Talkback: "Star Wars: Clone Wars" (Chapters 21-25)

[CookieS]

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Welcome to the official Toon Zone discussion thread for Star Wars: Clone Wars. The new and exciting series from Cartoon Network and Lucas Film Ltd. five new 12 minute chapters are set to air March 21-25 at 7 PM (eastern/pacific).

Star Wars: Clone Wars continues the saga where the live action feature film Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones left off - at the beginning of the Clone Wars, an epic civil war that pites the old Republic against a vast separtist movement led by the forces of evil. Before the new film opening on May 19, this hour of new animated materiall essentially brings the scrolling preamble to Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith to life for the fans.


Schedule of Episodes (all air at 7 PM, eastern/pacific):
Chapter 21 - Monday, March 21
Chapter 22 - Tuesday, March 22
Chapter 23 - Wednesday, March 23
Chapter 24 - Thursday, March 24
Chapter 25 - Friday, March 25

Playing Catch-Up
New to the saga? Catch up on Chapters 1-20 on Toon Zone's Star Wars: Clone Wars page (http://www.toonzone.net/shows/clonewars.php). If you missed an episode this week, you can watch it a day after the premiere, online at CartoonNetwork.com (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/promos/200503_starwars/index.html).

You can also pre-order the Star Wars: Clone Wars Vol. One on DVD in the Toon Zone Store (http://store.toonzone.net/).

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[RayChuang]

Cartoon Network will show all five episodes back-to-back at 2000 hours ET/PT on March 26, 2005 for those who miss the nightly 12 minute episodes at 1900 hours ET/PT on March 21-25, 2005. http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/agree/3.gif

[lostrune]

Schedule of Episodes (all air at 7 PM, eastern/pacific):
Chapter 21 - Monday, March 20
Chapter 22 - Tuesday, March 21
Chapter 23 - Wednesday, March 22
Chapter 24 - Thursday, March 23
Chapter 25 - Friday, March 24

Monday is March 21. Tuesday March 22, and so on.

I was wondering why this was freakin' 2 days early. :D

[ShadowS]

I love the first 20 chapters. Instead of being disappointing like most people though it surpised everyone and ended up by being great and winning an Emmy!

I'm looking forward to 21.

[Supremus]

Just wacthed chapter 21 and 22. Very, very cool. Good to see all the Jedis from chapter 20 didn't die, but I guess their days are numbered anyway, but at least they will make it long enough to be killed on the big screen instead. :)

Chapter 21 was by far the best, while 22 was a little bit so-so in places, but these new episodes work so much better than the 3-4 minute format of the micro-series. They even have a have a little bit of humor.

[HellCat]

Just caught the 6pm showing of 21. There's a definite improvement this time round. As much as Lucasfilm keep hyping him, Grievous' cameo may have been the least interesting part for me. Something didn't seem right about seeing Ki-Adi-Mundi acting so frantic. I was glad they touched on how Qui-Gon effects the relationship of Anakin and Obi-Wan. There was something off about Padme. Her voice was too squeaky and when she clutches the case with Anakin's luck charm and braid she looked kinda evil. Threepio's 'striptease' was a nice comedy moment. The knighting of Anakin was interesting as we haven't really learned how the Jedi handle the transition from Padawn to Knight.

EDIT- Apparently Toonami UK aired both 21 and 22 today. Nice of them to let people know this would be the case -_-

[Juu-kuchi]

Unbefrickin'lievable. Everything works.

[The Dark Gundam]

A whole better than volumes I and II for sure. Boy, C3PO was sure showing off his new paint job. Can't wait for tomorrow night.

[Scirel]

Awesome.


This really, really, REALLY benefitted from the longer format.

Supremus how did you see 22?

[Mek]

OH MAN

OH MAN

OH MAN

THAT ROCKED THE HARDCORE. :D

General Grievious: asdfghjkldOH YEAH. He rules.
(I can't believe he's voiced by the same guy who did Bender)

Can't wait. Can't wait... ilhdsjfskagYAY.

Oh, and if anyone can get me some screen caps of Grievious, I'll be indebted to you forever.

[Supremus]

Awesome.


This really, really, REALLY benefitted from the longer format.

Supremus how did you see 22?We get 2 new eps a day on Toonami UK. They premiered 21 and 22 earlier today.

[ktoriyama]

I hate you people in the UK, Now we in the US have to wait a whole 23 hours, 30 minutes to see new eps, I can't wait. Need Starwars.

BTW was that a new Billy and Mandy episode.

I need to see the final assault. OMG they killed the Jedi who I swear looked like Shaggy, thats not right.

Okay I am alright now, the drugs have kicked in.

[Swonker]

Wow! I never got a chance to see much of the first twenty chapters, but after watching this, I'm definitely gonna keep watching. And I'm buying the Volume I DVD first thing tomorrow.

[HellCat]

We get 2 new eps a day on Toonami UK. They premiered 21 and 22 earlier today.
Are the eps shown back to back?

[Ultra Mike]

Very nice chapter. I'm really digging these 11 minute chapters that can actually tell a good amount of story and action without having to cut it so short. Grevious didn't seem that impressive running away from the Clone Troopers but I suppose we'll be seeing more of him in action in the next set of chapters. And like the Council said, taking on 5 Jedis and basically owning them like that defintley takes a lot of skill, espically when you're dealing with real Jedi masters and all. I liked the more tender moments in the second half of the chapter too. That might of been just as much as we got in all the 20 chapters orignally.

Best Scenes: The Clone Troopers setting up the bombs, the councilman's desperate fight against Grevious, the Council meeting debating on Anakin, Anakin meeting with Padame on the street and CP30 showing off his Gold Chest (the music defintley felt very different for the scene. Almost Fosterish in a way) and Anakin offically being Knighted a Jedi of the council.

Grade: 4.25 Stars Out of 5 Stars

[Supremus]

Are the eps shown back to back?yep, separated by an ad break at...

8:00
16:00
18:00

The 8:00 airing tomorrow might be a repeat of today's eps. Don't sue me if it's not, though, that's just how they aired them last time and are apparently doing with other shows. Otherwise they will also be repeated over the weekend, and next week, and the week after until they make you won't to throw up. :)

[Obi]

Argh.


I missed it.



I thought it was on at 8.



Saturday can't get here soon enough. :(

[Supremus]

Argh.


I missed it.



I thought it was on at 8.



Saturday can't get here soon enough. :(I think you can watch the episode on www.cartoonnetwork.com (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com).

[Scirel]

Obi you can see it tomorrow on toonami.com

[Obi]

This is what I get for not reading the first post. And forgetting that they did the same exact thing last year with Clone Wars Volume 1. :p

Thanks.

