Gotta vent...

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Okay, now, I respect the cause of fighting against cigerette addiction, I think it's very noble and a nice cause for someone to dedicate themselves to.

HOWEVER, if there is one thing I cannot stand is these damn TRUTH commercials. Every one has them either standing in front of some random Tobacco company giving some lame ass statistic...OR they have some kid telling his/her sob story, when really, it's their parents fault for starting to smoke in the first place.

But...now they've gone too far for my taste. These new "Fair Enough!" commercials borderline on completely unwatchabilty. I literally want to make myself blind and deaf through the bad actors, crappy laugh track, and the over used moral that "TEH CIGERETTES ARE BADZ STAY AWAY!!!" Look, we know the friggin consequences by now. If some kid wants to try to smoke, he's a dumbass...

Look, it's a worthy cause, but if they're just gonna use these annoying tactics that will be replayed OVER AND OVER again...I'm considering going Amish so I don't have to hear it on my TV...

[Sir T. Ghostal]

Amen. I'm sick of people going on TV and telling their "I smoked as a kid now I'm dying" story. Who cares? You decided to start smoking, face the consequences. The warnings are there, they just choose to ignore them.

[Czar Gato]

Ugh, I hate those commercials. Most people know the risks and aren't going to change due to some annyoning, self-righteous TV spot, IMO.

[Tapout]

I hope the loved ones of those people in these commercials all get hit by semitrucks hauling tobacco products.

[zmanjz]

And yet, I find the Truth ads specifically to be quite effective at their goals from a psycological point of view.

(Whereas you can tell when an anti-smoking ad has been made by a tobacco company. and their psycological effect is to initiate reverse implied thinking.)

[Bubblegum Girl]

I don't really care if everyone else smokes. it's their lungs they destorying not mine. I don't smoke cause the smell bothers me and I know its bad for me.

[Style]

Okay, now, I respect the cause of fighting against cigerette addiction, I think it's very noble and a nice cause for someone to dedicate themselves to.

HOWEVER, if there is one thing I cannot stand is these damn TRUTH commercials. Every one has them either standing in front of some random Tobacco company giving some lame ass statistic...OR they have some kid telling his/her sob story, when really, it's their parents fault for starting to smoke in the first place.

But...now they've gone too far for my taste. These new "Fair Enough!" commercials borderline on completely unwatchabilty. I literally want to make myself blind and deaf through the bad actors, crappy laugh track, and the over used moral that "TEH CIGERETTES ARE BADZ STAY AWAY!!!" Look, we know the friggin consequences by now. If some kid wants to try to smoke, he's a dumbass...

Look, it's a worthy cause, but if they're just gonna use these annoying tactics that will be replayed OVER AND OVER again...I'm considering going Amish so I don't have to hear it on my TV...
Sounds like you completely missed the point of the commercial. Supposedly the dialouge of the board meeting was real and really happened, and it's just so rediculous that the "lame sitcom" device is employed to lampoon it to highest degree. It's like "Wow, that sounds like it's out of a rediculous sitcom, but it was real."

[Eddie G.]

Okay, now, I respect the cause of fighting against cigerette addiction, I think it's very noble and a nice cause for someone to dedicate themselves to.

HOWEVER, if there is one thing I cannot stand is these damn TRUTH commercials. Every one has them either standing in front of some random Tobacco company giving some lame ass statistic...OR they have some kid telling his/her sob story, when really, it's their parents fault for starting to smoke in the first place.

But...now they've gone too far for my taste. These new "Fair Enough!" commercials borderline on completely unwatchabilty. I literally want to make myself blind and deaf through the bad actors, crappy laugh track, and the over used moral that "TEH CIGERETTES ARE BADZ STAY AWAY!!!" Look, we know the friggin consequences by now. If some kid wants to try to smoke, he's a dumbass...

Look, it's a worthy cause, but if they're just gonna use these annoying tactics that will be replayed OVER AND OVER again...I'm considering going Amish so I don't have to hear it on my TV...The point of the Truth commercials is not so much that people shouldn't smoke but that the cigerette companies are evil, and they are.

Of course people make their own choices, but the fact remains that these companies make products that they know people will use and that know many people will eventually die from. Adding onto this they've used in the past sickening tatics.

That is my main problem when people smoke, everytime they puff up or buy a pack they are supporting a force of evil. Evil on the scale of Stalin or Walmart.

[True Noir]

Hey! I like those commercials. The one with the girl watching her friend drown was really effective towards me. I never realized that just not helping a friend was almost like watching them hurt themselves like that bad.

[cross blues]

And yet, I find the Truth ads specifically to be quite effective at their goals from a psycological point of view.

(Whereas you can tell when an anti-smoking ad has been made by a tobacco company. and their psycological effect is to initiate reverse implied thinking.) a lot of those commercials make great points. unfortunately, the points are made to those who are non-smokers. all most smokers think after seeing one (of the commercials) is "I need a smoke". so that's the secret behind truth. the truth is, all it takes is a picture or the mention of the word cigarette or smoking to make a smoker/nicotine addict want one. all you smokers are wanting a cigarette right about now aren't ya?

