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The Landstander
03-26-2005, 10:17 PM
For discussion of Fullmetal Alchemist.
Timmay
03-26-2005, 10:26 PM
Just 1 more hour.
NickWhiz1
03-26-2005, 11:19 PM
I highly recommend that no one goes to the FMA talkback on the Adult Swim Action board at GameFAQs, as some jackass has gone and spammed THE major spoiler for Episode 25 in that topic.
bluedeucedodge
03-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Man, I can't wait to see how that fight ends. That is gonna be one helluva fight.
Julayla_Beryl
03-26-2005, 11:41 PM
Lol, the prisoner with the axe and Armstrong are pretty funny so far. Let's hope Ed gets out of this one though.
Demonic Raven
03-26-2005, 11:42 PM
Oh Barry, you so kwazy! :p
KuwabaraTheMan
03-26-2005, 11:42 PM
66 being Barry was pretty obvious, but this episode is still interesting. Hopefully the second half has more plot development to it than the first.
NickWhiz1
03-26-2005, 11:42 PM
Image Request *pokes Riza*: Armstrong with his evil-looking sparkly face :anime:
Demonic Raven
03-26-2005, 11:57 PM
We didn't get much farther since last weeks preview. We still don't know about what's up with Al's memories and stuff. Damnit, get here already next week!
Anyway, along with that revelation and the fighting, this was a great episode. 9/10
Sandoz
03-27-2005, 12:03 AM
Who voices Barry the Chopper, again? That guy's great.
Interesting to see Ed and Al fight others who not only had their souls bonded to armor, but who were brothers as well. I feel bad for Al; what Barry said to him cannot be easy to contemplate.
One Radical Dude
03-27-2005, 12:03 AM
This was a fairly solid episode. The second half was big, in my book. I enjoyed the Ed vs. 48 brothers (one body...two brothers battle a lot. Another high moment is Al (thinking about what Ed was trying to tell him several episodes ago)....I've gotta know what he was going to say.
Rating: B+
KuwabaraTheMan
03-27-2005, 12:04 AM
So, this whole deal with Al's memories is interesting. And those brothers know something that they aren't saying. Not a whole lot was revealed tonight, but some good stuff happened, and next week looks to be cool.
David Lucas
03-27-2005, 12:10 AM
A great episode, these days I'm just watching to see how the dub turns out. With new voices, and a couple of the lines changed, it kinda feels like you're watching a new episode (as long as the dub is good, thank you, Bebop).
This marks the start of the "Is Al real?" mini-arc, which I thought was one of the deepest things this show ever touched on. That last scene of Al just standing there, terrified that he's not even real always gets me. I just feel so bad for the kid, ya know? His english VA sounds so close to the japanese seiyuu it's not even funny, the only difference is the screaming.
I gotta hand it to the japanese, they put all their effort into their screams.
Ed's VA is an ass ton different though, and really, I watch it for that. I love Ed's dub voice, not to mention the actor's ability.
Overall, another winner for Full Metal, there really aren't any that AREN'T. However, hearing 66 announce his name in Japanese is so much cooler than what they did here tonight.
"Ba-ree da chop-paaaa" just makes me wanna say it 400 times. The adding of the "Barry the Butcher" name right before the chopper one kinda lessened the impact. Along with the "fake love" line, the japanese actor delivered a much more sinister sounding delivery of that line, which is kinda why his eyes start doing that creepy glow thing again.
As for the Slicer, and his brother, they were both pretty damn perfect. All the lines, the 2 voices, the delivery of the whole fight, just really really top notch.
It's always nice to get an episode away from the homunculi and focus on our two heroes.
And to those of you who read the warning about not going to the Gamefaq's board, I don't know how many of you actually DO read that forum, but if anyone
Anyone.
Tries to tell you anything about anything that's going to happen in an episode further ahead than where you're at in Full Metal, ESPECIALLY that particular episode, you have the legal right to shoot them several times in the face and inject them with a cancerous tumor.
Full Metal should NOT be spoiled for anyone. My friend got hooked on it cause of me, I asked him to download the last episode so I could finally watch it. He was on episode 32, and felt like watching 51. I yelled at him for almost 30 minutes last night about how he just ruined the greatest thing ever made.