[Ultra Mike]

Hey Obi, I have a question? If you're trying to be Spoiler free for Star Wars Movie 3, then shouldn't you not watch Clone Wars until you watch that or something? Because CW defintley has spoilers for SW Episode III in it (biggest so far is what General Grevious looked like).

[Mek]

I just remembered my dad has a Hyperspace membership and he gave me permission to use it when I want.

GLEE. They have ep. 21 up already. :D

I went all Sampo-like with General Grievious screens.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/eleganceliberty/Clone%20Wars/sw_gg1.png
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/eleganceliberty/Clone%20Wars/sw_gg5.png

If anyone has request for specific screens, lemme know.

[Obi]

Hey Obi, I have a question? If you're trying to be Spoiler free for Star Wars Movie 3, then shouldn't you not watch Clone Wars until you watch that or something? Because CW defintley has spoilers for SW Episode III in it (biggest so far is what General Grevious looked like).
Clone Wars itself is not Episode III. It may be the events leading up to it, but it isn't Episode III itself.


It's not like they're going "HEY GUYS THIS WILL HAPPEN IN EPISODE III AND ____ WILL DIE ON ____ WHILE FIGHTING ______ WITH A _____" or anything. The way I see it, characters like Grievous are in Clone Wars because George wants you to get acquainted with them before you see the movie. That's completely different from looking at/reading spoilers.

[Rook]

Query: at the end of episode 20, didnt grevious have 3 sabers? 2 in hand and one of foot? Now one can assume he just dropped it during part of the fight we never saw, but still. Is it just me or were those elite troopers kind of dumb to stand in place while a saber wielding jedi killer is moving around like theres no gravity?

[ktoriyama]

Clone Wars is the blurb or backstory of Star Wars Episode 3. You know that yellow text that fades into the background in the beginning of each StarWars, thats is what Clone Wars is suppose to be an animated version of.

[AgentSpectre]

I just remembered my dad has a Hyperspace membership and he gave me permission to use it when I want.

GLEE. They have ep. 21 up already. :D

I went all Sampo-like with General Grievious screens.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/eleganceliberty/Clone%20Wars/sw_gg1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/eleganceliberty/Clone%20Wars/sw_gg2.png
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/eleganceliberty/Clone%20Wars/sw_gg5.png

If anyone has request for specific screens, lemme know.

Wow. These cartoons have such a wide aspect ratio. I took a billion screen caps of Grievous on the television version and they look all squished to me now that I've seen yours. heh.

[Mek]

Wow. These cartoons have such a wide aspect ratio. I took a billion screen caps of Grievous on the television version and they look all squished to me now that I've seen yours. heh.
That's how they appear on the Official Site.

I was surprised at the aspect ratio m'self. D=

[Supremus]

That's how they appear on the Official Site.

I was surprised at the aspect ratio m'self. D=They are both squashed and cropped to appear wider than they really are... or because the fools over at Hyperspace don't know what they're doing, as is evident by the way they also butcher their videos.

[Batman91]

Just saw the first twelve minute chapter of clone wars2 can't wait to see tomorrow's conclusion:D

[I.R Joey]

Wonderful, truly wonderful.

Dark, passionate, action packed everything I could hope for. The backgrounds were on par with the best backgrounds I've seen on Cartoon Network (including Samurai Jack itself).

The dialoge and the charecter motivations were spelled out here more than in the previous chapters and it profited tremendously from that. I've been a fan of Grey Delisle for a while now and the way she voiced Padme only increased my admiration.

The 2d and 3d blended tremendously well unlike other shows that have attempted to use them both.

I'll stop gushing now, but this was truly beutiful to watch.

[mr jinx]

what was the deal with the QGJ flashback. was that a dream? or a memory?

[Space Kitty]

So, did they end up showing the new Billy and Mandy, like it was shown in the CN schedule? I missed it.:(

[SS4goku]

Monday is March 21. Tuesday March 22, and so on.

I was wondering why this was freakin' 2 days early. :D
Oh no i for got to watch Star Wars. Man where did you get your Avatar at, and plus is that two women hugging each other that's missed up, because it's looks like, nevermind.

[I.R Joey]

what was the deal with the QGJ flashback. was that a dream? or a memory?
Sounds like a line from Big O.

By the way did anyone raise an eyebrow at the suggestiveness of the scenes between Padme and Anakin? I know that they're married but still it seemed rather intense and passionate for what I'd expect in this kind of series.

[HellCat]

Just saw most of 22 and all of 23

22- Not to much to say as this was mostly a big battle. It was nice to see Anakin and Obi-Wan acting like allies instead of warring master and apprentice. Dooku training Grievous was also good.

23- So the Seperatists attack Coruscant...you can tell we're building to the finish. Really liked getting to see how the Jedi handled things- Yoda's Force powers were impressive but believable, Mace was toned down from the one man army of last time and what better strategy then "If the enemy shoots down your ship, seize one of theirs"? :D Palpatine was played as slightly too senile...you'd almost think he wanted Grievous to burst in ;). Anakin and Obi-Wan's side of things is reminding me of Samurai Jack.

[Eddy]

So far it's off to a great start.

[Rook]

Sounds like a line from Big O.

By the way did anyone raise an eyebrow at the suggestiveness of the scenes between Padme and Anakin? I know that they're married but still it seemed rather intense and passionate for what I'd expect in this kind of series.
i believe thats the first time something in starwars had a flashback.

[Supremus]

Aaaw, I had been led to believe we would get 2 new eps each day, but 23 was so good it felt like 2 anyway. I'm not going to comment on the details as the US people are still behind, but it was a great episode. Overall this series is far more satisfying than the first, certainly more than the first 10 chapters. They've really got the CG down as well. Sometimes it's actually hard to tell what's CG and what isn't, which is something a LOT of other shows could learn from.

[HellCat]

Aaaw, I had been led to believe we would get 2 new eps each day, but 23 was so good it felt like 2 anyway. I'm not going to comment on the details as the US people are still behind, but it was a great episode. Overall this series is far more satisfying than the first, certainly more than the first 10 chapters. They've really got the CG down as well. Sometimes it's actually hard to tell what's CG and what isn't, which is something a LOT of other shows could learn from.
I'm probably going to get roasted for this but since last time round we were a week behind the US I see the day or two difference as fitting justice.

[Supremus]

I'm probably going to get roasted for this but since last time round we were a week behind the US I see the day or two difference as fitting justice.heh, absolutely. :D Still, with no spoiler warning in the subject, and the fact that the thread is intended for the US airings, perhaps it would be best to leave out specific details, or not post at all, until they have aired in the US.

[Mek]

Oh, do you guys (both Americans and British) have to get catty about these sorta things? I mean really. =/

No one's the better man. So you get two a day and we get 'em once. Big deal. :shrug:

In the end... we all end up downloading them online. :D :sweat:

[Matt-a-Tastic]

They showed Episode 22 yesterday? ****

I didnt know that I thought they were just showing the one.

