Lost "The Moth" Talkback (Spoilers)

[Fone Bone]

The word Lost has taken a personal meaning for me today, but I still have responsibilites.

Lost "The Moth"

From the TV Guide description:

A cave-in traps Jack, whose life hinges on a rescue mission led by Charlie, shaky from drug withdrawal and haunted by memories of his similarly addicted brother (Neil Hopkins). Another plot concerns a radio SOS by Sayid that's strangely thwarted.

Comments?

[Hatter]

Co-written by Paul Dini! Alright.

Good episode. Dom is a great actor, so his flashback scenes were pretty well-done, if not a bit cliche. The signal triangulation subplot was interesting, especially that someone is seemingly trying to thwart it...
I'm really liking the interaction between Charlie and Locke. And Sawyer continues to reveal layers to his character. Next week seems to focus on him, so hopefully he won't be killed off.

PS. Great idea, Boone, leaving the transmitter with the biggest bimbo on the island. At least she actually remembered to react.

[silverwings]

Ah! Too many good episodes... not used to plot.... :D

I love this show. Both Charlie and Sawyer got huge boosts of character development.

I wonder who knocked out Sayid? It looks like he's back with the group next episode so it knocked out my temporary theory that it was the french lady... so I think it's Sawyer. Because Sawyer is teh evil. :evil:

I really hope Sawyer has an amazing backstory next episode, for justification for his actions. He is truly a pitiful man...

[Fone Bone]

I doubt it was Sawyer who knocked out Sayid. It MIGHT have been Locke. Just sayin' he was the only one unaccounted for and all three rockets were set off. If it WAS Sawyer that's a pretty neat trick setting off a rocket when you're not even there. It still could be since next episode is a Sawyer focus and THAT would definately add fuel to the fire.

A really good episode. I love the analogies with nature on this show. Locke is turning out to be a favorite character even if I don't completely trust him.

Man, everyone who was stranded on the island each got stranded at the worst possible times in their lives. (Except of course Locke and possibly Kate.) Dominic Monaghan is a great actor. I was feelin' for the dude. The look at the end said he was finally free.

I'm loving this show. Good job Mr. Dini. ****1/2.

[Caffeine King]

I thought this episode was good but I dunno I guess it lagged a little so I gave it *** 1/2 :sweat:

I wonder who is was that knocked Sayid out?

What is really annoying me is how they only show those choice few survivors and the rest are just in the background!

Do they even use the same extras or do they just get new ones to play the other survivors? (I wouldn't be able to tell but still it'd be cheap.)

They better kill off most of them because it's annoying how they're just there and they're irrelevant to everything and it's like nothing effects them but just the survivors that we see. :shrug:

[Eddie G.]

There is something up with Locke. I think he might be God.

Anyway best new show. The flashbacks were cool, cliche story, original take. The rest of the episode was fun and interesting.

[Kathy Kane]

This was the most uplifting episode I've seen! I loved it!
I think Sawyer's story is next week, he is such a jerk!:mad: I bet he KO'ed Sayed!
Charlie and the moth story were so true. I love this Show!!

[Fone Bone]

There is something up with Locke. I think he might be God.
.You know now that you mention it that seems like a strong possibility. I was getting a Joan of Arcadia vibe. (Great show by the way. There should be talkbacks for it here.)

[MingyMingyJongo]

I don't think it's safe to say Sawyer DEFINITELY didn't knock out Sayid. While I very much doubt it was, Sawyer wasn't SHOWN launching the rocket. So we can't rule out the possibility that Sawyer got someone else to launch the rocket and such. Incredibly unlikely, but you can't rule it out just yet.

[Fone Bone]

I don't think it's safe to say Sawyer DEFINITELY didn't knock out Sayid. While I very much doubt it was, Sawyer wasn't SHOWN launching the rocket. So we can't rule out the possibility that Sawyer got someone else to launch the rocket and such. Incredibly unlikely, but you can't rule it out just yet.That is VERY true. It strikes me as unlikely but I didn't rule it out. I didn't post that theory because I couldn't think of who he could have possibly gotten to launch the rocket (Locke maybe?). But the thought definately occured to me.

[MAXIMUS]

I don't think there's any doubt it isn't Locke. He knows that island healed him and fears that if they somehow manage to get off, he feels like he will go back to being a nobody and a cripple when he could be a very valuable person if he stays.

[Fone Bone]

I don't think there's any doubt it isn't Locke. He knows that island healed him and fears that if they somehow manage to get off, he feels like he will go back to being a nobody and a cripple when he could be a very valuable person if he stays.Are you saying then that it was Locke who punched Sayid? That is a kind of scary thought.

[MAXIMUS]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Everyone wants to get off the island, and Sawyer is just going to be the scapegoat, cuz everyone thinks he's got nothing left in the world, but I think there's more to him then that. I think Locke would even kill to stay on that island.

