C&C - Anything Else/Cards [4/2 - 4/7]

[The Landstander]

Another week, another thread.

[shoujoaifan]

Cowboy Bebop's Ep. 1 is repeating tonight.














.........I guess that kinda lost its impact a few years ago.........new Robot Chicken and Sealab tomorrow! Also the bear with the chainsaw is still chasing people around. Poor, poor bear.

[Timmay]

Why'd the reair GITS before FMA?

[Fatneck]

Why'd the reair GITS before FMA? Daylight Saving's Time

[livingfruitvirus]

Why'd the reair GITS before FMA?
GitS always re-airs at 3 AM :anime:

[shoujoaifan]

Why'd the reair GITS before FMA?Beat me to it :p Huh, wonder if they're show FMA next like it should, or are they going to to play SMC again then.

Or maybe this will be like "Rounouni Hamtaro" a few years back, and they'll start Futurama after the commercial break. It'll be "Ghost in the Future" :D

[shoujoaifan]

Daylight Saving's TimeDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMN!!! I forgot all about that.

And here I was reliving CN's past mix-up's :sweat:

[Demonic Raven]

Squidbillies in September. Damn. :shrug:

Yay for delusional fan ratings!

[Nik Jam]

DELUSIONAL ANIME FAN LOL

FG 6
GITS 13 Billion
FMA 10 Billion

DELUSIONAL COMEDY FAN LOL oh wait that's me :(

Moxy 33 Billion and 6
Space Ghost 33 Billion even
Home Movies 20 Billion

[Duke]

Those fan ratings were pretty much spot on. Gotta love Family Guy's awesome rating of 6 people.

And I think those are the highest Sunday ratings since they've started announcing them.

Meh, decent ratings for the anime combo, though I wish GitS would consistently break 400K...

[Nik Jam]

Where the heck is everyone. Oh well, it's my turn! RATINGS WITH NIK JAM!

SUNDAY MARCH 27

Family Guy #1 970,000
Robot Chicken 947,000
Family Guy #2 897,000

No Million :(

SATURDAY MARCH 26

Futurama 630,000
Full Metal Alchemist 490,000
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 353,000

Up - FG #1, FG #2, RC, FU, FMA
Down - GITS

[Demonic Raven]

Rise, ratings, rise!

Awesomeness. Almost to the millions!

[NickWhiz1]

Wowzers.

The Robot Chicken Sandwich is a resounding success.

I wonder if the new "Robot Chicken Combo" (RC/ATHF) will work out quite as well...

[KnightusMaximus]

On the poll on the [adult swim] site, the option of an "hour of Case Closed" is currently winning.

I hope it wins. :sweat: Though they should've provided a half-hour Case Closed/Lupin choice.

I'm enjoying the classic cartoon hour. I just want to see CC get some love for once. :sad:

[Killtacular]

On the poll on the [adult swim] site, the option of an "hour of Case Closed" is currently winning.

I hope it wins. :sweat:
I hope that poll means nothing and everyone who voted on it dies of a horrible disease.

[William C. Maune]

I hope that poll means nothing and everyone who voted on it dies of a horrible disease.

And what would you like to win Mr. Sunshine?

[James Bester]

And what would you like to win Mr. Sunshine?You think Matt actually prefers something on that poll? That would be really surprising if he actually did:shrug:

[Happy]

Did noone get the different channel ratings. AS in #1. yay (and Cartoon Network beating Nickalodeon, which is also a yay)

[William C. Maune]

(and Cartoon Network beating Nickalodeon, which is also a yay)

I thought that was quite the interesting part. 18-34 isn't even the main demographic CN targets (now that Adult Swim is a "separate" network), yet it still ranks about #6 out of all cable networks!

[livingfruitvirus]

Did noone get the different channel ratings. AS in #1. yay (and Cartoon Network beating Nickalodeon, which is also a yay)
Like it matters to Nick or CN.

You can also expect to see Spike TV fall a bit later this year when they lose one of cable's highest rated programs to USA.

