AdultSwim.com Message Board Q & A on January 20 [Archive]

Maestro

01-07-2005, 07:42 PM

New announcement by SwimBuddha, which reads as follows:

Hey! Hey! Hey! Please join Kim Manning, Nick Weidenfeld and myself on Thursday night, Jan. 20, from 9-10 p.m. EST for a first-ever message board Q & A. It's the start of a new year, after all. And perhaps you wonder what all is going on and coming up, right? We'll let you know!

A general guide...

Kim will answer stuff about scheduling and licensed shows and anime.

Nick will answer stuff about new shows in development and the '05 slate of new. (What Nick cannot do is take pitches in this venue, so don't do that. He can, however, tell you how to pitch correctly.)

I will answer stuff about teh website.

Looking forward to it. Please join us.

See you there.

Beat

01-07-2005, 08:01 PM

These are always good for a laugh. Any questions that need to be asked?

I've been meaning to inquire about whether or not WS plays favorites in anime genres.

JeffTMBG

01-07-2005, 08:07 PM

Any questions that need to be asked?
On Super Milk Chan: What the Hell were you thinking?

Discloner

01-07-2005, 11:08 PM

How much do you want to bet they won't really tell us the answers to the questions we really want to know, I.E. Will there be new Venture Brothers?

We're too close to CN's 'upfront' month, surely they'll be keeping some information to release then.

Nik Jam

01-08-2005, 12:24 AM

and Case Closed..

livingfruitvirus

01-08-2005, 12:30 AM

and Case Closed..Kim already said there are no plans to renew.

The Wolverine

01-08-2005, 12:35 AM

Kim already said there are no plans to renew.

Then Funimation is wasting precious time dubbing episodes.

Tienshin

01-08-2005, 12:38 AM

I predict they will play things close to vest and give is more informatioin on things we already know about: Seth Green's Show, maybe explain what 12oz Mouse is, some additional info on Perfect Hair Forever, update on Squidbillies (unlikely), maybe some more info on the summer anime acquisition they are looking to make, etc. There is definitely alot to talk about.

However, I wouldnt be surprised if they finally announced Venture Bros fate, well, that is if they have decided to renew it for a second season. I wouldn't hold my breath on Case Closed...I think its almost certain that won't be getting new episodes.

But like Discloner said, they are a few months away from the upfronts as well as summer cons so I'm not banking on a lot of jaw dropping annoucements. But I'm willing to bet they have several nuggets they want to put out there.

livingfruitvirus

01-08-2005, 12:42 AM

Then Funimation is wasting precious time dubbing episodes.How come? 95% of anime out there isn't on TV and it gets dubbed.

The Wolverine

01-08-2005, 03:33 PM

How come? 95% of anime out there isn't on TV and it gets dubbed.

Case Closed got too high of ratings to not be shown again.

Beat

01-08-2005, 03:48 PM

Not really. Ratings were low, which is why this is happening.

My next question for them.

Can you cancel Tom Goes to the Mayor and Sealab 2021 forever? Please? Pretty-please?:)

KnightusMaximus

01-08-2005, 04:57 PM

Tienshin

01-08-2005, 05:19 PM

Even if Case Closed got in the 300'sK ratings as Duke recalls being stated on the ASMB, I don't think that qualifies as "low", persay. Inuyasha was stuck at around 300K on Saturdays for its last couple months before Fullmetal Alchemist took over. Case Closed made some great accomplishments, occasionally making the Top 30 12-17 despite being aired at 1AMEST.. if only Cartoon Network was willing to look outside 18-34 I think it could have a very bright future.

Comparing Saturday ratings to weekeday ratings is not an apples to apples comparison. 300K on a weekeday is steady if not mediocre, but nothing spectacular.

AS has no impetus to look into the 12-17 demo, its not where they make their money in terms of advertisers. In fact that entire demo has been mostly ignored by CN as a whole. If CC can't hold its own within the target age range then it shouldn't be on the air.

KnightusMaximus

01-08-2005, 05:24 PM

I am not trying to imply that [adult swim] look at 12-17 ratings.. and I am aware that the demographic is ignored by Cartoon Network.. I was just speaking from a hypothetical, in-a-perfect-world kindof viewpoint. At least it could probably have a better future if it gets to Canada.

