slot a week and now nothing for the last 8 months. PPG is only on once a week and even then it's in the middle of the night. Courage is also being treated in the same way: 1 showing at 3 in the morning on saturday morning. Time Squad is completely gone from the schedule. When was the last tiem they even aired Cow & Chicken at all? My kids and I love these shows, don't they deserve at least a couple of showings a week at a descent time? Do they really need to show the overplayed Teen Titans, The Eds, Static, Krypto, Totally Spies, CKND, and the like 15 to 30 times a week? A little more variety of old and new would help bring this station's lost interest back for a lot of people.

[EscaflownePilot]

I hear ya.

What annoys me even more about this particular move is that, although I'm glad Rave Master is off of Toonami, what do they decide to replace it with? A freakin' repeat of last week's new Teen Titans episode on Toonami. It may have been cute to do this with DBZ when Toonami was on 5 days a week, but the block is now only 4 hours a week, and there are plenty of things they could do with this slot, yet they take one of the most overplayed shows and decide to repeat it's episode from only one week before? Gah!! At the very least, throw some of the original Justice League episodes there or something!

[NozeNuggets]

Okay, so maybe they'll start showing up on Boomerang. Some of them are on CN on demand on my local Comcast system.

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

You know what you're talking about all right.

They should devote one pt a week to air CCs on CNUS.
In Europe they show nothing but CCs every one 2 - 3 times a day. I don't understand why in US they show all the stuff you can see on KWB anyway when they have their own programs that are much better.

Myybe this Summer they will have some "special" re-runs of classic CCs that haven't been showing in US. That would make great sweepstakes ratings. Better than showing marathons of things they already have on 4 times a day. I honestly don't understand how they do so good with ratings when variety couldn't be smaller.

[EscaflownePilot]

I honestly don't understand how they do so good with ratings when variety couldn't be smaller.Unfortunately, this Nickelodian model of repeating the same few shows over and over throughout the day is exactly what works with the demographic. I'll never understand why - I was never this way. Heck, I remember being ticked off when Kids' WB and Fox Kids initially began running Pokemon and Digimon twice on Saturday mornings, and I love those shows.

[Fan of Sponge]

Some people may have said, "CN has caught the stupid." I rather have to disagree. I mean CN isn't as bad as Nick which repeats itself with Nicktoons and Jamie Spears reruns with little airtime for cartoons not apart of the Nicktoons family.

Now look at CN, they got Cartoons Cartoons, Toonami, Miguzi, and AS with the last two blocks having few cartoon made at Cartoon Network studios. The entire cartoon library has expanded at its fastest rate ever in history. There's more choice and competition thus most channels decide to favor new stuff over the old stuff. Don't worry these old CC will get their light in day. In the couple of years.

[TurtleTitan]

I agree, I'd like to see some of those Dexter's Lab and Courage episodes. I loved them, but I haven't seen them in ages.

[One Radical Dude]

Some people may have said, "CN has caught the stupid." I rather have to disagree. I mean CN isn't as bad as Nick which repeats itself with Nicktoons and Jamie Spears reruns with little airtime for cartoons not apart of the Nicktoons family.

Now look at CN, they got Cartoons Cartoons, Toonami, Miguzi, and AS with the last two blocks having few cartoon made at Cartoon Network studios. The entire cartoon library has expanded at its fastest rate ever in history. There's more choice and competition thus most channels decide to favor new stuff over the old stuff. Don't worry these old CC will get their light in day. In the couple of years.
Indeed. CN does have a greater variety than Nick and Disney Channel.

[Behonkiss]

Or they used to.

[Natey]

I wish CN was more like nick they would have a schedule of gold! courage would still be on!

~Nate~

[Super Leviathan]

At least we know that the Classic Cartoons (Looney Tunes, et al. ) aren't the only shows getting the CN Axe.

[Wanted]

Hmm, you could've taped the shows while they were on. I got all of Dexter's Lab and Time Squad last year, and there was nothing stopping you from doing the same. If I had known Mike, Lu, and Og was on its way out in '02, I would have taped it every morning (if I was old enough to grasp the thought). But, here you guys are, complaining about not being able to see a show and not doing a thing about it. Two words to you: oh, well.

But, seriously, Cartoon Network does need to strip these shows, and I think their summer marathons would be the best and most effective way to get these shows out for their (probable) last runs.

[Courage-Bagge]

Hmm, you could've taped the shows while they were on. I got all of Dexter's Lab and Time Squad last year, and there was nothing stopping you from doing the same. I did the same. I have every episode of Courage, 50 episodes out of 51 of Cow and Chicken, and a vast majority of Ed, Edd n Eddy.

[Sketch]

I wish CN was more like nick they would have a schedule of gold! courage would still be on!

~Nate~
Uh... no no they wouldn't. If CN was more like Nick. Courage would probably not even have that late night slot on Friday. Nick has even less variety than CN. The problem with CN now is they are trying to be Nick. It was much better when they did their own thing like back in the 90's.