Let's get started, Ready, Steady, Go!
Quincy Archer
03-27-2005, 12:12 AM
Who voices Barry the Chopper, again? That guy's great..
Jerry Jewell
Captain Zechs
03-27-2005, 12:28 AM
I highly recommend that no one goes to the FMA talkback on the Adult Swim Action board at GameFAQs, as some jackass has gone and spammed THE major spoiler for Episode 25 in that topic.
The loser, that pretty much ruins the episode!!!!!!!!
livingfruitvirus
03-27-2005, 12:31 AM
I highly recommend that no one goes to the FMA talkback on the Adult Swim Action board at GameFAQs, as some jackass has gone and spammed THE major spoiler for Episode 25 in that topic.That would require me to visit that cesspool of a forum.
Why is it every time I read about something on GameFAQs, its always a context that has nothing to do with games or FAQs?
NickWhiz1
03-27-2005, 12:34 AM
Why is it every time I read about something on GameFAQs, its always a context that has nothing to do with games or FAQs?
Because the rules are relatively lax and a good number of the trouble areas don't have sufficient moderation coverage?
Add to that the usual idiots, jackasses, and 10-year olds, and you've got GameFAQs in a nutshell.
Artimus Gigan
03-27-2005, 12:39 AM
That would require me to visit that cesspool of a forum.
Why is it every time I read about something on GameFAQs, its always a context that has nothing to do with games or FAQs?Because GameFAQS is like MTV
It discarded it's inital purpose from the get go and then just filled the empty space with crap
Wounded_Dragon
03-27-2005, 12:40 AM
Aw, c'mon, they produce some wonderful material to laugh at. I'd quote some of their stuff but that'd just be mean and all GameFAQs-like. ;)
I laughed at the short speech on the difference between kill and destroy.
True Noir
03-27-2005, 12:43 AM
Another great mixture of comedy and drama. Great episode. 5*'s
PearlRose86
03-27-2005, 01:12 AM
Overall, a decent episode. A little bit on the slow side as far as furthering the plot goes, but Barry the Chopper made up for that. Such an amusing mass murderer pyscho. ^^;
Lots of questions brought up for Al to ponder. Poor guy, I really felt bad for him at the end of the episode there. Personally, I think Barry was trying to get in a cheap shot and screw up Al's focus, as he was kind of seriously outmatched.
In any case, it worked. My favorite soul in a suit of armor looks to be exremely confused about himself. Talk about your identity crisis!
Not much else to chat about, although Armstrong sinister/sparkly was the nice touch of humor that was otherwise lacking in this episode. Drama's nice once in a while. ^^;;
-Maggie
Master Moron
03-27-2005, 01:13 AM
That would require me to visit that cesspool of a forum.
Why is it every time I read about something on GameFAQs, its always a context that has nothing to do with games or FAQs?
Because when ever you try to talk about games on the forums some jackass always tells you "go read the faqs and stop making posts that ask questions about the game!"
Saito
03-27-2005, 01:17 AM
A great episode, these days I'm just watching to see how the dub turns out. With new voices, and a couple of the lines changed, it kinda feels like you're watching a new episode (as long as the dub is good, thank you, Bebop).
This marks the start of the "Is Al real?" mini-arc, which I thought was one of the deepest things this show ever touched on. That last scene of Al just standing there, terrified that he's not even real always gets me. I just feel so bad for the kid, ya know? His english VA sounds so close to the japanese seiyuu it's not even funny, the only difference is the screaming.
I gotta hand it to the japanese, they put all their effort into their screams.
Ed's VA is an ass ton different though, and really, I watch it for that. I love Ed's dub voice, not to mention the actor's ability.
Overall, another winner for Full Metal, there really aren't any that AREN'T. However, hearing 66 announce his name in Japanese is so much cooler than what they did here tonight.
"Ba-ree da chop-paaaa" just makes me wanna say it 400 times. The adding of the "Barry the Butcher" name right before the chopper one kinda lessened the impact. Along with the "fake love" line, the japanese actor delivered a much more sinister sounding delivery of that line, which is kinda why his eyes start doing that creepy glow thing again.