I also missed episodes 23 - 24 today becasue I was at collage and forgot to tape it (I dont normally do collage on Tuesdays)

Damn I'm annoyed :angry:

So when is the next showing... of any of the episodes

[Ultra Mike]

what was the deal with the QGJ flashback. was that a dream? or a memory?
I'm going with Memory since if it was a dream we would of seen Anakin sleeping and waking up at some point during it.

So, did they end up showing the new Billy and Mandy, like it was shown in the CN schedule? I missed it.
Yeah, they showed it right after the new CW. "The Problem With Billy". I missed half of it because I forgot there was a new B&M after CW but the half I saw was pretty good.

[Supremus]

They showed Episode 22 yesterday? ****

I didnt know that I thought they were just showing the one.

I also missed episodes 23 - 24 today becasue I was at collage and forgot to tape it (I dont normally do collage on Tuesdays)

Damn I'm annoyed :angry:

So when is the next showing... of any of the episodesDon't they have EPGs in your neck of the woods? Anyway, 22 and 23 air again tonight from 18:00. Hope you see this in time.

Presumably, 23 and 24 will air tomorrow at...

8:00
16:00
18:00

[HellCat]

If I remember correctly, the Qui-Gon scene was followed by Yoda coming out of meditation. What was shown was Qui-Gon submitting Anakin for the final trial (it was the tree Luke enters in ESB and has to fight the illusion of Vader). Since Yoda later says Anakin being knighted is "the will of the Force", I take it that it was Qui-Gon speaking through the Force and telling Yoda that he felt Anakin was ready. Other areas of the EU have had Yoda talking to Qui-Gon in meditation during the Clone Wars.

[EHal]

Great episode. Did anyone else spot the Dulok from the old Ewoks cartoon in the crowd when Anakin was meeting with Padme?

[Matt-a-Tastic]

Don't they have EPGs in your neck of the woods? Anyway, 22 and 23 air again tonight from 18:00. Hope you see this in time.

Presumably, 23 and 24 will air tomorrow at...

8:00
16:00
18:00Yeah I caught episode 22... but they didnt show episode 23

[Supremus]

Yeah I caught episode 22... but they didnt show episode 23at 18:00??? What was the other episode, then? 21? Seems strange they would air 22 and 23 earlier in the day and then drop it at 18:00. You didn't just switch over at the ad break and think that was it, did you?

[Matt-a-Tastic]

at 18:00??? What was the other episode, then? 21? Seems strange they would air 22 and 23 earlier in the day and then drop it at 18:00. You didn't just switch over at the ad break and think that was it, did you?
Damn, I forgot again, your right, I did switch over.... well I actally swiched of but hey.

Were are you from anyway?

[IanC]

So in the US they squeeze CW in to fit the full screen? Over here they are showing it WS.

[Supremus]

Damn, I forgot again, your right, I did switch over.... well I actally swiched of but hey.Heh, well you'll have another crack at it tomorrow.

Were are you from anyway?As soon as I find out, you'll be the first to know. :)

So in the US they squeeze CW in to fit the full screen? Over here they are showing it WS.Surely not? They aired 1-20 in widescreen. In fact, I don't think there is a fullscreen version available to broadcasters at all. The confusion seems to be about the Hyperspace screenshots, which as a result of squashing and cropping appear wider than on TV. That said, depending on the broadcaster, cable company, and individual TV settings, you can lose a little bit off the sides, but I compared the screenshots to the PAL broadcast, and with the HS images resized to the correct aspect ratio they were virtually identical.

[kaine23]

Dang my Direct TV not working right!!

[PennyCat]

Cartoon Network will show all five episodes back-to-back at 2000 hours ET/PT on March 26, 2005 for those who miss the nightly 12 minute episodes at 1900 hours ET/PT on March 21-25, 2005. http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/agree/3.gif
A certain somebody named Keeper forgot that they last ended on chapter twenty and thought this week CN was airing like, 15-20. Since that would've been silly with me buying the DVD today and all, we decided not to tape it.

Yes, I realize I'm silly, too, for believing the dummy. :)

[I.R Joey]

Got another good one in Chapter 22. I especially loved the backgrounds in this one, it truly showed the skill of these artists.
My brother kept trying to insist that this was a Flash show and I kept telling him that it wasn't. I told him that the fight scenes were way to fluid to be Flash.
On dialoge, the scenes between Anikan and Obi-wan were alot better than some of the interactions in the last few movies I'd say.
One thing I didn't like however was the way they didn't really emphasize the scene between Anakin and Padme in the recap. Really should have.

Anyway, I'm waiting for tommorow night pretty anxiously.

[bigddan11]

I'm sure we US Clone Wars fans would appreciate any comments about the one day airing difference listed in spoilers. I know I'd appreciate keeping the suspense up to the next day. Now, to my Clone Wars comments:

Chapter 21- It was nice to see the ending of the battle with General Grievous, and to see that not all the Jedi were killed. Still, there was one Jedi Master that I thought would die that didn't, so I guess he might be around for Episode 3. It was also nice to see the Apprentice ceremnoy. I know they've talked about some of the trials in the books, but it would have been interesting to see the trials actually shown instead of just saying "Let's make Anakin a master." Also, it was good to see just how Anakin and Padme are in conspiracy with each other, and it makes some of the Clone Wars books that involve both of them make a little more sense. Finally, C-3PO has got his arrogant self back, especially with that new golden paint, yet he is still as cowardly as ever, and R2-D2 is going on missions with Anakin now. That's an interestnig development.

Chapter 22- Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship was strained before because Anakin would go off on his own without his master's consent, but now it's more obvious than ever. It also shows just why Anakin is swayed to the dark side. He always wants to go on the short cuts. Finally, we also see a little more on the Darth Sidious, Lord Tyranus, General Grievous relationship. We also hear that the Jedi know defeating him is the key to the end of the Clone Wars, yet we know from the episode 3 clips that that's not going to happen, and to see that Palpatine is basically manipulating the council however he feels is interesting. It's no wonder they don't trust him in the Episode 3 clips.

Finally, as for spoilers, since the Clone Wars shorts tell the story of the Clone Wars and not anything that takes place in Episode 3 (like they show how Anakin is a Master, how Obi-Wan is now on the Council, and basically answer other questions that could arise unless you watch the shorts or read the bokos), then I wouldn't consider these spoilers for Episode 3. Keep in mind Geroge Lucas just gave Tartovsky a brief outline of what he wanted in the shorts, but he straight out said that they wouldn't spoil anything in episode 3, so I'm watching them for continuity's sake.

Regarding the Clone Wasr Volume 1 DVD, now that they don't have the shorts broken up into 2 to 3 minute segments, you can see just how they tie into the movies better. 67 minutes is awfully short, but when you combine them with Volume 2, you get a full length featured film that ties into the movies better than anyone could have expected.

