View Full Version : Do ghosts and monsters relly excist in the real world?
Jarmyn
10-30-2004, 01:49 PM
Here is a Halloween question for everyone, Do ghosts and monsters relly excist in the real world? Just becuse no one has ever seen one, doesn't mean they aren't real.
HumanoidTyphoon
10-30-2004, 02:07 PM
Yes, and a number of them live under my bed. :eek:
Kury Wagner
10-30-2004, 02:10 PM
Uh, I believe in ghosts, and well, there are so many species of animals that who knows, maybe they're what our ancestors thought of as monsters. I love mythology, and all things mystical. So yeah, I do believe in all of that crazy stuff. Magic, ghosts, etc. :ack:
Phantasm
10-30-2004, 02:16 PM
Yes.Yes they do. I can tell you very confidently so having encountered one myself.:)
See about 3 years ago, my family and I went to visit my maternal grandparents for winter vacations. Now as a kid, my mom's first house was ruined in a flood, so her family had to move into another one, not so far away. This time round, my cousins bombarded me with stories about this ghost that resides in that abandoned house. In fact one of them said the ghost has a crush on her! She me about incidents where she would be walking around in the house when flowers would be thrown at her!
I scoffed at this and she dared me to came along to the place with her. It is a pretty much decent house. Nothing 'spooky' about it other than the fact that it comprises of nothing except a few broken windows and blank walls with paint peeling off them. So at the entrance of the gate her and my other cousins told me that in order for the ghost to get accustomed to me, I'd have to greet it loudly upon setting foot on the soil. Otherwise, it may start retaliating my presence by throwing rocks and pebbles at me. So I did what was told and entered. In the main hall, there was a small piece of paper with holy verses written on it, stuck to the wall by my overly religious grandad in an attempt to rid the place of the resident ghost. They told me that if we take it out, weird stuff happen.
We walked through the barran place, I fascinated by my mom'schildhood resisdence.We went out into teh enormous garden with apple trees everywhere. We climbed and feasted.After hours of basking in the feeble sunlight peaking out through the grey clouds overhead, we headed back inside and into the hall. My cousin decided she didn't want me to leave without experiencing the ghost. So she boldly went and tore the piece of paper away from the wall. Instantly, a small whirlwind occured right there, twirling a what little leaves there where on the floor. Terrified but satisfied she stuck it back. Then we got outside imeadiately only to be pelted with pebbles!!!It was so scary, they were shooting at us apparently from NO where!! We ran towards the gate where my cousin in front of me shrieked "DON'T DO THAT!" Startled, I said I didn't do anything. She said something just poked her. Terrified we ran back home.
So yeah...that's my 'supernatural ' experience.:shrug:
Well, that depends on one's definition of "monster". I've encountered seeral members of the species homo-sapiens who through virtue of thier actions most definitely qualify as monsters.
As for monsters of the mythical sort, as well as other supernatural entities, I, like so many others before me like to fall back on the old Shakespearian addage, "There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies."
As human beings we have a very limited perspective on things, and are often so preoccupied with our own little lives, we rarely pay heed to what goes on arund us. Truly amazing things happen around us all the time, of both a natural and supernatural persuasion, all we need to do is actually pay attention.
Youko Recca
10-30-2004, 02:45 PM
I myself am a monster. Definition 1b.
Kury Wagner
10-30-2004, 02:49 PM
I myself am a monster. Definition 1b.
I think most of us knew that. . . :p
Mynd Hed
10-30-2004, 03:00 PM
I'm not going to claim this was truly supernatural-- it could be a coincidence-- but it does make a good story. In high school when I was driving a couple of guys to a church retreat outside of town, I got a flat tire. We pulled over to change it, but the thing is that this tire had not been removed from the truck since my father first bought it maybe six or seven years before, so the lug nuts were pretty well fused. We managed to get all but one off, but MAN, this last one was being stubborn. We had four strong high school guys all combining their efforts on the wrench for about twenty minutes, and it still wouldn't budge.
