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Carolina Red
04-20-2005, 09:30 PM
I never was a fan of Surge, but I'm amazed that there are so many fans of the drink. Better yet, I'm amazed people go out of their way for it.
Fan Club Seeks to Revive Surge Soda
Tue Apr 19, 5:18 AM ET

By MARC LEVY, Associated Press Writer

CARLISLE, Pa. - Surge blasted into the cola wars in 1997, billed as a "fully loaded citrus soda" and backed by TV ads that showed kids tripping over each other to grab a bottle.

That year also turned out to be the peak year for sales of Surge — Coca-Cola Co.'s challenger to PepsiCo Inc.'s popular Mountain Dew.

These days, Surge is the beverage equivalent of an endangered species: Coca-Cola stopped marketing it about five years ago and has no plans to boost production of the drink, which occasionally turns up in soda fountains but is no longer sold in bottles or cans.

But a far-flung band of devotees is clamoring for its revival and keeping the Surge legacy alive with a Web site — www.savesurge.org — featuring 500 pages of Surge testimonials, photographs of old Surge paraphernalia and even recipes for making a Surge-like beverage at home.

Bloggers log soda-fountain sightings of Surge from California to Maine. Two Arizona women planned to gather Surge petition signatures at a country music festival this month. And a Norwegian man offers trans-Atlantic shipments of Urge, Surge's orange-tinged cousin, which is sold in his country.

Web designer Eric Karkovack ties the loose ends together from inside the brick walls of his apartment in south-central Pennsylvania. Each day, an average of 500 Web surfers visit the site that he started with another Surge fan in 2002, around the time the soda became scarce.

"I never expected when I started the Web site that it would still be going three years later," said Karkovack, 27, who hasn't had a swig of the bright green liquid since 2003. "I just figured that, like most of these sites that want to save something, that it would be a fad."

Perhaps, but for now the movement has gusto.

Surge fans still rave about the taste, which hovers between lemon-lime and orange. It packs more sugar and caffeine than Coke or Pepsi, and slightly less of both than Mountain Dew.

After it came out, Drew Bizzell, of Bryan, Texas, recalled drinking nearly two dozen cans of Surge a week until his mother cut him off. Now that stores no longer stock the stuff, the 19-year-old aspiring film student has made a short movie about it.

"It became the only (soda) I was drinking," Bizzell said. "And once it was taken away, I became insanely obsessed with it."

Twelve-packs have sold for as much as $152 on the Internet auction site, eBay.

Dennis Howard, a trash hauler in McDonald, Kan., who regularly hawks antique cans and bottles on eBay, was surprised to see bidders recently offering $20 or so for an empty glass bottle of Surge.

So when he discovered about 30 unopened and expired Surge cans, including a 12-pack, in a farmhouse he was cleaning out last month, he posted them on eBay.

"I thought, `Boy, that thing's bringing a pretty good price,'" Howard said.

To pressure Coke, savesurge.org has targeted letter-writing campaigns at Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Coke's biggest buyer, and bottling executives.

Wal-Mart spokeswoman Karen Burk said she's aware of the Surge requests, but that the retailing giant hasn't contacted Coke because "we're not seeing that as a strong demand" from customers.

Coke spokesman Scott Williamson said Coke has no plans to raise Surge's profile.

"If there were to be increased demand for Surge, we would consider making it more widely available," he said.

Coke's Web site makes little mention of Surge and a customer-service operator said it is discontinued, although Williamson said the company still makes the syrup.

"It is essentially a discontinued brand," said John Sicher, the publisher of Beverage Digest.

Coke sold 200,000 cases of Surge in 2004, down from 69 million cases in 1997. By comparison, Mountain Dew, the country's fourth-biggest carbonated beverage, sold nearly 650 million cases in 2004, Sicher said.

Sicher said he doubts Coke will revive Surge and rather thinks the company will eventually introduce Vault, a new would-be Mountain Dew competitor that is currently being tested.