As for the Slicer, and his brother, they were both pretty damn perfect. All the lines, the 2 voices, the delivery of the whole fight, just really really top notch.
It's always nice to get an episode away from the homunculi and focus on our two heroes.
And to those of you who read the warning about not going to the Gamefaq's board, I don't know how many of you actually DO read that forum, but if anyone
Anyone.
Tries to tell you anything about anything that's going to happen in an episode further ahead than where you're at in Full Metal, ESPECIALLY that particular episode, you have the legal right to shoot them several times in the face and inject them with a cancerous tumor.
Full Metal should NOT be spoiled for anyone. My friend got hooked on it cause of me, I asked him to download the last episode so I could finally watch it. He was on episode 32, and felt like watching 51. I yelled at him for almost 30 minutes last night about how he just ruined the greatest thing ever made.
Let's get started, Ready, Steady, Go!hey i got a Question where did your Friend Download it?i know Some Downloading Sites of the Episodes but i couldn't Play it.
Artimus Gigan
03-27-2005, 01:20 AM
hey i got a Question where did your Friend Download it?i know Some Downloading Sites of the Episodes but i couldn't Play it.Downloading and discussion of downloading sites are strictly forbidden on Toonzone
Riza Hawkeye
03-27-2005, 01:32 AM
Image Request *pokes Riza*: Armstrong with his evil-looking sparkly face :anime: Oww...*pokes Nick back* Here's the image, plus his 'evil' expression before it:
Evil Face (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap158.jpg)
Evil Sparkles (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap159.jpg)
That's all for now because I just got back from work and have yet to watch the episode dubbed.
Saito
03-27-2005, 02:05 AM
Downloading and discussion of downloading sites are strictly forbidden on ToonzoneSorry i'm still a noob here and thank you for warning
Vu Man
03-27-2005, 02:24 AM
I'm a regular at Gamefaqs and the slow decline of authority on that community has caused me to go here. I go there every once in a while but I don't post nearly often on the anime boards there than over here. See here, the Mods actually enforce the rules.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000120&topic=20044457
I'd like to thank the mods at Toonzone for doing their job. People actually discuss things in talkback topics as opposed to randomly typing in what happens while an episode airs. It's refreshing to see people watch the episode first and then talk about it (I believe that's in the TOS as well)
Perfect Cell
03-27-2005, 02:48 AM
I liked it. Development of the Brothers relationship and a cool fight plus the funny Barry the chopper... i havent been disapointed by an episode yet
Scythemantis
03-27-2005, 03:05 AM
This was my favorite episode yet. The conversations and exchanges were just incredibly interesting. That's something I've found throughout the series, which is often absent or unnoticeable in other anime.
Funny how you just gotta hate Barry when he was a human, but as a crazy skull-headed suit he's comical and endearing.
And gamefaqs is THE worst message board, ever. Always has been. The idiocy is overwhelming. I always prefer real forums, where posts are considered to have some sort of value, instead of being used to "chat".
Demon Child
03-27-2005, 03:05 AM
Awesome episode filled with action. I wonder what Ed was planning on telling Al?
My favorite part is when Ed poked the bottom half of the armour wanting to know if there was a third brother,
Happy
03-27-2005, 03:52 AM
I was very surprised by the fake Al (that Ed made in the barrel) and the two Slashers. But Ed should have just used alchemy to entomb the Slashers in the concrete floor. Which brings me to my next complaint, the alchemy battles in this show usually last less then a minute; when we finally get a long battle it involves next to no alchemy. And it appears that Scar is heading to the lab, which is too bad since he really needs a break. (and the 5th lab will most likely be destroyed now, that is one cliche that I still hope the series will avoid)
PickHut
03-27-2005, 04:06 AM
That was a pretty interesting fight between Ed and the two brothers. It had its moments, but I was annoyed that the fight took up basically most of the episode, I was disapponited that they didn't show much of Al and the butcher's fight that much.
Nice episode, I give Soul of the Guardian a B.
Kasumi
03-27-2005, 03:14 PM
Funny how you just gotta hate Barry when he was a human, but as a crazy skull-headed suit he's comical and endearing.