[Wanted]

I did the same. I have every episode of Courage, 50 episodes out of 51 of Cow and Chicken, and a vast majority of Ed, Edd n Eddy.I must say, good job!

[Kurtman]

I'm an OBSESSIVE fan of Teen Titans and Krypto The Superdog but I do miss Johnny Bravo and Courage The Cowardly Dog a WHOLE BUNCH!

[Natey]

I did the same. I have every episode of Courage, 50 episodes out of 51 of Cow and Chicken, and a vast majority of Ed, Edd n Eddy.
i envy u. I was to lazy when i was young to tape. YOU KNOW WHAT. there a place where you can buy EVERY courage eps of like 40$. but cow and chicken!!! those are to shows that made me like CN (you know suprisingly i use to hate CN because my friend got a tatto of the eds, then later I watch CCF which then changed my life FOREVER, litterally.)

I envy people who have tapes of CCF and Cartoon Cartoons! i would do anything for them!

~Nate~

[reviewer zim]

Hmm, you could've taped the shows while they were on. I got all of Dexter's Lab and Time Squad last year, and there was nothing stopping you from doing the same. If I had known Mike, Lu, and Og was on its way out in '02, I would have taped it every morning (if I was old enough to grasp the thought). But, here you guys are, complaining about not being able to see a show and not doing a thing about it. Two words to you: oh, well.
I have actually doing something a lot better than taping them. I am capturing and encoding them to video files for the hopes of making a library of a the cartoon cartoon series. It would be much better if they had more than just a few of them on more than once a week late at night if that and didn't skip to the middle of season 2 when they got to the end of the series.

Still I have managed to get these in the past 18 months...

All Of Time Squad
All of Courage
All of the Eds
Ego Trip
Most of Dexter
Most of the PPGs
All of CKND
All of Evil Con Carne
All of Fosters
A few Cow and Chicken
Most of Robot Jones
Most of Johnny Bravo except for season 1 and the start of season 2


So next time instead of trying to be the big bad forum ball buster maybe you should stop assuming things and acting condescending to people. Just because I don't like how they have bumped off all the great classic stuff might not mean I haven't done more than you have to chronicle the classic Cartoon Cartoon shows. If fact some could argue I've done more because I can actually share the shows with others.

[Tak Mazé]

Lucky for the UK, all the 4Kids crap usually ends up on Jetix or Nick.
But we still have the same "rerun overkill" problem in which they play a show 4 times a day, while totally disregarding ones they haven't shown for years.

[Wanted]

So next time instead of trying to be the big bad forum ball buster maybe you should stop assuming things and acting condescending to people.You'll see condescending a lot more often, trust me. Had you considered mentioning that in the first place, though? I have a library of Cartoon Cartoons... What's the point of mentioning it after my little statement?

But, that's beyond the point, here. Cartoon Network's what it is. Either love it or leave it. I can't say that I'm happy with what airs on the network, but somebody has to be.

[reviewer zim]

You can act as big of an 1st class jackass to me here if you like if it makes you feel important. It won't intimidate me as I can give as well as I receive. I've put plenty of time in on Internet message boards and have dealt with far worse than the "toonmaster". I think you would be better served to take a chill pill and stop acting smug assuming you know it all when you obviously don't as proven by your silly tirade about people taping above.

Also Why did I HAVE to mention I encode CCs? I don't like the fact they are pulling them off the air not just for me but for the older fans and kids new to them and THAT is what THIS thread is about. Just because I have a bunch of the episodes on my computer doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy flipping on the TV and seeing them or don't want to be able to see the ones I don't have air.

The whole love it or leave thing is such an immature statement. Sorry, there are very few people in the world who blindly follow anything no matter what without voicing a dissenting opinion on it when it fouls up and far too many give up on something completely when it goes through some bad times. I like cartoon network but it's been much better. I would like it to get back to being more variety oriented and that is by offering just a little more of the classics where guess what KIDS could watch them and not be backwatered at 3am once a week where they are not going to catch them. If that opinion chaps your hide then too darn bad.

[Mr Cat Dog]

Lucky for the UK, all the 4Kids crap usually ends up on Jetix or Nick.
But we still have the same "rerun overkill" problem in which they play a show 4 times a day, while totally disregarding ones they haven't shown for years.CNUK is even worse! The schedule is the same for EVERY SINGLE FRICKING DAY! Foster's overkill, Ed Ed and Eddy overkill (although that may be a blessing for some people) including weekends, but there aren't any premieres then. Toonami and Boomerang at least have variety in their schedules, but CNUK really is a load of crap schedule wise.

The only thing good is that we have Time Squad on at 9:30 and Classic CCs from 11 til 1 in the morning... But that's about it to be honest.At least the US HAVE some new shows to broadcast -_-

As for the 4Kids... I think it's only One Piece of Crap, and Pokemon Chronicles that we get, and they're on Toonami. Most of the stuff goes to Sky One actually, with Turtles, Pokemon AG and Yu-Gi-Oh being on in the morning.