[HellCat]

I'm sure we US Clone Wars fans would appreciate any comments about the one day airing difference listed in spoilers. I know I'd appreciate keeping the suspense up to the next day. Now, to my Clone Wars comments:

Chapter 21- It was nice to see the ending of the battle with General Grievous, and to see that not all the Jedi were killed. Still, there was one Jedi Master that I thought would die that didn't, so I guess he might be around for Episode 3. It was also nice to see the Apprentice ceremnoy. I know they've talked about some of the trials in the books, but it would have been interesting to see the trials actually shown instead of just saying "Let's make Anakin a master." Also, it was good to see just how Anakin and Padme are in conspiracy with each other, and it makes some of the Clone Wars books that involve both of them make a little more sense. Finally, C-3PO has got his arrogant self back, especially with that new golden paint, yet he is still as cowardly as ever, and R2-D2 is going on missions with Anakin now. That's an interestnig development.

Chapter 22- Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship was strained before because Anakin would go off on his own without his master's consent, but now it's more obvious than ever. It also shows just why Anakin is swayed to the dark side. He always wants to go on the short cuts. Finally, we also see a little more on the Darth Sidious, Lord Tyranus, General Grievous relationship. We also hear that the Jedi know defeating him is the key to the end of the Clone Wars, yet we know from the episode 3 clips that that's not going to happen, and to see that Palpatine is basically manipulating the council however he feels is interesting. It's no wonder they don't trust him in the Episode 3 clips.

Finally, as for spoilers, since the Clone Wars shorts tell the story of the Clone Wars and not anything that takes place in Episode 3 (like they show how Anakin is a Master, how Obi-Wan is now on the Council, and basically answer other questions that could arise unless you watch the shorts or read the bokos), then I wouldn't consider these spoilers for Episode 3. Keep in mind Geroge Lucas just gave Tartovsky a brief outline of what he wanted in the shorts, but he straight out said that they wouldn't spoil anything in episode 3, so I'm watching them for continuity's sake.

Regarding the Clone Wasr Volume 1 DVD, now that they don't have the shorts broken up into 2 to 3 minute segments, you can see just how they tie into the movies better. 67 minutes is awfully short, but when you combine them with Volume 2, you get a full length featured film that ties into the movies better than anyone could have expected.
I could put them in spoiler boxes if needed...but again, that's a luxury I didn't get with the last batch of eps. I honestly aren't out to ruin anyone's enjoyment of these episodes, but do we always have to cater to America's whims?

By the way- Anakin was made a Knight, not a Master.

[HellCat]

24- A bit of a weak episode in some ways. I didn't really care for the no-name Jedi trying to save Palpatine. I'm glad that Grievous design took a big leap towards his final film design. Anakin's soul searching was good, especially his relation to the warrior who grew stronger and stronger but was becoming more and more evil and the paintings morphing into Vader's mask. Didn't really care for the Seperatists plot- Anakin vs mutant hamsters?

[Sketch]

Impressive, MOST impressive. I missed 21 though. 22 was quite enjoyable. I can't wait till Saturday when I can watch all the episodes together on Toonami.

[Batman91]

IMO I liked chapter 22 more than chapter 21.I liked the part when that guy (I don't know his name) said:

Guy:It will take 100 jedi to take down this fort(minical laugh).
Droid:Enemy approuching sir.
Guy:How many jedi do they have?1000?
Droid:No.
Guy:80?
Droid:No sir less than that sir.
Guy:50?
Droid:No.
Guy(Yelling)WELL HOW MANY ARE THERE!
Droid:2 sir.

That cracked me up:D

[HellCat]

IMO I liked chapter 22 more than chapter 21.I liked the part when that guy (I don't know his name) said:

Guy:It will take 100 jedi to take down this fort(minical laugh).
Droid:Enemy approuching sir.
Guy:How many jedi do they have?1000?
Droid:No.
Guy:80?
Droid:No sir less than that sir.
Guy:50?
Droid:No.
Guy(Yelling)WELL HOW MANY ARE THERE!
Droid:2 sir.

That cracked me up:D
That scene was great, classic Genndy and an example of what makes Clone Wars so entertaining.

[Tzomisx]

Chapter 23 was just so frickin' amazing...

[Rook]

23 is superb...
Fighter launch sequence.
What you think is a bunch of stars, is hundreds and hundreds of ships.

Yoda, force handling everything.
I loved that scene with the trooper with red tattoos.
Yoda/Windu dual fight was awesome.

Palpatine observing the battle while drinking, thats so wrong.

[Obi]

The ARC trooper fending off Super Battle Droids with a machine gun and a pistol while trying to report that they were outnumbered was AWESOME.


And Palpatine is still the man.

[PeppeRaskell1]

Have to miss 23-25 this week (the show's on at 7, I don't get off work 'till 8, and I don't usually get home before 8:30), so I'll probably be taping it on Saturday.:mad:

[Charlie]

So, is C3P0's voice the same guy from the movies? I swear they sound just alike.

[bigddan11]

Yes. C-3PO's VA is the only one in Clone wars that is the same as the movie.

[Scirel]

It`s hard to believe that there are only two more episodes. wonder how this is gonna wrap up...

[kaine23]

You gotta love the ARC Troopers.

Chapster 21 rocked. Nice to see the knighting ceremony and 3P0 getting his gold paintjob too.

[Supremus]

24- A bit of a weak episode in some ways. I didn't really care for the no-name Jedi trying to save Palpatine. I'm glad that Grievous design took a big leap towards his final film design. Anakin's soul searching was good, especially his relation to the warrior who grew stronger and stronger but was becoming more and more evil and the paintings morphing into Vader's mask. Didn't really care for the Seperatists plot- Anakin vs mutant hamsters?Yep, I agree. A so-so episode at best. Nothing to get excited about, and to make matters worse, Toonami aired a really crappy NTSC video conversion. I hope this doesn't mean they couldn't get the episodes in time and that 25 will be equally bad.

I did like the trick with the cape, though. Grievous should have watched "The Incredibles" before he designed his outfit.

[I.R Joey]

Strangely enough I didn't enjoy 23 as much as the last two. It just didn't seem to grab me as much. It's not that anything was wrong with it, it's just that it wasn't as jaw dropping.


Ep 24 looks like its going to rock though.

[Harley_Quinn]

So are all these episode that airing this week the final Clone Wars we'll see. Meaning, is Friday's episode the finale to the whole series?

[bigddan11]

So are all these episode that airing this week the final Clone Wars we'll see. Meaning, is Friday's episode the finale to the whole series?Yes and no. It is the finale to the Clone Wars shorts, but we know it's not the finale since Star Wars has so many books and 4 movies occurring after the Clone Wars shorts.