Exactly. I was laughing at him the entire time.
Great episode. I felt for Al at the end of the episode. The fights were great but I wish they focused more on the Al/Barry fight. Then ago it was more comical than serious. And I knew that the armor part was another human transmutation. That or it could move on it's on. Still creeped me out. And great to see scary Armstrong with sparkles. I want to sparkle like him.
This episode gets a 4 out of 5.
Oh and don't know if this is a spoiler or not but I'll ask anyway.
If Al does get his body back, will it be his 10 year old body?
Chosen Raven
03-27-2005, 06:51 PM
We finally got a long fight, and it was a good one. Now all we need is a long alchemy fight. Alchemy fights are spiffy, and, perhaps, keen.
Since Scar will be coming to the lab soon, I hope he'll take out the three serial killers.
Mighty_Bojingo
03-27-2005, 07:16 PM
The slicer brothers have already been taken out. Barry is the only one left.
And shame on Al for actually listening to Barry's taunting concerning his relation to his Ed. That's the problem with all the good guys in television today. When a bad guy makes things up, the good guy just doesnt hesitate to believe them, no matter how truthfull or false it may seem.
I'd also like to see Scar go up against the Flame Alchemist. One on One, no Rain, a fair solid fight.
MiltonBradley
03-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Disappointing episode. We didn't really learn anything regarding Al's [alleged] existence, there was almost no plot advancement at all (other than some unimportant fight scenes between AL and 66, which dragged on WAY too long), and none of the more interesting characters had any roles.
Leaving Mustang and his posse idle for so long is unforgivable.
Chosen Raven
03-27-2005, 07:28 PM
The slicer brothers have already been taken out. Barry is the only one left.
I mean taken out in a more permanent way. I can't abide serial killers.
bluedeucedodge
03-27-2005, 08:24 PM
I have to say, that was one awesome episode. The fight between Ed and the Slicer Brothers was so great. And Ed being as keen as he is, you just knew that he was gonna pull something out of his sleeve like making a mock up of Al to distract the Slicer Brothers and take advantage of them. I have been waiting for a good fighting oriented episode, and I finally got one. I enjoy the plot advancing episodes also, but this is the first episode that had fighting through the WHOLE show. I give it a 10/10.
David Lucas
03-27-2005, 11:15 PM
*Warning, kinda vague reply given, but still a spoiler, do not read*
Oh and don't know if this is a spoiler or not but I'll ask anyway.
If Al does get his body back, will it be his 10 year old body?
You'll find out in the last 10 minutes of Episode 51.
Timmay
03-27-2005, 11:26 PM
No worries guys, you'll be on the edge of your seat all the way up to episode 26
Ultra8
03-27-2005, 11:55 PM
Ed's fight with 48/the Slicer Bros. was certainly intense, while Al's fight with 66/Barry the Chopper was completely hilarious.:anime: :D
Just win Al was winning Barry plays a mindgame card and has poor Al doubting his own existence(and it doesn't help that his unfinished chat with Ed is still fresh in his mind).
Best episode so far.
10/10 :D :D
You have to give the State it's due, what better way to guard an off-limits/ abandoned secret lab then with 3 ex-living killer armors, and judging by next week's preview there's even more to worry about down there.
Vallen Valiant
03-28-2005, 01:41 AM
I mean taken out in a more permanent way. I can't abide serial killers.
Actually... We all know Barry was a serial killer, but somehow the Slicer brothers don't seem to fit the description of homicidal maniacs...
They fought calmly, and unlike Barry, fight because of a twisted sense of duty rather than blood lust. I always wondered if the Slicer brothers were in fact military special-forces men who were ordered to commit crimes by their superior officers, and then used as scapgoats/fall guys. (this is only speculation, ofcourse.)
Watch the next episode. I wonder if you will change your mind about them then...
adoptedBatpuppy
03-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Good fighting sequences, I'm glad Ed got out okay. That monster he fought was somewhat scary. Did anybody noticed Russian music playing in the background, when Al was self-doubting about his relationship with Ed?
