Getting a bit worried...

[Rover_Wow]

It used to be I was pretty sure I'd live out a long healthy life. Now I'm not so sure about the "long" part. In the paper yesterday, I read about the Saint Malachi predictions that described the next 112 popes before the destruction of Rome, and John Paul 2 was the 110th. I'm not a Christian, but that has me a bit worried. (BTW, I'm Buddhist, which inscribes a 5000 year lifespan for the religion.) Especially since many weird things have happened lately, like the Sox win and the tsunami... not to mention people finding more "end of days" theories. Hmmm... why has apocalyptic pessimism been on the rise lately?

[Metroid_spy]

It used to be I was pretty sure I'd live out a long healthy life. Now I'm not so sure about the "long" part. In the paper yesterday, I read about the Saint Malachi predictions that described the next 112 popes before the destruction of Rome, and John Paul 2 was the 110th. I'm not a Christian, but that has me a bit worried. (BTW, I'm Buddhist, which inscribes a 5000 year lifespan for the religion.) Especially since many weird things have happened lately, like the Sox win and the tsunami... not to mention people finding more "end of days" theories. Hmmm... why has apocalyptic pessimism been on the rise lately? Personally, I don't really think that the apocalypse is coming. I think all of this has just been coincidences [sp?].

[Rover_Wow]

Personally, I don't really think that the apocalypse is coming. I think all of this has just been coincidences [sp?].

Spelling is fine. But that doesn't answer my question: why are more people thinking that it's coming?

[Artimus Gigan]

They have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years...

the planet itself is fine as well is the solar systerm...so I see no need to worry

[James Bester]

It used to be I was pretty sure I'd live out a long healthy life. Now I'm not so sure about the "long" part. In the paper yesterday, I read about the Saint Malachi predictions that described the next 112 popes before the destruction of Rome, and John Paul 2 was the 110th. I'm not a Christian, but that has me a bit worried. (BTW, I'm Buddhist, which inscribes a 5000 year lifespan for the religion.) Especially since many weird things have happened lately, like the Sox win and the tsunami... not to mention people finding more "end of days" theories. Hmmm... why has apocalyptic pessimism been on the rise lately? What? Did you expect the Sox to never win again? It was bound to happen someday.

Personally, I don't think we can know when the apocolypse will come. And whenever something big happens, somebody makes a huge deal about it. Trust me. If Michael Jackson wins the case, if the New York Yankees win the world series, then someone will make some huge premonition. Only God knows when the apocalypse will take place.

Oh, and the reason apocalyptic pessimism has come up is mainly due to the fact that the Mayan Calendar ends at 2012, even though they don't specifically state that it will end in that year. Other reason is the bible code, which I believe is a big hoax.

[Rover_Wow]

What? Did you expect the Sox to never win again? It was bound to happen someday.

Nevertheless, some people have taken this as a sign of bad things to come.

Oh, and the reason apocalyptic pessimism has come up is mainly due to the fact that the Mayan Calendar ends at 2012, even though they don't specifically state that it will end in that year. Other reason is the bible code, which I believe is a big hoax.

Personally, I've been worrying about the Mayan calendar cycles myself. The date given by the kooks, Dec 21, also "happens" to be the date given in the final ep of X Files for an alien invasion. Also, I just read at Exitmundi.nl (it's an engrossing read, and I retched a few times reading the various articles) that there's supposed to be earthquakes on that day.

To borrow from REM: It's the end of the world as we know it... and I'm not feeling fine.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

Stop worrying so much.

That's all you have to do.

[Stewie]

But that doesn't answer my question: why are more people thinking that it's coming?Think about it. Are more people thinking that it is coming, or do you just happen to be hearing about them.

Seriously, there's always someone that thinks the "end is nigh". Check out this interesting article at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_unfulfilled_Christian_Prophecy). That one deals just with "Unfulfilled Christian prophecies", so not necessarily end of the world stuff, but it's prominent for sure. And Christianity certainly did not invent the idea of the end of the world. It's a neat place to start. (I could spend hours on Wikipedia just flowing from one article to another. It's like what IMDB did for the "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game" but it's not just actors in movies.)

