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Samurai
12-30-2004, 06:12 AM
You know what, I lot of people say death is bad, but if you look at it from an evolution standpoint, it's kinda of a good thing: death keeps the population down!

If no one ever died, this world would be overfilled with too many people. We'd have to go find some other planet to live on.

Also, I don't want to go all Captain Planet, but at the current rate people are using up the Earth's resources, it's been estimated that the Earth can only sustain a reasonable population of 10-12 billion people. Currently, the Earth is at 6 billion, but the world's population will reach 10-12 billion sometime in the next 50-75 years (which is kinda scary if you think about it).

So perhaps the reason for diseases and wars and accidents and murder, in the grand scheme of things, is evolution's way of simply keeping our population down. Which is kind of cold if you think about it. I mean, for people who have diseases or get murdered or die in wars or accidents, it's sad since their life was cut short. But I think it's just a roll of the dice. Some people are unlucky and get a disease or die from an accident, and some people are lucky and die the old-fashioned way from old-age.

Heck, who knows, you or I maybe the unlucky one that goes down in a plane crash or gets shot or didn't look one way before crossing the street (so before that happens, do everything you want to do in your life!) :p

But bottom line, if there were no wars, no accidents, no diseases, no murder, just people being born, the Earth couldn't handle everyone.

But, in a strange and ironic way, the population problem could just be solved if people would simply stop having so much sex and spitting out so many damn kids. But no, people want their fun (etc, etc, etc), and before you know it, outcrawls little Johnny.

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Condiment King
12-30-2004, 06:26 AM
It is tremendously easy to look at a people as a whole with less revelancy than a single person, no matter how ironic that is.

Fone Bone
12-30-2004, 07:35 AM
You know what, I lot of people say death is bad, but if you look at it from an evolution standpoint, it's kinda of a good thing: death keeps the population down!

If no one ever died, this world would be overfilled with too many people. We'd have to go find some other planet to live on.

Also, I don't want to go all Captain Planet, but at the current rate people are using up the Earth's resources, it's been estimated that the Earth can only sustain a reasonable population of 10-12 billion people. Currently, the Earth is at 6 billion, but the world's population will reach 10-12 billion sometime in the next 50-75 years (which is kinda scary if you think about it).

So perhaps the reason for diseases and wars and accidents and murder, in the grand scheme of things, is evolution's way of simply keeping our population down. Which is kind of cold if you think about it. I mean, for people who have diseases or get murdered or die in wars or accidents, it's sad since their life was cut short. But I think it's just a roll of the dice. Some people are unlucky and get a disease or die from an accident, and some people are lucky and die the old-fashioned way from old-age.

Heck, who knows, you or I maybe the unlucky one that goes down in a plane crash or gets shot or didn't look one way before crossing the street (so before that happens, do everything you want to do in your life!) :p

But bottom line, if there were no wars, no accidents, no diseases, no murder, just people being born, the Earth couldn't handle everyone.

But, in a strange and ironic way, the population problem could just be solved if people would simply stop having so much sex and spitting out so many damn kids. But no, people want their fun and so men can't keep the **** in their pants and women can't cover up their own **** and before you know it, outcrawls little Johnny.

So maybe all the bad crap that happens to human beings is evolution's way of simply saying **** you and your little John!Here's the problem with cutting down on sex. The average person won't want to do it and the average Bible thumper won't want safe sex taught in schools. But yes, it IS a population issue and not just a moral one. (Although there are shades of that in it too).

Phantasm
12-30-2004, 07:43 AM
read 'Thanatopsis'by William Cullen Bryant.It talks about all this but with a transendental view.

Hey_yu
12-30-2004, 08:15 AM
You know, I read that 99% of all life on this planet has gone existinct since the Earth first began. In some ways, it's simple Darwinianism: the strong survive and inherit the Earth.

As human beings, we are the most intelligent of all the races. But, it's also a constant struggle against nature and ourselves. I mean, we depend on nature to survive. Nature provides us with the animals and plants and materials and water. But nature can also hurt us with diseases and natural disasters (like the Tsunami incident). And as human beings, it's in our nature to both help and hurt each other.

So in the end, I guess you could say death is the one true equalizer since it happens to everyone; from Lincoln to Hitler to that homeless guy on the street. It's just the journey to death that is different for everyone. All I know is I just want to have led a fun life (although not just sex :p) before I bite the big one and am nothing more than atoms and dust in the ground.