Artimus Gigan

01-08-2005, 06:51 PM

Just spend the few thousand to buy all of the CC DVDs as they are released...there you can watch CC whenever you want and you don't need the ratings...

.Also I have a question:

Is perfect hair forever getting a full fleged series and if so, are you going to air the inital episode again?

Also when will the DVD be out?

Zyzzybalubah

01-09-2005, 01:41 AM

What's the process in deciding to pick up an anime title? Is there anyway possible that Adult Swim will acquire original action programming (I know that Big O II was somewhat of a CN original, but I'm thinking a completely original show whether it's American or Japanese.) Also, I would like to hear how pitch a pilot.

Pepperidge

01-09-2005, 01:45 AM

I'd like to ask "Have you ever considered changing ASA into a 12-24 block so you can stop ignoring the majority of your audience?"

I am not trying to imply that [adult swim] look at 12-17 ratings.. and I am aware that the demographic is ignored by Cartoon Network.. I was just speaking from a hypothetical, in-a-perfect-world kindof viewpoint. At least it could probably have a better future if it gets to Canada. Yeah, YTV would probably air it before 10pm and target it towards the right audience. However, I think we should be more concerned with pestering Lance about FUNi getting FMA and Fruits Basket on the air.

livingfruitvirus

01-09-2005, 01:46 AM

I'd like to ask "Have you ever considered changing ASA into a 12-24 block so you can stop ignoring the majority of your audience?"
15% is no majority.

herbkir

01-10-2005, 02:26 PM

I'd ask whether AS has acquired the remaining 63 episodes of the Inuyasha TV series (which has some of the best stuff in the entire story), and when they'll be showing the first 2 movies. (^_*)

Swordfish_II

01-20-2005, 06:35 PM

Looks like they've begun taking questions.

http://boards.adultswim.com/adultswim/board?board.id=AdultSwimQA (http://boards.adultswim.com/adultswim/board?board.id=AdultSwimQA)

James Bester

01-20-2005, 07:00 PM

I wanna know about what they're planning to do with ATHF. Do you ask Kim about the comedy shows as well as anime?

Master Moron

01-20-2005, 07:28 PM

How come? 95% of anime out there isn't on TV and it gets dubbed.

Yeah, but how many of those are 300+ episodes? I can't think of too many series that long that have been DVD only releases. Maybe one of the Rumiko Takahashi series.

KnightusMaximus

01-20-2005, 09:05 PM

Kim Manning goes first:

..now is a good time to announce two new acquisitions for 2005. We've picked up Samurai Champloo and Paranoia Agent, and they'll both start this Summer.

-Kim

bluedeucedodge

01-20-2005, 09:11 PM

HELL YEAH!!! I have just picked up Samurai Champloo, and I must say, that [as] viewers are in for a BIG treat. Damn I can't wait for the summer now.

Youko Recca

01-20-2005, 09:19 PM

........Paranoia Agent.....and Samurai Champloo.......hells yeahs. 2005 already looks killer.

Captain Harlock

01-20-2005, 09:20 PM

Double thumbs up for Adult Swim anime.

Paranoia Agent is grrreat. Samurai Champloo ain't so bad either.

livingfruitvirus

01-20-2005, 09:21 PM

as far as the venture bros. we absolutely considering a second season. but it's up to you guys. you have to watch it. we're going to air it for the next three sundays at 11pm. so there, it's in your court.
I still think they've already made up their minds and just can't say until the end of February, and decide to tease us while we wait.

bluedeucedodge

01-20-2005, 09:24 PM

Yeah I think so too. It would be a terrible business move to place the burden of whether or not you are going to renew a show on 4 episodes. I think that they have made their minds up, but are toying with us.

Discloner

01-20-2005, 09:28 PM

I still think they've already made up their minds and just can't say until the end of February, and decide to tease us while we wait.I think that's the case as well...which sucks for us in the meantime if true. However, if you think about it...doing such really gets the fans 'noisy' and essentially gets word about the show out. So I suppose it's all good in the meantime.

Arxane

01-20-2005, 09:32 PM

Kim Manning goes first:

..now is a good time to announce two new acquisitions for 2005. We've picked up Samurai Champloo and Paranoia Agent, and they'll both start this Summer.