The date given by the kooks, Dec 21, also "happens" to be the date given in the final ep of X Files for an alien invasion.That didn't just "happen" by accident. The writers knew of that date, and wrote that on purpose. If it had been unintentional, it would have been interesting.

We are a paranoid bunch, aren't we. If time and reason don't allow you to stop worrying, think of it this way. Whatever may/will happen is inevitable. Nothing you do can change anything. So just try to live with yourself until it happens.

[Metroid_spy]

Spelling is fine. But that doesn't answer my question: why are more people thinking that it's coming? I heard in history class that the Mayans predicted the Earth would end in some year like 2012 or something. I don't think its true. Many Christians believe that all of these tragic events such as 911 and the tsunami are the signs of what they say in the Book of Revelations in the Christian Bible. I think many people have thought about this for many years, but due to these tragic occurences, they're are getting courageous to speak out what they believe. I'm not sure... Just my guess.

[Jasmine_G.]

This is accually the first I'm hearing of this, and I'm not the least bit worried. I think that this is some big scam.
Why can't those guys ever say something good, huh?

[Delthayre]

Any reality in which a baseball team winning a dubiously named championship is a sign of the apocalypse deserves to end in horrible death and fire.

I mean seriously, at nearly any point in time you could pick and choose whatever coincidences you wanted to paint a picture of a world on the brink of whatever supernatural annihilation you happen to buy into.

[Shnay]

I think it would be a fun writing experiment to write a series of very vague descriptions and claim that they all represent events that will come to pass in, say 10 years. Then in ten years, re-read it and try to apply all of your predictions to world events. See if you can out-prophesize your friends!

[Rover_Wow]

Think about it. Are more people thinking that it is coming, or do you just happen to be hearing about them.

More of the latter, I guess...

Whatever may/will happen is inevitable. Nothing you do can change anything. So just try to live with yourself until it happens.

That's why I'm getting a bit worried. I'd rather live out an old age (and see the next eclipse in Thailand, in about 65 years' time), rather than die from the apocalypse. (Wouldn't we all?)
(Hoping that the cardinals choose Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (sp?), since I don't see him connected to olives... then again, some kook might make a connection, a la Nostradamus' "predictions")

[Stewie]

I'd rather live out an old age (and see the next eclipse in Thailand, in about 65 years' time), rather than die from the apocalypse.I bet you $100 that if you die it will not be from the apocalypse.

Any reality in which a baseball team winning a dubiously named championship is a sign of the apocalypse deserves to end in horrible death and fire.Yeah, and if the victory of any team is tied to the end of this world (or any other) events it's the Cubs.

[Kagetsu]

It used to be I was pretty sure I'd live out a long healthy life. Now I'm not so sure about the "long" part. In the paper yesterday, I read about the Saint Malachi predictions that described the next 112 popes before the destruction of Rome, and John Paul 2 was the 110th. I'm not a Christian, but that has me a bit worried. (BTW, I'm Buddhist, which inscribes a 5000 year lifespan for the religion.) Especially since many weird things have happened lately, like the Sox win and the tsunami... not to mention people finding more "end of days" theories. Hmmm... why has apocalyptic pessimism been on the rise lately? Now I believe in the "End Time" but I'll not go all religious on you here because I'm still working it out. There is one fact that everyone should hold on to. The "Time" can not be predicted, and it can't be changed.

[90'sCartoonMan]

But that doesn't answer my question: why are more people thinking that it's coming?
That mini-series on NBC is just doing a lot of advertising.

These signs aren't actually for the end of the world, they're just trying to get you to watch Revelations. The television industry and advertising is a powerful thing.

Ominum Finimum Imment.

Or something

[Chad Bonin]

I ain't got a date yet.

The world is safe from implosioning... at least the important part (read: America).

[Ben]

Remember the 19th century? William Miller, all those guys? That was the golden age of millennialism, at least in this country. I'd think a significantly lower percentage of Americans today believe the apocalypse is imminent. Though I could be wrong, I suppose.

[Rover_Wow]

But 19th century America didn't have particle accelerators, nukes, or knowledge of quantum physics. Exitmundi talks about how those (and much more) might give the world problems (any day now, to boot).

The "Time" can not be predicted, and it can't be changed.

