Nintendo makes me feel cheated of my money.

[Snailbait]

It was November 2004. Like many others, I was very anxious about the Nintendo DS launch. I had pre-ordered mine, and I was ready to fork over the 150 smackers on the 21st. And I got it, without having to wait in a line.
For a while, I loved it. However, as time went by, my interest in the dual-screened handheld steadily decreased. And now that I own the PSP, I can't bear to look at my DS. I honestly wish I would have waited -- the DS just isn't working for me. The hardware, graphics, etc. of the DS were dandy then, but it's plain to see the PSP is much better.
But I'm getting off topic here. The issue at hand is that there are rumors flying around that Nintendo's workin' on their next Game Boy, referred to as the "Game Boy Evolution". If this is true, I want to know if the graphics will be as good as PSP's. I honestly doubt they will. How can Nintendo have two handhelds out at once? I feel extremely cheated by this. I'm losing faith in Nintendo. Their so called innovation is unimpressive. They don't have enough software! The only game truly worth buying is Mario 64 DS, which doesn't honestly use the DS's features!
It's been said before, by this time next year, the DS will probably be utterly DEAD.
Anyone else feel the same way?

[Artimus Gigan]

Well good A grade titles are coming to the DS...but it will be a bit.

If either handheld fails, it'll be the next Dreamcast. Appreciated after it's demise.

[Chad Bonin]

The DS is not in the same race as the PSP. One's a crazily capable traditional handheld, one's an inventive sunova.

[tigerrunner]

The DS is not in the same race as the PSP. One's a crazily capable traditional handheld, one's an inventive sunova.
Yeah, but that's not gonna stop anybody from comparing the two, and (if the PSP does better) speculating the end of Nintendo (which pisses me off- I'm not some extreme Nintendo fanboy who can't stand anything non-Nintendo, but I like the company enough to get annoyed when people try to finish it off).

To be honest, I love my DS, and the touch screen has to be one of the greatest innovations in video gaming (and a lotta fun). The one thing I hate about my DS is the lack of titles. Nintendo should've learned from Gamecube's release to secure a good amount of release titles (especially considering it was released during the holidays, when people would possibly splurge on more titles for their new system)- especially if there was lackluster 3rd party support. But no. The only title I'm planning on buying (when it comes out- not waiting for it to be cheaper) with an actual release date (that I know of) is the new Kirby game, and that's coming out in June 13. When I get it, I'll have 3 DS titles total. Pathetic.

[Demonic Raven]

Once Animal Crossing comes out with online capabilities you will see...you will ALL see.... I'm not crazy! It's everyone else that's crazy! *rabid mouth foaming*

Alright, I'll admit the amount of games has been pretty low so far. So far I only have 3 DS games (SM64, WWTouched, and Yoshi T&G) plus the MP Demo. It's not that terrible. At least I can say for sure that much better things are on the horizon, but people are being kind of impatient as far as the DS goes.

[Invader_Spooch]

To be honest, I love my DS, and the touch screen has to be one of the greatest innovations in video gaming (and a lotta fun).
You do realize that the Game.com (from Tiger) had a touch screen long before Nintendo, along with many PDAs, correct?

There isn't anything innovative about it.

And the touch screen was done by Nintendo back in the day on their old LCD games (a Mario one I believe).

[Chad Bonin]

Yes, there were touch games before, but the DS is the first one to incredibly use it well.

While pagers had rumble technology, it's really hard to argue that Nintendo 64 really didn't pioneer it's use.

[Homesick_Alien]

(if the PSP does better). [snip] No need for that, i think you mean when ;)

I was talking to a friend today as we where playin with it ( i bought it, not him. i also own a DS)
And the question arose. " How the hell can Nintendo even begin to compare with this?" The answer was simple, it can't. Im also pondering what they where thinking when they looked at the PSP the first time, do you think there jaws dropped like mine did? or where they more of the silent " oh #W(*& " type?

