C&C - Anything Else/Cards [12/25 - 12/30]

[The Landstander]

Merry repeats!

[Artimus Gigan]

And here I was looking forward to a new episode of FMA and an episode I already own of GITS...

[livingfruitvirus]

Anyone else noticed The Animatrix is being presented with different commercial breaks?

Also that the shorts have been rearranged? Osiris is at the end, Renaissance is at the front, Kid's Story is before Beyond, Detective Story is before Matriculated.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

AS will have American Dad in February?? :eek: also what is Robot Chicken? :confused: and I noticed Stroker & Hoop in for July but what were the other things? I didn't scribble fast enough!

[livingfruitvirus]

What the crap is 12 oz. Mouse?

[Scirel]

Perfect Hair Forever is becoming a real show?

W...T...F... WS, did I do something wrong? Something to hurt you in the past? If I did, I`m sorry. Just please don`t do this..

[TylerL]

http://www.toonamiarsenal.com/misc/lf/as2005.gif

[Rabi~en~Rose]

new Sealab?? NOOOOOOOO

no new VB? :eek: NOOOOOOO NOOO NOOOOOO!!!

[Chad Bonin]

Robot Chicken- Isn't that Seth Green's thing?

American Dad- Thought it was going to Fox first.

Tom Goes To The Mayor- Second season, or just unaired episodes from this batch?

Sealab 2021- Yay, it ain't dead yet.

Family Guy- Um... Fox'll air it in Spring?

Birdman- He'll take the case!

Stroker and Hoop- Please improve on the pilot kthbye

Perfect Hair Forever- This is a joke, right?

12oz Mouse- ... anything like Inch-High Private Eye?

Squidbillies- Umm...

ATHF- Yay.

Boondocks- Please, do not bring your political agendas to AS.

[Scirel]

Why..Why couldn`t they have made that thign with Space ghost and the other WS guys a real show. At least there is no new SMC, but it looks like they`re repalcing it with a show even less funny.(if that is even possible)

American dad, new birdman, and new ATHF is a good thing, and of course I`ll give the other new shows a chance, but PHF...it`s like finding a fly in your soup. Ruins the whole thing.

[Artimus Gigan]

I think VB season 2 is still in the planning phases IIRC

that's why it's not on the list

[Anime Freak]

*wonders if they're going to say anything about action shows in 2005*

[Youko Recca]

*wonders if they're going to say anything about action shows in 2005*
Are you pregnant?



Hmmm, this is interesting. 12oz Mouse has me interested. Hoping overall that this is just a roughdraft including what they are sure of so far. Venture Bros. must come.

[bluedeucedodge]

Perfect Hair Forever- This is a joke, right?

With the Squidbillies prank, I wouldn't be surprised it they screw with us once again.

[Anime Freak]

With the Squidbillies prank, I wouldn't be surprised it they screw with us once again.

They probably are serious...did u see how much of a good response it got on the AS boards? And it didn't do too bad in ratings did it?

[Mugen]

Robot Chicken- Isn't that Seth Green's thing?

American Dad- Thought it was going to Fox first.


Robot Chicken is Seth Green's project and American Dad is suppose to premiere on Super Bowl day, February 6th.

[shoujoaifan]

"PAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-PER!"

God if he exists, how I love that line so :p

Cool, some of those shows look good. BTW, American Dad will premiere first on FOX in January, right?

[livingfruitvirus]

I hadn't heard anything about Perfect Hair as a series (I should know). I wouldn't be surprised if it's just another short.

[Pepperidge]

No new Venture? Oh well, maybe this will bring the price down and encourage Teletoon to actually buy the show, like what happened with Brak.

[Scirel]

That` also a possibility LFV.

Some of the things we are hearing about right now, like 12oz. mouse, might be specials/pilots as well.

[Artimus Gigan]

Oh BTW



Giba-chan= Sonny Chiba

[Zyzzybalubah]

Robot Chicken is Seth Green's project and American Dad is suppose to premiere on Super Bowl day, February 6th.
That's interesting... Remember, Family Guy's Pilot aired after The Superbowl in 1999. :)

Now for my Comments on the New Shows '05 (From the List by KnuxFive):

Robot Chicken- From Sweet J to Seth Green's Untitled Project to Robot Chicken... Weird. Since it is Seth Green, I'm not expecting much, prove me wrong.