And that (especially the 2nd part) worries me somewhat. I thought we could determine our own destiny?
I've been down in a funk ever since reading about Malachy and then (in researching about Malachy) finding a link to Exitmundi from Wikipedia. I have to stop visiting Exitmundi before I'm WAY down, and find a way to get over the stuff I just read there. (Meanwhile, let's hope the cardinals don't vote for a Jew, a Benedictian, an African, or a Latin American... they all fit the "Glory of the Olive" prediction Malachy wrote. Two words: Joseph Ratzinger.)

[Chad Bonin]

But they had Abraham Lincoln, the man with the ability to destroy people with his very beard.

... or maybe I'm thinking of Vin Diesel.

[Gatomon41]

I hate to everbody this, but bad stuff has aways been happening since forever. We only know about so much destruction now because of better and faster communications. Wars, floods, disease, plauge, anf famine have been happening for centuries, we just been able to hear about them now. Corrupt and perverse societies are not new either, they've been around. So stop worrying about the end of the world. It will happen when it happens.

Ok, so were messing around with quantum physics and particle accelorators, but those things won't affect us much. If it causes the end, I doubt we could do anything about it to stop them.

[Artimus Gigan]

Bah if the world is gonna end, I have a sure-fire way to halt the destruction

Everybody must first equip the Cat Nip item and have all of their ultimate weapons

All the black mages must cast chain ultima and the white mages cast Holy Guard

Then the summoner must summon the Aeons and everyone else preform their limit breaks


This stratagy has never failed me...ever

[UberMonkey]

Stop worrying about dying and start worrying about living. You should be happier that way.

[Rover_Wow]

Good news: Conclave picked Jospeh after all.

Bad news: He still managed to fit the Malachy prediction:

Pope Benedict XVI (Gloria Olivae)

The next motto is Gloria Olivae, the glory of the olive. Prior to the papal conclave, this motto led to speculation that the next pontiff would be from the Order of Saint Benedict, whose symbols include the olive branch. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, selected in April 2005, is not a Benedictine, but did pick Benedict XVI as his papal name, which might be regarded as a fulfillment of this prophecy.

Alternatively, less specific interpreters have predicted that the next pope will promote world peace (as in an olive branch). Pope Benedict XVI has chosen "Pax" (peace) as his papal motto. The self-proclaimed Pope Clemente Domínguez y Gómez of the Palmarian Catholic Church claimed that he was the glory of the olive.

There had already been, before the election of pope, a concomitance in two unrelated events occurring on the opening date of the 2005 Conclaves. First, a Turkish presidential candidate won overnight the northern Cyprus elections favouring re-unification peace talks of the two sectors; the Cyprus flag has two inter-locking olive branches in it. Secondly, the Italian Prime Minister has seriously been considering resigning and holding early general elections succumbing to pressure from the leftist opposition called l'Ulivo.

The next couple decades could be a wild ride for the church and even the world as a whole. Good luck, world, we're gonna need it.

[Jade_GL]

Maybe it fit the prediction because they are trying to make it fit? There is a phrase about self-fulfilling prophesies. Maybe this is one of them.

I am cynical and skeptical. This kind of mumbo jumbo makes people interested in the church, and may even make people into believers. You don't think that that may play some small part in all of this?

No only that, but I read all the stuff and it could easily be chalked up to coincidences. Not only that, but there is no substantive thing that it predicts. It can be anything from their place of birth, vocation, favorite TV show, or whatever. While it's interesting to see some of similarities (I read a cached article with the help of Google) it's just as likely that the pope and heiarchy knew the titles and made any bit of information that suited them fit with the prophesy. It's relatively easy if you try it.

I put more stock into Nostrodamus, which is none, so that's even less than none... Something like -5 or something.

[Czar Gato]

Ah, good ol' St. Malachy and "his" prophecies. Funny thing about them is that most respected theologians regard them as a hoax. They were said to have been delivered to the pope of his time, but the pontiff promptly stored them away in the Vatican; they were "rediscovered" by a Belgian priest in the 1700s, I believe. They are apparently very accurate up to that time's pope, but afterward they become more and more vague in their descriptions. It's theorized that said Belgian priest came up with them himself.