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

I agree with zim, just because toonmaster taped some episodes for himself doesn't mean they should never air for others like old CC fans and kids that never even heard of them yet. I'm very confident many CN originals would be very popular with today's target audience as well. They don't even give them a shot. Kids are raised on junk. It's a shame letting such a vast library to rot. In Europe CN shows alot of oldies, but that's only because they don't get anything else. I guess that would qualify as a good alternative (CN2), but you can't be in US and Europe at once.

Are Cartoon Network channels across the world even affiliated with each other? Or they just think programming should vary by locations?

[Marinite]

I really wish people would stop complaining about shows being knocked off the air. They can only rerun a show so many times before it gets stale and old (as long as it's not making new episodes). I've seen Dexter's Lab enough times and I'd rather they knock it off and replace it with another show or even a new one. Shows can't be on TV forever.

[One Radical Dude]

Yeah. If you don't like CN, then just change the channel. Quit complaining about CN. I've seen enough of these topics. I don't like everything that's on the channel, but I don't whine and cry that the classics are going away. TV shows come and go. That's the way it is.

[Natey]

not with Nick. theres so many ppl wanting the GOOD cartons back why doesnt CN make a CHANNEL LIKE NICK! CN really should stuck like of what Nick did

~Nate~

[Wanted]

You can act as big of an 1st class jackass to me here if you like if it makes you feel important. It won't intimidate me as I can give as well as I receive. I've put plenty of time in on Internet message boards and have dealt with far worse than the "toonmaster". I think you would be better served to take a chill pill and stop acting smug assuming you know it all when you obviously don't as proven by your silly tirade about people taping above.

Also Why did I HAVE to mention I encode CCs? I don't like the fact they are pulling them off the air not just for me but for the older fans and kids new to them and THAT is what THIS thread is about. Just because I have a bunch of the episodes on my computer doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy flipping on the TV and seeing them or don't want to be able to see the ones I don't have air.

The whole love it or leave thing is such an immature statement. Sorry, there are very few people in the world who blindly follow anything no matter what without voicing a dissenting opinion on it when it fouls up and far too many give up on something completely when it goes through some bad times. I like cartoon network but it's been much better. I would like it to get back to being more variety oriented and that is by offering just a little more of the classics where guess what KIDS could watch them and not be backwatered at 3am once a week where they are not going to catch them. If that opinion chaps your hide then too darn bad.It sounds to me like you're the one sounding like a, pardon me, jackass. I don't want to resort to namecalling, like you have, but this could simply have been handled elsewhere. You know where. There, you can sling all the words that you think make you sound powerful there. There, I can just write you off and move on. If you don't like me, fine. If you do, fine. If you have a problem with my statements, which in no way reflect who I am, then reply to the statement. Don't address me personally. I'm not big and bad. I don't think of myself as such, either. But, if you do, then I'm honored.

And, "love it or leave it" meant you're free to change the channel as you please. Nobody is asking anyone here to watch Cartoon Network twenty-four seven. Actually, I sleep better without the burden that is Cartoon Network. Yes, it is a burden at times.

EDIT - I cede. No point in going on with this tirade.

[Wanted]

I agree with zim, just because toonmaster taped some episodes for himself doesn't mean they should never air for others like old CC fans and kids that never even heard of them yet. I'm very confident many CN originals would be very popular with today's target audience as well. They don't even give them a shot. Kids are raised on junk. It's a shame letting such a vast library to rot. In Europe CN shows alot of oldies, but that's only because they don't get anything else. I guess that would qualify as a good alternative (CN2), but you can't be in US and Europe at once.

Are Cartoon Network channels across the world even affiliated with each other? Or they just think programming should vary by locations?But, the episodes have aired for others. Repeatedly.

Sure, the Cartoon Network originals would work with today's audiences, but Cartoon Network's trying to find new hit series, and not trying to stick with the stuff they became great for. That's what great things do. They improve. And, Cartoon Network's just looking for ways to improve.

But, no, Cartoon Network broadcasts internationally do not intertwine; they are not affiliated. Although we received The Cramp Twins, I doubt we'll ever see Fat Dog Mendoza.

Kids have always been and will continue to be raised on junk. It's the truth.

[Tak Mazé]

CNUK is even worse! The schedule is the same for EVERY SINGLE FRICKING DAY! Foster's overkill, Ed Ed and Eddy overkill.
Would you rather have a Winx Club overkill? Personally, I'd rather keep it to Cartoon Cartoon overkill, because if CN UK were to acquire the 4Kids garbage, they'd overkill that, just as they do with every new show/series they air. They exhaust all the episodes in under a fortnight. I'd rather have them air stuff I like too often, as opposed to stuff I don't like. Thing is, CN UK does NOT listen to what the public want. Despite having numerous Email and snail-mail addresses which you can use to ask general questions and such, they don't actually reply and I doubt they're even read. They just do what they believe would be good. They'll carry on this way and air the shows that get the highest ratings more often.
CN US on the other hand, likes to switch things around all the time to keep people on their toes. But it again, it's mostly based on ratings.