You know what would be nice to see as the next set of shorts if Lucasfilm does start doing Star Wars cartoons again? It'd be nice to see what happens inbetween episode 3 and 4 (like how to Rebellion gets established), and I've always wanted to see Shadows of the Empire in some format other than print.

[bigddan11]

Well, Grievous has certainly moved up in terms of agression. He's leading an attack against the Jedi's on Coruscant. That's defintley a bold move, but I'm wondering if Palpatine set it all up just to get rid of more of the Jedi. I'm assuming that Palpatine is Sidious, so the main reason he wouldn't leave his offices are so the Jedi would be seperated. The fighting sequences with Yoda using the Force and Mace Windu on the droid ship were pretty cool, and we get to see more of Mace's man handling of the battle droids.

On the other side the suspense is building. Anakin is undergoing his final test. Will it be this test that leads him to the dark side? It is defintly getting suspenseful.

[HellCat]

Disapointment for those of us in the UK- no new episode today, just the exact same eps as yesterday. Since they're airing them all tomorrow, my guess is this is how they plan to make people sit through 4 repeats to catch the new finale.

[Supremus]

Disapointment for those of us in the UK- no new episode today, just the exact same eps as yesterday. Since they're airing them all tomorrow, my guess is this is how they plan to make people sit through 4 repeats to catch the new finale.I think Toonami managed to confuse themselves a little bit with this series. I was told there would be 2 new episodes each day. Not sure if that means they thought there were 10 episodes, or if they were planning to run the series twice in the first week? And then they messed up with the crappy version of the already quite crappy chapter 24.

[The Koopinator]

I didn't like Chapter 24. Seemed like a wasted effort to me. However, I liked the Grievous cape bit. And what was with the mutant thing?

[HellCat]

I didn't like Chapter 24. Seemed like a wasted effort to me. However, I liked the Grievous cape bit. And what was with the mutant thing?
In the Seperatist base, one of the screens seemed to be showing blueprints for Grievous. Perhaps the captured warriors are being tested on to create an army of Grievous-like warriors or upgrades for the General himself.

I think Toonami managed to confuse themselves a little bit with this series. I was told there would be 2 new episodes each day. Not sure if that means they thought there were 10 episodes, or if they were planning to run the series twice in the first week? And then they messed up with the crappy version of the already quite crappy chapter 24.
Personally, I get the feeling that word reached Lucasfilm about the day or two difference and Toonami received a slap on the wrist. Given the poor video of 24, it's also possible they may not have a copy (or at least an airable one) episode 25. Most likely though it's a gimmick to make everyone watch the big Friday showing.

[LordTerminal]

and I've always wanted to see Shadows of the Empire in some format other than print. What about the 64 game?

[Strollymonster]

I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but from the episode in which they sneak into the shielded city through the sewer, Obi-Wan steals Han's line from A New Hope about discovering a whole new kind of smell...

Little things like that make me love these cartoons...

So how much pleading do I have to do to get Lucas to do the cartoons for every gap between movies? I wanna see Shadows of the Empire!

[Rook]

In the Seperatist base, one of the screens seemed to be showing blueprints for Grievous. Perhaps the captured warriors are being tested on to create an army of Grievous-like warriors or upgrades for the General himself.


Personally, I get the feeling that word reached Lucasfilm about the day or two difference and Toonami received a slap on the wrist. Given the poor video of 24, it's also possible they may not have a copy (or at least an airable one) episode 25. Most likely though it's a gimmick to make everyone watch the big Friday showing. Or it could be grevious's tribe and this is an act of revenge for most likely being banished...I wish theyd given a better backstory for him.

and it doesnt seem like there would be a 5 more eps after 25, teh space battle is on and palpatine will be captured at some point...or they could somehow stretch it even further forcing the enemy armada to leave...then come back for the movie yada yada yada...

Anyone see the animated cave art at the end depicted a darth vader like visual after the female voice crying out Anakin?

They should do the rise of the rebellion, that would fit well with the Empire at War game coming this fall. I really dont get how the transition from republic fighter to tie fighter came into play, the way things are going you'd think the empire would be using x-wings.

[Golden Darkness]

They should do the rise of the rebellion, that would fit well with the Empire at War game coming this fall. I really dont get how the transition from republic fighter to tie fighter came into play, the way things are going you'd think the empire would be using x-wings.
Well, from what I read, the X-Wings were to be an Imperial starfighter... but the designers defected to the Rebels.

[Rook]

Well, from what I read, the X-Wings were to be an Imperial starfighter... but the designers defected to the Rebels.
yeah i read about that, but would u call that an excuse to stop using the republic fighters altogether?

[Strollymonster]

yeah i read about that, but would u call that an excuse to stop using the republic fighters altogether?
As I recall from that Star Wars book of vehicles, the TIE Fighters were easier and cheaper to mass produce because they required less maintanence and didn't include life-support systems...that's why Imperial fighter pilots were always in spacesuits.

Of course, we're discussing a fictional universe in which bacteria give people telekinetic powers, so we shouldn't take realism too far...

[kaine23]

Mace riding a TF droid ship rocked!!

Love the pre-X-Wing ship designs and the Jedi ships looking like a cross between the jedi Starfighter and a TIE. The clone troopers are looking more and more like stormtroopers every day!

[Rook]

makes you wonder if all the troopers pulled a "180" on the jedi, they seem to communicate on more than just Leader to follower basis...

[HellCat]

Or it could be grevious's tribe and this is an act of revenge for most likely being banished...I wish theyd given a better backstory for him.

Doubt it. The planet is an Outer Rim world. In Star Wars stories, Outer Rim world= place cut off enough to easily go unnoticed.

[Harley_Quinn]

Yes and no. It is the finale to the Clone Wars shorts, but we know it's not the finale since Star Wars has so many books and 4 movies occurring after the Clone Wars shorts.

You know what would be nice to see as the next set of shorts if Lucasfilm does start doing Star Wars cartoons again? It'd be nice to see what happens inbetween episode 3 and 4 (like how to Rebellion gets established), and I've always wanted to see Shadows of the Empire in some format other than print.
Thanks, I was reffering to the Clone War shorts. I think what you mentioned would be awesome after ROTS comes out

[bigddan11]

The Shadows of the Empire game doesn't even follow the book, so I don't consider it to be an accurate out of print format.

Now to the actual chapter 24 review. I liked how they had the train station battle, and I enjoyed watching Anakin's vision, but Chapter 24 seemed to struggle just like Movie 1 and 2 did in the fact that they only focused on the action which allowed the story to develop, but after hearing so much speaking in this set of shorts, it seems strange without it. I also would have liked to see how Yoda and Mace were doing in there battle, but it didn't go back to them at all.