Besides, "End of Times" isn't very specific. The Blessed Mother made no mention of such things, and many of the accurate predictions in the Church's mysticism came directly from her.

[Calhoun07]

It always amuses me when people think that just because the world has gone on one way, it will just continue that way because, I guess, they can't imagine anything else. At one point, did people just assume the World Trade Towers would always stand because they were just there?

There is always room for doubt in prophecy of this nature, because we are taught even in the Bible to be wary of false prophets and sheep in wolves clothing. But this St. Malacy was dead on about EVERY Pope from his time to now. You can't say that about a lot of other so-called prophets.

And the Bible also teaches us the Earth would have birth pains before the end, so we see all these bad things happening in the past and now, and there are naysayers who will always say, "Well, this happened back then and look, we are still here," is about as logical as taking a look at a pregnant woman going through labor and witnessing a contraction and concluding she will always be pregnant because every time she contracts, no baby is born. But the baby will be born, and these birth pains the earth is experiencing will culminate at some point in the future.

I, for one, honestly belive we are living in the last days. The prophecies in the Bible are all the time coming true. People can say what they want about the tsunami in January, but the facts of the matter are that the Earth was shaken so violently in the wake of the tsunami that the Earth shifted on it's axis permanately. It is a scientific fact that ground water on the other side of the planet shook as a result. It is a scientific fact that the Earth, for quite some time, and perhaps still to this date, shook in the aftermath. None of the shaking was so strong that we could feel it in our day to day lives, but science says it occured. It is also a fact that the cost lines of many Asian countries were lain to waste, and will take decades to recover. The before and after satellite photos are posted on the Internet and a Google search away for those interested, but they truly show amazing devastation.

Isaiah deals with many of the end time events and it's getting to the point that you open the book to read it and you don't read prophecy, but you are reading descriptions of events ripped from the pages of our headlines. Take Isaiah chapter 24, for example.

It could be the prophecy about the Popes is wrong. Who knows? I read the prophecies about each pope and how they were all fulfilled, and it is indeed intriguing. All the end time tools are in place, particularly the RFID chips that they are already using in Europe to sell to kids to use as a fashion accessory, and these kids cannot eat or drink or gain access to VIP areas of night clubs in many areas in Europe without the chips.

There is another prophecy, much less talked about, but something I have heard from ear witnesses myself. There was a preacher from Kennit, MO by the name of Carroll (a guy) McGruder and I believe the meeting took place in Arkansas back in the days of when Bill Clinton was govenor of Arkansas, and he was attending a church camp meeting. Bill Clinton, as an honorary guest, was sitting on the platform with the other ministers, and Rev. McGruder was preaching his message when, unexpectedly, he turned around to Bill Clinton and prophesied, "Jesus Christ will return while you are president of the United States." Of course, the prophecy of Rev. McGruder partly came true when Bill Clinton did become president of the United States, and this story of this prophecy rumbled around again via word of mouth. Well, we all know what happened and Jesus did not return in the 90's, but consider this: Hillary Clinton WILL run for president of the United States. I don't know if it will be in 2008 or 2012, but we all know she is planning for this. We also know that, from God's prespective, the man of the household is the one who is in power (sorry ladies, it's not a sexual harassment thing, that's just the way things are) and if Hillary becomes president, in God's eyes it will be Bill who is president again. And with all the "Billary" jokes being bantered about, I would consider that a good portion of the population knows this, and that also maybe one reason why Hillary could be our first female president. All I know is the upcoming presidental elections should be very interesting.

Now consider that the current Pope, who's reign was prohesied about 500 years ago, will not reign for long, and there is already talk in the media about that fact. In other words, it is conceivable that he may die somewhere around 2008-2012, around the time a certain female president will pave the way for Bill Clinton to be president again in the eyes of God. And what will happen while "Billary" is in office and the current Pope dies? The last Pope, Peter of Rome, the last pope prophesised over 500 years ago by a saint who accurately prophesised all the popes from his time til now, will rise to power, and what did Rev. McGruder prophesy in that camp meeting 20 years ago?

Just some food for thought. Serious thought, I hope.

