What would you like to see on Adult Swim?

[JustJack]

Y'know...if Adult Swim is gona be around for awhile..I think we need some more shows! Anyway, how 'bout we compile a list of shows we'd like to see on Adult Swim. Can be a made-up show, an old already existing show, show based offa something else..??

My list:
Clerks: Even though the "uncensored" tape is out now, It'd be nice if cartoon network picked up the show. The first 6 episodes, then we could pray that Cartoon Network would be willing to fund for more episodes. Perhaps ones with more "Kevin Smith crudeness". Heck, maybe we'd see Clerks cross over with the other View Askew movies? Clerks..meets...God..as Allanis Morriset...haha...

Johnny the Homicidal Maniac: It'd probably have to be on later than Cowboy Bebop..but still. With the success of Invader Zim, I can just imagine Johnny, with his murderous adventures. From turning a "Toca Hell" into a slaughter house...to his timely adventures in the netherworld...Oh..I'd love to see a Johnny cartoon. Heck, if they can get away with Zim stealing kids organs..they can show a wall of blood..and..everything else that goes on...hehe!

Trigun: While, personally, Trigun is probably better for Toonami, if it were on Adult Swim, we would be able to see it uncut. There's nothing really bad in it. Maybe a few bad words. Otherwise...oh yeah...Wolfwoods a chain smoker...but hey..that's what Adult Swim is all about!

Movies: Sure..it'd probably be around 2 or 3 AM when they'd show these..but perhaps we could get some niiice anime, mostly uncut. Or other good series? I'm thinkin' Akira..Armitage...Utena: the movie(minus the nudity..)...When the new Lupin movies come out..oooohhh..I'd love to see those! But, they could also show "Aeon Flux". The ol' MTV toon gone movie-series. Anyway..just a suggestion..

And how about more shows made by the "ghost planet" crew, huh?! And I'd love to see more shows like Sea Lab 2021...classic..yet modern..and a big joke at Hanna Barbera..haha...

[Maxie Zeus]

It definitely needs more variety. An hour of "Home Movies" is too much, and frankly so too is an hour of Williams Street productions (and I say that as a die-hard fan of SG:C2C).

One problem, I suspect, is that to excuse them running shows like "Cowboy Bebop" they feel they have to construct a lineup that is entirely offputting to younger viewers, so they go for jittery, illustrated radio fare like "HM" and "ATHF" and "Brak Show" and the rest. It's too much.

I'm thinking they need to loosen up and think of the Adult Swim block as an alternative-style prime time block. They basically have the elements in place: Sitcoms, hard-edge dramas and a late night show. Maybe if they put it together as a parallel night-time schedule, something like:

10:00 The PJs (or some such sitcom type show)
10:30 Home Movies
11:00 Clerks
11:30 Williams Street Theater (rotating SeaLab, Harvey Birdman, Brak & ATHF)
11:45 Cowboy Bebop
12:15 Cowboy Bebop (or Trigun or some other anime)
12:45 Space Ghost: Coast to Coast

That way you could start off with something relatively tame and safe for kids, and would gradually edge toward more "adult" stuff as the evening progresses.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

It would be nice to know how the block is doing. I don't expect big ratings for a cable block late in the night, but surely some info can be released concerning the ratings?

[The Mad Hatter]

One word: Duckman.

[Fish]

]Oh yeah, Duckman and Aeon Flux would be sooo great!
Duckman airs on comedy central but it so early!!
And as a big anime fan I would love to se Serial Experiment Lainand maybe some cyberpunk anime


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[Calhoun07]

I'd get rid of Aqua Teen Hunger Force in a heart beat.

I'd pick Clerks, Undergrads, Mission Hill, and the Oblongs as shows they should take from other networks and give them new life.

Duckman would be great, too, but let's not forget Clerks. Bob and Margaret and Dr Katz would be popular on Adult Swim too (and uncut! I know that Bob and Margaret contains some nudity, which they did show uncut on Comedy Central).

TV Funhouse, but without the animal puppets and live action stuff. Just have Smigel put together a couple cartoons that they could put on in fifteen minute slot each week.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I'd actually prefer to see more ORIGINAL Adult Swim shows. Instead of taking rejects from other networks (as good as some of them seemed to be) it would be cool if they could try some odd things with AS. As MZ said, variety should take precedence--maybe even some experimentation. I guess we'd see more original shows on AS sometime in the future anyway

Here's a good lineup:

10:00 Sitcom animation
10:30 More sitcom
11:00 Original AS program
11:30 Original AS program
12:00 Some anime, maybe an odd one--here's a good one: Princess Nine. It's about a girl athlete in a baseball team. groan if you will, but it's variety!
12:30 Some drama, either anime or original AS program.

[Calhoun07]

So what kind of new programming would you like to see? Personally, I'd kill to see Brad Bird develop a new series for Adult Swim. And I know Craig McKracken is capable of more than the Powerpuff Girls (in fact, he has some short cartoons on a DVD I have of a bunch of hard to find shorts. I forget the caracter he did on there. I think it's on a Spike and Mike compilation. I'd like to see him develop that character into an Adult Swim series.)

Taking cancelled shows from other networks (I hate to call them rejects, because I think of reject as something that is lacking in quality and none of the shows mentioned so far were lacking in quality by any stretch of the imagination) would be more ideal if they spun Adult Swim off to it's own network or dramatically increased the air time they gave it each week. Original programing is the best way to go; I don't think you'd get many new viewers by taking yesterday's toons.

[Joe Tully]

Well, right now they are showing 2 eps of Home Movies, which seems wrong to me. I am now wondering if this has to do with the ratings as reported at the news page. (Home Movies was highest rated for all of AS!) I would like it if they replaced at least one of these, though this is probably unlikely because of the ratings. The quickest was to do this would be with an already-produced series, which I would like to be either Dr. Katz or The Tick. I would really like to see them start making Dr. Katz instead of Home Movies, especially since they seem to have the exact same voice talent so the only problem might be in getting guest stars as patients, which I don't think would be too hard. Ooh, or they could put in a block of the pre-Code Fleischer cartoons! I think that would be great! Just a classic risque-toon block, I know this would be different than the other material but I don't think that this would be so bad if it was starting out the block, the difference wouldn't be jarring. This could possibly include blackface gag cartoons too, and the Mammy T&Js. Okay, there's been talk about that before so that isn't quite my idea, but it's good. I also think that they could go with Maxie's suggestion of just reducing all of the new Williams St. shows to just one half-hour. They could also replace this with reruns of something at least for a short while until a new series could be made.

So, my ideal AS would go:

Uncensored Classics (pre-Code Betty Boop and Talkartoons & such replaces first Home Movies)

The Tick (replaces second 30 min Home Movies)

Williams St. (Random Williams St. replaces Brak Show)

Dr. Katz (replaces Birdman/ATHF/Sealab)

SGC2C (same place)

Cowboy Bebop fills last hour as usual!




Well? Whaddaya think sirs?

[Calhoun07]

REPLACE THE BRAK SHOW??????
>>weeping with the sadness of Brak when he lost the talent contest<< "This is an outrage!"

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Actually, I think HM is the highest rated show by virtue of its timeslot. As you noticed, the ratings got progressively lower as the night went by--most shows later in the night get lower ratings anyway. If you put any other AS show in the 10:00pm timeslot, the ratings may well be just as high.

[Lonestarr]

10:00 - Home Movies
10:30 - Daria (MTV clearly has no more interest in it)
11:00 - Duckman
11:30 - Williams Street programming
11:45 - various animated shorts (I remember that IFC used to show some in-between their movies. They stopped a long time ago, so they should end up here)
12:00 - Cowboy Bebop (full hour, as it should be)

[DR. BELCH]

--about Daria. I miss her something terribly! I also want to suggest once a month an animated adult movie for the nine to eleven slot before Bebop, and my first choice'd be I Married a Strange Person, by Bill Plympton. The sickest buggardly thing I've ever seen in cartoondom. I laughed my gluteus maximus off....