-Kim First reaction: OMGWTFBBQ!!111

Second reaction: ****in' A!

Third reaction: I can't wait for this summer.

Fourth reaction: Now Hyper Sensei doesn't have to worry anymore about the slim chance of Samurai Champloo going to G4.

Fifth reaction: The final nail in the "Geneon hates CN after the failure of Lupin" coffin.

KnightusMaximus

01-20-2005, 09:39 PM

"Case Closed will be back, there's just not room for it on the schedule right now.

Trigun will also be back, we're planning to resurrect it in March, Mon - Wed.

new shows: you can check out the announcements folder which has some info. we also have lots of new shows in development that will hopefully have pilots by the end of the year. the only pilot that's currently being produced and will hopefully be done really soon (summer?) is loren bouchard's lucy: daughter of the devil. he's the guy behind home movies and is working with other home movies guys and it's funny. seriously.

squidbillies is still in development. hahahaha."

-SwimBuddha

livingfruitvirus

01-20-2005, 09:51 PM

If anyone hasn't noticed:

http://www.adultswim.com/webcam/index.html

I'm an InuYasha fan myself, and we've just acquired through episode 167, so NO! We definitely don't hate you.

livingfruitvirus

01-21-2005, 10:44 PM

theyre still answering questions guyz

Schism

01-23-2005, 04:00 AM

I think it's wonderful that they picked up Paranoia Agent.

You think Big O is a mind****? You haven't seen anything yet.

Champloo, well...it's stylistic. It's awesome. It's one of the best Anime I've seen ever. The next Bebop, I'd gather.

Though I have no idea how people will react to Paranoia Agent. It's absolutely wonderous, but it's such a mind**** that people will scratch their heads and hate it with a passion.

Pepperidge

01-23-2005, 04:33 AM

Can someone ask if Teletoon has any plans to pick up any more episodes of ATHF? The wait has been excruciating.

Discloner

01-23-2005, 04:44 AM

They closed the question thread Thursday evening. :sad:

Spastic Minnow

01-24-2005, 04:00 PM

"Case Closed will be back, there's just not room for it on the schedule right now.
-SwimBuddha
But later from "Kimma"

"The decision not to pick up more Case Closed episodes was based on ratings - but we have 50 episodes, and we'll continue to air them from time to time."

So does that mean the first comment was meant to only refer to the old Case Closed coming back and no new stuff? That's what I'm thinking.

livingfruitvirus

01-25-2005, 10:09 PM

^^^^ yes. i think she meant old episodes.

BTW, she's still answering questions. one i particularly find interesting -

Also, I know the movies are great, but we're having a problem with movies in general - people aren't watching them! We've picked up some great anime movies for 2005, and we'll experiment with them, see if we can get ratings. If they work, maybe we can pick up some Lupin movies. Right now, though it seems that our viewers don't like long-form stuff as much as quarter hours and half hours...
and

We'll have a break with Fullmetal Alchemist and Ghost in the Shell premieres over the summer, because the 2nd season episodes are still being dubbed. This summer Champloo and Paranoia Agent will just fill in on Saturdays where Ghost and Fullmetal were, and then when they're through, Ghost and Fullmetal will come back in the Fall. Comedy will stay at 11 on Saturdays for now, but we are moving action earlier - to 11:30 - starting in February.

Beat

01-25-2005, 11:02 PM

Also, I know the movies are great, but we're having a problem with movies in general - people aren't watching them! We've picked up some great anime movies for 2005, and we'll experiment with them, see if we can get ratings. If they work, maybe we can pick up some Lupin movies. Right now, though it seems that our viewers don't like long-form stuff as much as quarter hours and half hours...

That might have to do with the fact that people don't want to stay up till 2am to watch a movie. Maybe if they started earlier, or got a dedicated night.

RedTail

01-26-2005, 12:42 PM

Here's hoping for Cagliostro in the future!

livingfruitvirus

01-27-2005, 09:16 PM

Kim Manning sez to stay tuned for 2 more anime acquisition announcements soon.

William C. Maune

01-27-2005, 09:20 PM

That might have to do with the fact that people don't want to stay up till 2am to watch a movie. Maybe if they started earlier, or got a dedicated night.