[Killtacular]

And what would you like to win Mr. Sunshine?
I'd like to see the last shelter of classic animation on a mainstream network stay right where it is, where it can be appreciated by actual adults. Adult Swim bowing to the 12-17 demographic who boos this decision would quite possibly be their dumbest move, and I'll probably stop watching the block if they actually pull the shows just to appease those whiners, who don't even watch Adult Swim at 5 AM. I don't care if it sounds callous. I'm not losing a show of rare, some-unreleased cartoons, that's been off the air for 3 years, just so people can watch episodes of Case Closed that have only been off the air for 6 months and can be bought on DVD.

But that poll probably is a joke anyway so it doesn't matter.

[William C. Maune]

I'd like to see the last shelter of classic animation on a mainstream network stay right where it is, where it can be appreciated by actual adults.

I actually agree with that. Unfortunately I don't think not voting in the poll is going to help that happen. Hopefully the poll is just some idea they are trying and in that case hopefully they won't actually use the winner in that slot. Considering Popeye is pulling ratings as good as the late runs of the anime shows anyways, it isn't like they have any ratings issues to worry about by leaving the classics on in that slot (if they even care much about ratings at that hour).

What I'd most like to see happen is for them to revamp the last few hours of Adult Swim, instead of just continuing to rerun the first few hours. They could replace the night's second run of Trigun/Big O with Case Closed/Lupin/Gigantor, etc. and then leave the classics hour in place. That way everybody's happy (or at least more people).

[Timmay]

WHere exactly is this poll? i missed this..

[Happy]

The official Adult Swimm site, or their message board, I wouldn't know which one since I avoid that place like the plague.

[KnightusMaximus]

just so people can watch episodes of Case Closed that have only been off the air for 6 months and can be bought on DVD.As you mentioned, it is not very likely Adult Swim would actually make any changes based off the poll. All Case Closed winning would do is merely be a sign of the amount of support the show has and maybe keep it fresh on people's minds, which is the only reason I want it to win, to get something out of an otherwise useless poll.

I want 5AM to remain classic cartoons as well.. but the episodes Adult Swim aired of Case Closed cannot be purchased on DVD (except the first 4 episodes), and FUNi has no plans to put those out on DVD anytime soon either.

[Nyarl]

I'd like to see the last shelter of classic animation on a mainstream network stay right where it is, where it can be appreciated by actual adults. Adult Swim bowing to the 12-17 demographic who boos this decision would quite possibly be their dumbest move, and I'll probably stop watching the block if they actually pull the shows just to appease those whiners, who don't even watch Adult Swim at 5 AM. I don't care if it sounds callous. I'm not losing a show of rare, some-unreleased cartoons, that's been off the air for 3 years, just so people can watch episodes of Case Closed that have only been off the air for 6 months and can be bought on DVD.

But that poll probably is a joke anyway so it doesn't matter. You still can't buy DVDs of Case Closed episodes that ran on Adult Swim except the season one/volume one DVD that has been out for ages. But, it would be a shame to lose a classic animation block when all AS needs to do is to give the Trigun repeats a rest.

ETA: Beaten to the punch. Next time no editing! (heh.)

[Sketch]

On the poll on the [adult swim] site, the option of an "hour of Case Closed" is currently winning.

I hope it wins. :sweat: Though they should've provided a half-hour Case Closed/Lupin choice.

I'm enjoying the classic cartoon hour. I just want to see CC get some love for once. :sad:
I voted for classic anime. I want my Voltron dang it! Otherwise I would have voted for CC.

Gosh that would be a SUPER shaft if they gave that time to Lupin and CC in order to never have to air them durring a "good" slot again.

[Tapout]

You can also expect to see Spike TV fall a bit later this year when they lose one of cable's highest rated programs to USA.I doubt those numbers would change. Those numbers probably start at 11, right when AS starts and Raw is over. Even with Adult Swim's rise in popularity and WWE's decline, Raw is still one of, if not the, highest rated shows on cable.

And how does Adult Swim beat Cartoon Network? Even with the split, they're still not on at the same time.

Or, being the dope I am, I just completely misinterpreted the whole thing which is quite likely.