It was getting late and we were all getting pretty frustrated at that point, so to lighten the mood, I pulled out my cross and bellowed in my best southern preacher impersonation, "Demon, by the pow'r of Jaysus Ah COMMAND you to let loose this lug nut!" Just as I was finishing my sentence, the guy who was taking his turn with the wrench gave it a one-handed yank, not even putting his weight on it, and that lug nut came unstuck just as easy as you could want.
I've found the same cross has good results with jar lids, too. (-:
EJill34
10-30-2004, 03:08 PM
I don't know any ghosts but I do know a monster.
His name is Abe Lincoln.
And he's coming for you.
Caffeine King
10-30-2004, 04:50 PM
Monsters as in what?
As for ghosts I guess that they exist.
Hordesman
10-30-2004, 05:28 PM
I don't know any ghosts but I do know a monster.
His name is Abe Lincoln.
And he's coming for you.
How about he settles for the people who ruined his political party?:evil:
As for ghosts and monsters and all... You do realize there's a whole paranormal tourism industry now. Geez, look at the Travel Channel. Even when it's not Halloween they have shows on haunted inns and Vegas ghosts and creatures. And before that, people used slow exposure time to sell photographs that appeared to have shadowy ghosts alongside the living sitters. I see too much being sold and too little being investigated to believe in ghosts anymore. It's worth checking out one of Joe Nickell's books.
Elven Moon
10-30-2004, 07:59 PM
If they do exist, it would have to be proven to me.
Beguiled
10-30-2004, 08:05 PM
Well once I was getting in bed and my door was open and about a minute after I turned my light off I saw a bright white glowing thing that looked strangely like a person walk down the hall outside my door. I dunno, maybe I'm crazy and I was just tired, but it did look like some form of ghost. :shrug: I'm not sure. I've never had any weird things happen aside from that maybe they do, maybe they don't.
Romanesque
10-30-2004, 08:30 PM
If they do exist, it would have to be proven to me.
Part of the problem with these things is, I suppose, what does one accept as proof, really?
"Ghosts" aren't really well defined, which presents one problem. They amount to a wide collection of unusual phenomena, which, for all we know, may be completely unrelated.
Monsters are even worse. What is a "monster"? More specifically, what counts as a monster in a modern world where any creature, once discovered, is labelled and no longer fodder for monster stories?
--Romey
Punisher
10-30-2004, 08:43 PM
I don't really believe in ghosts, I do have a few books on them but they aren't enough to convince me. Most occurences with ghosts seem to be mere coincidences.
As for monsters, I know plenty. Rich spoiled brats who insult you in a slick way, seem to have all the luck in the world, and teacher love em. I have gotten into a fight with a few of them. They're all talk. No muscle.
Also, I guess you could quite a few people monsters while driving on a highway during rush hour...
HumanoidTyphoon
10-30-2004, 08:53 PM
My mother just said she saw a ghost in the kitchen.o_O When no one else was in there.
I remember seeing ghosts and such as a kid they were in the basement usually. I'm more inclined to believe it was our imaginations. :shrug:
Kury Wagner
10-30-2004, 08:57 PM
When my grandma died in 2002, one of my aunts swore that when she was drinking her coffee, on that same morning that my grandma died, that someone was in the room with her. And that was right before my aunt received the call saying that my grandma had died. o_0 And my sister claims to have had a ghostly encounter once before too.
wrenchien
10-30-2004, 10:22 PM
you tell me.
until 9 / 11 i thought chupacabras really were the scariest in the world.
and until this year's high prices and low economy.... i thought it wouldn't be anyone who was a part of a party ... celebrating elephants.
... mmm , elephants who are democratic. mmm....
Kury Wagner
10-30-2004, 10:24 PM
you tell me.
until 9 / 11 i thought chupacabras really were the scariest in the world.
and until this year's high prices and low economy.... i thought it wouldn't be anyone who was a part of a party ... celebrating elephants.