[Marinite]

not with Nick. theres so many ppl wanting the GOOD cartons back why doesnt CN make a CHANNEL LIKE NICK! CN really should stuck like of what Nick didThank you for your opinion, but please note that it has no bearing at all because to millions of kids, this is the "good" CN and Nickelodeon. Just because a business want's to, gasp, make money and make new shows doesn't mean they suck. Dexter's Lab, a few years ago, was shown repeatedy and multiple times a day, everyday; so Dexter was once what you hate now. In a few years, a new show will be created and aired a lot and people will complain that they never show Teen Titans, Billy and Mandy, or Ed, Edd, and Eddy anymore.

[Mr Cat Dog]

Would you rather have a Winx Club overkill? Personally, I'd rather keep it to Cartoon Cartoon overkill, because if CN UK were to acquire the 4Kids garbage, they'd overkill that, just as they do with every new show/series they air. They exhaust all the episodes in under a fortnight. I'd rather have them air stuff I like too often, as opposed to stuff I don't like. Thing is, CN UK does NOT listen to what the public want. Despite having numerous Email and snail-mail addresses which you can use to ask general questions and such, they don't actually reply and I doubt they're even read. They just do what they believe would be good. They'll carry on this way and air the shows that get the highest ratings more often.
CN US on the other hand, likes to switch things around all the time to keep people on their toes. But it again, it's mostly based on ratings.Let's just be glad and hopeful that we don't and never will have a 4Kids overkill. But remember, it's only the Eds and Foster's that GET Cartoon Cartoon overkills. All the rest have to be slotted into that 2 hour slot at 11:00.

As for CNUK not listening... don't you think I know that :p They never have listened and never will, in my utmost opinion, which saddens me :(

[Wanted]

Thank you for your opinion, but please note that it has no bearing at all because to millions of kids, this is the "good" CN and Nickelodeon. Just because a business wants to, gasp, make money and make new shows doesn't mean they suck. Dexter's Lab, a few years ago, was shown repeatedy and multiple times a day, everyday; so Dexter was once what you hate now. In a few years, a new show will be created and aired a lot and people will complain that they never show Teen Titans, Billy and Mandy, or Ed, Edd, and Eddy anymore.This is far beyond the truth. It's... THE FUTURE.

[reviewer zim]

It sounds to me like you're the one sounding like a, pardon me, jackass. I don't want to resort to namecalling, like you have, but this could simply have been handled elsewhere. You know where. There, you can sling all the words that you think make you sound powerful there. There, I can just write you off and move on. If you don't like me, fine. If you do, fine. If you have a problem with my statements, which in no way reflect who I am, then reply to the statement. Don't address me personally. I'm not big and bad. I don't think of myself as such, either. But, if you do, then I'm honored.

And, "love it or leave it" meant you're free to change the channel as you please. Nobody is asking anyone here to watch Cartoon Network twenty-four seven. Actually, I sleep better without the burden that is Cartoon Network. Yes, it is a burden at times.

EDIT - I cede. No point in going on with this tirade.
Jackass eh? I don't remember taking you to task first or acting like a sanctimous jerk with the topic post to anyone here. You did that. You tried to act like the CN know it all and forum big fish and then it blew up in your face because of your wrong assumptions. Now you want to sweep it under the rug. Fine, but next time if you don't want a hassle, don't start one. This thread didn't need the typical "everything CN does is brilliant" defenders flaming the issue but now that you and your kind have chimed in don't run away because it's too hot in the kitchen.

As for me watching CN 24 hours a day... who said I did? Why would I? Just about everything they play is on a 3 to 6 hour loop now. Watch it for a few shows a week and you've seen almost everything they show a day to nausuem. Which was my point anyway. There is little variety and lots of room to improve. Yet some of the CN YES MEN cannot fathom the station being open to any sort of criticism. Well too bad for them because unless there is a new rule about voicing only positive opinions then you are stuck out with dealing with varied opinions on some of the ills that plauge the network.

Why don't some of you take your own advice and change the channel? It looks like you couch potatoes watched way too much TV if you totally got so sick of watching all the classic Cartoon Cartoons and want to deny everyone else the pleasure of seeing them for just a few hours a week at a descent timeslot. Instead you all seem to be okay with the network completely running anything new they make into stale oblivion with reruns of the same shows with a handful of episodes every few hours. Would having Cow and Chicken or Johnny Bravo on one or two times a week really kill off all of Krypto fans who can still see the same 20 something episodes once a week or more? Add just a few hours of the old stuff a week and you have a better variety that pleases both classic fans and little kids just getting into these great shows. They don't even give up much airtime to the new shows and in fact probably add a lot of shelf time to them from these guys who watch the network all friggin day.

