Any word on when we're getting new episodes of Foster's? [Archive]

I.R Joey

11-28-2004, 03:23 PM

I don't know if anyone is familiar with how they do things at CN but in case someone is I'm just curious. My guess would probably be January for new episodes. I don't know if I can somehow summon Puffdaddy (Mr. McCrakin), but I'm not sure if even he knows how the network chooses to air the show.

So anyone know?

Tak Mazé

11-28-2004, 03:38 PM

By the looks of the shows animation, it shouldn't take long to make additional episodes. But I can't even guess as to when there will be more.

Zach Williams

11-28-2004, 05:31 PM

By the looks of the shows animation, it shouldn't take long to make additional episodes. But I can't even guess as to when there will be more.

Well, CN has ordered enough to air for awhile, and there are enough finished to air tight now. But, my guess would be sometime during the summer.

Wanted

11-28-2004, 06:40 PM

Next year, same time (most likely).

I.R Joey

11-28-2004, 10:11 PM

So we'll be cycling through the same 8 episodes for the better part of the year? Bummer.

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 04:36 AM

It's on about 5 times a day here >.< I can see this going the same way as Xiaolin Showdown, which was so overused in the UK that it just started getting rediculously repetitive. I'll probably wait until they announce new episodes of Fosters before I watch anymore because I don't want to get sick of it, it's a really entertaining show.

pebbles

11-29-2004, 05:48 AM

By the looks of the shows animation, it shouldn't take long to make additional episodes. But I can't even guess as to when there will be more.

Is there a problem with the show's animation? Aside from it being the most AWESOME animation on television?! Woohoo!

Anyway, yeah, when's it back?

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 06:00 AM

I was merely implying that it is in fact a Flash show which are notorious for being low budget and quick to make. Definately not the best animation on TV by a long shot, but the storyboard, acting and characters make up for that so it's an awesome show.

pebbles

11-29-2004, 06:08 AM

So, out of curiosity, what show do you reckon is better animated than Foster's?

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 06:26 AM

Ed Edd n Eddy of course. Various Disney cartoons and animated motion pictures too. Basically any show that isn't done using computer "tricks". Classic animation is so much better. But that doesn't mean Fosters is bad. It's done well for the obviously miniscule budget and it's my favorite toon at the moment.

pebbles

11-29-2004, 06:43 AM

EEnE can be real hit n miss. They cover up some real dodgy stuff with the boil on the lines. Some nice poses tho.
Foster's is more consistantly good.

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 06:46 AM

But compare 8 halfhour episodes in Fosters to over 100 15 minute episodes of Ed Edd n Eddy. Until they make new episodes of Fosters, you just cannot compare the two. The Eds have officially conquered CN's ratings.

pebbles

11-29-2004, 07:07 AM

Nah. Foster's is gonna wipe the floor with EEnE.

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 07:11 AM

11-29-2004, 10:56 AM

Guys, its just different styles. When Danny created the Eds, had already produced a series of shorts that were very avant garde, such as "Lupo the Butcher" (never seen such graphic stuff in animation before that). His style definately shows more personality via physical apperance. Its much closer to early European animation, where design elements such as line and weight are very important.

Craig's take on animation is much more streamline, and he does take risks though. When he worked on "Powerpuff Girls," the thick black lines were bold, graphic, and in-your-face. They were not dynamic as could be, but they took the level of traditional cartoon lines and make them stand out. With "Fosters," Craig messes with line quality again, adding the airbrush effect. Despite this, the computer aided animation has a very smooth flow with is distasteful for some. Personally, I like it...but I'm a graphic designer with a bias towards computers. Is it better than the "Eds"? No.

So my final conclusion is that both artists are taking the same risks with different tools in different styles. Personally, I think the visuals come second to the story. I know as a designer, that my design is only as good as the message/product it's working for. In both shows, I feel a good sense of child-like wonderment, something that reminds me of Schultz's "Peanuts" or the old "Our Gang" (little raskals) films. There has to be a solid foundation of charaters and the series are simply the discover of themseleves via the world they live in. I made a site dedicated to all of the network's shows, so you're not gonna get me to pick a favorite.

Killtacular

11-29-2004, 11:15 AM

EEnE can be real hit n miss. They cover up some real dodgy stuff with the boil on the lines. Some nice poses tho.
The poses in the EEnE Christmas special are just ridiculous. Doesn't get any prettier than that. Foster's animation is decent but I don't think anyone would be praising it if it were traditionally animated because it does not really do anything special. The only character with strong visual acting is Bloo, and that's because he's a one color shape making it easy to draw out strong exaggerated emotions. None of the other characters on Fosters are expressive, nor are they timed anywhere near as well as Bloo. Bloo is fast and snappy while the other characters are just average Flash characters that drift tween back and forth and never have any new animation.