Now, all I need is to learn Japanese and I will be all set. :anime:
By the way can somebody update me on what happenned in the last episode, I missed it twice, and didn't have time to catch up? Are they still searching for the Philosopher's Stone? and How did they lost the military which was supposed to be protecting them? Thank you :)
Actually... We all know Barry was a serial killer, but somehow the Slicer brothers don't seem to fit the description of homicidal maniacs...
They fought calmly, and unlike Barry, fight because of a twisted sense of duty rather than blood lust. I always wondered if the Slicer brothers were in fact military special-forces men who were ordered to commit crimes by their superior officers, and then used as scapgoats/fall guys. (this is only speculation, ofcourse.) I don't know. The older Slicer said that they had killed and stolen and done bad stuff as far back as they could remember. He also referred to himself as a "killer who scared the public" when they had still been flesh and blood. You have a good point about them being calmer than Barry, but being calm or not does not determine whether you're a serial killer or not.
SS4goku
03-29-2005, 12:04 AM
This episode was pretty funny with action in it. I liked the slicers brothers, they were funny. Plus when Al faced off with Barry, that was funny how Al just dodged all of his moves except one when Al tripped over the rock that stuck out of the ground. But the funniest thing is when Barry told Al about his weaknes, that was funny when Al throwed it right back at him.
I'd like to thank the mods at Toonzone for doing their job. People actually discuss things in talkback topics as opposed to randomly typing in what happens while an episode airs. It's refreshing to see people watch the episode first and then talk about it (I believe that's in the TOS as well)Then I take it you've never been to any of the Duel Masters talkbacks?
Anyhow, which episode number is this again? 23?
Lachesis
03-29-2005, 09:36 AM
Then I take it you've never been to any of the Duel Masters talkbacks?
Anyhow, which episode number is this again? 23?
We're on 20.
And it's making me slightly depressed that several people here seem to like this episode simply on the merit of it being mostly comprised of action scenes.
LordTerminal
03-29-2005, 02:48 PM
We're on 20. God do I love how the story flows in this show. We're at Episode 20 yet to me it feels like we've been through more episodes than that. We could use more shows like that too.
A question to those who have seen the whole series: are the symbols behind the various alchemic reactions just for show? I seem to remember Al drawing a specific transmutation symbol in episode 1 to repair the radio and his blood seal looks different from those of the soul armors in this episode; And Mustang's and Armstrong's gloves were different still as I recall, yet Ed can seem to do any alchemy he wants with just the symbol in his automail. Did he come up with a totally universal sigil or is it just a plot hole that he doesn't have to have the right ones for the function he wants to perform?
Timmay
03-29-2005, 04:30 PM
A question to those who have seen the whole series: are the symbols behind the various alchemic reactions just for show? I seem to remember Al drawing a specific transmutation symbol in episode 1 to repair the radio and his blood seal looks different from those of the soul armors in this episode; And Mustang's and Armstrong's gloves were different still as I recall, yet Ed can seem to do any alchemy he wants with just the symbol in his automail. Did he come up with a totally universal sigil or is it just a plot hole that he doesn't have to have the right ones for the function he wants to perform?
It's different with Ed, it's explained more when Ed and Al's teacher appears. The easy explanation is that he creates a circle with his body(or something along the sorts I don't remember exactly maybe someone can help me out?) when he claps allowing Ed to do alchemy without a circle. There is no symbol in his automail.
Other than that you're right, and you need to wait a couple of episodes for the large complicated alchemy.
Wolfie~Giri
03-29-2005, 04:39 PM
Poor Al...now go get Barry.. B+
Riza Hawkeye
03-29-2005, 06:13 PM
Well, I finally got around to watching the episode dubbed. It was good except for the ask/tell thing again. Even though I shouldn't, I felt like laughing every time I heard 'Jimmy Kudo's' voice coming out of 66.
About the transmuation circles, yes each have a different meaning, but they never really go into how each circle can allow the alchemist to do what they do.
These transumation circles are for each state alchemist to preform their 'trademark' techniques.