[HellCat]

I think the problem with 24 for me was the battle felt too light hearted. The music seemed more fitting of a comedy then a desperate chase, Shaak Ti's character design was too 'cute' (by the way, they REALLY need more than one female VA), the Ithorian Jedi's throat powers seemed too unbelieavble, the Talz Jedi constantly craddling Palpatine looked silly and Grievous who had previously been shown as a deadly warrior just runs around randomly waving his sabers.

[shadowstrain]

At this point, I think that Season III has overused Grievious, making last year's finale seem like yesterday's news.

[Supremus]

Chapter 25:

25 wasn't particularly good. It was better than 25, but not as good as 21-23. The Jedi battle was nice, but Anakin's quest was painfully boring. At least Toonami's copy of this episode was back to normal quality. The series ends with a whimper as they go off for what appears to be a big space battle. Surely there must be another 5 episodes before the movies is out???
At this point, I think that Season III has overused Grievious, making last year's finale seem like yesterday's news.In a way I agree. I am happy to see more CW episodes, but the ending of the micro-series was a very dramatic setup of Grievious and the 3rd movie.

[HellCat]

At this point, I think that Season III has overused Grievious, making last year's finale seem like yesterday's news.
I can kind agree with that. Chapter 20 was supposed to act as a tease to keep us interested but now we've basically seen all his tricks. Speaking of which...

25- Pretty good. Grievous vs Jedi round 2 was much improved with the General revealing his 4 arm trick. Anyone else notice the subtle nod to Palpy's true ID (he backs away into the shadows from Grievous, stopping when the shadows cover the same area of space that his hood does)? The resolution to Anakin's plot was intense, with him throwing the scientists to the mutants and crushing the head of the project. I was expecting a fairytale ending with the warriors turning back but instead they'll have to adjust. Did the battle remind anyone else of 'Jack and the Woolies'? There were a few similiarities. The short ends where ROTS begins and Anakin looks set on saving his 'friend'

[VCXZX]

(by the way, they REALLY need more than one female VA), Cree Summer voiced Luminera.

And just because there's one primary female VA, doesn't mean its bad. Grey De Lisle's trying.

[HellCat]

Cree Summer voiced Luminera.

And just because there's one primary female VA, doesn't mean its bad. Grey De Lisle's trying.
Well, she doesn't sound like Padme..too squeaky.

[Conan-san]

Lemme go on record by saying that Anikin's vision of his future was one of the most powerful pieces of animation I have seen in ages.

[Supremus]

Well, she doesn't sound like Padme..too squeaky.Yes, I don't really like her Padme. Not like she has had an awful lot to say in this series, though. A lot of the voices are a bit so-so, and Anakin and Obi are just downright awful.

[VCXZX]

Anakin and Obi are just downright awful.
Mat Lucas's Anakin has improved from the beginning chapters where it was downright wooden.

James Arnold Taylor's Obi-Wan has been alright. He's best when he delivers the classic Star Wars lines.

The best voice has been Tom Kane as Yoda. Almost a dead ringer for Frank Oz.

[HellCat]

I'm glad they recast Obi-Wan. His voice in the Clone Wars game was a montone drone. His animated VA has a good grasp of Obi-Wan's dry wit.
I think Dooku's voice has been good. I'm a bit up in the air on Palpatine's two voices- his Sith voice sounds too vicious. It's been rather relaxed in the movies and even his later Emperor voice put emphasis only on certain words as if he was struggling to keep in the dark energy consuming him. His Chancellor voice also sounds too untrustworthy and arrogant wheras in the movies he sounds like a frail old man.

[shadowstrain]

Definitley an above satisfactory conclusion. The quad-armed monster reprised his role, and Mace maintained his god-like abilities (at least in respect to the Clone Wars). I also enjoyed Shak Ti's simultaneous mace/lightsaber wielding.

A toast to those involved in the production of this masterpiece. You guys rock.

[Shogun373]

It made sense to leave the second season where it ended. Episode III is suppose to pick up with the invasion of Coruscant and Anakin going after Grievious. I really thought Clone Wars had messed up by starting the attack on Coruscant, but now that it has ended it makes sense.

[bigddan11]

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These were made specifically for the Toonami Talkback page, so since tonight is the Toonami run of Chapters 21 thru 25, I thought it'd be appropriate to bring them over to this post.

[JohnCrichton]

Would this be more properly called Season 2 or Season 3?

[bigddan11]

Would this be more properly called Season 2 or Season 3?
Well, the first 20 shorts were designed to be shown together like they now are on the Clone Wars Volume 1 DVD, so this would be more properly called season 2, hence why they call it Clone Wars Volume 2.

[Obi]

Most Star Wars fans (at least on TheForce.Net) consider it Season 3 aka Volume 2.


I just bought the Volume 1 DVD today alongside TPM's DVD (which I never got the first time around). Wee!

[bigddan11]

I always consider it season 2 because the US is basically the only country that didn't show all 20 shorts at the same time. Because CN classified 11 thru 20 as the new season of Clone Wars, then most people think of it as season 3, but in reality there were only 2 seasons made. CN authorized 20 shorts, and after the first 10 were successful they asked for 5 more.

[Demonic Raven]

That Star Wars remix music is just too awesome.

[Obi]

I never really liked how Genndy made the lightsabers pointy at the end.


Also, Palpatine's VA and the way they write him makes it waaaay too obvious who he is. I mean, they drop hints in the movies occasionally (especially Qui-Gon's funeral in Episode I0, but come on.

[PaQ]

Not bad, I like these 12 minute or so episode versions more than the quickies from before. Didn't see all of the first chapter, but nice to see Anakin get knighted (interesting looking ceremony) and I liked the practice session Greivious and Dooku had in Chapter 2. Very entertaining so far.

[Demonic Raven]

It is physical law that a team up between Yoda and Mace Windu can't be beat. :p

So far it is absolutely wonderful.

[Obi]

Seeing the Jedi take on so many enemies and just utterly smash them always makes me wonder how Coleman Trebor died so dang easily in AotC.


And he was a Council member!!!

[NickWhiz1]

Oh man.

What a PERFECT lead-in to Episode III.

It can't come soon enough.

[PaQ]

Poor jedi girl. =(

Oh man, they really make Mace look good in these clone wars, really shows why he's right there with Yoda. He almost took down Greivious with just those force "grips".

[shadowstrain]

Oh man.

What a PERFECT lead-in to Episode III.

It can't come soon enough.
You're telling me. :cool:

[Happy]

Man this is really quite violent. I am hoping that the movie will look this great.

[maximumzero]

When Chapter 25 ended I just sat for about 3 minutes, in complete awe, of this entire thing.

Genndy and Cartoon Network have created here perhaps the greatest piece of made-for-TV animation ever. The fight scenes were absolutely top notch.