Fosters is not even a Flash show because it is composited in After Effects. The characters just happen to have been drawn in Illustrator and then given poses in Flash.

So there is no comparison. On technical skill alone, the boarding in Ed Edd n Eddy runs circles around every single current cartoon on the planet. In terms of cartoony animation and eccentric poses, Ed Edd n Eddy is the finest looking thing since the original Ren and Stimpy.

As for whether Ed or Fosters will beat each other in the ratings, does it really matter? We already know Fosters is doing strong, and Eds do so well that two more seasons are coming. I don't see why they should compete. When the two shows can co-exist and lead the network to an overall boost in 6-11 ratings, we all win.

Tak Mazé

11-29-2004, 12:38 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, that I don't really care which one beats the other, so long as they both stay on air because I enjoy them both. I also said that you just can't compare the two, like what you guys just said. So I take it you've seen EEE Xmas screens or even footage then? Is that on the CN website already or is it just an early teaser they sent?
Never mind don't answer that cuz it's way off topic. Then again, the original topic for this thread doesn't really leave much room for discussion anyways.

Batman91

11-30-2004, 05:02 PM

I dont really like EE&E or the animation,I think it looks a bit sloppy.But I do like the flash animation and the writing in Fosters.

Mr. Insomnia

11-30-2004, 08:56 PM

Fosters has basically the same animation as Mucha Lucha or Atomic Betty. Now tell me that's good. Foster's purposely "mats" down it's storyboards to fit into the flash standards.

While Ed, Edd, n Eddy manages to keep fresh, lively, and silly animation that never gets old. While Fosters does not. EEE had a drastic change in animation making it 10X better, so maybe the same's for Fosters. But for now Ed, Edd, n' Eddy is as Matt said it, circling every cartoon around the globe.

Aquadementia

11-30-2004, 10:22 PM

So, I guess no one really knows when new Foster's episodes are coming?
Fosters has basically the same animation as Mucha Lucha or Atomic Betty. Now tell me that's good. Foster's purposely "mats" down it's storyboards to fit into the flash standards.

While Ed, Edd, n Eddy manages to keep fresh, lively, and silly animation that never gets old. While Fosters does not. EEE had a drastic change in animation making it 10X better, so maybe the same's for Fosters. But for now Ed, Edd, n' Eddy is as Matt said it, circling every cartoon around the globe.And people keep saying Celine Dion is the greatest singer in the world, maybe they have a point, but there are drunks singing karaoke out there I'd rather listen to.

Zach Williams

11-30-2004, 11:37 PM

Fosters has basically the same animation as Mucha Lucha or Atomic Betty. Now tell me that's good. Foster's purposely "mats" down it's storyboards to fit into the flash standards.

It's good! It may not be good animation, but the animation allows for great facial experssions, that what makes it great. !Mucha Lucha! and Atomic Betty's animation both suck, hard.

Tak Mazé

12-01-2004, 04:13 AM

Trouble with Flash is that it's like cheating with animation. Whereas Ed Edd n Eddy is all hand drawn frame by frame. These new age Flash shows have the same image, just stretched and posed in every episode which I consider to be a bad habit to get into. Note the difference in the animation quality between say, Tom & Jerry and Mucha Lucha. Although the picture in ML is clearer, it's because computers are doing all the hard work.

Wanted

12-01-2004, 08:06 AM

Oh, sure, guys, drag every show into the conversation. If you ask me, this got way off-topic.

Shows mentioned in this thread (not meant to be compared):
Ed, Edd n' Eddy
Mucha Lucha
Atomic Betty
Tom and JerryI don't know if anyone is familiar with how they do things at CN but in case someone is I'm just curious. My guess would probably be January for new episodes. I don't know if I can somehow summon Puffdaddy (Mr. McCrakin), but I'm not sure if even he knows how the network chooses to air the show.

So anyone know?Even then, there really was a minimal point asking three months after the show had premiered. You don't need to know this, excuse me, this early.

Tak Mazé

12-01-2004, 08:28 AM

Well these forums are for discussion yes? I don't see any way that the subject for this topic could give any form of discussion.

pebbles

12-01-2004, 09:20 AM

I think it's nice that it developed organically. If anyone wants to bring it back on-topic, they're perfectly welcome to do so. The question is still there. Sometimes it's more interesting to see where a topic leads, rather than forcing everyone to stick to the original subject.