American Dad- I'm thinking this will be just recycled Family Guy humor (if you saw the plot outline and their characters, they're just different looking versions of the Family Guy characters.) I'm not sure how long it will last, maybe it can be alright.

Tom Goes To The Mayor- Yes! More Tom. I don't know why this show is so hated, it's so funny! :)

Sealab 2021- Cool. Again, despite the message boards dislike for Sealab, I think it's fine, but I have to admit that they should plan on ending Sealab 2021 soon.

Family Guy- YAY!!! I'm growing very very tired of the reruns. It just doesn't have the rewatchability value that shows like The Simpsons, Space Ghost, The Critic, or even Aqua Teens has.

Birdman- Alright! Now let's hope they'll have more than 6 new episodes, I mean come on! This and ATHF are the top Williams Street shows and both get great ratings!

Stroker and Hoop- I also didn't care for the pilot. I hope that the series will improve though. Again, is it just me, or is anyone thinking this show might have premieres on Saturday after Futurama?

Perfect Hair Forever- I really really hated this the first time I watched it. Second time was okay. But can it really work as a series (if it really is going to be?)

12oz Mouse- Hm... I'll get back to you on that one.

Squidbillies- I don't get it, can't they just put this one in the can? I hope they got really really funny ideas with this one because the delays are riddiculous for a show with such a dull concept.

ATHF- Can't get enough. :)

Boondocks- I think this could be good.

Others: I guess we're not going to hear much about AS Action right away, hope to eventually. Why oh why can't we have more Space Ghost?!?!?! :crying: Nearly everyone loves that show, and from what I remember (unless I'm really off) it got pretty good ratings back when it used to air on Sundays. I hope DC isn't expecting the comic to launch into a successful, serious TV series? I'm hoping Venture Bros. Season 2 isn't out of question, oh I hope it isn't. :(

In other news, I can't wait for those High Definition AS Bumpers!!!! I can't believe how much hair Meatwad really has!!! ;)

[Rabi~en~Rose]

no ratings make for a sad bunny :( were they maybe posted at AS.coms boards?

[Pepperidge]

But... aren't they supposed to announce the ratings for episode seven of FMA tonight?

[TnAdct1]

*wonders if they're going to say anything about action shows in 2005* AS will likely mention new anime series acquisitions later in the year. Besides, with a new season of Inu-Yasha starting soon and at least four more months of new FMA and GITS:SAC, it's not like we'll be having a drought of new anime on AS any time soon.

[livingfruitvirus]

AS will likely mention new anime series acquisitions later in the year. Besides, with a new season of Inu-Yasha starting soon and at least four more months of new FMA and GITS:SAC, it's not like we'll be having a drought of new anime on AS any time soon. FMA is 51 episodes. Try at least 10 more months.

Don't forget GitS 2nd Gig.

[lostrune]

But... aren't they supposed to announce the ratings for episode seven of FMA tonight?
That can wait till next weekend. It's not like there's a new FMA ep this weekend whose ratings they need to announce the week after.

FMA is 51 episodes. Try at least 10 more months.

AS may just show the first ~26 eps before re-running though.
(Then again, Gundam Seed is being shown all the way thru to ~50. Then again, it also got shafted to the stealth hour, so there's no use re-running it now.)

[Rabi~en~Rose]

That can wait till next weekend. It's not like there's a new FMA ep this weekend whose ratings they need to announce the week after.

but episode 7 was last weekend so next week we will just get the ROD/Animatrix ratings and not only that no ratings for last week = ? on how VB christmas did :(

[William C. Maune]

The new Perfect Hair Forever short/series better include Catman!

As for the ratings, we may get them next Saturday right before FMA as they did for a few weeks.

[livingfruitvirus]

The new Perfect Hair Forever short/series better include Catman!

As for the ratings, we may get them next Saturday right before FMA as they did for a few weeks.
When will they make them? Turner's all on vacation til next week.

[William C. Maune]

When will they make them? Turner's all on vacation til next week.