I bet that does have a lot to do with it. At least since they do have the movies that format will be getting more shots. With FMA moving up to 11:30 in February, perhaps movies will also move up half an hour when they air. That would be a great way to test the late end theory as movies would end at least a little earlier generally.

Beat

01-27-2005, 09:41 PM

Kim Manning sez to stay tuned for 2 more anime acquisition announcements soon.
Besides Champloo and Paranoia Agent?

Let the speculation begin...

Swordfish_II

01-27-2005, 09:44 PM

I bet that does have a lot to do with it.
That's part of the reason I think Metropolis was moved back. They had it scheduled at midnight, but the runtime for the movie is an hour and fifty minutes.

livingfruitvirus

01-27-2005, 09:46 PM

That might have to do with the fact that people don't want to stay up till 2am to watch a movie. Maybe if they started earlier, or got a dedicated night.
They aired ROD and the Animatrix in October at midnight. When Animatrix premiered though it was on at 11 PM, and over winter break ROD was on at 11 PM with Animatrix at 1, and then another ROD encore.

William C. Maune

01-27-2005, 10:14 PM

and over winter break ROD was on at 11 PM with Animatrix at 1, and then another ROD encore.

However, that was on Christmas and thus it can't really be used for any kind of meaningful comparison due to erratic viewing habits on the holiday.

Sketch

01-27-2005, 10:23 PM

Kim Manning sez to stay tuned for 2 more anime acquisition announcements soon.
Well two Geneon titles and one Bandai title have alreadly been annouced for 2005 on top of more Inuyasha from Viz. So I'm thinking ADV and FUNi will pass along 1 more anime each.

FUNi's would probably either be Baki or Burst Angel. Their other titles don't seem too likely for Adult Swim.

ADV has a slew of titles they could give Adult Swim and who knows maybe that EVA revamp could air (better dub and better visuals make all the difference). But I'm not holding my breath on that one. I'd sooner expect something lighter like GetBackers or Chrno Crusaide. But if they want to go with the comedy approach again... Glavin at AI thinks Cromanite High is a likely possibility.

Quincy Archer

01-27-2005, 10:38 PM

Kim Manning sez to stay tuned for 2 more anime acquisition announcements soon.

Zeta Gundam !!! and Gantz I know I know What I thinking but a guy can dream cant I?

And HS what about GSG? and Samurai 7 that AS material. I say if ADV is gonna give them something then Saiyuki and maybe Excell Saga but Oh no wait What if it is Initail D there ad did say on tv May 05

Arxane

01-27-2005, 10:45 PM

ADV has a slew of titles they could give Adult Swim and who knows maybe that EVA revamp could air (better dub and better visuals make all the difference). The re-released Eva DVDs have the same crappy dub as they did in their original release; it's just been remastered into 5.1 audio.

But I agree, Funi and ADV do look like the most obvious candidates at the moment. If I had to guess, I'd go for Funi's Samurai 7, and ADV has a bucketload of titles just begging to be on AS. As long as it's not another Milk-Chan...

Oh no wait What if it is Initail D there ad did say on tv May 05
Dear God, I hope not...

KuwabaraTheMan

01-27-2005, 10:49 PM

Don't they have a new voice for Gendo?

I haven't seem them, but I remember hearing that.

Arxane

01-27-2005, 10:52 PM

Don't they have a new voice for Gendo?

I haven't seem them, but I remember hearing that.
Before ADV started releasing the Platinum Edition of Eva, they re-released a couple discs containing episode 21-26 with new footage never before seen, billing them as the Director's Cut version of these episodes. Because they contained new footage, a new dub had to be done for these episodes. That's where the new voices for certain chracters came in.

Swordfish_II

01-27-2005, 10:57 PM

Everyone remember that "purely speculative" poll from the ASMB a few months ago?

Gungrave
Samurai Champloo
Paranoia Agent
Peace Maker Kurogane AS did get 2 out of 4, and G4 has one of them...

livingfruitvirus

01-27-2005, 11:01 PM

Before ADV started releasing the Platinum Edition of Eva, they re-released a couple discs containing episode 21-26 with new footage never before seen, billing them as the Director's Cut version of these episodes. Because they contained new footage, a new dub had to be done for these episodes. That's where the new voices for certain chracters came in.I'll bet they release a WMV-HD version next. Because apparently we can't have enough Evangelion releases.

