View Full Version : PSP UMD movies!!!
solarflere
03-26-2005, 11:01 PM
UMD Movies are coming and they are going to stay. So far Sony Pictures has released Hellboy (Director's Cut), House of Flying Daggers, Resident Evil-Apocalypse, XXX, and Once Upon a Time in Mexico. Amazon.com will have them on April 19th. They already made discounts on all of the above UMD's from $19.95 to $13.97 and House of Flying Daggers from $28.95 to $20.27.
With the recent purchase of Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Sony will release the following titles on UMD format as well: National Treasure, Pirates of The Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, Reign of Fire, Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Hero. More will follow.
So who ever said that PSP will not hold its own weight with movies, you can start eating your words. And with the recent Amazon.com discounts, UMD versions are now cheaper that DVD versions.
Chad Bonin
03-26-2005, 11:03 PM
Just because they're available doesn't mean they'll succeed; the only one I ever plan to own is the free Spidey 2, and I'll probably never watch it.
Nintendo heavily supported the e-Reader, and, well...
solarflere
03-26-2005, 11:06 PM
Just because they're available doesn't mean they'll succeed; the only one I ever plan to own is the free Spidey 2, and I'll probably never watch it.
Nintendo heavily supported the e-Reader, and, well... You will see. Everyone will be getting them. It will be the new hype. It will show PSP true fan power.
Nintendo does not have Hollywood weight on its side, nor the money.
You will see. Everyone will be getting them. It will be the new hype. It will show PSP true fan power.
Nintendo does not have Hollywood weight on its side, nor the money. No, everyone will be buying DVD's. Why? Because they're more "universal" than the UMD's. You can play DVD's on laptops, tabletop DVD players, portable DVD players, home computer DVD players, or to be more specific, any DVD player. You can play UMD's on only one object, a PSP. I'm all for the PSP, but UMD movies have a slim chance of being a success. It's a nice feature, but I don't see Sony going out of their way to make UMD movies worth-while on it's own.
Artimus Gigan
03-27-2005, 12:36 AM
Meh I didn't support GBA Video, I'm not really going to support this...
I wanted a handheld gaming device(and possibly an MP3player) but not a portable movie machine...and I'll probably get a stand alone MP3 player down the road
I mean I pretty much replaced my PS2 from my main DVD player to a secondary one. I hardly ever use it for movies.
Sigma
03-27-2005, 12:39 AM
I don't see UMD movies being a huge success, but I don't see them as being a failure either. People who travel often will find the UMD movies to be a nice way to kill the time while on a plane or in Iraq (millitary folk). Plus there are nerds like myself who will buy them for the sheer novelty of it. I plan on getting Hellboy, Pirates of the Carribean, Kill Bill, Hero, and House of the Flying Daggers. I even own them all on DVD with the exception of House of the Flying Daggers because it isn't out yet.
True Noir
03-27-2005, 12:46 AM
Yes! I mean, damn, that's really expensive but Kill Bill, House of a Flying Daggers, and Hero on UMD. That's great. Still, I might just stick to buying dvds for my DVD portable instead of my PSP.
TwoPossums
03-27-2005, 01:12 AM
My only problem is gonna be with Subtitles. I like to watch my foriegn movies in the original language so movies like Hero and House of Flying Daggers might be a problem.
TwoPossums
Funkatron
03-27-2005, 01:26 AM
When the heck did Sony get Beuna Vista?!?!
solarflere
03-27-2005, 08:20 AM
My only problem is gonna be with Subtitles. I like to watch my foriegn movies in the original language so movies like Hero and House of Flying Daggers might be a problem.
They will probably have dubded versions like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
BTW, Lions Gate and Disney will be releasing UMD's as well.
Dogbert
03-27-2005, 09:00 AM
When the heck did Sony get Beuna Vista?!?!They didn't get them as solarflere said. They just got their support for PSP UMD releases. Nothing to brag about as most BVHV releases are targeted at a market younger than the PSP is (every exception to that rule I can think of was meantioned in solarflere's post).