Aquadementia

12-01-2004, 11:20 AM

Well these forums are for discussion yes? I don't see any way that the subject for this topic could give any form of discussion.
There is nothing wrong with asking a question that should have a definite answer. In this case the information isn't generally known but there is some chance that someone does know something. So it turns out that no one did, but it didn't hurt to ask. I was a bit curious myself.
And if there is nothing to discuss, why did you post to this thread 9 times, so far?

Added:

Never mind, I guess my own post were off topic too.

Killtacular

12-01-2004, 12:24 PM

Trouble with Flash is that it's like cheating with animation.
No, that's the trouble with poorly managed animation in general. Flash's recyclable assets don't HAVE to be used and if a company wanted they could just redraw every frame. What's the bigger crime though? Reusing a symbol of someone's face or boarding your show with the exact same poses and angles as you have used in previous weeks (like The Simpsons or the later episodes of Dexter's Lab)?

Tak Mazé

12-01-2004, 01:06 PM

Basically, compare poses between a Flash show, and a traditional one. The angles, poses and general animation run a lot better in my opinion.

12-01-2004, 01:23 PM

Apples and oranges...different styles, different people. I don't think one is better. I know a lot of hand-drawn shows from the 80's that were very poor. It seems the arguement revolves around still-frame poses. I still believe a story is the true foundation of a cartoon. If you can close your eyes and like a show, then the animation is icing on the cake.

Killtacular

12-01-2004, 01:26 PM

Basically, compare poses between a Flash show, and a traditional one.
Why should I do that? Both shows have storyboarders. If the storyboarders on a Flash show aren't going for expressive poses or dynamic angles, the problem isn't Flash but just uninspired storyboarding.

Conan-san

12-01-2004, 02:03 PM

Nah. The Eds will always be numero uno out of the Cartoon Cartoons. But I would like a senior member or 2 to give their verdict. But right now, with only 8 episodes of Fosters, the Eds currently rule the roost and I doubt Fosters will take over for a long time yet.
Leme throw in my boot. EEE is the most BORING SHOW EVER. Right next to the Cramp Twins. And I'll say this much, 8 eps of genuine funny vs 100 eps of bull**** dun make no arugment. Quality ova quantiy.

Killtacular

12-01-2004, 02:11 PM

Leme throw in my boot. EEE is the most BORING SHOW EVER. Right next to the Cramp Twins. And I'll say this much, 8 eps of genuine funny vs 100 eps of bull**** dun make no arugment. Quality ova quantiy.
Yet people defend anime with the same argument...? "Yeah I know this anime sucks but watch it 30 episodes later it becomes really amazing!!!"

In Ed Edd n Eddy's case it just has 13 really lame episodes at the start of the series, 13 okay episodes (season 2), 13 good episodes, and 13 GREAT episodes. And the Christmas special is double super great.

Mugen

12-01-2004, 03:01 PM

In Ed Edd n Eddy's case it just has 13 really lame episodes at the start of the series, 13 okay episodes (season 2), 13 good episodes, and 13 GREAT episodes. And the Christmas special is double super great.
I have to agree with you there. The Christmas Special looks great. Imagine if Ed Edd n Eddy had a theatrical movie. I guess it would be triple super great?

Killtacular

12-01-2004, 03:13 PM

I have to agree with you there. The Christmas Special looks great. Imagine if Ed Edd n Eddy had a theatrical movie. I guess it would be triple super great?
Ed Edd n Eddy is better suited as a theatrical short than a movie.

I.R Joey

12-01-2004, 03:30 PM

I think it's safe to say that both shows have nicely expresionate body and facial gestures. Both have some pretty amusing drawings in them.

Going back to Foster's T.VTome has the names of all the later 1st season eps, but no air date.

Mugen

12-01-2004, 03:52 PM

Ed Edd n Eddy is better suited as a theatrical short than a movie.
That is true.

Tak Mazé

12-01-2004, 05:14 PM

Leme throw in my boot. EEE is the most BORING SHOW EVER. Right next to the Cramp Twins. And I'll say this much, 8 eps of genuine funny vs 100 eps of bull**** dun make no arugment. Quality ova quantiy.Whatever dude... CN's ratings say differently.

And yeah, Ed Edd n Eddy wouldn't make a good movie. The plot is a little too confined.

CNfan

12-01-2004, 10:08 PM

Back to the original question posed.....3 new episodes will air in January, then 4 more in March. :)

I.R Joey

12-02-2004, 01:10 AM

Back to the original question posed.....3 new episodes will air in January, then 4 more in March. :)
Thank you, that's really what I wanted to know.