[Tak Mazé]

Now I'm sure somewhere in the last half a page is at least one word which doesn't exist -_-

[CookieS]

Ok kids, no more name calling or I shall take action. As for this "phase out" thing, Cartoon Network has been phasing out certain shows since it was release. For example, the network often airs a show for a while, switches it's timeslot, and then shelfs it. TV isn't meant to be a giant archive of programming. It airs what has the best ratings and plays favorites to the programming director's fancy. No show is meant to be on forever.

My only gripe is that if they completely pull some shows off the air, they should offer them on DVD.

[Wanted]

Jackass eh? I don't remember taking you to task first or acting like a sanctimous jerk with the topic post to anyone here. You did that. You tried to act like the CN know it all and forum big fish and then it blew up in your face because of your wrong assumptions. Now you want to sweep it under the rug. Fine, but next time if you don't want a hassle, don't start one. This thread didn't need the typical "everything CN does is brilliant" defenders flaming the issue but now that you and your kind have chimed in don't run away because it's too hot in the kitchen.

As for me watching CN 24 hours a day... who said I did? Why would I? Just about everything they play is on a 3 to 6 hour loop now. Watch it for a few shows a week and you've seen almost everything they show a day to nausuem. Which was my point anyway. There is little variety and lots of room to improve. Yet some of the CN YES MEN cannot fathom the station being open to any sort of criticism. Well too bad for them because unless there is a new rule about voicing only positive opinions then you are stuck out with dealing with varied opinions on some of the ills that plauge the network.

Why don't some of you take your own advice and change the channel? It looks like you couch potatoes watched way too much TV if you totally got so sick of watching all the classic Cartoon Cartoons and want to deny everyone else the pleasure of seeing them for just a few hours a week at a descent timeslot. Instead you all seem to be okay with the network completely running anything new they make into stale oblivion with reruns of the same shows with a handful of episodes every few hours. Would having Cow and Chicken or Johnny Bravo on one or two times a week really kill off all of Krypto fans who can still see the same 20 something episodes once a week or more? Add just a few hours of the old stuff a week and you have a better variety that pleases both classic fans and little kids just getting into these great shows. They don't even give up much airtime to the new shows and in fact probably add a lot of shelf time to them from these guys who watch the network all friggin day.DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT 'CEDE' MEANS?

AND, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A CARTOON NETWORK TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL TO.

EDIT - I won't say anything more. If I do, you'll just feel that you have to argue it. Frankly, I don't think there's anything I can say that won't set you off again. But, I'm no more here.

Just because of the way you think I came off in my first post, you think it's your duty to automatically argue any of my other statements in this thread, also? Nobody else is. And, I never said anything about you watching Cartoon Network 24/7. Most of my statements haven't even been directed toward you, but if you think you're the direct target of all of my articulations, then go ahead and think that.

[Brainatra]

Okay, so maybe they'll start showing up on Boomerang. Some of them are on CN on demand on my local Comcast system.

Well, since Boomerang (in the US at least) is aimed at airing theatrical animation and pre-CN-era animation, as a means of giving airspace to stuff like the Hanna-Barbera library, theatrical animation, and other classic Baby Boomer/Gen-X-er fare (which CN doesn't have room for anymore), not sure I imagine any CN-themed shows airing on it in the foreseeable future.

Maybe a "CN2" channel might be created someday, to rerun older CN stuff? As a sort of middle-ground between Boomerang's old stuff and CN's current fare?

[Wanted]

I can only see every Turner network stateside receiving two channels. CNN has itself and Headline News. Cartoon Network has itself and Boomerang. Until CNN gets another channel, which it won't, I will never believe that there's hope for another Cartoon Network.

[Tak Mazé]

I can only see every Turner network stateside receiving two channels. CNN has itself and Headline News. Cartoon Network has itself and Boomerang. Until CNN gets another channel, which it won't, I will never believe that there's hope for another Cartoon Network.
You never know. Turner UK only has 1 CNN as far as I know and 4 variations of CN. They may jump at the idea. More commercial airtime = more cash. That is if people will be willing to watch.

[One Radical Dude]

Having another CN channel isn't as easy as 1-2-3, though. First of all, it would likely end up on a digital network package of if you subscribe to a satellite package. Second, having another channel isn't cheap. If you come up with a network that isn't doing well, it's going to hurt a company more than it's going to help. Sure, I'm open to another network for animation, but it's not worth it if it flops. Right now isn't the time for another CN, in my opinion.

[Sketch]

CN2 would be nice. They'd have to offer more than reruns to get the providers to pick it up though. That's most of Boomerang's problems, it's nothing but reruns.

CN could make some original productions just for this channel and also make a few easy acquisitions.