[NewLib]

From what I understand the ratings arent just 11-5. Its the average of all hours in which the station airs shows. Which would explain why CN and AS are on the same list. And if that is true Spike will take a big hit by the loss of Raw.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Wow for the gigantic sized ratings that Sunday night! The question remains.... will these ratings remain consistent for the changes made this week? (2nd Family Guy removed with replacements of ATHF and Tom.) I hope so!

As for the poll, don't know if it will matter. I remember when Tecmo held a poll to see what system they should bring the new Ninja Gaiden title for and Gamecube was the winner... of course it didn't end up on there though. :p

Back on topic though, I wouldn't be as upset as others if the classic animated shows left but I think they should just stay just to have them on for the hardcore fans of those programs. Like others said, we don't need ALL the repeat airings. I don't think it would hurt if we got rid of a second Family Guy and Futurama airing in order to let to other shows have a shot on air (whether it's classic anime, possible short series anime that they could pick up, >>>>SPACE GHOST C2C<<<<, you name it.) If not, oh well.

Also way to go Space Ghost and Moxy!!! :D ;)

[livingfruitvirus]

From what I understand the ratings arent just 11-5. Its the average of all hours in which the station airs shows. Which would explain why CN and AS are on the same list. And if that is true Spike will take a big hit by the loss of Raw.What he said. Those are all total day averages. Adult Swim and Nick at Nite are sort of cheating because AS is on 7 hours a day, Nick at Nite's on 9, thus giving them a smaller number of hours to average together, while other networks like TNT or TBS are on 24 hours a day. (other exceptions include Spike TV being on 18 hours and Comedy Central being on 21 hours)

Court TV is following this trend too by doing a Nielsen split of their own. Unlike Adult Swim/Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite, whose splits made sense due to different target audiences, Court TV's split just seems retarded.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Where the heck is everyone. Oh well, it's my turn! RATINGS WITH NIK JAM!

SUNDAY MARCH 27

Family Guy #1 970,000
Robot Chicken 947,000
Family Guy #2 897,000

No Million :(

SATURDAY MARCH 26

Futurama 630,000
Full Metal Alchemist 490,000
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 353,000

Up - FG #1, FG #2, RC, FU, FMA
Down - GITS

nice job Nik you even got the ups and downs :anime: next time I am sick be sure to fill in again :)

AS sunday goes over 900,000 for the first time ever not one but twice in the same night! that really makes me want to see what kind of bump AS saturday will be getting thanks to the network split since it didn't apply last week

but weirdness continues as FG makes the list twice strangely enough during the last week of chicken sandwich and even stranger is showing #1 in first :confused: at least Sealab wasn't there but stuff like this really messes up my whole ratings report thing I have done up until now but thats ok its still set to be posted on the 17th

[dawnyoshi]

(commenting on 5 AM slot)
meh...why are people so obsessed over CC anyway? Just get the DVDs.

Frankly, I'm not a big fan of Popeye personally, but I absolutely love Toon Heads/The Bob Clampett show. I'd say 5 for Lupin and 5:30 for TH/Clampett. Two old-schools together for those who can appreciate it at the time.

Speaking of which, I miss all that old stuff on in the afternoons. Screw Baby Looney Tunes. =/
bring back some good ol' Looney Tunes instead.

[Duke]

(commenting on 5 AM slot)
meh...why are people so obsessed over CC anyway? Just get the DVDs.If it was possible to legally get Episodes 5-52 on DVD, I'd already have them.

[jbanks97]

Aren't there over 200 episodes of Case closed?

Would you really want to spend that kind of money just to get a decent but not spectacular show on DVD?


In other news: BRING BACK CLAMPETT/TOONHEADS CN

[Duke]

Aren't there over 200 episodes of Case closed?Over 400.

Would you really want to spend that kind of money just to get a decent but not spectacular show on DVD? I personally love the show, it's my 3rd fav anime on Adult Swim (my #1 being Lupin and my #2 being GitS).

In other news: BRING BACK CLAMPETT/TOONHEADS CNClampett's on now, with Toonheads coming soon...