Just imagine what the psp will be able to do when they know what it can do alittle more and they can optimize the games and make them look even better than now...the DS...sadly falls way too short for me to care anymore...oh the bright side, anyone wanting to buy a DS? :D



Yes, there were touch games before, but the DS is the first one to incredibly use it well.
Too bad they coudnt make it work on Mario DS...

[Chad Bonin]

Im also pondering what they where thinking when they looked at the PSP the first time, do you think there jaws dropped like mine did? or where they more of the silent " oh #W(*& " type?They probably said "Huh. Good thing it'll be outdated when the next Gameboy comes out."

And then Reggie punched somebody.

Too bad they coudnt make it work on Mario DS...ARguable. I honestly prefer the Analog Simulation on the DS than Sony's Analog Disc. I've tried playing Twisted Metal: Head On with it, which doesn't work well. Shame, because Darkstalkers is incredibly hard in the fireball motion department when it comes to the d-pad, and the analog disc is unusable.

Sony's damn d-pad. Why does it have to be segmented?

[Invader_Spooch]

Sony's damn d-pad. Why does it have to be segmented?"ARguable". I honestly prefer the [Analog Joystick] on the [PSP] than [Nintendo's Analog Simulation]. I've tried playing [Super Mario 64 DS] with it, which doesn't work well.

There we go.:D

They probably said "Huh. Good thing it'll be outdated when the next Gameboy comes out."

And then Reggie punched somebody.
Sure it will be. ^^ Just like the PSone was when the N64 came out, which SURELY guaranteed Nintendo's victory. Whatever helps you sleep at night, bucko. :p

Oh, and Reggie is a massive Black and Decker Power tool.

[Batman's Biggest Fan]

I'm predicting this topic will be locked, as it is turning into a battle of the fanboys. Anyway I can honestly say I'm rooting for Nintendo this battle as if Sony wins then Nintendo's done for. I like both Nintendo and Sony, but I will be really mad at Sony if they make Nintendo go out of buisness.

[ShawnHopkins]

You do realize that the Game.com (from Tiger) had a touch screen long before Nintendo, along with many PDAs, correct?

There isn't anything innovative about it.

I remember that as one of the few redeeming features of the Game.Com. It was fun to play Lights Out on it.

I don't think Nintendo is positioning the DS against the PSP, because the DS would lose. It's a niche product, a cool new toy. Nintendo's main fight will be with the traditional Game Boy and whatever the new product they have coming is.

[Batman's Biggest Fan]

I'm wondering why nobody is doing GBA SP vs. PSP comparison? Well obviously everyone would say PSP, but I think GBA SP despite the DS selling very well and PSP just coming out. I think the Game Boy Advance is still having strong sales.

[Mr Cat Dog]

Nintendo said themselves that the time when graphics ruled their console development is now long gone, so bsaically, they're putting all their eggs in one basket full of innovation. Whilst the touch screen works perfectly with games such as Wario Ware, it doesn't quite have the same effect as SM64, well, in the adventure at least.

The GB Revolution probably will haev similar graphics to the PSP, but by that time, there'll probably be some new console in development by Sony. :sad:

[Killtacular]

The GBA2 is an extremely retarded concept to be developing and it will cement Nintendo's destruction of all they've achieved in the handheld industry. They have done seemingly everything in their power to chase away developers, while giving the remaining ones confusing hurdles to program through in the name of "innovation." The DS' library is reminding me all too much of the Neo Geo Pocket; a system frontloaded with first party software that crashed a year down the road because noone else wanted to develop. And the DS will never find developers if the GBA2 comes to fruition within the next year, because developers will skip right over it (unless the GBA2 is also "revolutionary", in which case the developers will go to Sony instead).

So the DS is an online system. Well the PSP is too, and it will have far more online titles, not to mention Kai tunneling for all of their Ad Hoc games. Would gamers rather be playing Tony Hawk UG3 online or.. Snowboard Kids DS? I mean, come on.

The DS will have PDA tools. That you have to buy. This is Nintendo's attempt to salvage the DS' image at the last second by needlessly retooling it and claiming that this is what they always intended it to be. Too bad Sony is giving PDA tools to PSP gamers over a firmware update FOR FREE. What is Nintendo going to sell next, bottled water?