Building a line-up with CC's that never see the light of day, classics and CN's edgier programing could allow for some real freedom in the programing rather than the tight axe 6-11 ONLY stance. Though CN is loosening up on that a bit but it would still be nice to have an alternative to the current CN. If this channel had classics they could sacrifice Boomerang for it as well. As NO ONE gets Boomerang anyway. But they could continue to have Boomerang on-demand and improve the on-demand line-up.

[Sketch]

Maybe something like this for weekdays

06:00 AM - Batman: TAS
06:30 AM - Superman: TAS
07:00 AM - Ninja Turtles (no love on CN)
07:30 AM - Transformers Energon (even less than Turtles)
08:00 AM - Ed, Edd n Eddy
08:30 AM - Billy and Mandy
09:00 AM - Mike, Lu and Ogg
09:30 AM - Power Puff Girls
10:00 AM - Jonny Bravo
10:30 AM - Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?
11:00 AM - What a Cartoon Show!
11:30 AM - Sheep in the Big City
12:00 PM - The ACME Hour
01:00 PM - The Flinstones
01:30 PM - The Jetsons
02:00 PM - Dexter's Lab
02:30 PM - Courage the Cowardly Dog
03:00 PM - Batman: TAS
03:30 PM - Superman: TAS
04:00 PM - Batman Beyond
04:30 PM - Dragonball
05:00 PM - Dragonball Z
05:30 PM - Yu Yu Hakusho
06:00 PM - Justice League (hour episodes)
07:00 PM - Samurai Jack
07:30 PM - Megas XLR
08:00 PM - Duck Dodgers
08:30 PM - Dexter's Lab
09:00 PM - Cow and Chicken
09:30 PM - Courage the Cowardly Dog
10:00 PM - Jonny Bravo
10:30 PM - Freakazoid
11:00 AM - The Flintstones
11:30 PM - Toon Heads
12:00 AM - Dragonball Z Uncut
12:30 AM - Gundam SEED
01:00 AM - Case Closed (no love on AS)
01:30 AM - The Big O (see CC)
02:00 AM - Samurai Jack
02:30 AM - Yu Yu Hakusho
03:00 AM - The Brak Show (2 episodes)
03:30 AM - Home Movies
04:00 AM - Late Night Black and White
04:30 AM - The Popeye Show
05:00 AM - Thundercats / GI-Joe
05:30 AM - Dragonball

[fanboy]

I like it.:anime:

[Wanted]

Nice sched, I do attest. Now, if only it were a reality. Weekends would have to be a little different, though. I bet there would be more of a focus on the Cartoon Cartoons and classics on Saturday mornings-afternoons, and action has the whole night.

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

I can only see every Turner network stateside receiving two channels. CNN has itself and Headline News. Cartoon Network has itself and Boomerang. Until CNN gets another channel, which it won't, I will never believe that there's hope for another Cartoon Network.I used to get a New England local business CNN. Nick itself has like 6 variations. CN has Toonami, Boomerang. No reason there shouldn't be a channel that shows CCs that haven't been seen in a long time if there's a channel that shows old Hanna Barberra. There's more CN originals anyway I'd say it's worthy they make a channel for their own stuff I'd much rather watch than some low production value retro junk from the 70's. That's my 2 cents.

@Sketch - No way they should show like 21 episodes of Sheep in the Big City on weekends! That's what killed Megas off remember?

[Tak Mazé]

No reason there shouldn't be a channel that shows CCs that haven't been seen in a long time if there's a channel that shows old Hanna Barberra.As a matter of fact there is. The problem being that there are a lot more classic Boomerang suited shows than there are Cartoon Cartoons. The sad fact is that there are too many Cartoon Cartoons to fit into the standard CN schedule, but not enough to form a channel of them.

[TrogdorNyimbhat]

As a matter of fact there is. The problem being that there are a lot more classic Boomerang suited shows than there are Cartoon Cartoons. The sad fact is that there are too many Cartoon Cartoons to fit into the standard CN schedule, but not enough to form a channel of them.I don't see that stopping Toonami. It's only prime time like PAX.

[Tak Mazé]

Toonami is fairly anime based. Anime is easier to acquire dubbed from a third-party than it would be to fund an entire original Cartoon Cartoon series from scratch. Also note that a large majority of CC's are cancelled, so there'd be no new episodes and the ones that ARE getting new episodes air on CN already so, a CC channel would be the most repetitive snooze-fest ever.

[Mr Cat Dog]

Which Toonami are you talking about? If it's the US one, I can understand, but if it's the UK one, it has crap all anime, as I think Pokemon (Chronicles) are the only ones there! Everything else is American, or French in the case of Lyoko.

[Matt-a-Tastic]

Toonami is fairly anime based.Actually. I checked from todays scehdeal and excatlly half of it was Japanese, so I wouldn't say "mostly anime"

[Tak Mazé]

Which Toonami are you talking about? If it's the US on, I can understand, but if it's the UK one, it has crap all anime, as I think Pokemon (Chronicles) are the only ones there! Everything else is American, or French in the case of Lyoko.
Pokemon, One Piece, DBZ (and it's variations), Beyblade, Transformers, B-Daman, Rave Master, Big-O and Duel Masters (which may not even be real anime, not that I care either way) are the ones airing right now I believe. They have more but they've been removed. The US has even more.