Armstrong's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap160.jpg) (on his gauntlets)
Mustang's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap162.jpg) (on his gloves)
Kimblee's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap163.jpg) (on his hands)
Basque Gran's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap164.jpg) (on his gauntlets)
Ed's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap161.jpg)(his hands *not actually drawn)
Look at this complex transmuation circle (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap165.jpg), for human transmuation.
Ed creates his by clapping his hands together, into doing so, he creates a circle. I can't really go into specifics because it will be explained later.
lostrune
03-29-2005, 11:30 PM
1. As I said last ep, Ed should really use more alchemy in his fights, like how Scar uses his alchemy knowledge as an advantage. :shrug:
2. Heheh, Barry Chopper made a joke: "they always said I'm empty inside" (the armor and the brain, that is). :D
3. Maj. Armstrong flexed his scary muscles! :ack:
"This here is a torture technique that's been handed down the Armstrong line for generations!"
4. Heh, speak of the... Ed did finally use his alchemy advantage. :)
5. Ha! They actually differentiated kill vs. destroy. That almost sounded like fanboys arguing about edits. Ed's blood was kept too. :sweat:
6. Hmmm... armor-soulbinded Al can't just be the manifestation of Ed's memory of his brother, can he? Al definitely existed because Winry and Grandma remember him. :o
Sampo
03-30-2005, 01:13 PM
...
6. Hmmm... armor-soulbinded Al can't just be the manifestation of Ed's memory of his brother, can he? Al definitely existed because Winry and Grandma remember him. :o
Eh? Al did exist till the time they tried to resurrect their mother. Then Al could have died during the transmutation. Thus, Ed out of desperation and not wanting to face the world completely alone, creates Al with the use of his own memories. That's my take on that, dunno if it's correct though *shurg*.
Paul_Cousins
03-30-2005, 02:25 PM
This was a great episode, 10 out of 10 Stars, but I find is hard to believe that everyone else missed it when Ed said to the elder Slicer Brother that he (Ed) had never yet beaten Al in any of their practice duels where they fight each other in combat (over the last three years or so).
So I guess Al is a better fighter than Ed; he kept Barry the Chopper on his toes.
I loved Al's quote, "Why do I always get the crazy ones..." :cool:
David Lucas
03-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Yet Ed can seem to do any alchemy he wants with just the symbol in his automail. Did he come up with a totally universal sigil or is it just a plot hole that he doesn't have to have the right ones for the function he wants to perform?
He saw "the truth"....
Funkatron
03-30-2005, 11:23 PM
Just to let y'all know, I got my Vol 2 today. Ahh, the wonders of early shipping and 2 day delivery ;):p
Looks like there is a book for each volume afterall( didn't think it'g be in everyone)
Spotlight includes
Roy Mustang and Maes Hughes
Also includes some pics of the characters introduced in the volume. Even comes with a little tribute to..you know...
True Noir
03-31-2005, 03:40 PM
Eh? Al did exist till the time they tried to resurrect their mother. Then Al could have died during the transmutation. Thus, Ed out of desperation and not wanting to face the world completely alone, creates Al with the use of his own memories. That's my take on that, dunno if it's correct though *shurg*.
Eh! Don't say that. I want Alphonse to be alive so that makes me wanna cry...not really but makes me sad. I just hope there is a way in the end that can get him back to his original form because I really want to see how he looks like.
Riza Hawkeye
03-31-2005, 03:54 PM
Eh! Don't say that. I want Alphonse to be alive so that makes me wanna cry...not really but makes me sad. I just hope there is a way in the end that can get him back to his original form because I really want to see how he looks like. You have seen what looks like though...;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap169.jpg
True Noir
03-31-2005, 03:56 PM
You have seen what looks like though...;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap169.jpg
I know that. I mean older though. Is he like three feet taller and stronger than Ed or is he just the same? (no spoiler if any)
Riza Hawkeye
03-31-2005, 04:06 PM
I know that. I mean older though. Is he like three feet taller and stronger than Ed or is he just the same? (no spoiler if any) I know what you meant, but you didn't say that :p And no comment one way or another on your questions.
Funkatron
03-31-2005, 06:54 PM
I know what you meant, but you didn't say that :p And no comment one way or another on your questions.
