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CookieS
10-29-2004, 06:35 PM
Its not reality yet, but the Mozilla Foundation seem to think it could happen. Read on..

http://news.com.com/Firefox+aims+for+10+percent+of+Web+surfers/2100-1032_3-5425918.html?tag=st.rn

True Noir
10-29-2004, 09:36 PM
Its not reality yet, but the Mozilla Foundation seem to think it could happen. Read on..

http://news.com.com/Firefox+aims+for+10+percent+of+Web+surfers/2100-1032_3-5425918.html?tag=st.rn
It could definately happen. Yesterday, after Sampo told me about this thing I started using it and I love it! FireFox looks like it's going to become big.

Mog
10-29-2004, 10:19 PM
I started using it, but only because Avant has been giving me crap for a while and I gave up on it. FireFox does have it's problems though. For one thing, some objects won't load on some sites. I noticed it when I opened up the same site, CNN I think, on FF and IE. IE had a few more items, while FF excluded a few. I didn't think much of it because they weren't useful, but later I tried it with another site that uses passwords and FF didn't show the login box. It's rather strange, but I'm sure it will be fixed sooner or later.

Caffeine King
10-30-2004, 12:07 AM
I'm currently using it right now.

Just downloaded it. :)

Sampo
10-30-2004, 12:53 AM
Some extensions I would recommend from Mozilla Update site. (https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384})

Adblock (https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=10) Kills Ads and Pop-ups dead!

Linkification (http://www.beggarchooser.com/firefox/) This allows you to view websites that only support plain text urls and change em into links you can actually click on.

Googlebar (https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=33&vid=728) Adds a really, REALLY nice search bar that you can customize.

Theme...

Noia 2.0 Extreme. (https://update.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=72) Nice theme, try it out.

maximumzero
10-30-2004, 01:46 AM
So if Firefox is 10%...how much is Safari used, percentage wise?

SSJPabs
10-30-2004, 02:53 AM
I use Firefox sometimes, but only when IE is acting up.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Firefox-tan.png
FireFox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Firefox-tan.png)

lostrune
10-30-2004, 04:47 AM
What do you expect? MS has pretty much given up browser development - they said major IE upgrades only at the same time as major OS upgrades (and how often is that?). That's why IE has been late in many browser developments lately (like tab-browsing).

So chances are, you'd only get the next IE upgrade (IE 7) when you purchase Longhorn, the next Windows version. That's what happens when there's no more competition. They could force you to buy just to upgrade. I recall the days when both Netscape and IE (both offices in Silicon Valley) were trying to trump each other (friendly rivalry then) by releasing upgrades virtually every few months and parading it to the other's office.

As for Firefox, it's easy to install and uninstall. Just unzip into a directory, then just delete that directory. No messing around with system files to screw up your system. So it's easy to try out, risk-free.

(Me? I haven't used IE regularly since forever - though I'm familiar with several browsers due to some web-designing. Went from Netscape to Mozilla.)

HumanoidTyphoon
10-30-2004, 09:25 AM
FireFox does have it's problems though. For one thing, some objects won't load on some sites. I noticed it when I opened up the same site, CNN I think, on FF and IE. IE had a few more items, while FF excluded a few. I didn't think much of it because they weren't useful, but later I tried it with another site that uses passwords and FF didn't show the login box. It's rather strange, but I'm sure it will be fixed sooner or later.Yep plug-ins sometimes don't work correctly, or certain pictures won't show up at all. Minor things compared to the problems you can have with IE.

Everyone should be downloading (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=14285&t=58) it right now.

JDuncan
10-30-2004, 10:46 AM
I've been using it since August, the extensions are great (especially BugMeNot) and make it customizable in addition to secure.

SSJPabs
10-30-2004, 01:19 PM
What do you expect? MS has pretty much given up browser development - they said major IE upgrades only at the same time as major OS upgrades (and how often is that?). That's why IE has been late in many browser developments lately (like tab-browsing).I hate tab browsing. I always screw it up. Damn learning curve.

My OS - Windows 2000, IE Broswer
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/2000-jpb.jpg

Girlfriend's OS - OS X, Safari Browser
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/MACOSX2-Girl.jpg
Stupid macs.

Yes this was an excuse for me to post more OS Girl pictures.