I would be leery of dismissing this so glibly, but for those of you who do, the Bible also talked about you as well:


2 Peter

3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation." 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, F10 (http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?passage=2pe+3&version=nkj&showtools=0#F10) not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. What some of those end time scoffers are quoted as sound much like what has been posted in this thread already!

I don't believe that we are still here because these end times prophecies are incorrect, but I believe we are here because, as the quoted verse above states, God is long suffering. I believe we are living on literal borrowed time because God is not willing that anybody would be lost. And even if Jesus Christ does not return if "Billary" gets into office, I will still believe it, as we have seen God turn away from His wrath before becasue he felt the people He was going to judge were repentant and able to be dealt with (Jonah and the whale and Nineva, for example).

[Martianinvader]

Oh, and the reason apocalyptic pessimism has come up is mainly due to the fact that the Mayan Calendar ends at 2012, even though they don't specifically state that it will end in that year. Other reason is the bible code, which I believe is a big hoax.The Bible Code predicted the death of Princess Diana (posthumously) but didn't predict 9/11....:shrug:

[Artimus Gigan]

Truthfully there are many ways to describe "the end". First you must know the end of what. The planet is certainly not going to go boom like the death star. it's pretty much impossable from any sort of natural elements currenty. "Armageddon" could simply mean the destruction of the old order and the beginning of a new one. The planet restarted itself after the Dinosaurs went extinct and certainly Humanity has the technology to avoid a species ending extinction. Yeah natural Disasters kill alot of people, but even under cataclysmic conditions there would be millions of people in other areas who remain untouched. All that Armageddon could mean is a big change in the shape of the continents. heck even if half the US suddenly became covered in water people would still survive. Ofcourse things would need to be re-arranged, but that would also be a new beginning from the remains of the old ways....or somthing

[Czar Gato]

Ah hell, we're all gonna die eventually anyway.

[Calhoun07]

Actually, "Armageddon" refers to a specific battle between good and evil in a specific location, not some vague grandiose idea of how the world is going to end.

And, no, the planet will not blow up like a Death Star soon. There will be a new Earth, on which none of the memories of the old Earth will ever come to mind, and on which the years of man will be like the years of a tree, as also described in Isaiah. The old Earth will be destroyed with fire.

[Artimus Gigan]

Actually, "Armageddon" refers to a specific battle between good and evil in a specific location, not some vague grandiose idea of how the world is going to end.

And, no, the planet will not blow up like a Death Star soon. There will be a new Earth, on which none of the memories of the old Earth will ever come to mind, and on which the years of man will be like the years of a tree, as also described in Isaiah. The old Earth will be destroyed with fire.
So what weapons will they use in the final battle?

Also the whole tree/man thing is just a way of saying that people are gonn a live forever?

Also the new earth where is it going to be in relation to the old earth, what star will it be centered by?

[Eddy]

The world was supposed to end on Y2K too.

In other words: relax.

[Squall]

The world didn't end in 2000, or 2001, and it won't end in 2012. I'll be glad when December 22, 2013 comes around, because then I won't have to hear about these predictions anymore. :p

Besides, what do the predictions mean when they say that "the world" is going to "end"? What is "the world" that will be ended -- the surface of Earth cleared? The complete destruction of the entire planet? Our solar system? Our galaxy? The entire universe? Also, "end" could mean anything as well -- the end of modern human civilization, the end of all human civilization, the extinction of the human species, the extinction of all life on Earth, etc. "End" doesn't even have to mean destruction -- it can mean change, rebirth. The very statement "the world is going to come to an end" is so vague it can mean practically anything!

On the other hand, it is true that nothing lasts forever, and all things must eventually come to an end. So, pick your poision! :)
http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm

[JetMaster5]

I'm more worried about what's happening to Earth right now, than prophecies. We've got pollution, destruction of ozone layer, and rapid consumtion of natural resources. This planet is in huge danger and it's a fact. We need to worry. We need to change this.

...Y'know, perhaps this is what they meant by apocalypse.

[Calhoun07]

So what weapons will they use in the final battle?

Also the whole tree/man thing is just a way of saying that people are gonn a live forever?