Why the demise?

Sicher suspected Coke didn't market Surge long enough to escape Mountain Dew's formidable shadow. Bizzell blamed the marketing itself, saying that parents were frightened by television images of teens clambering over each other to get at it.

If savesurge.org ultimately fails, Karkovack said the effort will not have gone to waste: The cause brought together a disparate group of people who, at least for a while, had a good time.

"It's more like a community than a Web site," he said.
P.S. A 12oz can of Surge (unopened) is going for almost $20 right now, and a 2-liter (unopened) for around $25.

Lord Dalek
04-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Why? It's just Mello Yellow with a sillier name.

SirLemming
04-20-2005, 10:03 PM
Count me in! Well, I won't sign a petition or anything, for the sake of my own sense of self-respect, but I'm ideologically behind this movement 100%.

EDIT: No, it is not Mello Yello with a sillier name. Mello Yello and Mountain Dew are nearly indistinguishable, but Surge is different from the two.

Kury Wagner
04-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Why? It's just Mello Yellow with a sillier name.Bwah!? Why do you speak of such nonsense?

I miss Surge greatly.

Punisher
04-20-2005, 10:12 PM
Surge was the only Coke product I will admit to ever liking. I've stayed true to Pepsi, but good god, how I miss the rush you got from Surge.

Chad Bonin
04-20-2005, 10:13 PM
Surge was liquid crack. If you drank a six-pack in one sitting, your heart would explode.

Juu-kuchi
04-20-2005, 10:32 PM
Surge was liquid crack. If you drank a six-pack in one sitting, your heart would explode. Cite sources! Cite sources! Or else you're gonna get a D on your research paper on Guatemalan Social Injustice!

I'm somewhat for it. It's been a while since I've had it.

Lord Dalek
04-20-2005, 10:35 PM
EDIT: No, it is not Mello Yello with a sillier name. Mello Yello and Mountain Dew are nearly indistinguishable, but Surge is different from the two. <_<
>_>

You sure?

Shnay
04-20-2005, 10:50 PM
The eBay part of this story really amuses me, and calls to mind a number of comedy shows that have done bits around people paying for unavailable food items. This also makes me realize how little variety I've had in soft drinks. I have probably only sampled about 1/10 of the soda market, by a generous estimate. I haven't even had a Dr. Pepper yet, let alone a "Surge."

randomguy
04-20-2005, 10:57 PM
I haven't even had a Dr. Pepper yet, let alone a "Surge."
For the love of all that is good and holy, Shnay, get off the internet, leave your house, hit up the nearest convenience store, and rectify that injustice right away.

Surge was liquid crack. If you drank a six-pack in one sitting, your heart would explode.
Tell me about it. I've heard if you combine Surge and Pop Rocks, the resulting explosion is roughly equal to that of a nuclear warhead with a five megaton payload.

I can only vaguely remember Surge, but I remember drinking one at 9PM in sixth grade and being up all night. It's that kind of soda. It's extremely caffeinated and even more loaded with sugar than your average carbonated beverage.

Not bad, but not great. Certainly better than Mountain Dew, but that doesn't say much. I wouldn't recommend drinking it often, though, lest you want to wind up with diabetes by the time you're twenty.

Chad Bonin
04-20-2005, 11:01 PM
Funny thing is, I don't think I even liked it back in the day. But if it returned, I'd instantly buy a Fridge Pack of it.

I figure one of 'dem cans could fuel my Friday mornings better than a Full Throttle.

Kury Wagner
04-20-2005, 11:51 PM
Mello Yello and Mountain Dew are nearly indistinguishable, but Surge is different from the two.This I disagree with. Mello Yello is like Mountain Dew-light. It lacks so much.

Needless to say I enjoy(ed) all three.