Ah, in that case we are probably out of luck regarding that week's ratings knowledge. Oh well.

[lostrune]

That can wait till next weekend. It's not like there's a new FMA ep this weekend whose ratings they need to announce the week after.
but episode 7 was last weekend so next week we will just get the ROD/Animatrix ratings
Does CN really care about ratings on Xmas day? Do we? :D
It won't really tell them anything useful.

[IWDP Lim]

I'm willing to give Stroker and Hoop a chance as a series. I still remember when The Venture Bros. pilot aired that I thought it was just awful, but then the series itself started and now it's one of the best things they ever had. Then they reaired the pilot after The Animatrix on daylight savings time night and I STILL didn't want them making that peice of crap show. So just bring it on then.

[Beat]

I am DREADING April. New Sealab's and New Tom Goes to the Mayor?! Why not just cancel Adult Swim outright that month?

Perfect hair forever is a series? Well, doesn't that make thing interesting. I suppose we'll be seeing more of the girl in thong.

Also, no action premieres? So I guess it's just FMA and the next GITS, along with the usual reruns of Inu-Yasha, huh?

[Discloner]

I thought they'd already really announced what they had planned for this year when it came to ASA. Wasn't The Cowboy Bebop Movie, Metropolis, The Inuyasha movie, and some other movie announced months ago as airing in 2005?

If I recall, they made the comment that ASA was going to be movie heavy this year. Mixed in with new episodes of FMA continuing, 2nd GIG eventually airing, and new episodes of Inuyasha...I think ASA's pretty much covered.

[livingfruitvirus]

Also, no action premieres? So I guess it's just FMA and the next GITS, along with the usual reruns of Inu-Yasha, huh?
Did you forget about Inu premieres in January?

[Fresh V]

A Perfect Hair Forever show?.............. uh......... well, at least we get to see the actual Squidbillies next year.

What the hell is 12m Mouse? Never heard of it.

American Dad and new Family Guy episodes are airing back to back on Fox Superbowl Sunday. So I guess Adult Swim's airing reruns. It's good they're airing them soon after the first premieres. I had a feeling it would be a while before they started airing it.

Robot Chicken sounds interesting. I wonder what the hell it's about. I guess Space Ghost really is cancelled.:sad:

[Killtacular]

Uh, there is no new Family Guy airing after the Super Bowl. The show isn't close to completion yet. They are airing American Dad and a new Simpsons episode that is a send up of super bowl half time shows.

[Youko Recca]

Oh yeah, that's certainly a rough draft. Besides all the movies and the new FMA and Gits, I'm willing to bet atleast one or two more new ASA show(s). I'm still wanting Samurai Champloo on Adult Swim.

[lostrune]

AS can announce comedy shows well ahead of time because it's their own productions, so they know what's up and when they'd be ready for air.

Meanwhile, anime are acquisitions, which they can do at any time. They may not have acquired something yet or they may acquire something then air it just a month later. In other words, they can take their time when announcing acquisitions.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

yeah and they don't want to announce anime shows and then suddenly not have them for years or get them stolen from another network

also was there no ratings news at the as.com board?

[Fresh V]

Uh, there is no new Family Guy airing after the Super Bowl. The show isn't close to completion yet. They are airing American Dad and a new Simpsons episode that is a send up of super bowl half time shows. Oh really? Oops.:sweat:

So when are they premiering new Family Guy episodes?

[Tienshin]

Oh really? Oops.:sweat:

So when are they premiering new Family Guy episodes?

Summer of '05

[RahXephon]

Adult Swim has triumphantly forgotten to broadcast Wolf's Rain's OAV episodes. Hooray! And I was just thinking to myself, "Gee, it's been such a long time since Adult Swim has betrayed its Action fans, they're way overdue!"

Joy!

[Artimus Gigan]

Adult Swim has triumphantly forgotten to broadcast Wolf's Rain's OAV episodes. Hooray! And I was just thinking to myself, "Gee, it's been such a long time since Adult Swim has betrayed its Action fans, they're way overdue!"