[vegetable]

With the demise of lfv, I'll post the ratin's. (date period ending April 3rd)

Total Viewer Average for Adult Swim (channel code: ADSM)

398,000 viewers 18-34
530,000 viewers 18-49
363,000 viewers 25-54
1,009,000 viewers 2+


Top Telecasts w/ viewers 18-34

3/30/05
Futurama - 1,097,000
Family Guy - 979,000

3/29/05
Futurama - 940,000

[Rabi~en~Rose]

With the demise of lfv, I'll post the ratin's. (date period ending April 3rd)

wait what happened to him?? :( :confused:

[Anime Freak]

wait what happened to him?? :( :confused:

Nothing,but some people are gullible enough to believe that he was actually banned. ;)

[Killtacular]

Nothing,but some people are gullible enough to believe that he was actually banned. ;)
He was actually banned and it's no joking matter, so shut up.

[shoujoaifan]

Oh boy.

I know I'm going to sound like a broken record (SORRY!), but why was he banned? I thought he was a moderator or another kind of member of Toonzone. BUT if this isn't apportiate for message board conversation, I understand. Could someone then PM me? Thank You!

BACK ON TOPIC:

Getting rid of the classics would be silly when they could always get rid of another repeat, like the 2nd airings of Inuyasha, Trigun, or Big O. HELL, they could replace all the 2nd airings with older WS shows and misc. anime.

HOW big of ratings does the 2nd airings of FG and Futurama at 2:00-3:00 get with insominacs anyway? For that matter, what's the ratings of the FIRST airing of Trigun, since they're comparing Popeye to it? I can see it doing better at 1:00 then something like WR or WHR, but that is not really saying much (Although CB has been around since Night 1, but then again that's a WS favorite.). I can see nostalgic adult insominacs and hard core animation fans staying up through the night by choice or forced to, or waking up at 5:00, but REALLY, how much ratings does 2:00-6:00 get? It DEFINATELY adds when looking at AS's 7 hour network ratings, but I think we can at least replace the 4:00-5:00 showings of TG and Big O and not "lose" any ratings but gain a little due to anime fans/nerds/whatever.

[Nyarl]

...

Getting rid of the classics would be silly when they could always get rid of another repeat, like the 2nd airings of Inuyasha, Trigun, or Big O. HELL, they could replace all the 2nd airings with older WS shows and misc. anime.

HOW big of ratings does the 2nd airings of FG and Futurama at 2:00-3:00 get with insominacs anyway? For that matter, what's the ratings of the FIRST airing of Trigun, since they're comparing Popeye to it? I can see it doing better at 1:00 then something like WR or WHR, but that is not really saying much (Although CB has been around since Night 1, but then again that's a WS favorite.). I can see nostalgic adult insominacs and hard core animation fans staying up through the night by choice or forced to, or waking up at 5:00, but REALLY, how much ratings does 2:00-6:00 get? It DEFINATELY adds when looking at AS's 7 hour network ratings, but I think we can at least replace the 4:00-5:00 showings of TG and Big O and not "lose" any ratings but gain a little due to anime fans/nerds/whatever.
Hmm, if my cable provider would run its emergency broadcast tests at a more convenient time, like, say, 9 PM, I'd like that idea better. As it is, I like the extra chance of getting a full viewing of a show.

[Tienshin]

Oh boy.

I know I'm going to sound like a broken record (SORRY!), but why was he banned? I thought he was a moderator or another kind of member of Toonzone. BUT if this isn't apportiate for message board conversation, I understand. Could someone then PM me? Thank You!

BACK ON TOPIC:


The situation isn't now or will it be in the future up for disclosure either on the forums or via PM. It was a matter that was handled between LFV and the moderation staff and as per all former members we are not at liberty to discuss it any further. At this point I am really going to have to draw the line on further disccusion about this, please let's all just drop the topic.

All that said, LFV was awesome member and a valued poster here, so it goes without saying that he will be missed.

[Sprocket]

Did anyone see a card that said that Jackson Public and Dana Snyder are doing something this Friday? And where is it taking place?

[Anime Freak]

Did anyone see a card that said that Jackson Public and Dana Snyder are doing something this Friday? And where is it taking place?

Um,who are they exactly? Maybe i've missed somthign here.

[Tienshin]

Um,who are they exactly? Maybe i've missed somthign here.

Jackson Publick: creator of Venture Bros.