Westlander
10-30-2004, 06:29 PM
Firefox is made by some Microsoft-bashing hippies. This crap doesn't display the colored scrollbars properly and gets all screwy when it comes to some applets and flash files. I'll keep my MyIE2.

auto
10-30-2004, 06:39 PM
I've been using FireFox with AdBlock for a good month now and it has actually crashed on me a few times (has trouble with PDFs) and a few websites (like eChalk.com) don't work on it at all. At least its better than IE and I've been getting significantly less spyware since I started using it two monthes ago.

jeffrey 228
10-30-2004, 06:51 PM
Its not reality yet, but the Mozilla Foundation seem to think it could happen. Read on..

http://news.com.com/Firefox+aims+for+10+percent+of+Web+surfers/2100-1032_3-5425918.html?tag=st.rn

I got news for you, even though this browser is not supported on this board type yet, and is still near the beta version and stuff it seems that given that if People hate to go to Windows XP because you can only install it once, it seem more and more people will likly get this browser after they install Windows 2000 and I figure that this could become on browser that could probbly make advertisements very soon, but of coruse this is just all of a thought I made up and well I dout much of that will happen.

Romanesque
10-30-2004, 06:51 PM
I've not only switched over to Firefox myself... but I've got most of my immediate family using it too. Keeps them out of trouble. :p

I hate tab browsing. I always screw it up. Damn learning curve.

As someone who's usually doing 20 or more odd things at a time on top of managing dozens of open pages at once, I don't think I could go back.

Firefox is made by some Microsoft-bashing hippies. This crap doesn't display the colored scrollbars properly and gets all screwy when it comes to some applets and flash files. I'll keep my MyIE2.

That deserves a good ":rolleyes:" smiley, it does. :p

Firefox has it's own share of problems, but it was also designed not to have certain "features"... (Though I can't say I've ever had any applet or flash problems.)

I got news for you, even though this browser is not supported on this board type yet, and is still near the beta version and stuff it seems that given that if People hate to go to Windows XP because you can only install it once, it seem more and more people will likly get this browser after they install Windows 2000 and I figure that this could become on browser that could probbly make advertisements very soon, but of coruse this is just all of a thought I made up and well I dout much of that will happen.

Could you, uhh... reword that?

--Romey

Jade_GL
10-30-2004, 07:14 PM
I love Firefox. I started using it months ago and have not gone back to IE. Mainly because IE makes me mad about half the time I use it.

I use Firefox and have little to no problems, while I would always get errors that caused my browser to crash with IE. Of course, by that time, I would have 5 articles open and loading, so I would have to go backtrack and find everything again.

Firefox is great, doesn't crash on me, and I love the tabs. Man, I sound like such a geek, but it's true. IE is a distant and annoying memory.

Westlander
10-31-2004, 07:11 AM
That deserves a good ":rolleyes:" smiley, it does. :pWhy? MyIE2 (not to be mistaken with IE!) is compatible with IE (same kernel), but crashes a lot less and has some nice features, like ad-blocker and tabbed browsing. It's also skinnable and doesn't eat up tons of memory. I had Firefox 1.0 for two days...And then I've switched back to MyIE.

Romanesque
10-31-2004, 01:13 PM
Why? MyIE2 (not to be mistaken with IE!) is compatible with IE (same kernel), but crashes a lot less and has some nice features, like ad-blocker and tabbed browsing. It's also skinnable and doesn't eat up tons of memory. I had Firefox 1.0 for two days...And then I've switched back to MyIE.

You make it sound as if having the same kernel as IE were a good thing. That pretty much leaves MyIE / MyIE2 as fancy wrappers. It may be better than pure IE, but... the idea of keeping the same kernel doesn't sit well with me.

--Romey

Speedy Boris
10-31-2004, 03:00 PM
I tried Firefox one time and it kept appearing and disappearing from the OSX dock, refusing to run. Maybe I'll try a new version to see if that bug is fixed, but I'm in no hurry. Safari and Camino have been my trusty browsers for quite some time. I only use IE when I need to cache video files. Safari and Camino don't seem to be able to store them anywhere (though maybe I'm wrong on that).

Stewie
10-31-2004, 07:20 PM
I used IE for years before switching to Firefox a few weeks ago. I like it better (tabs are nice), but never had any problems with IE. I'm convinced it's not IE that is messed up, it's all of you that have problems with it.

jeffrey 228
10-31-2004, 11:24 PM
I've not only switched over to Firefox myself... but I've got most of my immediate family using it too. Keeps them out of trouble. :p

Could you, uhh... reword that?

--Romey

I this case poeple who Don't want to upgrade to Windows XP, that is the reason of my reply and all.

