View Full Version : How Come Adult Swim Originals Don't Have Any Comic Tie-Ins???
All-Star 1.5
12-24-2004, 11:15 PM
I mean just about every other CN Original has had a shot a comic tie-in, and seeing as how comic books target 18-34 year olds; it just doesn't make since as to why there isn't a Venture Brothers, Aqua Teens, or Harvey Birdman tie-in comic out there especially considering that Futurama which is canceled still has a comic out and from what I hear it's selling okay. So how come there are no Adult Swim Originals with a comic book???
Would any of them even work in comic form, besides Venture Brothers? I mean how do you make a documentary filmed in real-time a comic?
Chad Bonin
12-24-2004, 11:22 PM
Well, they'd have to be DC/Vertigo (Vertigo is DC's imprint for mature-rated titles, and DC is owned by Time Warner who also owns all CN junk)... unless they just were somehow deemed non-mature.
Now, DC did launch a Space Ghost (if you consider that AS original) miniseries recently, with covers by Alex Ross (that guy Toonami interviewed). Issue 1 has sold out and is going to a second print, and Issue 2 just came out this week.
Totally different vibe from Coast 2 Coast, given that Thaddeus Bach was an intergalactic cop who was betrayed, his wife and not-yet-born child murdered... and sent off into space (presumed dead) only to land on a planet where a war technician accidentally killed everyone. They bond, he gets the power bands, throws on a hood, and seeks out vengeance as a space ghost...
VB could be a great comic book if done correctly. But as for the rest, would they really transfer to comic format that well?
livingfruitvirus
12-25-2004, 01:24 PM
There have been Coast to Coast comics from DC before. Remember?
CN will be airing an adaptation of the Boondocks comic book series soon. CN is really only limited to DC titles when it comes to comic books unless they were to go to a third party like Marvel (X-Men on Kids WB) to option an idea for show development, and even then it's often more trouble than its worth. I'm sort of surprised at AS even picking up Boondocks because it's a 3rd party show (Sony Pictures owns it), therefore CN can't make a lot of money off it.
I'd love to see a Venture Bros. comic myself.
Lord Dalek
12-25-2004, 02:34 PM
...with covers by Alex Ross (that guy Toonami interviewed)... Jeez, he's the artist behind Astro City, Marvels, and Kingdom Come, and all you can credit him is as being "that guy Toonami interviewed", how sad.
Chad Bonin
12-25-2004, 02:37 PM
Jeez, he's the artist behind Astro City, Marvels, and Kingdom Come, and all you can credit him is as being "that guy Toonami interviewed", how sad.He also just did some designs for an upcoming Legion of Doom revamp, and is doing the cover to DC Countdown based on Jim Lee's pencils.
But see, if I go that far into my comic book geekdom, non-comic readers wouldn't know who that is. I figure most people might have seen his interview on Toonami...
Carolina Red
12-25-2004, 03:06 PM
If they had comic tie-ins then there would be fewer story ideas because some have been taken by a comic book edition that doesn't get as great of an audience as the actual television product. Lots of great episode ideas for the Simpsons can't be used because they've been taken by comic books. If you're see any collection you'd know. The people behind these shows should stick to what they know.
Wanted
12-25-2004, 05:06 PM
Jeez, he's the artist behind Astro City, Marvels, and Kingdom Come, and all you can credit him is as being "that guy Toonami interviewed", how sad.Well, I wouldn't have known about him if I hadn't seen the Toonami interview. He probably thought that most people wouldn't, either.
BCVM22
12-25-2004, 05:08 PM
He also just did some designs for an upcoming Legion of Doom revamp, and is doing the cover to DC Countdown based on Jim Lee's pencils.
But see, if I go that far into my comic book geekdom, non-comic readers wouldn't know who that is. I figure most people might have seen his interview on Toonami...
Right. So, what you're saying is that your "comic book geekdom" is generally equal to whatever you can glean from the CBC forum.
Neeeeext.