[Curt]

So the DS is an online system. Well the PSP is too, and it will have far more online titles, not to mention Kai tunneling for all of their Ad Hoc games. Would gamers rather be playing Tony Hawk UG3 online or.. Snowboard Kids DS? I mean, come on.
I can play any of the Tony Hawk games, for cheap, on any of my systems. They're all the same damn thing. I'd rather play a new game than a port of something already on the market.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Would gamers rather be playing Tony Hawk UG3 online or.. Snowboard Kids DS? I mean, come on.
Who says an online version of THUG 3 isn't coming to DS? Activision develops the Tony Hawk games for nearly EVERY console (even the N-Gage received a title or two.) Then again, they held off on Xbox at first despite it being an online console.

As for the DS, yeah I held off buying one right away especially since they claimed this wasn't a successor to Gameboy and that they would release another GB in the future. It looks tempting (less tempting now that PSP is out) but I'd say that $150 and $250 (PSP) are WAAY too much for a handheld system. IMO handhelds are supposed to be inexpensive, for me no more than $100. I appreciate Sony and Nintendo's new attempts at making handheld portable games look more like today's consoles though.

It's ashame when people buy console's earlier. IMO home game consoles (especially PS2 when it first launched) are not worth more than $200 retail price unless they include a game. The best thing to do with any type of game console is to wait until a reasonable amount of game titles are out for the system before blowing the money and buying one right away. That's why I'm holding off on Nintendo DS and PSP, there are only a few titles that appear worthy of buying for both at the moment, once more are actually released I may purchase one when there is a price drop (PSP might take awhile and if DS is going the direction it's going, I'll just wait till it's discontinued and I can buy one at an affordable price.)

[Sigma]

I love my DS and don't regret buying one on launch one bit. I do however like the PSP alot more right now due to the simple fact that it has more good games out right now. The DS will have it's Castlevania, Metroid, Mario, Animal Crossing, Katamari Damacy DS, and possibly Zelda, but the gap between those releases are sure to be big.

Nintendo will not give up the handheld market without a fight so expect to see a new Gameboy shown at E3 with graphics to rival that of the PSP. The PSP is a great system and the fight will be a tough one for Nintendo, but in the mean time I will enjoy the great games on both platforms.

[Killtacular]

Who says an online version of THUG 3 isn't coming to DS?
Have you taken a look at the differences between the Spiderman 2 DS game and the Spiderman 2 PSP game? One is a 2.5D 32x-quality game and the other is an actual port of the PS2 title. They're completely different games.

"Multiplatform" doesn't exist in handhelds. You can't just develop one game for both systems, you have to develop two separate games with their own development staffs. It's not cost effective and noone's going to do it.

IMO home game consoles (especially PS2 when it first launched) are not worth more than $200 retail price unless they include a game.
Are you joking? We get off so easy. Do you know how much it costs to produce those systems? Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo sell their systems at a LOSS. They don't PROFIT on hardware. They profit on software sales. For Sony this is especially true.

I can play any of the Tony Hawk games, for cheap, on any of my systems. They're all the same damn thing. I'd rather play a new game than a port of something already on the market.
It was the first thing to come to mind, but there are more original titles coming like Free Running, Fired Up, Bomberman, and Coded Arms.

Nintendo will not give up the handheld market without a fight so expect to see a new Gameboy shown at E3 with graphics to rival that of the PSP.
But see that's what I'm getting at. Why did you buy a DS? If the new GBA is to compete with PSP then it will have the same Wi-Fi connectivity that the DS does along with other crap handheld systems don't really need (UMD movie playing is still retarded to me).

The DS was rendered useless before it was even launched.

[Beat]

Comparing a PSP to a DS is like comparing a Lamborghini to a prototype fuel-cell car. The Lamborghini brings performance out the ying-yang, but it for the most part, a conventional vehicle. The fuel-cell car is new and innovative, but in a straight race, will never hit Lamborghini speed.