I don't know how anyone would think it's a good idea to buy a movie you can only play on the PSP. Even if I had one I wouldn't waste my money on movies for it.
Invader_Spooch
03-27-2005, 12:02 PM
I don't know how anyone would think it's a good idea to buy a movie you can only play on the PSP. Even if I had one I wouldn't waste my money on movies for it.
Wait, do you condone the Game Boy Advance Video carts? If so, then I don't see how, seeing as they're the exact same thing.
You have them to watch on the road (for those who travel a lot or are not home often because of school/work). Clearly these aren't meant to replace home theater copies, but to claim that nobody will want these just because YOU find no need for them is stupid.
I personally, will get some use out of them due to the fact that I spend a lot of time on campus killing time between classes (when I don't have work to do), and being able to watch a flick or a TV show or something on my PSP would be great/very convenient.
The GBA carts were mostly used for 4Kids and Nicktoons shows. While the PSP seems to have a more universal appeal (not to mention DVD vs. VHS quality) it probably won't be outside a niche.
Granted, full movie's seem to have a more universal appeal than say, cards and kiddie toons.
Dogbert
03-27-2005, 03:27 PM
Entering defense mode...
Wait, do you condone the Game Boy Advance Video carts? If so, then I don't see how, seeing as they're the exact same thing.I have never said anything positive about GBA Video. They are targeted at parents who don't realize they would get more for their money with a game (for travel) or a DVD (for at home).
...to claim that nobody will want these just because YOU find no need for them is stupid.I said, "I don't know how anyone would think it's a good idea to buy [these]..." That does not in anyway imply that I "claim that nobody will want" them. All I said was that I do not understand the logic behind paying $20 for a movie that only plays on one player. Had I said something like, "there is no reason to buy one," then I would see how my statement would have been "stupid."
You have them to watch on the road (for those who travel a lot or are not home often because of school/work). Clearly these aren't meant to replace home theater copies...
I personally, will get some use out of them due to the fact that I spend a lot of time on campus killing time between classes (when I don't have work to do), and being able to watch a flick or a TV show or something on my PSP would be great/very convenient.If someone is on the road often, they, by my way of thinking, that person should buy a portable DVD player for the cost of about 10-15 UMDs. If they are on the road often enough to buy UMD movies, then they would save money in the long run (unless the plan is to watch 15 movies over and over).
As for your personal example, if you want to spend the money for UMDs and DVDs, then I have no problem with that. However, my advice would be to invest in a portable DVD player so that you have more of a selection. If not, then you can buy a bigger memory card and compress some of your DVDs to carry with you on the memory card.
I have a commute time of almost two hours to my school. I am often stuck on campus between classes and could use a movie to watch. Both colleges I have attended have computer labs with DVD-ROM drives, so I have found no need for anything other than a set of headphones.
Frank Castle
03-27-2005, 03:31 PM
I'll be getting a PSP within the next 2 months and I'll definately be watching The Punisher on UMD. God bless you Lion's Gate.
ShawnHopkins
03-27-2005, 07:45 PM
I want to watch video on my PSP, but not by buying UMDs. I'm hoping there will be some good programs to rip video to it, then I'll go buy a big ole memory stick and put my TV shows on there.
Wouldn't it be awesome if they could somehow partner with TIVO to make a convenient legal version? I'm sure the copyright battle would be a nightmare, but I can dream.
solarflere
03-28-2005, 01:11 PM
The one I am realy waiting for is Kill Bill Vol. 1
Morac
03-28-2005, 02:21 PM
I think very few people will be buying UMD disks. How many people do you know who have a collection of music in ATRAC3 (http://www.sony.net/Products/ATRAC3/tech/atrac3/) format? Very few since it was a Sony proprietary format and unlike UMD it was free to convert mp3 to ATRAC3.