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Actually, I think HM is the highest rated show by virtue of its timeslot. As you noticed, the ratings got progressively lower as the night went by--most shows later in the night get lower ratings anyway. If you put any other AS show in the 10:00pm timeslot, the ratings may well be just as high.

I thought the same thing. But still, I am not sure if CN would be willing to take the "risk" of replacing it with something else. Maybe yes, maybe no. And execs. don't always see things the way they should. I would be interested in seeing if the second Home Movies did as well as the Brak Show when it was in that block.

[Calhoun07]

What happened to the DVD release that was supposed to be coming out this December? Nobody has it for pre sale yet.:confused:

[joker]

Originally posted by JustJack


Johnny the Homicidal Maniac: It'd probably have to be on later than Cowboy Bebop..but still. With the success of Invader Zim, I can just imagine Johnny, with his murderous adventures. From turning a "Toca Hell" into a slaughter house...to his timely adventures in the netherworld...Oh..I'd love to see a Johnny cartoon. Heck, if they can get away with Zim stealing kids organs..they can show a wall of blood..and..everything else that goes on...hehe!



yes! i would love to see a jthm cartoon. they only problem would be the writing might get a little iffy if the creator(his name leaves me at the moment) doesnt do most of it

id like to see aqua teen hunger force off. id hope that beavis and but head could be picked up. other than that already good suggestions have been made.

[Nightwing]

I won't set up the Adult Swim line up, but I WILL give it some formal rules to go by:

1) The Brak Show, and Space Ghost: A half hour each. I don't like those 15 minute incriments and it's really not neccessary to point them out. It stretches through a half hour, so we're cool.

2) Ease off on the original AS programing for now. We did that in the beginning in order to fill the void between Brak and Space Ghost, and we got a few clunkers with gimmicks that probably won't last long. Make original shows, but take your time and put some CN muscle behind them before churning them out.

3) Dr. Katz! I like Home movies a lot, but I STILL miss Dr. Katz. Maybe we could bring back Dr. Katz but fit this character into it or something. He's really funny too, wouldn't want to lose that.

4) Ooooh FREAK OUT!! Freakazoid!!! "Sorry about that ma'am, I set my pager to: 'vibrate my bottom!' " This show needs more play, physically and fanbase wise. It deserves it.

[Lonestarr]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
--about Daria. I miss her something terribly! I also want to suggest once a month an animated adult movie for the nine to eleven slot before Bebop, and my first choice'd be I Married a Strange Person, by Bill Plympton. The sickest buggardly thing I've ever seen in cartoondom. I laughed my gluteus maximus off....

Wow, praise from Caesar. Really, though, MTV just shoved it off the schedule for what? Crappy game shows (there will never be another "Remote Control"), making of specials and "Real World" crap. If you haven't already, there's a petition to get Daria on DVD that you should sign. It's at www.petitiononline.com/dvdaria

[The Dork Knight]

Personally I would love to see the flash cartoon Zombie College on it. You can see it a www.icebox.com

[pencilsharp]

Personally, I would like to see Terry Moore's "Strangers in Paradise" comic adapted for AS. But then Williams Street wouldn't be able to rehash an old HB series to do it, so it won't happen... :(
~pS~

[Calhoun07]

How about an anthology series that showcases cartooning styles from alternative comic book artists? I'd love to see something like that, and the most popular cartoons could spin off into new series.

[Flying Grayson]

Personally, I want to see "Undergrads" on adult seim. Mtv is doing anything with them

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by Flying Grayson
Personally, I want to see "Undergrads" on adult seim. Mtv is doing anything with them

Actually CN could make a hour on Adult Swim called "The College Years". It could consist of "Zombie College" and "Undergrads". I doubt CN would do it though....

[Jimmy Kustes]

Stuff I've heard of but never seen like:

Aeon Flex
Fish Police
The Alvin Show
The Racoons
UnderGRADS etc.

I've also pitched this idea about a thousand times on these boards. The idea is to have a show about cartoons series that fail after about five episodes like Mission Hill, Clerks, or Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain.

They would show every ep with full commentary in the bumpers like Toonheads.

Shows that have their fate sealed up before they even start are more interesting than shows that last a few years. It would be The Behind The Music for cartoons! :cool:

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by duncanzits
The Racoons

The Racoons is a show for young children. (However it is and always will be a personal favorite) IT last a few seasons. At the moment a new special with them is in the works. Sadly it won't be shown in the USA.... :mad:

Actually, since MTV no longer airs it, why does'nt CN get the rights to "Celebrity Deathmatch"? It would do pretty good on CN! They could even air the rarly shown season one eppys and the banned ones! Like Eminem VS. Kid Rock and Joe C. (Banned due to Joe C.'s death last year), Jeff Gordon VS. Dale Ernhart, and Carol O' Connor VS. Sherman Hemsly.

[Don The Rodd]

I like to see more of Aqua Man dancing and maybe put Space Ghost on earlier! (First would be nice)

[X-human]

I'd like to see Roman Dirge's Lenore get her own li`l show. (He's one of the writer's on Invader ZIM)

And maybe a Penny Arcade, but I'm not sure how well they could pull off even 15 mins.

[GrantM]

About Trigun, from what I've heard it has an excessive amount of gun use which might make it slightly unsuitable for both Toonami and Adult Swim, but then again another show they could bring is Beavis And Butt-Head, I mean MTV lost interest in it years ago (just like Daria) and showing both Beavis And Butt-Head and then Daria on Adult Swim could be a good choice for Adult Swim

[Calhoun07]

If Adult Swim were to revive any MTV cartoons, I'd pick Daria and Liquid Television as the two series I most would like to see on the AS line up.

[Don The Rodd]

Liquid TV.....ahhh, almost forgot about that one. Good choice! I 2nd it!

[baron_calamity]

First off, Adult Swim would be twice as long as it is now. Ending around 4am. Now, my line up..

10:00 Daria
10:30 Duckman
11:00 Rotating William street shows
11:30 SGC2C
12:00 Bob & Margrette
12:30 Home Movies (BTW loved the "if its bad for UPN comment")
1:00 Liquid TV Or rotating MTV animation such as Head, Maxx, and others
1:30 80's Toy flashback (A rotating "best of" of 80's cartoons such as He Man, Gi Joe, Transformers.)
2:00 2 hour block Adult style Anime such as Cowboy bebop

[OutlawStar]

I want Adult Swim to show the Cowboy Bebop movie "Knocking on Heaven's Door". I heard it's real good. And more Aquaman dancing

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by baron_calamity
First off, Adult Swim would be twice as long as it is now. Ending around 4am. Now, my line up..

10:00 Daria
10:30 Duckman
11:00 Rotating William street shows
11:30 SGC2C
12:00 Bob & Margrette
12:30 Home Movies (BTW loved the "if its bad for UPN comment")
1:00 Liquid TV Or rotating MTV animation such as Head, Maxx, and others
1:30 80's Toy flashback (A rotating "best of" of 80's cartoons such as He Man, Gi Joe, Transformers.)
2:00 2 hour block Adult style Anime such as Cowboy bebop

4AM??? No way! Soem of us have to work in the morning! I just want to see it start earlier! Or have Thursday night become a night of new programming instead of being the repeat night.

[don Jaime]

"Dexter's Rude Removal" would be nice.

[baron_calamity]

calhoun, I work too and have to record even the stuff that comes on at 10. :)

[Calhoun07]

Ah, but til 4am? I'd have to record like 5 hours of programming! I'd run out of tape, unless I recorded it at a slow speed, but that looks ugly.

I think the Adult Swim line up should expand, but my vote it to have Thursday night as a night for new programming as well.