Dana Synder: Voice of Master Shake.

Didn't see the card though.

VVV So beaten, dude. :cool:

[Discloner]

Um,who are they exactly? Maybe i've missed somthign here.Jackson Publick is the creator of The Venture Brothers. Not sure about Dana though...

EDIT: Curse you mod of justice. Currrrrrrse youuuu!

[Shnay]

I'm glad that Futurama and Family Guy switched again. I've said it before, but I can watch a show like Futurama over and over again and still really like it, which is not something I can say for Family Guy. I take it we're going to keep seeing these shows switch time slots every few months until (or if) something comes along and replaces one of them.

[The Dark Gundam]

I'm glad that Futurama and Family Guy switched again. I've said it before, but I can watch a show like Futurama over and over again and still really like it, which is not something I can say for Family Guy. I take it we're going to keep seeing these shows switch time slots every few months until (or if) something comes along and replaces one of them.That was a smart move, but they shouldn't have decided to replace ATHF with Harvey Birdman later this month. I was hoping they'd give it a longer time in that slot.

[Zyzzybalubah]

That was a smart move, but they shouldn't have decided to replace ATHF with Harvey Birdman later this month. I was hoping they'd give it a longer time in that slot.
Exactly. ATHF is doing great at that slot, it just doesn't make any sense. Birdman is great and I love it, but as far as I know there's just not enough episodes of it. ATHF has enough episodes and has proven to be a fan favorite. Any chances of that show being able to go into the opening weekday hour (i.e. Futurama/ATHF or Family/ATHF?) I don't know how successful SGC2C would be (couldn't be that bad) but they have more than enough episodes to air on weeknights!

[Aquadementia]

I'm glad that Futurama and Family Guy switched again. I've said it before, but I can watch a show like Futurama over and over again and still really like it, which is not something I can say for Family Guy. I take it we're going to keep seeing these shows switch time slots every few months until (or if) something comes along and replaces one of them.They were going to do the flip again sooner or later, but I liked it better the other way because I could watch The Daily Show, then Futurama.

But I don't see any of the new shows they have lined up being an adequate replacement for either FG of Futurama.

[vegetable]

Exactly. ATHF is doing great at that slot, it just doesn't make any sense. Birdman is great and I love it, but as far as I know there's just not enough episodes of it.

There are 20 episodes. That's enough to last about 3 weeks and a day. So maybe 2 runs should do it for that show.

[Master Moron]

But I don't see any of the new shows they have lined up being an adequate replacement for either FG of Futurama.

I bet American Dad will replace one of them when it has enough episodes.

[Sprocket]

I should really just check the official boards next time.

If you live in the Philadelphia area, come meet woodland Adult Swim creatures outside of their natural habitats. Starting at 10 p.m. on Saturday, April 9, the Festival of Independents will host an esteemed group of Adult Swim panelists at The Festival Cabaret (N. 800 block of N. American Street in Northern Liberties) for the Adult Swim Fan Picture Show, wherein local animators will try to impress the panel with a one-minute pitch and a one-minute short. Also featured will be the Neo Burlesque Troupe's PEEK-A-BOO REVUE, which is just naughty, and a special appearance by Trixie Little and Her Tap-Dancing Hate Monkey.

The Philadelphia panel consists of:

DANA SNYDER, voice of Master Shake, Aqua Teen
ERIC WAREHEIM, voice of The Mayor and co-creator of Tom Goes to the Mayor
JACKSON PUBLICK, creator, Venture Bros.
DOC HAMMER, writer and editor, Venture Bros.
JAY EDWARDS, producer, Aqua Teen
NED HASTINGS, editor, Aqua Teen
CHRISTIAN DANLEY, character designer, Sealab 2021


Tickets are $10. Must be 21 or over. Proceeds go to: ActionAIDS, The Philadelphia Film Society, Philadelphia Volunteer Lawyers in the Arts, Women in Transition and the William Way Community Center.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

lol at [adult $wim]

also is it just me or has AS been having audio problems all week :confused:

[vegetable]

Younger Viewers Ratings For Adult Swim (ADSM)
Rating Period: Mar 28 - Apr 3

Viewers 12-24

3/30/05
Futurama - 1,300,000

3/29/05
Futurama - 1,290,000

Viewers 12-17

3/30/05
Futurama - 760,000
Family Guy - 730,000

3/31/05
Family Guy - 700,000

3/28/05
Family Guy - 660,000
Futurama - 650,000

[Swordfish_II]

Accoring to a user over at the AS.com boards, effictive May 1st the 5AM block will be Case Closed followed by Lupin.