PaQ
11-02-2004, 06:42 PM
Well, I think FireFox is an awesome browser. I've been using it since they officially released 1.0. I used to use it back when it was called FireBird but I just had to configure too many things and I was impatient. I like it a lot more now, I went back because I just love tabbed browsing, and it just works a lot better for me than IE does. :D

I certainly think this will be a widely used browser, it definitely has a lot of great features, and hopefully with Fire Fox, it will make Microsoft keep improving IE, as competition usually helps.

JohnCrichton
11-05-2004, 11:39 AM
While I love not getting anymore pop-ups, could someone tell me out to fix these drawbacks:

-In the Drop-Down Link List, for IE, it rearranges itself depending on which link was visited the latest. Firefox remains static. How do I get it to rearrange as needed?

-Message Board Stuff. If the last place I clicked was in a message board window where I type, the scroll button on my mouse won't go up or down unless I click outside of the message board window.

-vBulletin doesn't allow for simple copy and pasting of images.

Can these problems be fixed somehow?

Ben
11-05-2004, 12:16 PM
-In the Drop-Down Link List, for IE, it rearranges itself depending on which link was visited the latest. Firefox remains static. How do I get it to rearrange as needed?

This has been especially irritating for me as well. Having to scroll down and down and down to get to a page I just visited two seconds ago is getting real old.

Red
11-05-2004, 04:10 PM
I myself use Firefox too, mainly for the tabbed browsing. At first I didnt want to switch cause I liked Mozilla's dark silver style. But I found the style on Mozillas site for Firefox! So I started using it. Since they are from the same company.

(G4)TechTV's The Screen Savers has REALLY been pushing people to download Firefox, so I wouldn't be surpised if alot of people use it.

Arxane
11-05-2004, 06:10 PM
I used IE for years before switching to Firefox a few weeks ago. I like it better (tabs are nice), but never had any problems with IE. I'm convinced it's not IE that is messed up, it's all of you that have problems with it.

Yes, I have problems with IE...because IE is messed up.

I have a problem with Internet Explorer being full of security holes and being heavily dependent on ActiveX, which is the biggest reason why IE is exploited constantly by adware and spyware. When I used IE, the number of spyware I got each week according to Ad-Aware and Spybot was staggering, even with protective measures. When I switched to Firefox, do you know how much spyware I got according to those two programs? None. Zilch. Zero. Nada. That says something

I have a problem with IE constantly crashing on my machine when I do something as simple as press the Back button. IE crashed three times during the week I finally made the switch to Firefox. Firefox has crashed a grand total of one time in two years.

And I have a problem with popup ads and flash ads appearing when the IE browser is on, even with popup-blocking software activated. If you ask me, I'd much rather use a browser which you can protect it via extensions like Firefox than you have to download external software like IE. A small-sized extension like AdBlock is a lot better than a stand-alone program like Browser Hijack Blaster. I've never had any problems with popup ads and in-browser flash ads on Firefox.

I didn't switch from IE to Firefox because I hate Microsoft. I use Microsoft software all the time, especially Word and Excel (switching to programs like OpenOffice is definitely not easy). The reason I switched from IE to Firefox is because IE is a horrible browser. It was responsible for allowing hundreds of pieces of unauthorized software onto my machine's hard drive, and I just got fed up with it.

Ever since switching to Firefox, I've had very few complaints. It's not perfect (I'm not fond of how you have to uninstall the browser before you can install the new version), but it's much better than IE. Tabbed browsing has become a part of my life, and the extensions like DictionarySearch, FoxyTunes, and BugMeNot just add to the browser. And I can be rest assured that spyware will no longer be a problem. I switched my family computer from IE, to Firefox, and immediately they've noticed a significant increase in performance.

Do I have a problem with IE? Yes, which is why I stopped using it.

Nick Biped
11-05-2004, 06:24 PM
I switched to Firefox a few weeks ago, and haven't really looked back. For me, it works just as well as IE, but the main advantage is that I'm getting a lot less spyware than I used to.

lostrune
11-05-2004, 09:29 PM
While I love not getting anymore pop-ups, could someone tell me out to fix these drawbacks:

-In the Drop-Down Link List, for IE, it rearranges itself depending on which link was visited the latest. Firefox remains static. How do I get it to rearrange as needed?
Haven't really tried this, but try: Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks -> View -> Sorted by Last Visited

Or use the History sidebar (Ctrl-H) -> View -> By Last Visited

HTH.