I love how the cave paintings were nuttin' but a crapload of foreshadowing...Anakin's eventual decent into "more machine than man" and how he basically kills everyone around him--even those he loves. (Edit: Same thing with those scientists...he kills one of them in cold blood. Ho-lee Shite. )

[Fan of Sponge]

I watched the shorts that I have missed during the week including Fridays. I must say Ankin comes in as the hero, but will come out as the villian. I'm pumped up to see the movie. They left off right where Obi-Wan and Ankin will enter the battle scene in Episode III. All I have to do is to wait...for another two months. The series never bored me and they had their great moments. The third time around doing the shorts were better for handling them. Instead of the five minute shorts, they did it for twelve. Good job crew for the animation! I give an A.

[maximumzero]

Rewatching the episode 3 trailer after seeing this series makes you notice things--such as Anakin's scar over his eye...I wondered why that was there before I saw the series.

Also Grevious in the trailer=Awesome.

Finally, the bit in the end of episode 25 with him reaching into the force field to grab the crystal was just...wow. That was intense.

[Demonic Raven]

Genndy is truly a master. Awesome fight scenes...really top notch animation and direction. It is the full package and it truly does rock.

10/10..which maybe doesn't do it justice. Unbelevably good.

[bigddan11]

Well, for those who are eagerly awaiting the episode 3 movie, then do not fret. You can get the Revenge of the Sith book in about 2 weeks time. It will contain scenes that aren't in the movie.

Also, coming out the same day, they have Star Wars: The Last of the Jedi Volume 1. Some book stores have accidentally put it out already, and let me assure you it does contain spoilers to the movie. Read them simaltaneously, and yuo will see just what a great and horrific Universe that Clone Wars falls into.

[Master Moron]

Wow, those Storm Troopers sure are dispensible...

[EJill34]

Pretty great stuff, I must say. The backgrounds were absolutely breathtaking and the animation and directing pretty much speak for themselves.

I'd rather see Revenge of the Sith animated in this style and released to theatres. Animation is superior to live-action for this kind of franchise.

[PeppeRaskell1]

I came in at the middle of Episode 22 (just got home from work) and sat through the whole remainder of the show. I haven't been this glued to the TV since...well, Samurai Jack, natch!

And I thought I saw a little bit of Jack in Anakin Skywalker; attacking and slaying the giant Whatever-It-Was without a moment's hesitation, freeing the mutated warriors and attacking the Chritchellites...'scuse me, scientists--definitely right out of "Episode IV" with the Woolies. Ani even ventured out there and fought bare-chested, as Jack surely would if he found himself in the world(s) of Star Wars.

And I guess I'll have to go see Episode III, because the mini-series ended just as Ani and Obi-Wan were getting ready to head for Coruscant to rescue Palpatine, and left me going, "Huh? It's over? That's all there is?":confused: :mad: :crying:

[Speedy Boris]

Dang, I can't wait for Episode III after seeing episodes 23-25. It's just a shame that I didn't start watching this show sooner.

[shadowstrain]

Well, for those who are eagerly awaiting the episode 3 movie, then do not fret. You can get the Revenge of the Sith book in about 2 weeks time. It will contain scenes that aren't in the movie.
Don't all the ROTS books (toys as well) come out on 4/2/05 (next Saturday)?

[PeppeRaskell1]

Anybody out there know if CN plans to re-air Chapters 21-25? I taped it last night, but my tape begins halfway into "Chapter 22" (I turned off the cable box before leaving for work, so there was about 24 minutes of dead air before I got home and turned the box back on again.)

(Kicks self, then bangs head on wall.)

[ajac]

very awsome! Just put the hour and a half marathon on dvd so now I can watch it when I dont feel like firing up the dvr! Good job lucas now u got me in the serious mood for episode 3

[Tash]

I never really liked how Genndy made the lightsabers pointy at the end.


Also, Palpatine's VA and the way they write him makes it waaaay too obvious who he is. I mean, they drop hints in the movies occasionally (especially Qui-Gon's funeral in Episode I, but come on.Wait... he's someone else?

[HellCat]

Wait... he's someone else?
Darth Sidious

[PeppeRaskell1]

Darth Sidious
I thought he was acting too calmly and nonchalantly. A real man in his position would be you-know-whatting in his Jockey Shorts in the situation he's in.

[Rook]

Wait... he's someone else?
He's one of two outcomes:
A. He is senator palpatine and darth sidious who will later become the emperor.

B. He is senator palpatine and a completely different sith to darth sidious and more likely a clone/twin brother...and when is all said and done in episode 3 this palpatine will be killed in some way either by sidious or one of the jedi(probably windu in some heroic sacrifice)

Personally i think darth sidious is a true sith. I mean to wait this long...thats a lot of patience.

wouldn;t really call this a spoiler...

[HellCat]

He's one of two outcomes:
A. He is senator palpatine and darth sidious who will later become the emperor.

B. He is senator palpatine and a completely different sith to darth sidious and more likely a clone/twin brother...and when is all said and done in episode 3 this palpatine will be killed in some way either by sidious or one of the jedi(probably windu in some heroic sacrifice)

Personally i think darth sidious is a true sith. I mean to wait this long...thats a lot of patience.

wouldn;t really call this a spoiler...
Some people may have chosen to watch the series in chronological order, so we should respect their wishes.

He is Sidious, Lucas has said so. The idea of him being a clone of Sidious is an awful theory as it adds unneeded complications

[Fone Bone]

Absolutely outstanding. Am I the only one who prefers these cartoons to the movies?

I love the animation and fight scenes. I loved C-3PO and Yoda. This is just one of the neatest cartoons ever. I'm looking forward to picking up the DVD. Awesome beyond belief.

I REALLY liked the scene of the Jedi protecting Palpatine. I LOVED his unconcerned attitude while these trained Jedis were freaking out. Perfect.

Mace Windu kicks ass even when he ISN'T Sam Jackson. That says something.

Anakin's cave vision reminded me of the animation of the stories in Watership Down. I too noticed the Darth Vader helmet.

Honestly this was the greatest cartoon I've seen seen JLU's The Doomsday Sanction. And this actually had terrific animation. *****.

[Harley_Quinn]

Does anyone know if CN will be replaying chapters 21-25 again on TV

[Fan of Sponge]

I don't know. They might show the entire series (Chapters 1-25) all together before the movie comes out in May; however, Chapters 21-25 are coming out on DVD.

[Conekiller]

My Random thoughts on Clone Wars vol 2:


-Wookies! but what purpose did they serve, they showed up for a few seconds and are never showed again. (needs more wookies :crying: )

-Arc Trooper kicking ass!:anime:

-Mace Windu continues to rule! :D

-Anakin's "ghost hand" vision reminded me of Aku's origin story.:eek:

-Needs more ObiWan :yawn:

- Palpatine being disrespectful to Greivous. :zim:

-Grevious and Dooku training. :cool:
I could have really REALLY gone thru this whole thing without having to see Anakin's armpit hair:ack:

[Fone Bone]

I could have really REALLY gone thru this whole thing without having to see Anakin's armpit hair:ack:I wasn't going to say anything but I found that kind of disturbing too.