Joy!
Ummm If I remember correctly they didn't really go over well

considering everything went nonsensical in those epeisode

besides you can buy the episodes on DVD

and there's also the 2 volumes manga

[RahXephon]

Ummm If I remember correctly they didn't really go over well

considering everything went nonsensical in those epeisode

besides you can buy the episodes on DVD

and there's also the 2 volumes mangaEven so, that's no excuse to NOT broadcast part of an anime they themselves licensed. By comparison, Super Milk-Chan wasn't received well at all, but I'm sure there'd be bickering if Adult Swim suddenly decided to only broadcast half of the episodes without any explicable reason.

[ClockStomper]

Seems like Fox's really cracking down on Family Guy's language and content...I wonder if AS has the power to broker a deal saying "go ahead and animate/record the scene anyway because we'll air it." Then they could rake in viewers by advertising it as "what FOX dosen't have the balls to show."

FOX is an all-ages network, so them not having the cajones to air the word "crap" in an adult cartoon while cable kiddie networks air the word freely just shows how pathetic they are ("Look at us! We're moralistic! Now watch these lewed beer ads and drugs ads for errections and gentital herpes.")

[Artimus Gigan]

Even so, that's no excuse to NOT broadcast part of an anime they themselves licensed. By comparison, Super Milk-Chan wasn't received well at all, but I'm sure there'd be bickering if Adult Swim suddenly decided to only broadcast half of the episodes without any explicable reason.They did only broadcast half the SMC episodes

the rest are on DVD

[livingfruitvirus]

Half? They're broadcasting them all at 12:30. They didn't buy the original shorts from 1998.

[Artimus Gigan]

Half? They're broadcasting them all at 12:30. They didn't buy the original shorts from 1998.DVD break-up is this
3 All-New SMC Episodes
3 Vintage Milk Episodes

it's half and half


ha pun!

[livingfruitvirus]

Again, they didn't buy the shorts. I thought you were implying that they were pulling the 12:30 run before they premiered all 12.

[Artimus Gigan]

Again, they didn't buy the shorts. I thought you were implying that they were pulling the 12:30 run before they premiered all 12.No I was talking about the series in total

He mentioned the Wolf's Rain OAV's which are separate but related to the intial series

much like the Vintage Milk shorts are separate but releated to All New SMC

[RahXephon]

No I was talking about the series in total

He mentioned the Wolf's Rain OAV's which are separate but related to the intial series

much like the Vintage Milk shorts are separate but releated to All New SMCYour drawn-out, backwards-logic analogy doesn't work. Why? Adult Swim never licensed these vintage shorts (like lfv said...twice). Now, that said, there's even more of a question as to why Adult Swim decided not to show the OAVs in that they were already shown once before, and Kim Manning (you know, AS.com's "Employee of the Month") had mentioned months in advance that Adult Swim had gone out of their way to license them. It doesn't make any sense that Adult Swim would neglect showing something they had gone out of their way to license, simply because it wasn't received well.

[Artimus Gigan]

Your drawn-out, backwards-logic analogy doesn't work. Why? Adult Swim never licensed these vintage shorts (like lfv said...twice). Now, that said, there's even more of a question as to why Adult Swim decided not to show the OAVs in that they were already shown once before, and Kim Manning (you know, AS.com's "Employee of the Month") had mentioned months in advance that Adult Swim had gone out of their way to license them. It doesn't make any sense that Adult Swim would neglect showing something they had gone out of their way to license, simply because it wasn't received well.
They did the same thing with Kikaider when it aired, they skipped the OAVs

for whatever reason they just restart the series

though AS has not shown the 4 clip shows of WR even though they are part of the main series

[RahXephon]

Even with Kikaider, it was played through quite a few times including the OAVs.

In this case, it was the second weeknight run. There were a lot of fans who had missed the series the first time who were tuning in for a repeat-showing, to either help fill in the gaps, or just because they liked it. The fact that Adult Swim completely forgot about the OAVs this time around is a smack in the face for all of its Action fans.

Moreover, according to the schedule here, it looks like episodes 29 and 30 are planned sometime next week. Why would they skip two OAVs, then place the other two straight in the middle of another run? That's worse than not playing the OAVs at all.

It just doesn't make sense.