[Snailbait]

That's what I'm saying too. Why even buy a DS when Nintendo's already a got a better system coming out not even one year after?

[Chad Bonin]

That's what I'm saying too. Why even buy a DS when Nintendo's already a got a better system coming out not even one year after?Different line of product. Going by Nintendo's "Three Pillars" mission statement...

(Consoles) NES -> SNES -> N64 -> GCN -> Nintendo Revolution
(Handheld) Gameboy -> Gameboy Color -> Gameboy Advance -> The next Gameboy.
(Innovation) Virtual Boy -> Nintendo DS

The DS is not the sequel, or replacement, to the GBA. The DS is also not, according to this mission, the competitor to the PSP. Some may look at Nintendo having jumped the DS to shelves as a way to stopgap the PSP (which may have worked, given the abundances of PSPs and relative rarity of DSes).

Saying you wouldn't get the DS is equivalent to saying "Why get a Gameboy Advance SP right now? The Nintendo Revolution will be out next year...".

Come 2006, we'll be seeing games for the Nintendo DS, the next Gameboy, and Nintendo Revolution.

[Obi]

I feel completely satisfied with my DS even though it will probably be obsolete by December 2005, even if it's for only one reason: Feel the Magic XY/XX. I love this game too much to not have a DS.

[Homesick_Alien]

I feel completely satisfied with my DS even though it will probably be obsolete by December 2005, even if it's for only one reason: Feel the Magic XY/XX. I love this game too much to not have a DS.Yeah, the DS has some really fun games like that, but i dont think it'll last too long though ya know. I think christmas will be the big selling time for PSP. It's when everyone has the extra money ya know, cause not everyone has a spare 250 ( or 400+ with the games you want for it ) cause everyone got the DS's around christmas time, thats why there still selling now, because people are trying to get them still from chirstmas when they couldnt.:narf:

[Snailbait]

Yeah, I know all about the "third pillar" thing, buy still...come on. If their new handheld is better at all, why did I buy a DS? They can be separated into different groups, sure -- but they're still both handhelds. And I want the Nintendo handheld, whatever it may be. I don't like the idea of two handhelds at once.

And while you're at it, move Revolution into the "Innovative" column, too -- Nintendo is trying to innovate with it as well. See what I'm saying here? If Nintendo innovates every system from now on, then there's no third pillar going by what you say. There's just one pillar. I think there's really only one pillar anyway: games. It should stay that way. One handheld and one console is enough.

[guinaevere]

Are you joking? We get off so easy. Do you know how much it costs to produce those systems? Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo sell their systems at a LOSS. They don't PROFIT on hardware. They profit on software sales. For Sony this is especially true.Very true.

BUT it doesn't necessarily follow that a consumer who watches his budget should feel obliged to buy a product because of that. If $200 and over is too much in their mind, then it's too much. Whether the company takes a hit at that price point or not.

[Killtacular]

The DS is not the sequel, or replacement, to the GBA. The DS is also not, according to this mission, the competitor to the PSP.
That is why it's a failure. It isn't anything. It has no identity. It's "that other handheld."

[Homesick_Alien]

One handheld and one console is enough.
Well, i bought the DS thinking that the PSP couldnt come close to it, but then is started looking things up about it, seeing the videos, screen shots, and all the things it could do and it just made me want a PSP more than the DS i already had. Not to mention i played my DS for about a day and then i was tired of it...

I think im going to try to sell it to someone that i know or something like that...im not really too sure at this point.

(w00t, 200)

[William C. Maune]

That's what I'm saying too. Why even buy a DS when Nintendo's already a got a better system coming out not even one year after?

While it could happen, there is currently no information stating that a new Nintendo handheld is coming out within a year of the DS. They have stated they are working on the next Gameboy, but that doesn't mean it is coming out any time soon.

[Demonic Raven]

I'm predicting a 2006 release, probably summer, since it's the GB's traditional release time. They would be fools to release it within a year of the DS's arrival. Fools Nintendo is not.