[Mek]

Don't all the ROTS books (toys as well) come out on 4/2/05 (next Saturday)?
Yeah, they do.

[bigddan11]

-Wookies! but what purpose did they serve, they showed up for a few seconds and are never showed again. (needs more wookies :crying: )
The Wookies were shown to illustrate that the droid armies are invading more and more planets. Keep in mind that Kashykk is already invaded in Episode 3. Now we see when it happens.

[Steiner]

The Wookies were shown to illustrate that the droid armies are invading more and more planets. Keep in mind that Kashykk is already invaded in Episode 3. Now we see when it happens.
Like he said. That's where Chewie comes into play in the movie, and it was just part of a montage of the Separatists invading different planets.

[Harley_Quinn]

I don't know. They might show the entire series (Chapters 1-25) all together before the movie comes out in May; however, Chapters 21-25 are coming out on DVD.
When does the DVD for the second half come out?

[DocForbin]

Darth Sidious
I knew about this six years ago, and the person who told me that was none other than former Toon Magazine Associate Editor Michelle Klein-Hass. We were regulars at a Daria chat room and she told me about the connection when my hometown theater scored The Phantom Menace.

[HellCat]

I knew about this six years ago, and the person who told me that was none other than former Toon Magazine Associate Editor Michelle Klein-Hass. We were regulars at a Daria chat room and she told me about the connection when my hometown theater scored The Phantom Menace.
I think quite alot of people knew/know...

[batmanbeyond13]

I already know what happens. Check out the adaptation of Episode 3 from Darkhorse Comics that's on sale now. It's suppose to be out on April 2nd but I got it. Great stuff. I can't wait for the movie.

[Rook]

did a miss something, what happen to Durge or whatever that disformed body that obiwan exploded from the inside out?

[HellCat]

did a miss something, what happen to Durge or whatever that disformed body that obiwan exploded from the inside out?
That was probably the end of him. If not, his ultimate fate probably pops up in a novel or comic. Dooku goes through a string of Jango-like bodyguards (see Cyon Prax, who serves the role in the Clone Wars game).

[Ultra Mike]

Sorry about not commenting for awhile. Computer problems and all.

Chapter 22 Thoughts-

This is probably the closest we'll get to regularly seeing Obi-Wan and Anakin as Jedi "Brothers" in any form outside of the books probably. The montage scene of Anakin helping out the other Jedis felt very Samurai Jackish, but in a good sort of way. Truthfully, I didn't really like the way they were going in the ending after Anakin killed that beast, but it turned out pretty good overal.

Best Moments: The captain of the guards freaking out after hearing only two Jedi were attacking the temple, Anakin feeding off the living force, him and Obi-Wan navigating through the sewers, the Count Dooku/General Grevious training session (shows that even if Grevious is the new cool baddie for Episode III Dooku is still better then him) and Anakin taking care of the beast.

GRADE: 4 Stars out Of 5 Stars.

Chapter 23 Thoughts-

This is what I was anticpating most actually. The Yoda and Mace Windu scenes were my favorite from the original CW shorts, and they're just as good here. I was still kind of skeptical of the Anakin plot, but then when we found out it was for his "Test of the spirit" I was digging it. Usually, this would show the character evolving into a better person, showing his purity and the like, but we know that Anakin is a bit different then this, don't we?

Favorite Moments: The Dogfight throughout the city, Mace Windu stealing on of the fighters and shooting down others (it was just badass seeing him deflect a missle with his force powers) Yoda moving the two giant ships and making them crash into each other and running to the battle, the combined Yoda/Mace Windu attack on the droids, "When you travel with Qui-Gon-Jin around the universe you tend to pick up a few things", and Gervious shooting through the window.

GRADE: 4.625 Stars Out of 5 Stars.

Chapter 24 Thoughts-

Another well done chapter. I like the characterization of the un-named (except Shak-Taii) Jedi fighting with Grevious and showing they're various skills. Too bad we won't be getting to know much about them in Episode III probably. Oh well. The Anakin plot had a good middle but kind of filtered out toward the end where it was revealed he was helping out those mutated creatures and then they were about to attack him.

Best Moments: Palpatine getting Force grabbed before Grevious could get him, the Arc Troopers getting knocked out, the battle in the train station (espically how Shak-Taii took care of the robo-warriors), Anakin's Ghost hand sequence (very foreshadowy and differently animated I must say).

Grade: 4.125 Stars Out Of 5 Stars.

Chapter 25 Thoughts-

I admitt I saw this one with a few of my friends originally. And one of them honestly said that the character designs (he was a big fan of the original movies and plotlines and books) sucked, and another said (who is an artist) that the animation is bad and the "swordfighting is better on Inuyasha". (his words not mine). Well anyway I saw this more properly on Toonami's reruns and it was another good chapter. The ending had a bit more resolution then the ending to Volume One (which Genndy admittied in a DVD commentary would have been longer but were already going to overlong already). Nice foreshadowing of Palpetine. Will he still be kidnapped in Episode III or not?

Best Moments: Anakin fighting with the mutated creatures, Shak Taii's "sacrifice" and beating on some of the robots with they're own weapons, the little bit we saw of the continued Yoda and Mace vrs the robots fight, Anakin emploring the "remote control strangulation" (first time continuity wise I believe) on one of the scientists, Grevious getting knocked down by Mace Windu and Anakin getting his arm repaired.

Grade: 4.5 Out of 5 Stars.

Overall Chapters Grade: 4.4 Out Of 5 Stars.

[DBZALLSTAR]

So from here we go right into Episode III?
Or does the book Labyrinth of Evil take place after Clone Wars?

[Discloner]

I admitt I saw this one with a few of my friends originally. And one of them honestly said that the character designs (he was a big fan of the original movies and plotlines and books) sucked, and another said (who is an artist) that the animation is bad and the "swordfighting is better on Inuyasha". (his words not mine). You're friends need to re-evaluate their tastes...BIG time. :shrug:

Will he still be kidnapped in Episode III or not? Yeah. The series left off RIGHT where Episode III starts up. You know that yellow paragraph scroll at the beginning of all Star Wars movies? Clone Wars is basically what happens in Episode III's scroll.

[Ultra Mike]

Yeah. The series left off RIGHT where Episode III starts up. You know that yellow paragraph scroll at the beginning of all Star Wars movies? Clone Wars is basically what happens in Episode III's scroll.
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. But then again, Palpetine could be kidnapped throughout the entire clone wars and then you know be rescued right at the beginning of 3 or something like that. I don't know. I mean, I don't know the script of III, so I think it could happen, even though it probably won't.