Psycho Fox
12-30-2004, 11:04 AM
Here's the problem with cutting down on sex. The average person won't want to do it and the average Bible thumper won't want safe sex taught in schools. But yes, it IS a population issue and not just a moral one. (Although there are shades of that in it too).
The problem is not really sexual activites but having sexual activities with high risk of impregnation. The pill + condom lowers the risk greatly also you can have a lot of other sexual fun (foreplay/oral sex) that is fun on its own :cool:

Master Moron
12-30-2004, 03:48 PM
You know what really pisses me off, is when you see a family on TV that has like 10 kids and then the whole audience claps. Why the hell are they clapping? Those parents should be put in jail for negligently contributing to the population problem.

Terminatah
12-30-2004, 04:55 PM
Another reason why death is good is that it motivates people to do things while they are still alive. If we were all immortal, "I'll do it tomorrow" might easily be "I'll do it 100 years from now."

-Terminatah

Fone Bone
12-30-2004, 07:56 PM
The problem is not really sexual activites but having sexual activities with high risk of impregnation. The pill + condom lowers the risk greatly also you can have a lot of other sexual fun (foreplay/oral sex) that is fun on its own :cool:I agree with you about the foreplay but oral sex is just nasty.

YOUR MOUTH DOES NOT BELONG THERE!

:sweat:

Speedy Boris
12-30-2004, 08:13 PM
You know they say that there's already a cure for cancer and AIDS, and the only reason why the cures aren't released to the public is because the number of deaths would hit rock bottom and we'd get too overpopulated. Population control, my friend. Sorta like cigarettes.

You know what really pisses me off, is when you see a family on TV that has like 10 kids and then the whole audience claps. Why the hell are they clapping? Those parents should be put in jail for negligently contributing to the population problem. Quote of the week. Though to play devil's advocate (though I generally agree with you), we wouldn't want to turn into another China and ration how many kids a couple can have. Not like it stops people from doing it behind the government's back, though. ;)

Swordfish_II
12-30-2004, 08:27 PM
You know what really pisses me off, is when you see a family on TV that has like 10 kids and then the whole audience claps. Why the hell are they clapping? Those parents should be put in jail for negligently contributing to the population problem.I saw this show on Discovery Channel or TLC about this family that had 14 kids with another on the way.

*cough* Granted, I seem to recall they were some of those overly religious people who probably think a condom is the tool of Satan or something... :shrug:

I agree with you about the foreplay but oral sex is just nasty.
YOUR MOUTH DOES NOT BELONG THERE!If you think about it, your genitals are probably a lot cleaner than your mouth. :ack:

Fone Bone
12-30-2004, 08:39 PM
If you think about it, your genitals are probably a lot cleaner than your mouth. :ack:I refuse to think about it.

YOUR MOUTH DOES NOT BELONG THERE!

:D

Edit: Another good point: GENITALS DON'T HAVE TASTE BUDS.

Jarmyn
12-30-2004, 09:08 PM
If death is such a good thing than sould we have more people kill each other?

Swordfish_II
12-30-2004, 09:13 PM
If death is such a good thing than sould we have more people kill each other?We should legalize dueling.

Or better yet, reinstate the gladitoral fights. And turn it into a reality show!

Samurai
12-30-2004, 10:01 PM
Though to play devil's advocate (though I generally agree with you), we wouldn't want to turn into another China and ration how many kids a couple can have. Not like it stops people from doing it behind the government's back, though. ;)But if you knew the situation in China, you'd know why they instituted the policy. If they didn't, China would be catastrophically overpopulated right now. India is facing the same crisis, and they've tried to institute various ways of population control, but none with as great success (although they're trying).

Plus, America is the third most populated country, and although it doesn't face the same crisis as China and India, it might someday. The US has almost 300 million people, a far cry from the billion+ of China and India, but America's population will increase to 500 million in the next 50 years (interestingly, a lot of it is due to immigration... minorities, particularly Asians and Latino's, will make up more than 50% of the total population, meaning minorities will become the majority in America).

We should legalize dueling.Hey, if 2 people hate each other enough that they're willing to participate in a legalized duel to the end, I'm not going to stop them.