[Snailbait]

Still, "Game Boy in summer 2006" is not very fair to me. Maybe it's just me.

[Obi]

Nintendo has done a ton of foolish things in the past. What's to stop them?



(Although I'll still buy a GBA2 if it comes out later this year, mostly because you probably won't be able to play GBA2 games on a DS).

[Obi]

Still, "Game Boy in summer 2006" is not very fair to me. Maybe it's just me.
Summer of 2006 is a full year away and will have been 1 1/2 years since the DS came out. How is that "not fair"?

[William C. Maune]

Still, "Game Boy in summer 2006" is not very fair to me. Maybe it's just me.

And that still was only a guess. Unlike the Nintendo Revolution which has had a generally known release period for awhile, there is currently no known timetable for the release of the next Game Boy.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Summer of 2006 is a full year away and will have been 1 1/2 years since the DS came out. How is that "not fair"?
DS came out about 3 years after GBA, that is half the life time of DS if it is true that the DS is going to get it's life shortened due to the next GB. While I even think 3 years is a bit short for a system's life span, it is much more reasonable than having a year and a half, that's almost what Sega did to their loyal owners with 32X (maybe less time) for when they released the Sega Saturn. IMO with DS and GBA 2/Next/whatever, it seems like the only ones they're trying to compete with is thereselves (like 32X did with Saturn because PS1 whooped both systems.)

[William C. Maune]

Plus, if Nintendo does stick with the "three pillars" strategy, releasing DS' halfway between the release of Game Boys keeps the handhelds spread out as much as possible. Support for the GBA as of yet has not shown any signs of slowing down. It should have plenty of life left in it for now.

[Jasmine_G.]

My brother recently bought a nintendo ds, after about a week it was gaining dust under his bed. Now, 2 weeks later, he's begging my mom for the psp.
Oh the irony! :shrug:

As Daffy Duck would say,

" This Is Dethpicable ! " :daffy:

[AdamYJ]

Y'know, I really don't care for getting either of them.

I'll just keep playing my regular ol' GBA, thank you very much.

[Artimus Gigan]

I've been pretty much using my DS as an upgrade for my GBA SP...

I really don't think the three pillars stratagy will work for Nintendo, mainly because the GBA2 would have to be non-backwards compatable for GBA games. Because if the GBA2 is backwards compatable then that means the DS is pretty much the watered-doawn version(game-wise) of it's breathren. Nobody wants a PDA with the Nintendo logo, Nintendo is synotimous with games, if people want a PDA then they'll get a blackberry. Sony can have different eletronic devices with it's logo because that's what it is, an eletronics company with different branches.

I swear that this is Sega Genesis/32X/CD all over again...

they speak of unifying the DS, GBA2, and Revolution into one supersystem....

[Eddy]

True, there isn't a wide selection of quality games available for the DS. Currently the only two DS games I have are Super Mario 64 DS and WarioWare. But we do have some good games to look forward to like Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Mario Bros., Sonic and Viewtiful Joe. Only problem is we have to WAIT for all this good games.

I'm not saying the DS will be the next Virtual Boy (because the DS is actually selling). But as soon as the new Game Boy comes out I don't think we'll see much DS support, regardless of what Nintendo has said.

[Strollymonster]

I don't particularly care about EITHER, since neither has a price I'm willing to pay for games I'm not interested in...

The PSP irks me because of the game prices and the useless movie-playing feature...I'm not going to buy movies I already own specifically to watch them on a tiny screen. The song-playing function is pretty throwaway, as well, to be honest. Nice graphics and sound, but not much else. Also, I'm sure that screen will be super-easy to scratch up over time. My pre-SP Gameboys can attest to that.

The DS isn't something I care about yet because, while I appreciate innovation, I expect something more revolutionary than Wario Ware to exploit it. It does have the advantage of a huge built-in library out of the gate, but I buy systems to play new games.

Lastly, both are too costly to even consider buying without a killer app or two. I'd rather pay for my rent and insurance, thank ye.