[Mr Cat Dog]

I think it is actually :sweat: *Retracts statement* But, the UK still only has 3 variations as CN+1 doesn't count.

[Natey]

accuallt if a couple years there might be enough for a CC channel. added wit ha few other long last shows

~Nate~

[Super Leviathan]

I Find CN's axing of their older CC's (even though they still use the characvters in their current bumpers), deliciously ironic because, for most of the past year, the classic Cartoons (Looney tunes, Popeye, et al.) were the only ones losing their timeslots, and it was because of the Cartoon Cartoons.

That also brings me to a similar, but different issue (which incidentally, turns the tables in favor of the classic cartoon fans) While the Looney Tunes are getting superb DVD treatment, and Warner and King Features are at least trying to discuss the possiblity of a Popeye DVD release, only a Couple of CC have gotten DVD treatment (And even then, they're only getting non-chronological Best of Sets with only Samurai JAck gewtting a season set) and the rest... not a sausage. Supposedly, what CN (The network, not the studio, formerly Hanna Barbera, or the second-parties that makes the shows) wants WHV to put out, that's what gets put out (I'm hardly a corporate brownnoser, so i wouldn't understand the firewalls that exist between subsidiaries of the same company). MAybe we could push for such releases like the fans of Gargoyles Did, but i digress. The point i'm trying to reach is that CN treats it's orignals no better than the Classics: after a few years of airing, poof. It's gone without a trace.

Edit: For Some Reason, I feel this thread is incomplete without Matt Wilson giving us his two cents (MAybe he could also clear up the Firewall thing)

[Natey]

I Find CN's axing of their older CC's (even though they still use the characvters in their current bumpers), deliciously ironic because, for most of the past year, the classic Cartoons (Looney tunes, Popeye, et al.) were the only ones losing their timeslots, and it was because of the Cartoon Cartoons.

That also brings me to a similar, but different issue (which incidentally, turns the tables in favor of the classic cartoon fans) While the Looney Tunes are getting superb DVD treatment, and Warner and King Features are at least trying to discuss the possiblity of a Popeye DVD release, only a Couple of CC have gotten DVD treatment (And even then, they're only getting non-chronological Best of Sets with only Samurai JAck gewtting a season set) and the rest... not a sausage. Supposedly, what CN (The network, not the studio, formerly Hanna Barbera, or the second-parties that makes the shows) wants WHV to put out, that's what gets put out (I'm hardly a corporate brownnoser, so i wouldn't understand the firewalls that exist between subsidiaries of the same company). MAybe we could push for such releases like the fans of Gargoyles Did, but i digress. The point i'm trying to reach is that CN treats it's orignals no better than the Classics: after a few years of airing, poof. It's gone without a trace.

Edit: For Some Reason, I feel this thread is incomplete without Matt Wilson giving us his two cents (MAybe he could also clear up the Firewall thing)He Nows all? I know its feels no reason thread w/o Matt Wilson

~Nate~

[Super Leviathan]

He Nows all? I know its feels no reason thread w/o Matt Wilson

~Nate~He nows all that pertains to CN, Adult Swim, and he appears to know a lot about anime.

[Natey]

He nows all that pertains to CN, Adult Swim, and he appears to know a lot about anime.wow I didnt know that. also hes a great animator with a pajimpin show. Dang i wish i knew the pertains.... We just keep guessin

~Nate~

[Brainatra]

Re: Boomerang: Wouldn't want to see Boomerang get sacrified just to make room for more modern stuff. The reason it's all reruns is that it's supposed to be dedicated to old stuff from the Baby Boomer/older Gen-X-er generation---like TV Land or Nick-at-Nite. Though perhaps a new production using H-B characters *might* fit into Boomerang's lineup...

Re: CNN: Actually, there's "CNN International," an internationally distributed version of CNN. Read that this channel tends to focus more on more hard news (and less "Crossfire"-type stuff) than the US version, probably to compete more closely with the BBC's international newscasts...

Re: A "CN2": Might not be enough shows for such a network *now*, but maybe in another 5-10 years, perhaps?

Re: DVD releases: Yes! :-)

-B.

[Wanted]

He nows all that pertains to CN, Adult Swim, and he appears to know a lot about anime.Even Matt Wilson himself could tell you that he does not know all that pertains to Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. That's just nonsense.

I used to get a New England local business CNN. Nick itself has like 6 variations. CN has Toonami, Boomerang. No reason there shouldn't be a channel that shows CCs that haven't been seen in a long time if there's a channel that shows old Hanna Barberra. There's more CN originals anyway I'd say it's worthy they make a channel for their own stuff I'd much rather watch than some low production value retro junk from the 70's. That's my 2 cents.