Also the new earth where is it going to be in relation to the old earth, what star will it be centered by? The Bible doesn't get into the weapons used. And I don't know about forever, but keep in mind that in Genesis people lived to be 800-900 years old. People will die in the new earth, but if they die young, it will be seen as something really terrible. And God has promised that He will destroy this world with fire and then create everything new. The meek and those who refused the mark of the beast will be those who inherit the new earth.

And here is a quote about Armageddon from a website (raptureready.com) that you might find interesting:

The battle of Armageddon is a great, future war that will be fought at Mount Megiddo. This will be the most terrifying and destructive of all wars mankind will experience. The main difference between this and other wars is that the outcome is sure: we know who the winner is! This battle will be fought by men and by spiritual forces. Jesus Christ will return in the midst of this war to prove His power and might. He wins! He will judge the nations of the world and establish His kingdom.

See Revelation, chapter 16, where the preparation for the battle is described in verses 12-16. Read also, chapters 17-20. This “battle” is the final world war and it is more than just a physical war. All of the forces of good and evil will be fighting for power. Jesus wins, and then establishes His reign on earth for one thousand years. It's not a Bruce Willis movie, it's not a meteor hitting the Earth, it's none of the vague, confusing things the world and the Prince of Darkness wants you to think it is to derail you from realizing the full power and potential of all that is happening now.



Nobody, and I stress NOBODY, can predict the exact time and day that Jesus will come back. Theologians figured out there were these "dispensations" of time and figured 7 years for the final tribulation, and that Jesus would have raptured His saints in 1993 and come back for the battle of Armageddon at the end of the 7 year tribulation. However, God does not work on our time table (that, and the calendar we use is off from that used during the time of Jesus), and keep in mind the Bible is full of examples of God giving people a time period (like Daniel's 70 weeks) and the actual time that it took for that time period to expire (I believe, if I recall correctly, that Daniel's 70 weeks was literally 70 years to us, but correct me if I am mistaken, but I do know it was not a literal 70 weeks.) Is it a coincidence that the verse about a day being as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day to God comes at the tail end of the scripture that talks about the end times and God's long suffering. And I am not quoting the prophecies of St. Malacy and Rev. McGruder as solid truth, but just something that coincides amazingly with certain things that we can see and witness as signs of the end. And I know even the best scoffers among you have probably said things like, "The end is near" as a joke when witnessing things like the unexplicable popularity of Paris Hilton and such. But if you choose to ignore the signs all around you, I don't know what to say. I don't know any days, I can't say I believe it will be a certain year, but I just see the world around us going down hill all the time, and all I know is there are signs we are told that will come before the end, and then it's just going to hit the fan. If we are still here in 2013, great. If I am still posting on this board at a ripe age of 70, great, but rest assured my belief that these things are unfolding and coming to pass in my day is not shaken.

One of the last things before the worst of it all begins: Jesus said that there would be wars and rumors of wars then talks of peace and peace and then the destruction would come. Be wary when you see the nations of the world come to any kind of peace accord in the future.

The signs have been around us for the end times since the 40's. The formation of Israel as a nation in 1948, for example, was a fulfillment of Hosea 9:10, which promised us when you saw that event, the end was right at the door. I can understand why, in our natural senses, we have grown weary waiting, but how much closer at the door is this promise now than it was in 1948! And most people who study the Bible agree the generation that witnessed this happen will not pass away until Jesus returns, and one of those persons would include my mom, and I know she is thinking a lot more about this lately. Then again, it could have been when Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967 that the generation Jesus spoke of began. In other words NOBODY KNOWS. Just know it will happen.



When the inevitable does happen, and it will, there will be those of you who turned away from this thread who will remember this later on. I just hope it's not with regret.

[Calhoun07]

I'm more worried about what's happening to Earth right now, than prophecies. We've got pollution, destruction of ozone layer, and rapid consumtion of natural resources. This planet is in huge danger and it's a fact. We need to worry. We need to change this.

...Y'know, perhaps this is what they meant by apocalypse.
You need to watch some episodes of Penn and Teller's BS. They have some good information on some of the stuff you are so worried about that is quite interesting.

[tucsoncoyote]

Man talk about a bunch of people who are really freaking out over... well nothing..