[Tienshin]

Even with Kikaider, it was played through quite a few times including the OAVs.

In this case, it was the second weeknight run. There were a lot of fans who had missed the series the first time who were tuning in for a repeat-showing, to either help fill in the gaps, or just because they liked it. The fact that Adult Swim completely forgot about the OAVs this time around is a smack in the face for all of its Action fans.

Moreover, according to the schedule here, it looks like episodes 29 and 30 are planned sometime next week. Why would they skip two OAVs, then place the other two straight in the middle of another run? That's worse than not playing the OAVs at all.

It just doesn't make sense.



I noticed that and assumed it was scheduling error and that the OVA's would start last night and wrap up next week before it moves to the 1:30 timeslot. They can still rectify the problem and get all of the OVA episodes in before the time slot change but they would have to start tonight.

Weird situation. I can see why people would be pissed.

[Crimefighter]

Cutting out the OVA episodes was a stupid thing to do, cause its a wrap up of the series.

Little note, they are playing the last OVA episode TWICE next week according to CN's own schedule.

[Master Moron]

Am I the only one who thinks that 1 inch Mouse might just be the title of the Perfect Hair Forever special?

[Tienshin]

Am I the only one who thinks that 1 inch Mouse might just be the title of the Perfect Hair Forever special?

They listed all the series titles, why would they decide to change up and list the title of only one series...when it has several episodes in production?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

another new Sealab promo? why do they keep ending with "your card here"?

[RahXephon]

They can still rectify the problem and get all of the OVA episodes in before the time slot change but they would have to start tonight.

Weird situation. I can see why people would be pissed.So, um... that didn't happen.

Adult Swim is on crack.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

what happened to this?

Thursday December 30th

11:00/3:00 – Read or Die
1:00 – The Animatrix

I guess they couldn't live two nights without the F shows :( I wanted to watch RoD again but early not late :(

[Eddy]

Robot Chicken- Seth Green is making this, huh? Okay, I'll give it a chance

American Dad- Since it's from Seth, I expect it to be good.

Tom Goes To The Mayor- I haven't even got around to watching Tom...

Sealab 2021- Bleh. :shrug:

Family Guy- Yayness! New Family Guy episodes!

Birdman- I'm happy.

Stroker and Hoop- Meh. I didn't care much for the pilot...

Perfect Hair Forever- ...

12oz Mouse- What's that?

Squidbillies- I'm not really looking forward to this show too much...

Aqua Teen Hunger Force - Kick arse.

Anyway, I caught Read or Die for the first time today. It was a pretty good movie, I must say. Good animation, good writting, likeable characters... Yeah, it was a very good movie.

And Agent Paper was adorable.

[William C. Maune]

what happened to this?

I thought the schedule for tonight was always supposed to be F/FG/RoD.

[Tienshin]

I thought the schedule for tonight was always supposed to be F/FG/RoD.

It was. I goofed on that.
:sad:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

It was. I goofed on that.
:sad:

you set my hopes high only to have them dashed again :(

[Obi]

Perfect. Hair. Forever.


The Series.




YES!

[freerock1.com]

I thought they'd already really announced what they had planned for this year when it came to ASA. Wasn't The Cowboy Bebop Movie, Metropolis, The Inuyasha movie, and some other movie announced months ago as airing in 2005?

If I recall, they made the comment that ASA was going to be movie heavy this year. Mixed in with new episodes of FMA continuing, 2nd GIG eventually airing, and new episodes of Inuyasha...I think ASA's pretty much covered.Have they announced when Metropolis is supposed to air? I thought originally it was scheduled for 1/1, but of course that didn't happen. Nice to see the CB movie in the plan, though.

As for the rest of ASA, it sounds like they're really scaling back on new series this year as compared to '04, although I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one new series acquisition (in addition to GitS #2). Would love to see new eps of Case Closed; I know at this point it looks doubtful, but I do think if they had started it out on Saturdays as they've done with FMA & GitS (and as was originally the plan) it would have had similar results. Maybe when the repeats return they'll give it a Saturday shot, before 1AM, where it would likely at least occasionally crack the top 3. It's optimistic, but hey, we can hope.