... mmm , elephants who are democratic. mmm....
Heh, while I'm a democrat, I'd rather be an elephant than a jackass. :gir: (Go Nater!)
Kurtman
10-30-2004, 10:28 PM
Ghosts sure do. I have been to the Whaley House before. There ARE ghost pictures and EVP recordings on the internet for proof. I'm not sure about monsters,though.
Kenshin
10-30-2004, 10:37 PM
my dad lived in a house when he was a kid that was almost 200 years old and everybody who has ever enetered that house says their is a ghost in thier, my dad and uncle have seen it.
Czar Gato
10-31-2004, 12:11 AM
I believe in ghosts, although I think most cases of "haunted" phenomena are really just extensions of the average person's overactive imagination. Same thing with monsters, although I think many are just undiscovered species.
ToOn~g@l
10-31-2004, 12:21 AM
Oh yes I do believe in ghosts. A few years back my high school softball team went up to this old road in the mountains and stopped our cars and and turned off the lights and the engine in this one tunnel. Everything was still for a moment until the car suddenly started moving by itself, it was freaky. Afterwards we went back home and looked over our cars, there were hand prints that were not there before we started the journey and it was freaky.
A few weeks later I was told of what happened up there about fifty or so years ago. A group of school children were riding in a bus heading to an old mining town called Cripple Creek (now a small casino town) The walls caved in on them killing everyone aboard. I guess that was their way of telling us to get out of that tunnel before it caved in.
As for monsters, I kinda believe in the loch ness monster, but if someone really proves it exists then I will really believe.
Jarmyn
10-31-2004, 01:04 AM
"Ghosts" aren't really well defined, which presents one problem. They amount to a wide collection of unusual phenomena, which, for all we know, may be completely unrelated.
Monsters are even worse. What is a "monster"? More specifically, what counts as a monster in a modern world where any creature, once discovered, is labelled and no longer fodder for monster stories?
--Romey vampires, demons, werewolfs, witchs, zombies, ghouls, goblins, specters, wraiths, poltergeists, golems, phantoms, gargoyles, germlins, aliens, minotaurs, gorgans, giants, mummies, cyclopses, dragons, mermen and yeits, that what I mean as in ghosts and monsters.
Romanesque
10-31-2004, 01:08 AM
vampires, demons, werewolfs, witchs, zombies, ghouls, goblins, specters, wraiths, poltergeists, golems, phantoms, gargoyles, germlins, aliens, minotaurs, gorgans, giants, mummies, cyclopses, dragons, mermen and yeits, that what I mean as in ghosts and monsters.
That's a little constricting for the terms, don't you think? (No sarcasm there, either.)
--Romey
Kinel Ozoa
10-31-2004, 01:34 AM
I think 'monsters' is a reather vauge term. Ones deffinition could be completly different from anothers. For instance, Jermyn, in the Yuyu Hakusho Talkback thread for...Sensui's Fall I beleive, you said demons are evil, pure and simple. My opinion differs from you there, but that's not what you asked anyway. :D Just make a roundabout point.
My deffinition of a monster is any being that posses no empathy or morals, those that are able to conveince themselves that there are ebings lower than themselves without good reason, racism, prejaduce (sp?) these are examples of how humans themselves can become monsters.
Also those which appear to be monsters simply because of reputation, or outward resemblence, like say Frankensteins "monster". Everyone whom saw him beleived him to be a freak of nature, something terrible. However, this creature never asked to be created, it was a mad scientest who couldn't forsee any concequences in his actions that was the true monster.
Now beings of supernatural origin? Yes, I beleive they exist. I've had many-a personal happenings with such things. I'm not the one to go into it, because I'm rarely beleived. I'm sure there are billions of things that we as humans don't know about or just ignore because our minds can't take the truth infront of us.