[Don The Rodd]

Maybe have Adult Swim every night with maybe an hour or two only a night and different shows on different nights?
Yes? No? Maybe?

[Calhoun07]

I would be fine with that, too!

If they ever decided to spin Toonami and Adult Swim off into it's own network, I would finally have a reason to get digital cable!

[JustJack]

I'm all up for the whole "every night, various shows per-night" idea. Mainly because I'm really losing interest in Midnight Run programming(I enjoy myself so much more on Thursday & Sunday nights. Now I expect to watch something funny at night...not Gundam). anyway..

I'd love to see a more-crude-revival of FREAKAZOID! HUGBEES! hahaha...anyway. I mean, c'mon! It's a nerdy fanboy, who turns into a hero! There are so many grown up things that can be brought up through that! First of all...Nerdy, & the Internet...hmmm...what else is there to think of? Second...it is THE fanboy show. So...hot chicks. haha. I'm not saying make a perverted Freakazoid Show...I'm just saying...well....yeah.

Liquid TV!!! I have been buying up all those DVDs I can find! I'd love it if they got the rights to Liquid TV. Just 30 minutes, they could show pieces of the various Aeon Flux mini-movies, & other NEW TALENT shows. Sick humor, but overall just right.

Beavis & Butthead shall never be done ever again. It's 100% out of production. I wouldn't want it back unless we could get new episodes.

Daria...I'd love to see Daria again. Sometimes, when I'm watching the TV Guide channel, & I see MTV come up, & I see Diary, but since I'm sitting so far away, the first thing I think is "DARIA!" Then I get all depressed...and you know why? Because Diary sucks. yes it does. ::nods::

[ZorBrak]

a revamped freakazoid would be awesome

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by JustJack
Liquid TV!!! I have been buying up all those DVDs I can find! I'd love it if they got the rights to Liquid TV. Just 30 minutes, they could show pieces of the various Aeon Flux mini-movies, & other NEW TALENT shows. Sick humor, but overall just right.

I've only seen on Liquid TV DVD out. Are there more??

I am all for Adult Swim aquiring MTV's animation now that MTV has closed the door on it. Let's not forget Downtown and Undergrads!

I will certainly buy the Daria Is it Fall Yet DVD when it comes out in January, but I wonder if they will ever do their season sets or if that's out of the picture?

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by JustJack
Y'know...if Adult Swim is gona be around for awhile..I think we need some more shows! Anyway, how 'bout we compile a list of shows we'd like to see on Adult Swim.

Well, Baby Blues is coming in January, but it's only the beginning. Obviously the network is ready to support Adult Swim. However, I think that three hours a week (plus the encore airings on Thursday) aren't enough, and soon, I hope, the network will realize that. So, I'm talking expansion. Weekends are okay by me. The Sunday block is prime, but a Saturday night block would simply rule. But I think the network want to concentrate more on the current block, and more programming is always welcome.

Out of already completed series (and those that could easily make new ones):

- Duckman: Why? Well, aside from being one of the best shows to come out of Klasky-Csupo, it was raw when raw was unfashionable. Crude, humorous, it just rules.

- Clerks: Dante and Randall deserved a better fate than what the alphabet network gave them. Six episodes weren't enough, and the View Askewniverse is so much wider. I'm sure the network would pay money to save this series the way they saved Home Movies.

- The Critic: Sardonic, witty, and a great series for parodies. The writers still have it, and Jon Lovitz still has it. So, I want to have it, only on Adult Swim.

Obviously, thanks to the Toonami connection Adult Swim has (psst, if you didn't know, both are Williams Street-guided productions), anime will have to play a part in the future of Adult Swim, and though the focus has mainly been on comedy, there's always a place for action (but not too much). Plus, to whichever anime show becomes the heir to Cowboy Bebop, good luck . . . you have big boots to fill.

Here are a couple that need to be on Adult Swim:

- Trigun: The insurance gals. The legendary killer. The goofball behind the glasses. Comedy, action, and just plain fun.

- Tenchi Muyo: I know, I know, it's already been on Toonami, but a lot has been cut out of it. Though the nudity might still be a no-no, a lot of the language and humor would remain intact on Adult Swim.

- Slayers: Magic, fantasy, a "flat-chested gal" who depowers during those . . . special times. If any show deserves a spot on Adult Swim, it has to be this one!

Of course, you also have the creative minds of Williams Street at the helm of Adult Swim. They've already mastered the act of making classic shows and obscure shows into classics (see Sealab 2021 and Space Ghost Coast to Coast), plus they have access to the vast Hanna-Barbera library, and a lot of shows dying to be Ghostisized (ugh, felt dirty writing that). I can't say which shows they should do, I don't have their mentality (at least, I don't think they do).

And that's what I want to see on Adult Swim.

[The Dork Knight]

You know there were other MTV shows that are worth time on Adult Swim!
CELEBRITY
DEATHMATCH

Come on! This would fit in perectly into Adult Swim!

[John-Paul]

I'd-like-to-see-B.Happy

[spectre316]

My first thought was most definetly Daria. Such a great series... would go well with Home Movies back to back - my reason is that many kids liked Daria (heck, I loved Daria in 7th grade) and apparently many young kids like HM. I love HM also. The editing and lines are so awesome.

And at 11:00 we could have Baby Blues (lose ATHF and BS -- I love them, but Sealab 2021 is better). 11:30 -- Space Ghost, and then at 12:00 -- a whole half hour of Sealab. 12:30 -- Cowboy Bebop.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by nemalki


Well, Baby Blues is coming in January, but it's only the beginning. Obviously the network is ready to support Adult Swim. However, I think that three hours a week (plus the encore airings on Thursday) aren't enough, and soon, I hope, the network will realize that. So, I'm talking expansion. Weekends are okay by me. The Sunday block is prime, but a Saturday night block would simply rule. But I think the network want to concentrate more on the current block, and more programming is always welcome.


I don't think Mission Hill is coming back to the WB, and Clerks, like some suggested, could use another run. Personally, I thought Mission Hill was garish looking, but it could hook some AS viewers, so why not?

As for anime, how about a "fan-service" comedy? Instead of your requisite action or fighting show, a more domestic show could be nice. "Love Hina" I can see airing on a nightly spot.

[Damien Oujia]

what happened to the rumored new Clerks episodes Kevin Smith was going to make?

[Calhoun07]

I loved the designs in Mission Hill but more than that, I loved the characterization. There were aspects of those characters that could have been carried on for quite a while, seeds they planted in those first six episodes that never got to grow. Kinda like the first season of Working, another great sitcom to be that never got off the ground for various reasons.

Most certainly, Mission Hill had a much stronger base of characters than Family Guy had/has, and look how long Family Guy has lasted with what they are doing!

[Elven Moon]

I'd really like to see Trigun on Adult Swim :D It's one of my favorite series, and I'd love to watch it on TV, uncut (well, minimal cuts at least). Space Ghost Coast to Coast stays of course, but more episodes should be shown!

[Killtacular]

Yeah.

Pioneer and Williams Street don't seem to like each other right now. I mean, WS even aired the DiC edits of the Sailor Moon movies. That's kind of weird and oddly cold.

[Stinky Cat]

ok ren and stipmy!!! but its on nickelodeon right now.. :(

[Calhoun07]

Since CN isn't run by Viacom, I doubt we'd see that any Nicktoons on that channel for quite some time.

[Jimmy Kustes]

This thread was originaly started by Foley is Good, wasn't it? Why isn't my original post on here?

Here is the usual stuff:
O Canada/International Cartoons
Dexter's Rude Removal/ The Barbequer
Animated music videos
Pink Floyd's The Wall/ The Beatles' Yellow Submarine (Are those animated)

My original post:

Stuff I've heard of but never seen like:

Aeon Flex
Fish Police
The Alvin Show
The Racoons (some one pointed out this is a kids' program)
UnderGRADS etc.