I'll take a "watch and wait" attitude for this little handheld war and see what comes up at E3...hopefully the Big N is coming up with something a little more modern than the DS to combat the PSP...and they'd better have a "DS Trade-In" program if they know what's good for them.

[Artimus Gigan]

I think that the PSP is pretty much going to be able to topple the DS due to it's overwhelming support fromt he start. I mean Phantasy Star PSP has a fairly good chance at happening. Nintendo is going to need a big name RPG to counter that, sofar they have Final Fantasy 3 for the DS and Fire Emblem for the GBA. However they arn't coming down the tubes for awhile...


Then it will be interesting to see what happens with the GBA2 and The Revolution. GC has pretty much been lacking support, it's got the smallest number of titles in it's library and no on-line support. If The DS fails that could easily be strike two. The Revolution and GBA2 could easily come too little too late, and wind up like Dreamcast.

And then Nintendo would wind up like Sega and Atari before it...

[William C. Maune]

Then it will be interesting to see what happens with the GBA2 and The Revolution. GC has pretty much been lacking support, it's got the smallest number of titles in it's library and no on-line support. If The DS fails that could easily be strike two. The Revolution and GBA2 could easily come too little too late, and wind up like Dreamcast.

And then Nintendo would wind up like Sega and Atari before it...

The GameCube may have less titles, but it isn't significantly hurting the company's bottom line. Nintendo is still profitable and they've already sold over 5 million DS'. Nintendo is nowhere near a scenario where it would end up like Sega or Dreamcast. There is no need for these predictions of doom.

[Chad Bonin]

I mean Phantasy Star PSP has a fairly good chance at happening. Nintendo is going to need a big name RPG to counter that,Phantasy Star is far from a kiler app RPG.

Nintendo's got a Pokémon game coming out for the DS. That'd easily sell much better than Phantasy Star PSP, even if there are more PSPs out there (which as of know, ain't).

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Pokemon Diamond and Pearl are coming out for the DS. Does anyone really think Nintendo would throw its biggest franchise's next big installment on a system and then abandon that system within two months?

Plus, those two games will outsell the PSP itself. Never underestimate the power of Pokemon to sell not only games, but to sell systems merely by its presence on that system.

[ZeroFate]

Never underestimate the power of Pokemon to sell not only games, but to sell systems merely by its presence on that system. The same can be said for Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core and GTA: Liberty City.

[Beat]

Pokemon may reel in the kids, but no 18-34 would be caught dead with a Pokemon game. If Sony can deliver an alternative killer app, this might be different.

[William C. Maune]

Pokemon may reel in the kids, but no 18-34 would be caught dead with a Pokemon game.

I think Duke would have to disagree with that.

[Curt]

^I'm 20 years old, and I'm a damn proud Pokemon fan. I'm not afraid of playing it in public, because you know what? Most people won't give a crap that you're playing a Pokemon game. You shouldn't be ashamed of something you enjoy.

[Chad Bonin]

I think Duke would have to disagree with that.And people in the KSU Student Center.

[Obi]

Pokemon may reel in the kids, but no 18-34 would be caught dead with a Pokemon game. If Sony can deliver an alternative killer app, this might be different.
Who are you kidding? There are tons of adult Pokemon fans.


A lot of teens will end up buying Diamond and Pearl too, since they were the generation who grew up with Red and Blue. People may look at you strangely if you're above 10 and still watch the show, but I haven't met ANYBODY who thinks its weird to play Pokemon video games.

[Andy Mancini]

I'm sorry, but I fail to see what there is to argue about at this stage of the game. Both the PSP and the DS are both running on promises and nothing more. I know it's easy to draw conclusions based on those promises, but come on. Sony fanboys already have the "evil" Nintendo out of business, and the Nintendo fanboys can already see the PSPs marked half off at the Big Lots. I honestly think that all PSP vs. DS arguments should be banned Internet-wide until Halloween, giving each system (and company) the time to show off. As for me... give me a SP and a GP32 (gotta love homebrew) and I'll be happy.

[maximumzero]

I think Duke would have to disagree with that.

I think I would have to disagree with that.