Speedy Boris
12-30-2004, 10:11 PM
But if you knew the situation in China, you'd know why they instituted the policy. If they didn't, China would be catastrophically overpopulated right now. India is facing the same crisis, and they've tried to institute various ways of population control, but none with as great success (although they're trying). Yes, I'm well-aware of the reason China instituted the policy- a realization that the "have as many kids as possible to build our national defense in the '50s" had a big downside. You're preaching to the choir here. Or better yet, reinstate the gladitoral fights. And turn it into a reality show! I'd go to watch. In fact, I'd bring friends. ;)

Samurai
12-30-2004, 10:19 PM
Yes, I'm well-aware of the reason China instituted the policy- a realization that the "have as many kids as possible to build our national defense in the '50s" had a big downside. You're preaching to the choir here.Well, China was already facing population problems before the 50's. So having more kids just made it worse. Europe and Japan right now are actually facing a birth decline, and actually trying to encourage more people to have kids. But the population is still increasing in Europe and Japan despite the birth decline, so I'm not sure if having more kids is a good thing. Hell, I should just quit my job and go work for the population center :p

Boomhauer
12-30-2004, 10:25 PM
One known fact is that nothing leaves earth. Earth recycles life- plants, fruits, insects, animals, human, water, gases and all other elements. Everything's got life, even metal and GOLD.

I kind of agree with you on the population keeping it's balance on a medium. However it's the time we're in. Technology has gone too far- We these years have developed creations that destroys ourselves- powerful motorvehicles or sportscars that can top 260 mph, planes that can fly thousands of feet in the sky, mass destructive weapons and more activities in our minds. Back in the Old Stone Age, there was no such thing as cars, planes, fire torches, radios. No such creations that was self-destructive.


When I mentioned "more activities in our minds", I'm saying we get bored fast. We seek for more and more to satifisfy and better our needs and it never ends. This is where most people want to get greedy and things move too fast. Sometimes if you try to beat time, time will beat you.

Death isn't a good thing because none of us have been through it to tell.

Samurai
12-30-2004, 10:34 PM
I kind of agree with you on the population keeping it's balance on a medium. However it's the time we're in. Technology has gone too far- We these years have developed creations that destroys ourselves- powerful motorvehicles or sportscars that can top 260 mph, planes that can fly thousands of feet in the sky, mass destructive weapons and more activities in our minds. Back in the Old Stone Age, there was no such thing as cars, planes, fire torches, radios. No such creations that was self-destructive.The thing is, I think the human race is moving to a point where we can kind of control death. Scientists and biochemists have always been trying to find a way to increase our lifespan, and while nothing has worked so far, I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a way so people can live to the age of 200 or something. It may or may not happen in our lifetimes, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened eventually like in the year 2100 or something as one of the major breakthroughs in science. Then, mankind's life will be fundamentally altered since we can control death from old age (although human beings can still die from a gunshot... but who knows, they might even find a cure for that).

Psycho Fox
12-30-2004, 11:28 PM
I refuse to think about it.

YOUR MOUTH DOES NOT BELONG THERE!

:D

Edit: Another good point: GENITALS DON'T HAVE TASTE BUDS.

Well why do you think they have flavored condoms (yet it is a bit tricky when it comes protection when your giving oral to the vulva). There is also having a shower first or doing it in the shower :cool:

Artimus Gigan
12-31-2004, 01:47 AM
I thought this is why NASA bought the planet mars from the space indians


so we move there from earth and have reproductive sex on that planet instead

EightOh
12-31-2004, 03:59 AM
Technology has gone too far-It's too bad this isn't some sort of sci-fi movie, or I'd be freaking out right about now.

Alex Toon
12-31-2004, 12:18 PM
We should legalize dueling.Hery, I never knew Zell Miller was on this board! :p

And if the world becomes overpopulated, Soylent Green will become a reality.

Master Moron
12-31-2004, 01:39 PM
I agree with you about the foreplay but oral sex is just nasty.

YOUR MOUTH DOES NOT BELONG THERE!

:sweat:

monkeys have oral sex. If it happens in nature than it's all good...well...monkeys also fling feces at each other...

Master Moron
12-31-2004, 01:41 PM
Well why do you think they have flavored condoms (yet it is a bit tricky when it comes protection when your giving oral to the vulva). There is also having a shower first or doing it in the shower :cool:

You know...some people like the taste...

Singin' Stray Cat
12-31-2004, 02:08 PM
Okay, look. The talk here's getting out of hand, at least it is to me.