I wonder about Al's situation myself: if he does get his body back, what will it be?? The age he lost it? His current age? Heck, Ed's arm and leg are in a similar bind. Think how messed it'd be if he gets back little kid limbs :p:eek:
Riza Hawkeye
03-31-2005, 07:39 PM
I wonder about Al's situation myself: if he does get his body back, what will it be?? The age he lost it? His current age? Heck, Ed's arm and leg are in a similar bind. Think how messed it'd be if he gets back little kid limbs :p:eek: Well you've got 31 episodes before the end of the series and if they accomplish their goals you'll get the answers to those questions and if they don't those questions will remain up in the air.
Then there's also the movie this July, which is a direct continuation of the series. So I do strongly suggest avoiding any and all information about it until you've seen the whole series.
Timmay
04-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Argh, they didn't do the scene where al takes his head off right.. When Al takes his head off Barry is supposed to be surprised, his dialogue doesn't match up with the actions in the dub.
David Lucas
04-01-2005, 01:14 AM
Argh, they didn't do the scene where al takes his head off right.. When Al takes his head off Barry is supposed to be surprised, his dialogue doesn't match up with the actions in the dub.
I noticed that just now. For those out of the loop, while Barry is telling Al, "You're supposed to be like 'Ahh! He has no head!'" and "Ahh! Where's his body?"
Al takes his head off and Barry keeps going on with what he's saying.
When Al takes his head off, Barry's supposed to yell out one of those things he's telling Al to say regarding him. "Ahh! You're empty inside."
The way they translated it doesn't make sense because right before that statement, Barry was under the impression that Al was a human under the armor. Yet, after that scene, Barry asks him if he was a prisoner in the 5th Lab as well. So it just kinda doesn't match up, that's the first major glitch I've seen in the dub so far. It's kind of easy to overlook, but still, they shoulda done their research.
Another one I'm not sure about is the dialogue between the slicer brothers when we first find out about them being brothers. In the dub, they went back and forth finishing each other's sentence, I can't really tell in the sub. That really has no affect on the episode though, the Barry the Chopper mistranslation does.
Can't wait for the next episode, only a few more to go to one of the most beautiful things America will ever witness on television.
By the way, Volume 2: The Scarred Man Of The East comes out on Tuesday, I don't think I need to tell you guys to go buy it.
Timmay
04-01-2005, 02:00 AM
Another thing that I noticed is that when Ed kicks 66 in the dub he says "These reflexes" in the original it's "This feeling" Odd minor mistranslations?
Paul_Cousins
04-01-2005, 03:41 AM
Then there's also the movie this July, which is a direct continuation of the series. So I do strongly suggest avoiding any and all information about it until you've seen the whole series.Cool... :cool:
Thank you for the information. :D
Riza Hawkeye
04-01-2005, 04:12 AM
Cool... :cool:
Thank you for the information. :D You're welcome, just make sure to do like I said and avoid anything that has to do with the movie until finishing the series. I planned on making new topic for the movie, but realized my whole post would end up being one huge spoiler and I know that's too tempting for some people. I know enough about this movie to make me very eager to see it. I can't even give a summary because the events in the movie are primarily based off the last couple of episodes in the series. Hell, just givng out the episode titles for the final episodes of the series spoils too much IMO.
David Lucas
04-01-2005, 09:35 AM
Another thing that I noticed is that when Ed kicks 66 in the dub he says "These reflexes" in the original it's "This feeling" Odd minor mistranslations?
I noticed that one the first time I watched it, I was gonna get upset until they changed one of the following lines as well. I think Ed said something along the lines of "I know someone like you, and he moves the same."
I guess it could work either way, it just woulda been easier to say "This feeling..." since I believe you hear a hollow "thud". Either way, it wasn't something that stuck with me.
I'm still trying to figure out how they're gonna have Ed ask Al his question....
....how could they reword what he asks him into a statement? ("Something I've been meaning to tell 'ya....")
It's really upsetting me.
And for those of you who get curious from Riza's post, seriously, don't look up the Episode Titles for any episode past the one you're on. If you really wanna know at least one future episode how about the last one?
It's titled ??? Seeing as how it doesn't have a title.
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