@Sketch - No way they should show like 21 episodes of Sheep in the Big City on weekends! That's what killed Megas off remember?Interesting thing about the local CNN. Maybe that's due to CNN being centered in New York, as well as Atlanta.

But, you're trying to compare two different corporations with the "Nick itself has like 6 variations" logic. Turner is obviously not going to let Cartoon Network jump and do everything that Nick does. Take into mind that Nick carries preschool programming, cartoons, live-action programming, 20+ year-old shows, et cetera, et al. Now, can Cartoon Network make a channel dedicated to pre-school shows? No, as they don't have enough programming at the moment. Even though they might have plans to make a Tickle U channel if Tickle U, which doesn't even exist yet, goes well, I don't think they can follow through. They could, but that would mean depending on the years-old programming that they're willing to get rid of to make such a channel, as most of it suits the same audience. We all know that Cartoon Network already carries animation 24/7, so that's out. Now, there's also a channel for 20+ year-old programming. And, I don't think Cartoon Network's going to stride for the whole "exercise and exercise game shows for kids" market. But, Turner's doing the right thing with the Cartoon Network, and there's no denying it. Oversaturating the airwaves with Cartoon Network won't make it any more popular than it already is, and I think Turner's doing great being conservative with their networks. Unlike Viacom, which has MTV and Nick spewed all over the place, Turner has less channels to work with, leaving them with more money to spend and more ideas to come up with. After all, would you really like to see a TNT Action? "TNT. We do drama. And now, we do action! (explosion) Check out the new TNT Action. Call your cable or satellite provider today!"

Re: CNN: Actually, there's "CNN International," an internationally distributed version of CNN. Read that this channel tends to focus more on more hard news (and less "Crossfire"-type stuff) than the US version, probably to compete more closely with the BBC's international newscasts...I knew I was forgetting something.

[CNfan]

And CN now has Top 5 twice each weekend, so those needing a CC fix will get them Sat and Sun at 8A......

[Brainatra]

And CN now has Top 5 twice each weekend, so those needing a CC fix will get them Sat and Sun at 8A......

They brought that show back? Cool... liked "Top 5" (when it wasn't "Kids Next Door" or EE&E dominating things).

Now if I only had cable... :-)

-B.

[Natey]

Maybe something like this for weekdays

06:00 AM - Batman: TAS
06:30 AM - Superman: TAS
07:00 AM - Ninja Turtles (no love on CN)
07:30 AM - Transformers Energon (even less than Turtles)
08:00 AM - Ed, Edd n Eddy
08:30 AM - Billy and Mandy
09:00 AM - Mike, Lu and Ogg
09:30 AM - Power Puff Girls
10:00 AM - Jonny Bravo
10:30 AM - Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?
11:00 AM - What a Cartoon Show!
11:30 AM - Sheep in the Big City
12:00 PM - The ACME Hour
01:00 PM - The Flinstones
01:30 PM - The Jetsons
02:00 PM - Dexter's Lab
02:30 PM - Courage the Cowardly Dog
03:00 PM - Batman: TAS
03:30 PM - Superman: TAS
04:00 PM - Batman Beyond
04:30 PM - Dragonball
05:00 PM - Dragonball Z
05:30 PM - Yu Yu Hakusho
06:00 PM - Justice League (hour episodes)
07:00 PM - Samurai Jack
07:30 PM - Megas XLR
08:00 PM - Duck Dodgers
08:30 PM - Dexter's Lab
09:00 PM - Cow and Chicken
09:30 PM - Courage the Cowardly Dog
10:00 PM - Jonny Bravo
10:30 PM - Freakazoid
11:00 AM - The Flintstones
11:30 PM - Toon Heads
12:00 AM - Dragonball Z Uncut
12:30 AM - Gundam SEED
01:00 AM - Case Closed (no love on AS)
01:30 AM - The Big O (see CC)
02:00 AM - Samurai Jack
02:30 AM - Yu Yu Hakusho
03:00 AM - The Brak Show (2 episodes)
03:30 AM - Home Movies
04:00 AM - Late Night Black and White
04:30 AM - The Popeye Show
05:00 AM - Thundercats / GI-Joe
05:30 AM - Dragonball
purdy good but instead of the big O i would rather have Oh canada. DANG i miss that show.

~Nate~

[Wanted]

They brought that show back? Cool... liked "Top 5" (when it wasn't "Kids Next Door" or EE&E dominating things).

Now if I only had cable... :-)

-B.Factually, it never really went anywhere. It was just hidden obscurely behind Atomic Betty.

I also prefered it when KND and EEE, but moreso Billy and Mandy, didn't dominate the show.

[Kazuya Prower]

CN needs to air less Kids Next Door, Totally Spies & Teen Titans.

[Natey]

CN needs to air less Kids Next Door, Totally Spies & Teen Titans.TS aint on that much anymore.

~Nate~