I've also pitched this idea about a thousand times on these boards. The idea is to have a show about cartoons series that fail after about five episodes like Mission Hill, Clerks, or Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain.

They would show every ep with full commentary in the bumpers like Toonheads.

Shows that have their fate sealed up before they even start are more interesting than shows that last a few years. It would be The Behind The Music for cartoons!

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by duncanzits
This thread was originaly started by Foley is Good, wasn't it? Why isn't my original post on here?


There was a bit of confusion because there were TWO threads with the exact same name. I decided to merge them into one, so your "lost" post can be found here now. :)

[RoboHobo]

one word: BERZERK

[reebers]

I have to say that I would love to see the following on Cartoon Network's Adult swim:

Trigun
Ruroni Kenshin
Lain
X:The Tv series
Noir
Read or Die
Inu Yasha
Neon Genesis Evangelion (sans the last 2 eps)

[Calhoun07]

I really don't want to see Adult Swim become another anime line up. But I wouldn't mind those shows being a part of it once Cowboy Bebop is off rotation or if they add another night of programming, but even if they add another night of programming, I really don't want to see more than an hour of anime. There is just so much more out there that deserves attention too and as much as I love anime, so much of it gets too much exposure as it is. I want to see Adult Swim give exposure to shows that people didn't notice the first time around but deserve a second chance, like in the way they saved Home Movies.

[Killtacular]

Well, here's what I know.

Adult Swim is expanding to 9 pm, starting with Aqua Teens.

Mission Hill, Eltingsville, Baby Blues, and the new Birdmans will have to fit in somehow.

Even with that, the schedule could be:

9 PM: Aqua Teens/Aquaman
9:15 PM: The Brak Show/Sealab 2021/Birdman
9:30 PM: Mission Hill
10 PM: Baby Blues
10:30 PM: Home Movies
11 PM: Eltingsville
11:30 PM: Space Ghost
12 PM: Cowboy Bebop

Seems awfully cramped, don't ya think? That's why Williams Street is thinking of not keeping Thursdays as a repeat. It could give them some elbow room.

[reebers]

I agree if the anime they picked up was something beside DBZ. There is a diff between all anime and mostly DBZ.

I was saying that I would love for one of these series to be in the rotation. The only reason I bother watching Adult Swim id for Cowboy Bebop. I would love series that would try to be on par animation wise be it anime or American animation it makes no difference to me. Anime is animation, it shouldn't be in a separate box.

[Jimmy Kustes]

CN could show a slightly less edited run of Tenchi, and Outlaw Star on AS.

But I want to see the full run of Big O! It is too short of a series to run on Toonami!

[Dalamar]

Turkey Television? :)

[DeKaR]

RoboHobo.....you're joking right? -_-;; Way too good for CN anyways. :D Wouldn't make, ever.

[ChibiOtaku]

Irresponsible Captain Tylor would rule... :)

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Before I go onto my list of the stuff I'd like to see, in reference to Duncanzits' request for the "full run" of the Big O, Toonami DID run the entire series. It was only 12-13 episodes long, unfortunately. But anyway here's my request list:

Invader Zim: this show would be even cooler if Jhonen Vasques could write it to the Adult Swim audience

Trigun: this show rocks. Plain and simple.

Clerks: again, this show would be even cooler if Kevin Smith could write it for Adult Swim instead of ABC primetime.

Just some suggestions, incase any errant CN exec. stumbles upon this message board.

[DJRed]

Only one person has mentioned this.

I must have The Critic on AS. There are already little mini-eps. on Shockwave.com so i'm sure all the people working on that would be ready and willing to make full eps. on Adult Swim. and of course Daria would also be good.

But ya know I just want to ask what is an "adult"cartoon?
Badly drawn Conversational humor is not what i think of. And, as much as i love it, really space ghost isn't exactly grown up either.
it's hard to tell what counts as adult.
Personally I think of The Simpsons. if only Fox had let Family Guy go. Then that could be brought to AS.

[Calhoun07]

My definition of an "adult" cartoon:
(people please feel free to post their own ideas!)

I don't think of an adult cartoon as requiring crude drawings and crude humor. I think a show like Home Movies works on Adult Swim because the humor is far more dry and subtle than for a child to usually catch on, at least most children. I feel adult cartoons deal with issues adults are more interested in, and are prehaps more like regular sit coms than traditional kids cartoons.

The best examples of adult cartoons I can think of:
Dr Katz
The Critic
Mission Hill
Bob and Margaret
Clerks
Dilbert
Daria
Duckman
and probably a couple others I am forgetting at the moment.

Those cartoons are not your typical family type shows because they don't deal with families in a Simpsons kind of way. They are written to appeal to an older audience, not that they can't be enjoyed by kids, but they seemed to be better enjoyed by adults.

I want Adult Swim to evolve into programming that allows for this kind of intelligent programming. Not that shows that feature crude humor aren't funny, but I want a more balanced diet with my Adult Swim programming.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Then how about Evangelion or...um...Evangelion? Although the first quarter of the show is mostly Gundam on a low animation budget, the remainder is some of the best, and most intelligent anime I've ever seen. There are "Critically Acclaimed" shows on the major networks with shallower characters than Eva( I won't name any here for fear of backlash ).

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
Then how about Evangelion or...um...Evangelion? Although the first quarter of the show is mostly Gundam on a low animation budget, the remainder is some of the best, and most intelligent anime I've ever seen. There are "Critically Acclaimed" shows on the major networks with shallower characters than Eva( I won't name any here for fear of backlash ).

I think Eva is a great suggestion. I'd also like to see Serial Experiments Lain on AS. Has that ever been televised in America? I honestly don't know; the only way I have seen it is on DVD so far.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Calhoun07 posted


I'd also like to see Serial Experiments Lain on AS. Has that ever been televised in America?

Out in California, there is a public access channel, "KTEH" is the station name I think, that broadcasts Anime at 10 pm Sunday nights. I've heard that Evangelion aires on there quite frequently, and I was lucky enough to catch an episode of Lain on there when I was on vacation a while back.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
Then how about Evangelion or...um...Evangelion? Although the first quarter of the show is mostly Gundam on a low animation budget, the remainder is some of the best, and most intelligent anime I've ever seen. There are "Critically Acclaimed" shows on the major networks with shallower characters than Eva( I won't name any here for fear of backlash ).

Gundam on a low budget is Gundam Wing (ducks)

I agree about Evangelion. A worthy trip, but will be baffling to most viewers. Matt would hate the ending... :p

Kare-Kano is also a worthy show...but it's too Japanese, I fear, and the narrative is way too odd for most viewers.

[The Dork Knight]

Anyone remember Gary and Mike? That show deserves to be on AS! The New York episode was the best....

- Foley Is Good

"Watcha doin'? Poopin'?" - Perverted little man in G&M
10 minutes later
"Watcha doin'? Takin' a nap then gonna go poopin' again?" - Again the perverted little man on G&M

[Calhoun07]

I never got to see Gary and Mike when it was on UPN so I would be all for it being on Adult Swim. I am not sure about who owns the rights and the chances of this happening, though.

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I never got to see Gary and Mike when it was on UPN so I would be all for it being on Adult Swim. I am not sure about who owns the rights and the chances of this happening, though.

There were only 7 episodes made. They had aired them following a special claymation hour on Fridays (Celebrity Deathmatch at 8:00, then Gary and Mike at 8:30)

- Foley Is Good

[Calhoun07]

I kept on forgetting it was on. But I do remember seeing commercials for it.