Tak Mazé

12-02-2004, 05:25 AM

Back to the original question posed.....3 new episodes will air in January, then 4 more in March. :)
Do they have names yet? And where does the information come from?

CNfan

12-03-2004, 10:16 PM

They do have names. Info comes from "a friend". It's correct. If I'm wrong you can cut me down later. Until then, enjoy the eps. ;)

TheGLIVEN

12-04-2004, 09:02 AM

Sometimes CN tries to get more ratings, and see if a show is really popular, and keep it off of new episodes for a while. It's sort of evil but CN will probably start up again in Janurary.

ktoriyama

12-04-2004, 01:16 PM

Yet people defend anime with the same argument...? "Yeah I know this anime sucks but watch it 30 episodes later it becomes really amazing!!!"

In Ed Edd n Eddy's case it just has 13 really lame episodes at the start of the series, 13 okay episodes (season 2), 13 good episodes, and 13 GREAT episodes. And the Christmas special is double super great.
I couldn't agree more. As for the names of the eps, check out the fosters page on CN website. Go to it and click on the Foster's icon under the main menu. SHould be self explanitory from there on.

I.R Joey

12-05-2004, 02:18 AM

Here we go. Straight from T.V tome. Not sure if they have spoilers but advance at your own discretion.

Season 2

11.2-1 Partying Is Such Sweet Soiree (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-354587/)12.2-2 Sight For Sore Eyes / Everyone Knows It's Bendy (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-372421/)13.2-3 The Big Leblooski (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370351/)14.2-4 Where There's a Wilt There's a Way (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370352/)15.2-5 Bye Bye Nerdy (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370353/)16.2-6 Cookie Dough (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370354/)17.2-7 Frankie My Dear... (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370355/)18.2-8 Bloo with Envy (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370356/)19.2-9 Squeakerboxx (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-28101/epid-370357/)

Johnny Cakes

12-05-2004, 01:18 PM

Awesome, I love McCracken's Big Lebowski references in Power Puff Girls, I hope that this episode is another parody like the episode where Ms. Bellum was kidnapped.

Midnite Flasher

12-07-2004, 04:39 PM

Not sure about air dates, but CN has picked up Fosters for a couple more seasons for a total of four 13 episode seasons. When they choose to air them is up to them.

You guys are too funny. I don't know where you all get your info or terminology from, but it's really funny to read. "...'Matts' down it's sotryboards...'"? Some of the logic is awsome as well. I think Takashi said that feature animation is better than Fosters? Well I sure as well would hope so since they have 3 or more years and almost 240 x the budget as your average TV cartoon. If Fosters, or any TV cartoon for that matter, had better animation than a Feature, I'd have to seriously wonder where all that money was going.

And comparing Fosters to EE&E is hard to do. The only thing they really have in common is that they are both on TV. The styles between the two shows are completely different. When I say "style" I don't just mean character design, but writing, and show premise as well. I don't know how well it would do as a feature. Personally, I think seeing those characters 30 feet tall with a 2 foot wide boiling line would give me motion sickness. But thats just me.
If you're going to compair Fosters to any other show, it should be shows like the Flintstones. They reused animation all the time, and the characters just stood there for half the show just talking. But they were well writen and the animation was ecconomized. Not saying Fosters is as good as the Flintstones, but that is a much better comparison than EE&E.

Sorry, had to drag another show into the mix. :D

bigddan11

12-08-2004, 05:43 PM

CN likes to take 1/2 season breaks and then run the remaining season together. If they do that with Foster's, then you will get new episodes in January and February or February and March, but they will not usually divide them up to be every other month. With MEGAS they aired 7, repeated the 7, aired the next 6, and then went into season 2. We'll have to wait and see what they do with Foster's though.

I.R Joey

12-22-2004, 06:17 PM

Just saw an ad on Nick that said we were getting new eps this winter. Seemed to be a weird commercial where people were blowing up balloons, and unwrapping presents. Anyway, I think it might even be this month, if not then it should be in January.

Someone want to check?

Super Leviathan

01-01-2005, 10:34 PM

To Be A Little Off Topic (But Not That Much) I wonder if Foster's will catch on as much as the Powerpuff Girls did.

I mean, I wanna squeeze a Mac doll, darn it.

Anyway, The Majority of the Cartoon Cartoons (Ed, Edd, and Eddy included) get High Ratings, but their presence in Merchandising is nihl to nonexistant, Especially not as part of an ensemble. Even Ed, Edd, and Eddy have yet to get a DVD of their own (Only those Ensemble Cartoon Network DVD's), yet they've been on the Network since 1999.