As for ActiveX, IIRC it was Microsoft's answer to JavaScript. But not many people use it - pretty much only MS itself and some big businesses. Certainly the majority of webpages out there (non-business, personal websites) don't bother with it.

cross blues
11-06-2004, 05:34 AM
we (my family) started using Firefox today, so add one more to the list.

Anime Guy
11-06-2004, 11:41 AM
Just downloaded it. Seems like a very cool browser. The Plugin Finder Service is a nice touch. I think I'll have fun with this. :D

Avery
11-07-2004, 02:41 AM
Downloaded it a couple days ago. Mmmmm . . . lack of spyware . . . TASTY.

James
11-07-2004, 05:45 PM
Love it. Been using it for a few months now. Best thing, is if you lose net connection, it just tells you, rather then opening a "page cannot be displayed". For forum surfing this is a godsend - no work lost!

Tabbing is so cool and effective, there isn't anything I really prefer on IE. Yeah, Morzilla has some issues with some sites, but that will change in the future. Any problem sites I open up with IE, no biggie - once in a blue moon.

Yep. Far better.

Bubblegum Girl
11-07-2004, 07:33 PM
Ever since my dad found about FireFox, I've abandon my IE. :p It's so much easier for me to surf on nurmeous sites thanks to the tabs and I love the instant popup blocker.

ManicWebb
11-07-2004, 09:14 PM
I just switched to FireFox from Opera (I haven't used IE in about 2 or 3 years). I love tab browsing, and FireFox is a lot more compatible with some programming than Opera. I couldn't even open my GMail until I got FireFox. I do miss being able to put my address bar on the bottom of the window, though.

My only real complaint is that my address bar's list of links doesn't rearrange itself by placing the most recent URLs on top. Like it's been said before, the list just remains static. I tried what lostrune suggested, but it's not working.

lostrune
11-08-2004, 03:55 PM
My only real complaint is that my address bar's list of links doesn't rearrange itself by placing the most recent URLs on top. Like it's been said before, the list just remains static. I tried what lostrune suggested, but it's not working.
Oh, ya guys meant the address bar? :sweat:

No, no, the address bar's list of links puts the most used links on top; ergo the newest link (usually the last visited link) goes at the bottom.

JohnCrichton
11-08-2004, 04:09 PM
Mine stays static and sucks.

That and the message board scrolling isn't easy either.

BLACKHEART
11-08-2004, 05:11 PM
I have not even like heard of this thingie. Does that make me stupid? :(

Stewie
11-08-2004, 05:18 PM
I have not even like heard of this thingie. Does that make me stupid? :(No, it makes you normal.

BLACKHEART
11-08-2004, 05:37 PM
Yay! I do not understand why people just cannot stick it out with Explorer or Netscape. Why the urge to be different? O-Billy Gates didn't make billions because he put out a crappy product. He just put the other products out of business. :p

JohnCrichton
11-08-2004, 05:40 PM
I just got sick of getting my computer loaded with unwanted spyware and I finally don't get bothered by pop-ups anymore.

BLACKHEART
11-08-2004, 05:48 PM
That's what pop-up blocker is for. ;)

JohnCrichton
11-08-2004, 05:55 PM
Yeah, but that'd mean another program to load.

With FireFox, all I need is just the browers and it's more or less, smooth sailing. As soon as they fixt those lil snaffu's that bug me.. I'd say it was the perfect browers.

Arxane
11-08-2004, 06:34 PM
Yay! I do not understand why people just cannot stick it out with Explorer or Netscape. Why the urge to be different? O-Billy Gates didn't make billions because he put out a crappy product. He just put the other products out of business. :p

I don't know about Netscape, but most people remain with Internet Explorer because they've used Windows all their lives and are unaware that there are a lot of alternatives to Microsoft software available. Ask a regular joe about OpenOffice, and he'll give you a blank stare. Mention Eudora or Thunderbird, and he'll scratch his head.

However, alternative browsers are getting more exposure these days because of an influx of viruses and damaging software leaking into people's computers. It's gotten to the point to where the federal government (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16922) is warning against using Internet Explorer. Microsoft must've done something wrong for Uncle Sam to warn against using IE.