Zero Signal
04-21-2005, 12:50 AM
Surge was far and away my favorite soda ever. Trust me, if I had any money at all I'd be one of those people paying high on ebay. A friend and I would make a 2 and 1/2 hour drive twice a month to a pizza place that still sold it up until 2 summers ago, and get a buffet just to sit and drink cold Surge for 3 to 4 hours at a time. I wish Coke would at least bring it back limited, like for summers or something (so I could fill a fridge).

cross blues
04-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Surge was liquid crack. If you drank a six-pack in one sitting, your heart would explode.
with the effects it had on me... I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there was some cocaine or speed in there. just thinking about it still gives me a craving... mountain dew is good, but not that good. nothing can fill the VOID. I have a suspicion that Vault, if it is ever marketed, will be as similar to Dew in taste as they can possibly get it. and that just pisses me off.

purplehairedwonder
04-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Ahh, Surge. I love(d) that stuff. Got it from the vending machine every time I went to the grocery store with my mom. Great stuff. I miss the sugary high I got from that stuff. Yummy *drools Homer Simpson style*:p

Tenku
04-21-2005, 09:05 PM
Liquid crack, eh? I must have! :p :D


I haven't heard of Surge... just Jolt!. If it's really true that it gives you that burst... hell, I'd be up for days on end. :eek:

SirLemming
04-21-2005, 09:14 PM
I haven't heard of Surge... just Jolt!. If it's really true that it gives you that burst... hell, I'd be up for days on end. :eek:Surge probably has a bit less of a kick than Jolt.

EightOh
04-21-2005, 10:37 PM
I haven't even had a Dr. Pepper yet, let alone a "Surge."You WHAT?!

As for Surge, I liked it. Didn't love it, but it was definitely my favorite of the "yellow" mainstream brands (Mello Yello and Mountain Dew being the others; haven't seen a Mello Yello in forever, and don't care for Mountain Dew). In general, I've always preferred the Sprite/Sierra Mist/7 Up style of "alternatives" to the dark colas.

I do have an old Surge magnet I ganked from my cousin five or six years ago on my refrigerator, though.

SuperLuigiBros
04-21-2005, 10:44 PM
I actually remember Surge! Ah, I loved that stuff!

Shnay
04-22-2005, 03:42 PM
It seems I'm missing out on something. I'm just not a soda person, really. Basically, I go for Pepsi or Coke with a burger or pizza, and a Sprite if I want something a little lighter. Most of the time, though, I just don't feel like a soda. But maybe I should give the old Doc a try and see if it changes my mind.

Karl Olson
04-23-2005, 01:55 AM
Funny thing is, I don't think I even liked it back in the day. But if it returned, I'd instantly buy a Fridge Pack of it.

I figure one of 'dem cans could fuel my Friday mornings better than a Full Throttle.

Because unlike Full Throttle (and Red Bull and Rockstar,) Surge didn't taste like patently grotesque. It was pretty palettable even, especially when it was only 1 buck for 6 pack. I'd easily have the whole pack in a sitting. Didn't really catch a buzz of it myself, but I once gave just one to a friend of mine, and his arms went numb off it. I pretty much dropped around about the time the price jumped up. Besides, Code Red was just around the corner, and that was definitely my weapon of choice for a while.

Personally though, I'd rather have Pepsi's Josta or Coke's OK Soda back. Those two (IMO) are the pinnacle of the soda world. Mt. Dew Amp is pretty close to Josta, but it's not quite got the same flavor (and it's way too expensive, especially since I can't buy it at Costco or anything.)

William C. Maune
04-23-2005, 02:02 AM
Surge is so 1997, they need to bring back Bubble Up!

EightOh
04-23-2005, 07:51 AM
It seems I'm missing out on something. I'm just not a soda person, really. Basically, I go for Pepsi or Coke with a burger or pizza, and a Sprite if I want something a little lighter. Most of the time, though, I just don't feel like a soda. But maybe I should give the old Doc a try and see if it changes my mind.Keep us updated.