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Sounds like you completely missed the point of the commercial. Supposedly the dialouge of the board meeting was real and really happened, and it's just so rediculous that the "lame sitcom" device is employed to lampoon it to highest degree. It's like "Wow, that sounds like it's out of a rediculous sitcom, but it was real."
No, I got the point. I see what they were trying to do. The problem is that they don't make it watchable. They were trying too hard to get their point across. "If you don't like it tough! It's Fair Enough!" I mean, seriously, do they really need to plug this BS over so much? I don't approve of what the companies do, but Truth needs to find a more watchable way of telling us....The sitcom angle gets two thumbs down.

[Martianinvader]

Wow, whenever Truth is brought up, nobody ever has anything nice to say about it. Would you rather have no smoking warnings at all? They're kinda the only ones right now....

I'd rather eat a big ol' bug, than ever take a stupid drug!

[Chris Wood]

When those commercials first started I kind of liked them, thinking it was cool to see someone sticking it to the tobacco companies. I quickly grew tired of them though. They're so sickenly self-righteous and obnoxious. Bunch of whiny hippies who don't know when to shut up.

[Ekkostar]

I never liked the Truth ads because there are no scare tatics like a PSA SHOULD have! It's all "Let's be like the kids and go with it".
I always liked the commericals that scared the crap out of me. I guess it's the same reason why I like the DiC logo.

[Terminatah]

You people keep reiterating, "Yeah, we already know cigarettes are bad," but it's initiatives like the TRUTH spots that keep the message out there in the first place. If they decided, "OK, everyone knows, let's stop advertising it," then more people would go uninformed, and eventually there would probably be more smokers.

I might also ask myself, which is worse, the people who go on TV to remind us that cigarette companies are giving the world cancer for profit, or the people who sit around on the internet whining about how annoying it is to be reminded.

-Terminatah

[Ekkostar]

I might also ask myself, which is worse, the people who go on TV to remind us that cigarette companies are giving the world cancer for profit, or the people who sit around on the internet whining about how annoying it is to be reminded.

-Terminatah

Either way it's still awfully entertaining to read people's whining online.

[Dark Fact]

Ha ha ha! You think those commercials are bad? You should see those stupid.ca ads they play in Canada all the time. :D

[SSJPabs]

I don't really care if everyone else smokes. it's their lungs they destorying not mine. I don't smoke cause the smell bothers me and I know its bad for me.So you're saying you support inhaling second hand smoke, or that you just leave when someone lights a ciggy?

Also I like the Truth ads.

[Artimus Gigan]

TYhey should show what happens when someone ingests a vial of one of the many posionious chemicals that are in ciggarettes...

throwing up your own blood is soooo much fun

[Speedy Boris]

I used to hate these TRUTH ads (and any anti-drug ad, in fact), because they were basically preaching to the choir. I'd be sitting there saying, "YES, I KNOW meth is bad for you- you don't have to cram it down my throat!" :rolleyes:

But those ads aren't really effective, anyway. The people who are currently smoking are going to keep smoking, whether because of skepticism towards the ad or because they're in too deep. Only a very very small percentage will go, "Gee, I never thought of it like THAT!" and quit cold turkey.

Besides, cigarettes are population control. I hate to sound like a cold heartless b*st*rd, but it's true. And the cigarette companies know this. If people want to slowly kill themselves on cigarettes, I'm not going to stop them. It's their choice, and in now way are they forced to smoke by the cigarette companies.

[Master Moron]

Sounds like you completely missed the point of the commercial. Supposedly the dialouge of the board meeting was real and really happened, and it's just so rediculous that the "lame sitcom" device is employed to lampoon it to highest degree. It's like "Wow, that sounds like it's out of a rediculous sitcom, but it was real."

Yes, but it doesn't work because the dialogue in the commercial doesn't even sound like a sitcom's dialogue, if it wasn't for the stupid laughtrack it wouldn't seem like a sitcom at all.

The point of the Truth commercials is not so much that people shouldn't smoke but that the cigerette companies are evil, and they are.

Of course people make their own choices, but the fact remains that these companies make products that they know people will use and that know many people will eventually die from. Adding onto this they've used in the past sickening tatics.


So, then, I assume you think McDonald's and Burger King are evil too? Their products kill a lot of people. But, you know, I think they should be allowed to make a product that kills people if that's what people want. I mean, fast food places have tried to make healthy products before, McDonald's tried a McLean Deluxe over a decade ago. Burger King had a Veggie Burger a few years ago. Actually, one of the healthiest sandwiches at McDonald's is probably the Grilled Chicken, but, I remember when I worked there almost no one ordered it. Everyone wanted to eat the Big Macs and Double Quarter Pounders.

Anyway...I'm getting off topic. The point is, if the tobacco companies made a tobacco product with less nicotine, no doubt less smokers would buy it. The tobacco companies are there to make a profit, they give people who don't care about their health what they want.