Of course, it's not like the average joe will even know that alternate browsers exist before it's too late. I remember reading a story in which an old Catholic grandmother's laptop computer had popup ads and porn pages splashing all over her screen. It became so bad that she took the laptop and placed it at the feet of a statue of the Virgin Mary to exorcise the demons. Poor girl... ;)

ManicWebb
11-08-2004, 09:12 PM
I have Earthlink's pop-up blocker, so I don't need Firefox for that.

I just like tab browsing. In my old computer, while using IE, I had to open several windows just to surf more than one page at a time. That PC had very little ram, and I actually froze whenever I had more than 4 windows open at once. I switched to Opera, and tab browsing saved me years of agony. Problem was, Opera doesn't view most webpages well, and (like I said before) it can't view GMail's homepage. So I switched to Firefox.

Even though my current PC has enough ram to handle all of those windows IE throws at me, I'm just too used to Tabs. When Internet Explorer gives me tab browsing, it and I will have a little talk.

By the way, my address bar doesn't go by most recent. If that were the case, this anime web turnpike link would be nowhere near the top.

Tommy Lawson
11-09-2004, 03:09 PM
The official version of FireFox 1.0 is now available at http://www.getfirefox.com

Here's a CNN.com article about it:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/11/09/mozilla.firefox/index.html

Spider-Man
11-21-2004, 09:15 AM
After a really bad spyware attack on my Internet Explorer browser just this morning my cousin convinced me to give FireFox a try and I really like it. This morning I tried to click on a thread in the Comic Book Culture board but got attacked with onemoresearch.com pop-up pages, countless spyware ads, and couldn't get on the board at all. It kept re-directing my browser. So now I'm giving FireFox a try and really liking it.

lostrune
11-22-2004, 09:35 AM
BTW, ya guys can use ToonZone News' RSS Feed on FireFox. FireFox also calls it "Live Bookmarks." Here's the official site off Mozilla:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks.html

RSS (an acronym for "Rich Site Summary" and later coined "Really Simple Syndication") is a way for web sites to summarize their content, such as news articles, to make it available in a different view.

You can find ToonZone's RSS link on every ToonZone News article like here on the upper right (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=127175).

To do it, open FireFox, go to Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks -> File -> New Live Bookmark. Give it a name, then for the "feed location," copy the URL link (http://forums.toonzone.net/external.php?type=rss&forumids=95) for the ToonZone News RSS Feed. And that's it.

Now you can quickly see the latest news posted on ToonZone as soon as they're posted, and you don't even need to first go to the website. :)

Fresh V
11-23-2004, 12:13 AM
My IE got flooded (really, more than flooded, almost made me get a headache I dont know how many times) so I downloaded Firefox, and the first day I started using it, I felt like I was flying.:anime: The problem is, IE keeps on loading sometimes and floods my page with popups. So, can anyone answer this question that was bugging me for too long:

IS THERE ANY WAY TO FREAKIN' DELETE IE!!?

If there is...... man, I'll be running around my house with joy like a freak 10 times.:p If there's not....:sad:

Sampo
11-23-2004, 02:08 AM
My IE got flooded (really, more than flooded, almost made me get a headache I dont know how many times) so I downloaded Firefox, and the first day I started using it, I felt like I was flying.:anime: The problem is, IE keeps on loading sometimes and floods my page with popups. So, can anyone answer this question that was bugging me for too long:

IS THERE ANY WAY TO FREAKIN' DELETE IE!!?

If there is...... man, I'll be running around my house with joy like a freak 10 times.:p If there's not....:sad: You can do this with Win XP. Hit the "Start" button. Then...

-click "Set program access and defaults" that appears right next to "control panel"
-a window pops up. Click "Custom".
-a drop down menu appears. Under "Choose a default web browser" select Mozilla Firefox.

That should make your Internet browser default always to Firefox. You cannot delete IE though since it's built into the dang operating system unless you switch to Linux or get a Mac :sweat:

BTW. If IE just suddenly starts up by itself, there could be some spyware on your computer doing that.

BTW, ya guys can use ToonZone News' RSS Feed on FireFox. FireFox also calls it "Live Bookmarks." Here's the official site off Mozilla:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks.html

[snip lots of informative bits of info]

Thanks for the heads up! Hmm, something new to try out.

lostrune
11-23-2004, 03:17 AM
BTW, ya guys can use ToonZone News' RSS Feed on FireFox. FireFox also calls it "Live Bookmarks." Here's the official site off Mozilla:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks.html

[snip lots of informative bits of info]
Thanks for the heads up! Hmm, something new to try out.
You're welcome. You could do the same with some BT sites. ;)