Everyone remember that "purely speculative" poll from the ASMB a few months ago?

AS did get 2 out of 4, and G4 has one of them...
Hope not Kurogane. We'll have a good samurai show at the time. No need for a crappy one.

Beat

01-27-2005, 11:07 PM

Everyone remember that "purely speculative" poll from the ASMB a few months ago?

AS did get 2 out of 4, and G4 has one of them...
Aww, Kurogane? *Mopes* It's on Anime Network, and compared to the other samurai show they have, is serverly lacking.

Lachesis

01-28-2005, 12:33 AM

I liked Kurogane. :p It's a cute show, but probably Toonami material - aside from the violent parts, of course.

Sketch

01-28-2005, 01:31 AM

Ah yes... Samurai 7. That's entirely a possiblity. But it wouldn't be in the running until at least Fall I'm sure. GSG isn't too likely... pretty otakuish isn't it? But hey we did get Wolf's Rain, WHR and Kikaider. But still... I think FUNi will surely offer it but CN wont bite. They probably wont bite on Burst Angel either. Kiddy Grade's a better show isn't it? Baki is a fighting anime... Something Adult Swim currently lacks... it might be a good choice.

Saiyuki would be fun and with Geneon working with CN again we could get all of the seasons and not just ADV's only season (and movie). But I think the general thoughts on it were... keep it away from AS lest we have another Inuyasha on our hands.

Can I say how much it would OWN if ADV let CN have New Fist of the North Star. I haven't watched much of it though but I did like some of the original series (which is clearly too dated now and on Encore Action anyway).

Chrno Crusaide would probably be best out of all of ADV's current titles since the girls dig those teen animes and Chrno is a sure bet with that audience (the Inuyasha and FMA loving audience). And there is of course plenty of male appeal as well. But dub is a little hard on the ears at times though... Greg Ayres AND Hillary Hagg... Oye... high pitched scream fest.

GetBackers would be fun but it's really really tame compared to the manga and not really "worthy" of Adult Swim because of this.

Spastic Minnow

01-28-2005, 12:19 PM

They aired ROD and the Animatrix in October at midnight. When Animatrix premiered though it was on at 11 PM, and over winter break ROD was on at 11 PM with Animatrix at 1, and then another ROD encore.
In the case of ROD, they have another option to test out the bad reception to movies theory. If I understand it right ROD is actually a 4 episode OVA series that AS combined into a "movie." So try breaking it back up into it's 4 episodes, run it a couple times, see if people watch it that way.

herbkir

01-28-2005, 01:04 PM

Kim Manning on the AS boards did say they are considering a trial with breaking up OVA/ movies into half-hour segments to see if they fare better with viewers. (^_*)

Matt Hazuda

01-28-2005, 04:30 PM

Zeta Gundam !!!We want more viewers tuning in to AS, not driving them away en masse :cool:

Beat

01-28-2005, 04:52 PM

We want more viewers tuning in to AS, not driving them away en masse :cool:
Enough $200 boxsets to fill the Grand Canyon says otherwise.:p

Seriously though, I really, really, really doubt it would be Zeta at this point in time. If Adult Swim airs any Gundam show, it will be Victory.

That doesn't mean other Tomino made shows can't air. Overman King Gainer anyone?

ShadowS

01-28-2005, 05:57 PM

In the case of ROD, they have another option to test out the bad reception to movies theory. If I understand it right ROD is actually a 4 episode OVA series that AS combined into a "movie." So try breaking it back up into it's 4 episodes, run it a couple times, see if people watch it that way.ROD is actually 3 episodes and it's been shown twice already, AS should at least wait a little bit before rerunning it. Also I think breaking up movies and showing them over a couple of weeks is a bad idea, because not many people would want to watch a movie after not seeing the first half of it because they didn't know it was on.

William C. Maune

01-28-2005, 06:30 PM

Also I think breaking up movies and showing them over a couple of weeks is a bad idea, because not many people would want to watch a movie after not seeing the first half of it because they didn't know it was on.

I don't think it would be that much different from many of the other shows the network has aired which rely heavily on continuity from one episode to the next, each episode picking up immediately where the previous left off.