And yes I trust this because he also mentioned the Popeye/Bob Clampett/Toon Heads stuff the day before it got mentioned here.

But I will hesitate on making a new thread at the moment, though.

[Killtacular]

Thanks Adult Swim for making another reason not to turn on my TV.

[Beat]

So Case Closed and Lupin have effectively been written off AND the classic fans are left high and dry?

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

[MrBananagrabber]

Thanks Adult Swim for making another reason not to turn on my TV.
Yeah, I'm annoyed too. I love Conan and all, but it doesn't hold a candle to those classics.

[William C. Maune]

One interesting thing, this confirms they still somehow have Lupin.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I don't know what to say. I'm glad Case Closed and Lupin are back, but I'm really upset to see the classics go.



WHY CAN'T THEY GET RID OF THE FREAKING ENCORE AIRINGS, MOVE THE 5AM Block to 2AM, AND THEN AIR THREE HOURS OF OTHER PROGRAMMING, INCLUDING CLASSICS?

Jesus Christ.

[Demonic Raven]

Eh, this doesn't effect me one bit, but classic animation fans are going to get pissed.

It's possible that it got poor ratings. Yes, it sounds stupid, because it's so early in the morning and such, but maybe AS wanted to at least get a little bit better then abysmal for those slots. Who knows, really.

[Tienshin]

Eh, this doesn't effect me one bit, but classic animation fans are going to get pissed.

It's possible that it got poor ratings. Yes, it sounds stupid, because it's so early in the morning and such, but maybe AS wanted to at least get a little bit better then abysmal for those slots. Who knows, really.

AS did mention in a card that the current lineup including the classics was only temporary. For those interested it appears ToonHeads will join the Boomerang lineup on 4/18/05 I beleive. Maybe they will shift Popeye and The Bob Clampett show over to Boomerang as well.

[Master Moron]

Eh, this doesn't effect me one bit, but classic animation fans are going to get pissed.

It's possible that it got poor ratings. Yes, it sounds stupid, because it's so early in the morning and such, but maybe AS wanted to at least get a little bit better then abysmal for those slots. Who knows, really.

Well, I wonder what ratings Time Squad and Captain Planet got in the 18-34 demographics? You know, as much as I wanted Case Closed back, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with a 5 in the morning airing...

[dawnyoshi]

couldn't they have just put Lupin on over popeye and left that last half hour open to classic fans? In all honesty, I'd of loved to watch some classic Warner Brothers animation and learn up on the trivia and stories behind those cartoons. I LOVE TOONHEADS. =/

but nope. CC again. Wee...that means I can get to sleep earlier and not miss Japanese class. Cool.

[Nyarl]

Did anyone else notice the short bespectacled jacket and bow-tie wearing Japanese detective pig Motto chasing the Phantom during one of the recent Clampett shorts? Heh, was that a foreshadowing of the unfortunate change in schedule?

[vegetable]

WHY CAN'T THEY GET RID OF THE FREAKING ENCORE AIRINGS, MOVE THE 5AM Block to 2AM, AND THEN AIR THREE HOURS OF OTHER PROGRAMMING, INCLUDING CLASSICS?

Jesus Christ.
Who cares? No one's up.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Who cares? No one's up.
So why not air differing programming rather than those stupid encores?

[shoujoaifan]

The situation isn't now or will it be in the future up for disclosure either on the forums or via PM. It was a matter that was handled between LFV and the moderation staff and as per all former members we are not at liberty to discuss it any further. At this point I am really going to have to draw the line on further disccusion about this, please let's all just drop the topic.

All that said, LFV was awesome member and a valued poster here, so it goes without saying that he will be missed.Thanks, gotcha!

So long LivingFruitVirus. Keep it real.