[Eric Draven]

My Ideas for Adult Swim:

10:00-10:30pm - Home Movies
10:30-11:00pm - Aqua Teen Hunger Force
11:00-11:30pm - Sealab 2023
11:30-12:00am - Brak Show
12:00-12:30am - Harvey Bridman:Attorney at Law
12:30-01:00am - Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast
01:00-01:30am - Cartoon Planet
01:30-06:00am - Porn

We're gonna need a bigger boat

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
My Ideas for Adult Swim:

10:00-10:30pm - Home Movies
10:30-11:00pm - Aqua Teen Hunger Force
11:00-11:30pm - Sealab 2023
11:30-12:00am - Brak Show
12:00-12:30am - Harvey Bridman:Attorney at Law
12:30-01:00am - Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast
01:00-01:30am - Cartoon Planet
01:30-06:00am - Porn

We're gonna need a bigger boat



Uhhhhhhhhh.....no. http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/ups/the_turtle/supasmsm0.gif

But then again, I could imagine it....airings of anime like Venus 5 and Twin Angels and some of the underground stuff from the 70's would truly make it ADULT Swim in more ways than one!

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
My Ideas for Adult Swim:01:30-06:00am - Porn

Whoa mama! :eek:

Actually they could air stuff like Fritz the Cat during those times!

- Foley Is Good

[Thad Komorowski]

Okay, who'd actually WANT to see a nude cartoon character??? :o



-Thad

[DJRed]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thad Komorowski
[B]Okay, who'd actually WANT to see a nude cartoon character??? :o



WHAT!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you poor simple minded fool.
there's a whole industry based on that... I mean come on.. Faye Valentine naked.
what's not to love!?
but this is just a whole other topic isn't it?

[Calhoun07]

Ah, and what a topic it would be! But we gotta keep it PG-13 here!

[Eric Draven]

Yeah... [pant pant] like the time they are all sitting around in heavy clothes.. [pant pant] drinking tea and doing paperwork.. heh.. MAN.. now THATS quality PORN


"Egon, there is something VERY strange about that man"

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Yeah... [pant pant] like the time they are all sitting around in heavy clothes.. [pant pant] drinking tea and doing paperwork.. heh.. MAN.. now THATS quality PORN


It is on Ferenginar, at least when it's beautiful women engaged in such acts!

[ccffan01]

How about something like mystery science theatre 3000(non-animation) were they take cartoon movies and mess with the script.

[ccffan01]

Change the script of captain planet

[Calhoun07]

Actually, I am thinking more along the lines of Marvel's Retread Funnies, which ran in Crazy magazine. They would take the original art from a regular comic book story and put in new captions and balloons to make the comic book story something completely different, and funny. They could easilly take some of the cartoons they have and re-do soundtracks to them to make them something quite different and funny. Retread Toons. Heck, I'd watch if the writing was good!

[Shaggy]

I think Jhonen Vasquez should do SOMETHING for AS, whether it be Invader Zim (which I'd love to see, but won't happen. From what it looks, Nick doesn't like it, but it knows it has a niche audience), an adaptation of Johny the Homicidal Maniac, or hell, even Squee!

I'd also like to see Daria back, as well as Clerks, and a possible new run of Eek! The Cat.

And while I would like to see the Tick return as well (as someone mentioned earlier in the thread), I don't think it would happen, due to FOX's airing of the live-action series. But, who knows how long that's gonna last, right? (I enjoy the live-action series, but, again, it's a niche audience. Good for Cable, bad for Network).

[Eric Draven]

I would LOVE to see Ren & Stimpy on for a 1/2 hour of Adult Swim.. but Im not going to hold my breath. It would be TOO sweet to actually do :(

[sigh].. I can always hope though.. wonder why Ren & Stimpy hasnt been put on DVD yet?

"Im going to keep the 5 bucks!"

[spectre316]

a Ren and Stimpy DVD would be a gift from the heavens.

[Overkill of ASE]

S P A W N

[spaceghostc2c]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by calhoun07
[B]I'd get rid of Aqua Teen Hunger Force in a heart beat.

tell me about it-- that show really and udderly sucks!!!

[spaceghostc2c]

Originally posted by ccffan01
How about something like mystery science theatre 3000(non-animation) were they take cartoon movies and mess with the script.


-- yeah that would be really cool

[spectre316]

Originally posted by ccffan01
How about something like mystery science theatre 3000(non-animation) were they take cartoon movies and mess with the script.

That could be possible if they cut up the movie into 30 minute episodes. You know, like Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV... and so on and so on. I don't think an animated movie lasts that long, so the longest it could go up to would be IV.

[ccffan01]

I would love to see what they could do to land before time

[spectre316]

If they did Land Before Time, they could experiment with different songs and such.

It'd be better if they made fun of Land Before Time V: The Mysterious Island.

[seth1022]

:D I wish cartoon network. would talk to mr. joe cartoon and make a 30 min show. superfly.

[seth1022]

joe cartoon

[Sheamon]

Serial Experiments Lain and Key the Metal Idol would be 2 great choices. They're also in all likelyhood the 2 shows with the smallest chance so I won't get my hopes up about them.

Some of that animation that MTV used to have like Aeon Flux and the Maxx would be nice.

What I DON'T want to see is unedited Toonami stuff like Tenchi, Outlaw Star or DBZ.

[Calhoun07]

They need to leave Toonami on Toonami, I would agree with that sentiment.

I would actually like to see some more rejected animation shows that the major networks killed off becasue they couldn't pull down Simpsons like numbers. Not all of those sucked like Sammy, there were good ones out there that just need the right station and the right time zone.

[Zorakfan]

So, you wan NeoG Eva eh? Yet CN won't approve?

I have the solution.
http://www.kekkai.org/google/rants/bulmarei.jpg

...please don't kill me

[Evil Dr. Reef]

RRRRRRRAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! !!!
EVIL DR. REEF SMASH ZORAKFAN FOR DESECRATING EVA!!!!!!!!!!!
RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[Zorakfan]

Oh yeah? watch this.

http://www.big-big-truck.com/anime/hellocowboy.jpg

[Evil Dr. Reef]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE???????
*passes out*

[Zorakfan]

There there...

*fakes sympathy*

*type type type*

HOWDWA LIKE MY NEW AVATAR?

*psycho music*

[Evil Dr. Reef]

*sob*
What have you done to Spike?
*sob*

[Zorakfan]

CHiPS!
http://www.big-big-truck.com/bebop/PonchSpikeJon-jt.gif

[Evil Dr. Reef]

* Evil Dr. Reef would LIKE to make a responce, but he's...uhh...being taken away by some men in white coats right now... so I, 343 Guilty Spark, will be responding for him tonight.
By the way.... HELP ME STOP THE FLOOD!!!!!!!*

[Zorakfan]

*Zorakfan has entered Frenzy mode*
YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE MY WRATH, GUILTY SPARKS!
http://www.ops.dti.ne.jp/~somnium/bebop/garalley/spike.jpg

*pant, pant*

*Zorakfan drops from frenzy*

[Evil Dr. Reef]

*as 343 Guilty Spark*
IF you cooperate, I will endeavor in making your death as painless as possible!

[Dan]

I think it would be cool if they gave some time to indie cartoons, like a weekly showcase.

[Zorakfan]

Aw, hell no.
(Not for the faint of heart)

http://www.bootyproject.org/images/anime/otakon2001/full/dcp_1987.jpg

You've survived my brunt of attacks so far, but I still haven't whooped out the BIIIIG guns... *pant* *pant*

[Evil Dr. Reef]

*As 343 Guilty Spark*
Well, in that case, I will be forced to activate Halo and
wipe out all life in the galaxy able to sustain the Flood.

[Zorakfan]

I've got 2 golden images loaded into my revolver, but I'll save them for a later date...besides, even I have my limits when it comes to innocent bystanders.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

*As 343 Guilty Spark*
Bring it on, you human beeyotch. I am not vulnerable to your horrible, horrible warped pictures of Spike Spiegel.

[Zorakfan]

That's why I'm saving em for Dr. Reef when he gets back from the Cowboy-bebop rehab-ward.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

That's EVIL Dr. Reef. I didn't spend 7 years in EVIL college to just be called doctor, thank you very much...