Condiment King
12-25-2004, 05:21 PM
Most of the CN originals adapted to comics have been journeyman characters in the comic world, moving on from new format to new format. I don't think a "Cartoon Cartoons" adapation has made it past issue 20 without being revamped somehow. WB/DC doesn't put a whole lot of thought into the Johnny DC line other than that name properties based off shows like Cartoon Cartoons, Scooby Doo, The Batman, and Justice League Unlimited are going to grab kids ages 7-14ish's attention. Even if said writing of Justice League Unlimited and The Batman Strikes! is some of the most horrid in the comic industry.
Though Vertigo prints like Y - The Last Man have gained great popularity (including myself), they still don't touch the names of your Batman or Superman. Most adaptations are just for $$$ only.
DC's Space Ghost mini-series doesn't have the best writing either and I suspect that it will drop off after the much hyped #1. However, like Knux said, this series is based on the earlier incarnation and is in much the same style as other DC superhero titles. The Space Ghost Coast to Coast property was involved in two failed "Cartoon Cartoon" complimation projects before finally being erased from the current incarnation. That leads me to believe that the name is too foreign for the demographic it was aimed to or it just isn't as popular as other names featured.
For other Adult Swim adaptations to work, you'd be suggesting that WB/DC would be willing to take a giant leap of faith in its 18-34 non-comic readers audience that just isn't there. Plus, Vertigo is mostly if not all creator owned projects. You would be expecting a team to understand and take similar directions to the writers of these shows. IIRC, there are zero comedic books in the Vertigo/Wildstorm imprint. This entire genre hasn't even been tested to this demograph yet. Would the timing be there in a comic book? Would the jokes come off the right way?
Mugen
12-25-2004, 06:44 PM
CN will be airing an adaptation of the Boondocks comic book series soon. CN is really only limited to DC titles when it comes to comic books unless they were to go to a third party like Marvel (X-Men on Kids WB) to option an idea for show development, and even then it's often more trouble than its worth. I'm sort of surprised at AS even picking up Boondocks because it's a 3rd party show (Sony Pictures owns it), therefore CN can't make a lot of money off it.
Well, if Fox had picked it up, then it probably wouldn't have come to CN(I wonder what was the reason why Fox didn't pick it up?). Mike Lazzo loved the pilot, so I guess that's why they picked it up.
livingfruitvirus
12-25-2004, 08:04 PM
FOX had 5 animated pilots they commissioned (American Dad, Boondocks, Blue Aloha, The Phil Hendrie Show, and something by Jonathan Katz whose name escapes me right now) and they only planned to pick up one, which was American Dad. Thereby allowing all the other pilots for possible pickup at other networks, and since Boondocks was owned by Sony Pictures, it could be easily picked up by another station. Don't forget that AS will be airing encores of American Dad.
Chad Bonin
12-25-2004, 08:39 PM
Right. So, what you're saying is that your "comic book geekdom" is generally equal to whatever you can glean from the CBC forum.
Neeeeext.I show up there occassionally, but it's mostly gleaned from, ya know, working in a comic book store. We recently got a silver-age JLA poster by Ross (... I hate how he loves silver-age), I've got his Mythology book on a shelf, his cover of Justice League Adventures in my box, and was tempted to pick up the Unbreakable DVD due to his included art (well, the movie was kickass too).
Cyber E.
12-25-2004, 09:08 PM
Totally different vibe from Coast 2 CoastWhen you include the fact that the series is supposed to be following, or rather leading into, the 60s Hanna-Barbera cartoon, it probably should have a different vibe than that of the 90s parody series. =/
Lord Dalek
12-26-2004, 01:41 AM
Well, I wouldn't have known about him if I hadn't seen the Toonami interview. He probably thought that most people wouldn't, either.What planet are you from? Alex Ross is a household name in these parts.
Harley Quinn
12-26-2004, 03:25 AM
I show up there occassionally, but it's mostly gleaned from, ya know, working in a comic book store.
Burrrrrrrrn. I like. :)
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