Hey! I like those commercials. The one with the girl watching her friend drown was really effective towards me. I never realized that just not helping a friend was almost like watching them hurt themselves like that bad.


Actually, I think that was a different series of ads. I think that was one of those anti-drug commercials. Now, the anti-drug commercials are FAR worse than the Truth commercials. I mean, at least the truth commercials seem to have factually accurate information, the anti-drug commercials are just pure propaganda. The anti drug commercials try to get the audience to believe that smoking marijuana can get you pregnant, make you shoot yourself, and cause terrorists to blow up buildings. Those commercials absolutely infuriate me as they pass on misinformation in order to fulfill a political agenda.

[Fone Bone]

I hope the loved ones of those people in these commercials all get hit by semitrucks hauling tobacco products.As someone who actually KNEW someone who was in a cigarette commercial after she died I have to say that this is the most heartless thing I have ever read. She died of lung cancer when she was 46. Most people don't think cigarettes can kill you that quick but they can.

The only thing I really dislike about those cigarette ads is the allegation that second-hand smoke kills when there is really no actual proof of this. Fortunately the PSAs have been laying off this claim for a while now.

[Conan-san]

Besides, cigarettes are population control. I hate to sound like a cold heartless b*st*rd, but it's true. And the cigarette companies know this. If people want to slowly kill themselves on cigarettes, I'm not going to stop them. It's their choice, and in now way are they forced to smoke by the cigarette companies. I agrre and this is coming from somone who has had a dear grandfather die due to the effects of Tobaco.

And while I can not say that the instance i give and that are exclusive from eachother I have to say

The number of whiney third year [9th year in your instnace?, there around 14/15] beayches who smoke in my school is large. They also happen to be neds (Non Educated Delicuiants) who will probably sell the Big Issue or Flip Burgers in McDonalds in the future so I'm not exactly against them dying a slow painful death.

[EinBebop]

I dislike smoking, but I hate saying the tobacco companies and their employees harrassed. It only makes me more sympathetic for the people being harrassed.

And 'truth'? Propaganda is not the way to go, because once young people realize that drugs aren't as bad as these commercials make it out to be, then everything they've ever heard about drugs comes into doubt.

[Eddie G.]

So, then, I assume you think McDonald's and Burger King are evil too?Actually you assume that I won't, that's why you asked. Either way I do see McDonald's as evil.

Their products kill a lot of people. But, you know, I think they should be allowed to make a product that kills people if that's what people want. I mean, fast food places have tried to make healthy products before, McDonald's tried a McLean Deluxe over a decade ago. Burger King had a Veggie Burger a few years ago. Actually, one of the healthiest sandwiches at McDonald's is probably the Grilled Chicken, but, I remember when I worked there almost no one ordered it. Everyone wanted to eat the Big Macs and Double Quarter Pounders.The Burger King veggie burgers aren't worth mentioning. They're the most disgusting veggie burger ever created

[tucsoncoyote]

I don't really care if everyone else smokes. it's their lungs they destorying not mine. I don't smoke cause the smell bothers me and I know its bad for me.Well what if you live in a house where someone does smoke? I never have smoked, never plan to but I lived in a house where my father did 3 packs of Cigarettes (or more ) a day..(that's 60+ cigarettes a day) for 17 years..

and now what aobut me? Well I'm not dying from Cancer but rather suffering from Bronchitis and Adult asthma..(All because someone says "Oh they're Ruining thier lungs.. Doesn't realize.. when you live with smoker, there is such a thing as 2nd hand smoke, and it does kill, but even more slowly then if you were smoking. )

So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

:coyote:

[Dark Fact]

The Burger King veggie burgers aren't worth mentioning. They're the most disgusting veggie burger ever created

Did they put ground up cauliflower and parsely in there? :p

[guinaevere]

The Burger King veggie burgers aren't worth mentioning. They're the most disgusting veggie burger ever createdI kinda like 'em.

Anyway. I think part of the Truth/anti-smoking ads are aimed at keeping non-smokers from ever starting. I remember seeing one ad (don't know if it was truth or one of the required philip-morris PSAs), showing some horrific GUNK that some doctor was squeezing out of a heart valve thingy of a dead smoker. It was absolutely disgusting, and for weeks after, I had trouble getting over that image.

My problem with smoking is that it's legal, and the consequences for doing so are known and documented, and lead toward higher and higher medical fees and insurance fees for everyone. But, it will never be made illegal, because there are WAAAAAY too many tax dollars that the government depends on.

I know the rules. I'm not starting a political discussion here. I just can't think of smoking & cigarette companies without a political association.

[TimTwoFace]

I agree that these commercials are boring and hold very little entertainment value for me - but that's easy for me to say because they're preaching to the converted. The commercials are aiming at the people unfortunate enough to be smoking, not the ones that have been able to stay away or quit already.

As lame and "after-school-special" as they are, they still are effective nonetheless. That's the bottom line, and if that's the case, they aren't going away.

-Tim