[Zorakfan]

Touche

[Evil Dr. Reef]

What was that? FRENCH?!?!?!?!?!?
Stupid French! We give 'em a whole damn Disneyland, and they can't make a dime!!!

[Zorakfan]

Even purple assed baboons couldn't screw up a disneyworld!

[DR. BELCH]

Ever see Wicked City? Some very attractive nude lasses there, if you ignore the arachnid like-one with two rows of sharp teeth in her hobbledeegoo. Plus an old bugger who'd give Master Roshi a run for his money in the perverted department.

Still looking to see A.S. get some of Bill Plympton's more adult stuff, e.g. I Married A Strange Person....

Re: Disneyland and baboons--imagine I.R. Babbon running a theme park, and Red shows up with a scheme to pretend to get hurt on a ride and sue the place for millions...now that's comedy....

[Evil Dr. Reef]

There will be NO WAY in the nine levels of Hell Wicked City will ever be broadcast on Cartoon Network, or on any Cable TV channel ever in the entire time the Earth will exist. This is the closest thing to porn that you'd ever see in anime (with the exception of hentai, which is porn). You'd have better luck asking Toonami to air Tenchi Muyo without the "digital bathing suits" than to see 5 minutes of Wicked City on CN.

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Dan
I think it would be cool if they gave some time to indie cartoons, like a weekly showcase.

I also am a proponet of this idea. Personally, I would like to see TWO shows developed, or perhaps one show with a rotating theme each week. One would pick up where MTV Downloads left off and showcase the best of Internet animation, and the second would showcase the best of indy cartoons that have been making the rounds at animation festivals. Many of those never get any attention on TV, and Adult Swim would be the ideal place to let those toons roam free.

And lets keep this thread on topic, please. As much as I liked all the twisted pics of Spike, it's veering this thread off into something...um...bizzare? The only reason I don't split the posts off to a new thread is because I fear it would lead to useless replies and would ultimately have to be closed.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Zorakfan was just torturing me because he knows how much I hate to see the wonderful, glorious Cowboy Bebop warped in any way.

[Zorakfan]

You're gonna carry that weight.

[Calhoun07]

Oh, I know you guys were just having fun. I personally loved the Hello Cowboy pic! Some of those others...WOW, where did he find those! Maybe it could be a good thread to split off...bizzare Adult Swim pics!

[ZoRaKzBuDdY]

10 - (rotating baby blues and home movies)
1030 - brak show
1045 - sgc2c 7th season
11 - ATHF
1115 - Sealab 2021
1130 - HBAAL
1145 - old SGC2C
12 - Cowboy Bebop
1230(rotating Dr. Katz, Tick, Clerks, and other stuff)

[DJRed]

What's HBAAL?

[Joe Tully]

Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Which, unfortunately, won't be back until July.

[randomguy]

I can tell you what Adult Swim REALLY needs, more than any other accquisition. Pure and simple, the block needs an EXCLUSIVE show- something conceived for Adult Swim, originally shown on Adult Swim, something truly Adult, and something entirely new, not repeated. It should be developed in-house at Cartoon Network and premiere on Cartoon Network, ruling out Home Movies. In other words, it needs to be 100% fresh. It needs to be truly Adult, which rules out Williams Street shows. Don't get me wrong, I love Space Ghost and whatnot, but these shows aren't really adult- they're weird and have sex and drug references, but that doesn't make them mature (HM is definitely more "Adult" than, say, Sealab, in this regard). This show needs to have well-developed characters, specific plot threads, and ideally, would have both action and comedy. Finally, it should be given at least a somewhat decent budget, and a half-hour format (necessary for good progression of plot). It would be something people could point to and say "THIS is Adult Swim". In other words, it would be a flagship show, something AS kind of lacks right now. That's my two cents.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Wow. That was specific. Based on your description of the "ideal show", it sounds like you may have an idea in mind...

[randomguy]

Yeah I've kind of got a few ideas. I should animate a 15 minute pilot, send it in. Who knows, eh? Anyhow, I didn't mean to be quite so picky, but I really think the block needs a quintissential Adult Swim show.

[John-Paul]

DA-MOB!!!!!!!!!!

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

I think it would be nice if "Justice League" was on adult swim...that way the network wouldn't make a big deal if a certain episode was too violent or something. That way, we wouldn't have to worry about having another "Batman Beyond: Return Of The Joker" disaster.

[Killtacular]

Justice League is for children.

[Zorakfan]

So is Da-Mob. That's one of the worst shows I've ever had the displaesure of seeing. I'm afriad of the family channel froever between this, Angela whatsit, world's scariest places, and endless Olsen twins programming.

[randomguy]

Justice League is for children.

Yeah, no kidding. It's too bad there's no AS shows with that kind of budget. Could imagine if Home Movies was that well animated....mmm......

[Killtacular]

Eltingville Club could be a show with that kind of budget.

[randomguy]

I would love that. Other than Bebop, I feel AS's shows kinda get shortchanged by their budget. It would be great to see the actual animation aspect of animation get its due. Right now the comedy's all in the audio.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Justice League is for children.

For children my butt! This show is A BILLION TIMES more realistic then all the other stuff on Adult Swim...especially Sealab 2021. This show is far from a "kid" show...just because it's on the stupid Cartoon Network doesn't mean that it's "Kiddie" stuff. In fact I remember a time when my mom wouldn't let me watch superhero shows...because of the realisticness involved...the realistic violence...Baby Blues...just isn't like that...it's hilarious, but then again, it's also rediculous...the only reason it's an adult show is because it has sexual content...Justice League IS an adult show...to say otherwise would be like saying that "Smallville" is a kid show...and I take Justice League more seriously than that show! (Smallville, I mean)

[Gundam_Warrior]

I would only like the idea of one anime a year because I like to watch them puely unedited and uncut. I live in the UK however but will be in the states next week and will get to check out the adult swim so HOOHA! Clerks(new episodes) , Beavis & Butt-Head , Duckman, The Maxx, and maybe The Critic.

[randomguy]

I see your point, but I disagree. See the difference is all in the show's perception of itself. Sealab, to use your example, is indeed completely and utterly preposterous- but it knows it. Compare this to Justice League, where some of the most cornball lines and plots to ever grace a TV screen are presented with the utmost seriousness, and you can see where I'm going....

[Calhoun07]

I don't think Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, or Justice League are for children. I am sure kids out there love these shows, but they are also designed to be appreciated by adults.

[randomguy]

I'd agree with the two batman shows, but Superman and Justice League are just so overdone to me that's it's hard for me to take them seriously. S'just my inclination.

[DJRed]

Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion


For children my butt! This show is A BILLION TIMES more realistic then all the other stuff on Adult Swim...especially Sealab 2021. This show is far from a "kid" show...just because it's on the stupid Cartoon Network doesn't mean that it's "Kiddie" stuff.

Stupid cartoon Network?
You had my support at the begining but then ya just lost it.
Why in the hell is cartoon network stupid? You'd prefer Nickelodeon maybe? Or better yet the WB... yeah that'd be good..
first pokemon and the mummy followed by justice league.
Works perfectly....
sweet, sweet sarcasm.

[Psychobra]

You guys all have sweet comments. Too bad that Comedy central already airs Duckman and The Tick. Some more clerks would be good too.

[Naraht]

JLL...Justice League is a "children's show" just as Batman TAS, Superman TAS and Batman Beyond before it...

That's not to say it isn't intelegent, witty, and enjoyable to people of all ages.

Sealab...I don't see the apeal but some people really like it. However, from what I've seen of it, children really wouldn't get anything out of it...

If in order to be good, something has to be adult...then does that mean that the new Britney Spears movie is better than say, Snow White, because it's geared to a more adult audience?

Children's doesn't mean mindless crap....remember that...

[J_Baruka]

anyone remember that show? It should be on Adult Swim.