= 19

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I'll be 18 when D & P come out, and I'll definitely be getting them.

[ZeroFate]

Any senior citizens wanna chime in and say they're getting the next Pokemon games that are released? I don't think the point is nearly getting across until you guys say something...

[T.T.Raven4]

I have always loved Nintendo. From the day I begged my dad to get me a Nintendo, to the day I got my DS, and on, I have loved it.

Sadly, Nothing lasts forever. Nintendo is losing a lot due to the PSP. The PSP has PS2 graphics whereas DS has 64 graphics. It's a crying shame. I guarantee Nintendo is losing money to the PSP and it's sad. I just hope they can back themselves up.

[Demonic Raven]

Have numbers for the PSP come out yet? And perhaps we can get some DS numbers for a comparison.

[William C. Maune]

Sadly, Nothing lasts forever. Nintendo is losing a lot due to the PSP. The PSP has PS2 graphics whereas DS has 64 graphics. It's a crying shame. I guarantee Nintendo is losing money to the PSP and it's sad. I just hope they can back themselves up.

Nintendo can't be losing money to the PSP at this point. The DS has been out for a few months and sold 5 million units. The PSP hasn't even been out for a week. Nintendo may lose money to the PSP in the future, alternatively, they may not. However, they can't have really lost any money to it yet.

[Snailbait]

This isn't just about the PSP.
If they wait until later in 2006 (for the GameBoy), I will be a little more happy about it. Looking back, I remember buying an SP on the launch date and a DS on the launch date feeling fine about it. So maybe I'm in the wrong here.

[Strollymonster]

Graphical prowess guarantees nothing...I believe the 3DO, Neo Geo, Sega Saturn, and countless other failed consoles would show that.

[Vivace]

I think there's room for two handhelds in this world of ours. Heck, there are 3 consoles each of them have a newer verison on the line. Both have their merits, touch screen will be great once it is properly intergrated in the games but until then it's 'just a gimmick.' Not to say that it is a gimmick, it's just that at this point and time it's not worth getting in my book. Once I have the money, I will get a PSP as the firmware updates will give me a reason to bring it to school (Word processing) and after I get a good sized memory stick DUO I don't have to worry about UMD movies because I can just copy and transfer them into MPG4 format. I personally own all three consoles but my personal favorite is the Xbox, followed by the PS2, and then with the Nintendo. I have always supported Nintendo in everything they do because they are a quality company and I don't see them going anywhere for a while. Even if they go the way of Sega that won't be horrible. If you remember, hardware is sold at a loss and even if Nintendo can't make consoles and handhelds without them flopping they will still make good, quality games, which are sold at a profit. I'll get a GBA2 and a PSP and support those products. I do not think I will support the DS as I have no interest in their games right now and I'm not too happy on waiting while it dusts over.

In the end I think both systems (or atleast both companies) can coinside together and compete without killing one another. Gaming is the biggest industry. It beats both Music and Movies so I think there is enough room to share.

So one person perfer's the DS, so what? So one person perfers the PSP, so what?

[William C. Maune]

Reggie Speaks!

According to a story found here (http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4623), Reggie recently was interviewed by CBS Marketwatch. They also have a link to the 6 minute interview. A few highlights:

- There are no new handhelds on the horizon. (I assume this means the next evolution of the Game Boy won't be here any time soon)
- DS and GBA SP sales are still strong.
- 2 million DS's sold in the U.S. so far.
- Will soon announce that the GBA has sold more total units than the PS2.

[Martianinvader]

2 million? You guys have been saying it was 5.....

[Demonic Raven]

2 million is just in the US alone. 5 million sounds more like a worldwide number, Whether they broke that point or not I don't know...

[Snailbait]

Looks like there's not another Game Boy after all.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well, atleast they're focusing on the DS...

just wish they'd hurry up on their release scedual...

[James_Batista]

I'll take a "watch and wait" attitude for this little handheld war and see what comes up at E3

Me too. My birthday's on the 25th of October, so hopefully I'll be able to make my judgment on which handheld has the better-looking titles.