[silverwings]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Everyone wants to get off the island, and Sawyer is just going to be the scapegoat, cuz everyone thinks he's got nothing left in the world, but I think there's more to him then that. I think Locke would even kill to stay on that island.
Playing Devil's advocate:

How did Locke KNOW that Sayid was there? He never knew of the plan to do the transmitter. Who told him?

Yeah, I don't think it was Locke. Nor do I think it was Sawyer (who I think we'll find is less of a jerk next wednesday). I think it was either a) the French Woman or someone from the original crash or b) another survivor who we haven't met yet.

[Fone Bone]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Everyone wants to get off the island, and Sawyer is just going to be the scapegoat, cuz everyone thinks he's got nothing left in the world, but I think there's more to him then that. I think Locke would even kill to stay on that island.It is definately plausible and something I raised a few weeks ago. Locke has had quite a few philosophical moments but also quite a few creepy moments (The orange peel in his mouth, the look he gave Micheal and his son in the second or third episode, imagining he has a relationship with a 900 operator.)

[Dalamar13]

This is the only show I look forward to anymore.

A very good episode.

Locke is without a doubt a madman but I seriously doubt he is the one who knocked Sayed out, same goes for Sawyer. There is no way he could get to where Sayed was that quick. I think it must be one of the spooky inhabitants of the island.

Anyway since this is my first Lost talkback I am gonna bring up some stuff from the earlier episodes.

What was up with the Polar Bear?

Why didn't the "monster" kill Locke when he encountered it?

Why hasn't Locke talked about it with anyone?

Where is Jack's father's body?

Is the Korean man a mobster?

umm..that is all for now I guess.

I like every character on this show with the exception of Kate. I find her greatly annoying. I always find the female love intrest annoing because their reaction is predictible. Seriously folks, you've been on the island for a handful of days and she is in love with Jack? I can only hope she will be killed off soon, though that is not likely to happen.

And have they all forgotten she's a murderer?!?

Sheesh


Otherwise this show rocks.

P.S. The fat guy is hilarious.

[MovieGuy]

And have they all forgotten she's a murderer?!?

Sheesh.
No one knows what she did yet. But, if she was a murderer, it would probably be in a self-defense kind-of-murder way or something.

[murmur]

Maximus is probably right. My g/f pointed out the same thing to me when we were watching and I think it's the most likely possibility. We've also came up with another theory about the show in general which would explain Locke's transformation. Possible spoiler:

The island turns your dreams, good or bad, into reality. Locke, who was but a sadsack, still deluded himself into believing he was a supreme outdoorsman, which he now is. Charlie always longed for his music, inner peace, and most of all a big brother who cared and Locke helped him get all three. Jack, who is constantly haunted by the mysterious passing of his father saw him as a ghost, and only through immense psychological struggle shook the visions, though his story remains as unresolved as his issues. The Korean woman (forgot her name) always lived with the fear that her husband would let her father's world of murder and control consume him and now he has become a far more violent and controlling man (he was never as bad with her in the flashbacks as he has been at the island). Sayeed believed that he could establish communication no matter what the odds and he did, despite every possible set-up for things going wrong with the flares (too bad he didn't focus on what would happen once he got the signal!)

Anyway, it's all a theory, but well supported...

BTW, I didn't discover the show until the third ep. Anyone know when and if the first two will air again?

[Fone Bone]

Maximus is probably right. My g/f pointed out the same thing to me when we were watching and I think it's the most likely possibility. We've also came up with another theory about the show in general which would explain Locke's transformation. Possible spoiler:

The island turns your dreams, good or bad, into reality. Locke, who was but a sadsack, still deluded himself into believing he was a supreme outdoorsman, which he now is. Charlie always longed for his music, inner peace, and most of all a big brother who cared and Locke helped him get all three. Jack, who is constantly haunted by the mysterious passing of his father saw him as a ghost, and only through immense psychological struggle shook the visions, though his story remains as unresolved as his issues. The Korean woman (forgot her name) always lived with the fear that her husband would let her father's world of murder and control consume him and now he has become a far more violent and controlling man (he was never as bad with her in the flashbacks as he has been at the island). Sayeed believed that he could establish communication no matter what the odds and he did, despite every possible set-up for things going wrong with the flares (too bad he didn't focus on what would happen once he got the signal!)

Anyway, it's all a theory, but well supported...

BTW, I didn't discover the show until the third ep. Anyone know when and if the first two will air again?I'd imagine after November sweeps.

murmur yours, Maximus's and my theory (face it, I first raised the possibility of why Locke would sabotage efforts to leave the island a couple of weeks ago) :p is so great I will be disappointed if it doesn't turn out that way.:anime:

[Icer]

I just watched all 7 episodes over the last 2 days.

Great show.

I'm really interested in who hit Sayid.

Could have been Locke, Sawyer, Pregnant lady, French lady, any number of possibilities.

This ep coming up should be good, since we finally learn about Sawyer

[Martianinvader]

Good theory, Fone Bone, but I think that [SPOILER]Jack's dad's body is missing because his dad was reanimated by something on the island![\SPOILER]

....Huh? How'd that happen? Oh well, too late, it's out.