[Andy Mancini]

Here's something off-the-wall: how about showing "John Callahan's Quads!"? First off, at least thirteen eipsodes are already made and are currently showing on Teletoon in Canada. Secondly, Mr. Callahan is a reconized name due to his comic strip, autobiography, and the Nicktoon "Pelswick". Finally, judging by the clips I have seen from the Internet (I have yet to have seen a full episode due to the fact I in the US), it fits the "adult, slightly bizzare, almost "South Park" but much more intelligent" attitude that "Adult Swim" tries to project. I say that they at least give it a test run. What's the worst that could happen?

DJ Gir

[Calhoun07]

I think John Callahan is a very recognizable name. I had no idea that he did animation too. I'd love to see that. His comics are incredibly funny and very well done. I'd love to see that translated into animation. I'm all for such a show on Adult Swim. If not on AS, then where?

[Andy Mancini]

Is there any way to convince somebody important at Warner Brothers to make more "Freakazoid" episodes for Adult Swim? That show would fit in great. It'll never happen, but I can dream, can't I?

DJ Gir

[Morgan Sloat]

Freakazoid would not fit... At least IMHO it wouldn't.

[Mattashell]

What will happen to my beloved Ripping Friends? Will there ever be a home for them on Adult Swim now that Fox Kids seems to have given them the boot.

Could Ranger Smith possibly be developed into a series?

What about Bakshi's Malcom the Cockaroach from What a Cartoon Show?

Matta

And here's hoping Ralph Bakshi and John K. can find a future on AS.

[Mattashell]

Spicy City! I forgot about Spicy City!

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by randomguy
I see your point, but I disagree. See the difference is all in the show's perception of itself. Sealab, to use your example, is indeed completely and utterly preposterous- but it knows it. Compare this to Justice League, where some of the most cornball lines and plots to ever grace a TV screen are presented with the utmost seriousness, and you can see where I'm going....

I actually have no idea where you're going.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by naraht
JLL...Justice League is a "children's show" just as Batman TAS, Superman TAS and Batman Beyond before it...

That's not to say it isn't intelegent, witty, and enjoyable to people of all ages.

Sealab...I don't see the apeal but some people really like it. However, from what I've seen of it, children really wouldn't get anything out of it...

If in order to be good, something has to be adult...then does that mean that the new Britney Spears movie is better than say, Snow White, because it's geared to a more adult audience?

Children's doesn't mean mindless crap....remember that...

Just because it's a cartoon, and doesn't have bad words or whatever, doesn't mean it's a kid show...after all, compare the show to Looney Tunes...there's a Huge difference!

[randomguy]

It's a kid show because it's INTENDED for kids. It's true, kid's animation can be very valuable, and it doesn't nessecarily equal mindless crap. Think My Neighbor Totoro. But it is targeted and intended for children. That's the shows purpose. Compare this to Home Movies or Cowboy Bebop, which are animated and intended for adults.

[randomguy]

Just cause one calls it a childrens show doesn't mean it's not valuable, or that someone dislikes it. That just means it's primary audience is for children.

[Mattashell]

And bring back Cartoon Planet.
I'd like to see a replay of Brak Presents The Brak Show Starring Brak, which I missed most of the first time.

[Ban Sanbonmatsu]

ok ok ok...these are some great shows mentioned...but i have 3 words for you that im sure youve all forgotten, but will make you forget all about the other ideas...

"EEK! the Cat"

Admit it...everyone misses that show...and it would definitly be a nice substitute for home movies...man that show is gettin old...

[Mattashell]

Yes, I'm a big fan of Savage Steve Holland, but wouldn't you want to see a new more R rated show from him and bring Eek! to CN during "regular" hours?

[kachuke]

i didn't read through all the pages but i'd deft like to see gasaraki on adult swim

[Thundercleese]

Jhonny Bravo- A perfect show for adults and kid
Family Guy- This would be a perfect show for AS, this show is hilarious

[Jimmy Kustes]

Another thread for me to say what I always say, O Canada and Cartoon Planet. I think CN *might* be getting my point by now....

I should (should is a bad word) merge this thread with the other one. But I have been yelled at before for modding boards that aren't mine. I don't want to put anyone out of a job... :p

[Calhoun07]

I fully agree. Merging commencing!

[Jake]

This is just my opinion about Justice League. I've only seen one episode.

It may or may noy be for kids, but it certainly doesn't belong on Adult Swim. Even if it can entertain an older audience...I'm pretty sure it was writen with children in mind.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by Jake
This is just my opinion about Justice League. I've only seen one episode.

It may or may noy be for kids, but it certainly doesn't belong on Adult Swim. Even if it can entertain an older audience...I'm pretty sure it was written with children in mind.

The comic books sure weren't aimed for kids, the show's much too violent to be a kid show...it's realistic violence...nothing like Samurai Jack. Most of the shows on Adult Swim on the other hand, are completly rediculous!

[Z_E_R_O]

With Justice League, I would've liked for them to have some episodes lined up before it came on,
no? It's been on for a few months now, and they're always showing the Atlantis episodes. Enough
of that, things were just looking too good, IMO, for what's happening with it now. 3 billion dead, at
least the thought of three billion dead, that is violent? I didn't think so:rolleyes:. There is a dark tone
to some of the JLA comics, but I don't think there are billions of dead lying around. The comic,
darker & grittier, the show, slow and violent(that's the only way I can see it as being so far), but not
on Adult Swim!

JL should come on prime time, or Saturday mornings, something! It needs its' own slot as a show,
not part of a series of 'shows on a show', something.

I'd rather if a block is being dropped on me, I like the original type lineup, shows for the most part
that I hadn't seen, otherwise would not see or watch, or have came through outlets not available in
this television area. I want to be suprised by stuff I don't know about. Scare me to death for all I
car, it'll be good TV.

If shows must be added, to part of the line-up, it would have to be Lupin III. There's enough
episodes, and enough movies to spew it for a while. Lupin, while not being ultraviolet or anything, is
a predecessor to shows like OS & CB. Granted, it's overall mood is AS, IMO, but it is a smart
enough put together series, that it could even meet Toonami without much edit, but it's cool, see
some Lupin III, you'll know what I mean. I don't know if the show's been licensed. though.
Somebody may owneth the rightseth.

Another show, Gunsmith Cats, screams with an air of coolness. It's currently airing on Action! a few
times a week with a TV-14 rating, complete with the fu*k word and ****. Those ratings need to be
more universal, right? TV-14 can mean just about anything they feel at the moment.

Gasaraki! I heard that! Somebody probably thinks it copies another show, though:). I want a
block of animated vids while I'm at this game, lol. Not every week or anything, but videos with
animation that were not produced with any thought of Cartoon Network in the least.......

[dawnyoshi]

Personally, I think it sucks that Comedy Central does not have Bob and Margaret on anymore (or at a reasonable hour if it's still on). I LOVED that show, some of the best comedy I have ever seen. The Critic, Duckman, and Dilbert would be nice additions too. :D

[dawnyoshi]

The show isn't bad, if new episodes were made with AS in mind.

Now Samurai Jack WAS good...(prepare to hear Samuria Jack referred to as a real person) then they literally sliced open the show's stomach, strangled it with its intestines, intoxicated it with Cobra venom, tosses it off of Mount Everest, and lit fire to the show after having it doused in fresh gasoline for a full week. I LOVED those first 3 episodes, as it had older potential written ALL over it! Now they can't even show a lousy scratch without censoring red, or making EVERYTHING a robot. It sickens me.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

I think Justice League would work great on Adult Swim...I mean Popeye is on Adult Swim, and god knows it sure doesn't belong there!

[Jack]

I'm kinda hoping they'll keep Popeye on Adult Swim. Maybe if the CN censors see it as aimed more at adults they won't cause any more episodes to be delayed or changed.