I can't see buying a movie on both DVD and UMD and since there are more DVD players than UMD players, DVD wins. Most people will get the DVD, buy a 1 GB or 2 GB memory stick and rip and transfer the movie over.
solarflere
03-28-2005, 02:23 PM
I think very few people will be buying UMD disks. How many people do you know who have a collection of music in ATRAC3 (http://www.sony.net/Products/ATRAC3/tech/atrac3/) format? Very few since it was a Sony proprietary format and unlike UMD it was free to convert mp3 to ATRAC3.
I can't see buying a movie on both DVD and UMD and since there are more DVD players than UMD players, DVD wins. Most people will get the DVD, buy a 1 GB or 2 GB memory stick and rip and transfer the movie over. As far as I heard PSP exepts up to 1GB memory card pro duo only.
Morac
03-28-2005, 03:41 PM
As far as I heard PSP exepts up to 1GB memory card pro duo only.Well 1 GB is enough room for a feature length movie since the movies are stored in the mp4 format so my point still stands.
solarflere
03-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Well 1 GB is enough room for a feature length movie since the movies are stored in the mp4 format so my point still stands. True but Mp4 is veary heavy format. 1GB is not enough to fit 8.5GB of movie on a 1GB mp4 Flash card.
Funkatron
03-28-2005, 04:29 PM
True but Mp4 is veary heavy format. 1GB is not enough to fit 8.5GB of movie on a 1GB mp4 Flash card.
Correction: They are only that big for DVD's and mp2. With mp4, you can get them smaller, especially since the screen is small, you can reduce the resolution and compress it a bit more.
Some guy on Gamefaqs compressed a full length movie down to 43mb using Windows Movie Maker. I tried it with a smaller file and got similar results. 320x240 doesn't require much data, and you can make it smaller by reducing sound quality and recording the video at 15 fps instead of the normal 28-30fps. Though I really wouldn't really do that, as it makes most videos look terrible.
Dogbert
03-28-2005, 05:14 PM
True but Mp4 is veary heavy format. 1GB is not enough to fit 8.5GB of movie on a 1GB mp4 Flash card.You can get about 16 hours of video on an 8.5GB DVD before it starts becoming unwatchable. The resolution & bitrate loss would be less noticable on the PSP. Doing some simple math leaves you with about 2hrs for 1GB. However, since you don't have to keep the files in a dvd compatible MPEG-2 format, you could fit more than that on 1GB. Besides, who says you couldn't buy more than one memory card and split the video?
PSPiscool
03-28-2005, 05:57 PM
there are memory card with 1.0G. but i whached Spiderman 2 and it looks great and the sound is great
The price of big memory sticks still needs to drop, but in 1GHZ, people can store something around two movies according to an estimate.
solarflere
03-28-2005, 10:40 PM
The price of big memory sticks still needs to drop, but in 1GHZ, people can store something around two movies according to an estimate. Sandisk brand are cheaper than Sony brand and Sandisk includes a memory stick adapter for the Duo card so it can fit to any memory stick slot.
Only two brands make it, as far as I know.
Artimus Gigan
03-28-2005, 11:06 PM
Scandisk actualy co-owns the patent so their cards are half the price of Sony's and are a workable alternative...
solarflere
03-29-2005, 08:22 PM
Received my PSP today, from KBToys online preorder, Spiderman 2 UMD movie can not be better. You have to download a spetial program and folow instructions how to put videos on your PSP Memory Stick Pro Duo.
It needs a spetial codec and needs a spetial program for conversion. Its free.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-11721-1725-x-x-x
As far as I'm concerned in the long run...
$20 for proprietary movie format- bad idea
Ability to convert and play movies on that screen- Good idea.
Either way, it beats those GBA cartridges.
Noukon
03-30-2005, 01:28 AM
So who ever said that PSP will not hold its own weight with movies, you can start eating your words.
I never said it before, but I'll say it now. $20 apiece for movies at less than 1/4 the resolution of DVD that cannot be played back in anything other than their portable media device with a tiny screen? No, thanks.
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