Frankly I've heard all the mumbo Jumbo hype of the 112th Pope.. and the Mayan discussion that the world will end on December 22, 2012. and that nature will have it's revenge on the 'misguided human race...yadda yadda yadda..

frankly that's fine with a lot of High Strung folks (and i can see folks looking at me thinking.. Man, He's whack.." Actually there is an Old Philosophical saying.." Take Each day as it comes.. "

Frankly some people are wound tighter then most alarm clocks.. They jump at the slightest car backfire.. and frankly my thought is this.. If it happens, hey the end of the world happens.. that' it end of story..

after all this talk of "Armageddon" and "Apocalypse" and "The End of the world" I just smirk.. after all if it happens what can we do to change it.. Nada, Zip Zilch Zero..

let's just face it.. I'm not worried if I live (or Die) Tomorrow. I could have a Heart attack writing this article.. frankly I know one thing.. No one really will miss me when I'm gone.. All this writing will be meaningless anyway. Some folks think "He's Crazy".. not really Perhaps I'm talking in the most realistic way possible..

or as i like to say if I ever do die... "Waiter Reality Check please!"

nuff said..

:coyote:

[Rook]

once we pass the 2014 mark then we are scott free...and then immortality will be the next fad...yawn.

[One Radical Dude]

Just move forward with your lives, dudes. I believe all this "end of the world" mumbo jumbo is just....well, mumbo jumbo. You can't worry for the rest of your lives about some of these things. We're all gonna die someday. It may be tomorrow, it may be next year, or several decades from now. Don't worry, be happy!!

[JetMaster5]

You need to watch some episodes of Penn and Teller's BS. They have some good information on some of the stuff you are so worried about that is quite interesting.
What episode might that be on?

[Faethie]

Dude, I call this "end of the world" nonsense babble and balderdash....mumbo jumbo...bah humbug!! I mean, I'm catholic, but this is just.....bah humbug.....rumers and stuff. Its just....not accurate sounding.:shrug:
I mean the end of the world would be cool and all *smacks head* what the heck am I saying?! That would not be cool! Duh!!!:p :sweat:
Anyhow, I just don't believe this mmbo jumbo.
So bah humbug!:p

[Calhoun07]

It is true we could all die at any moment! And the point of my posts was not to make people worry, just to think a little more and to intrigue. But if you died tomorrow, that would be the end of your world, and you'd face the same dilemma as you would if you died tomorrow or if you died when the world is destroyed with fire, and the question is are you ready to die? Which side of the coin do you choose? I don't worry about too much either, because I figure if I get to stick around to witness the end, cool, but if I drop dead tomorrow from a heart attack, then cool too, I just get to fast forward the tape to the end, IMO.

[DarkGojira]

Rover_WOW, you need to stop worrying.

Is it because of some people posting in message boards (I.E. America Online) that says, "The new pope will bring an end to the world?"

My advice: DON'T LISTEN TO THEM!!

What do they know? They're just goofy people who like to post something goofy to scare other people!

I don't believe in any kind of that stuff now, and it's getting old, completely!

Start living your lives, and stop worrying about dieing.

Everything is going to be okay.

[Rover_Wow]

there are naysayers who will always say, "Well, this happened back then and look, we are still here," is about as logical as taking a look at a pregnant woman going through labor and witnessing a contraction and concluding she will always be pregnant because every time she contracts, no baby is born. But the baby will be born, and these birth pains the earth is experiencing will culminate at some point in the future.


Not scoffing, but that's not really a good analogy, because with pregnancy, you have a pretty good idea when the baby will come out.
And that's all I'm going to say about this issue.

[Calhoun07]

Not scoffing, but that's not really a good analogy, because with pregnancy, you have a pretty good idea when the baby will come out.
And that's all I'm going to say about this issue.
It is a perfect analogy (and it is not mine, but from the Bible). It is logical that this world's birth pains will result in something, and we can have a pretty good idea when as well. The signs of the times are all about us.

[Artimus Gigan]

Here's a thought


Honestly what good would Armageddon do for everything? Yeah good is rewarded and evil is punished, but then what? Something else is eventualy going to go down at some place at sometime. Armageddon and the removal of all life in the universe is pretty much counter-productive.