Ghosts expecially, a depressing subject for some. So many theries on why a ghost would exist, unfinished buissnus, great tregedy, not ready to move on. Most of these are bassed on the fact that these apperitions are stuck here in a perpetual state of sarrow. About once a week or so, doesnt' matter what time a day it is, out of the corner of my eyes walking through the dining room into my kitchen I can swear out of the corner of my eye I could see an asian man, dressed all in black. As soon as this registers and I double-take, i see nothing there. This used to REALLY creep me out as a kid, but now it's almost routeine.
*reads back through that* Yeash..I talk to much...
Cactus Gunman
10-31-2004, 01:35 AM
To me many of the monsters and ghosts that appear in folklore and mythology from around the world are just based on a person or culture’s fears and ignorance of the unknown. Also many monsters and ghosts were fabricated to scare people, mostly children.
cross blues
10-31-2004, 01:54 AM
To me many of the monsters and ghosts that appear in folklore and mythology from around the world are just based on a person or culture’s fears and ignorance of the unknown. Also many monsters and ghosts were fabricated to scare people, mostly children.no demons, no monsters, no undead, no ghosts or restless spirits caught between this world and the next. I don't believe any of that stuff exists now and I don't believe it ever did. (cool guys like Alucard only live in fiction)
g_UnIt_GaNsTa
10-31-2004, 02:20 AM
Give me proof. Just saying "I saw a gh0st!!!1111111lol" isn't enough.
Scythemantis
10-31-2004, 02:23 AM
I WISH. Noone loves weird creatures more than I do. Noone.
There are millions of bizarre lifeforms on earth, but most of them are natural organisms like insects and deep-sea fish that we generally don't or can't interact with.
But there's always mutation. At least one two-headed alligator is known to exist - conjoined twins. Now there's a strange, unnatural, and dangerously powerful beast.
Skeeter
10-31-2004, 10:59 PM
When my grandma died in 2002, one of my aunts swore that when she was drinking her coffee, on that same morning that my grandma died, that someone was in the room with her. And that was right before my aunt received the call saying that my grandma had died. o_0 And my sister claims to have had a ghostly encounter once before too.
My grandfather died in 1997. Before he passed away my aunt (the only one of my dad's siblings who doesn't live in Illinois near the rest of her family) flew out from California to spend Thanksgiving with us. And the day that my grandfather died was the day that she was supposed to fly back to California.
When my grandpa died, my aunt had already left for the airport. My grandma called the airport to try to catch her and let her know what happened, but was told that my aunt's plane was already taxiing down the runway. Not five minutes later the plane had to turn around and come back because of engine trouble, the flight was canceled and the passengers' fare was refunded. When my aunt got off the plane she was told about my grandfather's death.
To this day almost everyone in my family believes that that wasn't coincidence. Someone or something prevented that plane from taking off so that my aunt didn't go back to California too soon.
Conekiller
11-01-2004, 01:26 PM
I beleive in ghosts, absolutely!
I have a friend whose grandmother died of a brain tumor in mid August of this year. My friend has told me that he has seen the ghost of his grandmother. he was playing videogames and felt a hand rest on his knee, he lookoed upa nd saw her plain as day,a nd thought nothing of it at first, then he realized it was impossible and she was gone. His younger sister has also claimed to see her ghost. I take my friends's word onthis becuase I know he is not the kind fo person to just make this stuff up, let alone a few weeks after her death.
He also told me of his Girlfriend's house which appears to be haunted, both she and her parents have seen a ghostly figure intheri rooms at night.
A more personal experience: My grandfather was in the hospital undergoing open heart surgery. One morning I dreamt that my grandfather was talking with me and telling me not to worry, that he was better now and everyhtign was OK. I woke up shortly after that, noticing that it was a school day but I had been allowed to sleep (my alarm had been shut off) when I asked my mom what was going on she informed me that my grandfather had died early that morning.
I realize that a few stories posted on a message board can't really be considered evidence, but these experiences and confessions are enough for me.
I'ma also convinced that Shogunthethird's ghost prevented me from seeing the first episode of the 4kids One Piece. I KNOW I set that vcr that night :D
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