I'd love it if they extended Adult Swim and added another half hour block of classic cartoons. Not the sort you would see on Bugs and Daffy, but the more "offensive" ones like Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs, Inki, the Private SNAFU war films, and things of that nature. I'm sure nobody would complain that those are the same cartoons they've seen a million times...


Jack :D

[Jake]

I would be so upset if Popeye stays. I hate it. For the record, I'm not an adult.

I see AS as a group of great cartoons that specify in a very narrow sense of humor. SG, ATHF, Sealab 2021, The Brak Show, Home Movies...When I first started watching AS about two months ago, I was so amazed at all these incredible shows, it was like what I've been looking for all along, I've been getting so painfully tired of The Simpsons etc. Then I hear that Popeye and some others that I certainly don't care for are being thrown into the mix. There's no way I'll watch it, I think they're some of the worst shows I've ever seen. I'm not an adult, is my opinion even valid? Well, I think the Adult in AS is to keep out kids for shows that aren't suitable for them, not so there can be older shows on that some adults enjoy. Hey, like I've said many times already, I'm not an adult. But I know that I LOVED what I've seen these past few months, and I'm definatley not happy with some of the changes. I've never watched much CN, but isn't it full of things like Popeye and stuff as it is? I really hope AS won't see Popeye(or others) in the future. I'm sure many...or all..of you disagree with me, but I'm just postin' how I feel.

By the way...it's not that I'm opposed to change, for example, I'm very interested in this Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law show.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Jake
I've never watched much CN, but isn't it full of things like Popeye and stuff as it is?
Nope, not recently anyway... It would have more of it had Adult Swim not replaced "Late Nite Black and White," though.


Jack :D

[Nitrowax]

I think they should put Gundam wing on AS man. cause that show ruled!

[stanteau]

GW was nor a good show by any means,god the plot changed so many times I lost count around episode 30.Woulda been great if it was 13 episodes.Get Gundam Zeta,there's a show.

I was thinking last night,why not cartoons for kids that don't have childish backgrounds.Like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or the Toxic Crusador,make new series faithful to the comic book/movie series.My personal pick would be Dragon,god that was a badass comic book turned into one horrible cartoon.If you ever have a chance check it out,it's gritty as hell.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Probably no one here but me has even seen the series, but I would KILL to see them put Descendants of the Dark (Yami no Matsuei) on Adult Swim. The thing that would probably scare off the most people is the level of gay content in it (especially Kazutaka Muraki's rather disturbing obsession with Tsuzuki Asato), but other than that, it's a great series. I kinda explained a little of it in my piece on why Botan uses an oar to fly, but it's a lot more complex than I wrote there. I just hope that when it's brought to the US, they don't screw up badly by giving them really irritating english voices. The original cast is absolutely stellar.

[Beat]

That robot thing really annoys the hell out of me. It's like there are no real people left. Odds are the Scottish guy has robotic guts too.

Get something that the public dosen't know that much about.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Originally posted by Beatdigga
That robot thing really annoys the hell out of me. It's like there are no real people left. Odds are the Scottish guy has robotic guts too.

Get something that the public dosen't know that much about.

If the robots were actual lifeforms, it'd be another story. Then Jack would be gory enough for AS.

[Nitrowax]

Ya i've been thinking of that alot. they should like twik the show alot and instead of robots put advandced human-ods or something like that...

[hyprlynx]

They should get the rights to Ranma 1/2 for AS Saturdays!

It was (and still might be) one of the most popular selling videos and comic books for an anime series in the US. They should show it uncut if its an AS series. If you've never seen the series you really really should check it out.. =)

[Moof]

Freakazoid!!! HUGBEES!!!
or Trigun

[Galaxia]

Freakazoid! I love that show! XD

"Aw nut bunnies!"

I'd also like to see Trigun, Evangelion, Ranma 1/2, and Clerks (Snoogans!)

[EmoKark]

Nadesico (unedited)
Lain
That spy show on MTV umm spy team, angents somthing I dont remeber but that show was funny.
umm any anime I havent see sounds good on asa

[Galaxia]

Spy Groove.

[Seafaring]

I think it would also be cool if they were to air Ranma 1/2, although I am more of a fan of the early seasons. I like the manga more though I think. I also think it would be kinda cool if they were to show Fushigi Yugi. Theres action in there. I wouldn't mind seeing Boogiepop Phantom on there either. I would like to see the unedited Gundam: 08th MS team on Adult Swim as well.

[Nitrowax]

I hate DVD's! thats all you can buy now-a-days darnit! Stuiped Bandi or whoever doesn't know how to make VHS viedo's. thats all i saw is damn DVD's , i never liked the 3D grapics put in an anime, i wish some anime where just plain anime and no fricking 3D crap!

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Whoooo......Just finished my first encounter with Furi Kuri, and I say THAT should go on AS for sure! A comedy by the company that made Evangelion, with writers from both versions of Revolutionary Girl Utena, and some of the artists from Angel Sanctuary and Kare Kano. It is THE most drug-trippy-confusing animes I've ever seen, but it's hilarious! Haruko's my favorite! Anyone who carries a Rickenbacker bass everywhere with her (even if she does clock people with it) is automatically cool in my book.

[VinceA]

Most anime is going to DVD only these days. Even the older non-3D stuff that you crave is probably going to come out on disc-only. The price of players has fallen dramatically over the past year or so (you can get one for about $70 now).

[stanteau]

FLCL,perfect?I'd give a big yes.Possibly the last truly amaizng series.

[Nitrowax]

DAMN DVDS!

[stanteau]

How can you possibly not like the DVD medium?Chapter jumps,extras,smaller storage space,better picture,sound,etc. a player doesn't even cost much anymore,you can get a nice 1 head DVD player for $110 nowadays.

[Nitrowax]

................. its still not fair for the VHS man, like its to 3D for me man...

[stanteau]

.......what do you mean 3D?The picture is simply clearer and doesn't degrade with watching.Do you mean digital painting?

[Nitrowax]

Anime and computer 3D stuff do not mix man. It just doesnt for me.

[bassist]

Originally posted by Nitrowax
Anime and computer 3D stuff do not mix man. It just doesnt for me.

Watch Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and then say it again...

CG combination doesn't work well a lot of the time (Blood: The Last Vampire, Metropolis) but if you watch D, you'll see it's possible to do it extremely, EXTREMELY well, even when the story is lacking.

-Big Ben

[VinceA]

Anime and computer 3D stuff do not mix man. It just doesnt for me.
I'm still a bit in a fog about this... what does 3D have to do with DVD? Mobile Suit Gundam is on DVD and it's about the farthest thing from 3D animation :)

[Beat]

I think he means opening menus.

[Nitrowax]

DVD mostly i guess uses 3D stuff on it... i guess... I JUST HATE 3D on ANIME.... because most stuff is coming out on DVD nowdays (d*mn technogilly) uhhh....... let me think of what i can say some more... :confused:

[Isondill]

Trigun. I love that show. Perosnally I see no reason why they couldn't air it U-N-C-U-T.

It's not bad...and Adult Swim is supposed to be Aimed at Adults anyway. So why cant they air a TV13 show uncut?

:)

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Originally posted by Anime Toonami
Trigun. I love that show. Perosnally I see no reason why they couldn't air it U-N-C-U-T.

It's not bad...and Adult Swim is supposed to be Aimed at Adults anyway. So why cant they air a TV13 show uncut?

:)

It's more complicated than that. When Pioneer originally offered the show to Cartoon Network, there was only Toonami at the time, and Trigun was to violent for that, so CN rejected it. Even if they now decided they wanted to air it on AS, Pioneer has retracted their offer, so it would mean a lot of red tape for CN to go though to get the show again, and apparently, they're just not willing to put up with it at this time.

[Jake]

Somebody probably already said this. My apologies. What are the chances Hellsing will come to ASA?