Steve Carras
10-20-2004, 01:58 AM
Many times in the 50s-60s a record album or 78/45 single, or tape would have a cartoon property (TOP CAT, 101 DALMATIONS,etc.),esp.from H-B and DIsney, but have (for contractual,financial or other reason) different performers.
(One of those, longtime character actor Sam Edwards (1915-2004) ,died July 28--he was the kids record TIGGER for DIsney.Go to http://www.jimhillmedia.com and type in TIGGER in search (Or SAM EDWARDS)
Some examples:
DISNEY
The 1969 HAUNTED MANSION LP had veteran Disney voice Pete Renoudet as the Ghost Host, a voice that Paul Frees portrays. (In the US theme parks-Vincent Price at least once did the French voice!). (Thurl Ravenscroft narrates,and two teenagers were added to the mix-Mike (a 15 year old Ron Howard) and Karen (an obvious girlfriend)(longtime 1960s Disneyland records narrator and radio/cartoon voice veteran Robie Lester), along with an uncredited appearance by Disney and radio's Elenaor Audley, the only one reprising their role (Madame Leota.) (Thurl R. DOES appear in the WDW and DIsneyland Mansion, but as one of the singing busts.He's the one holds its head.::D)
All of the WINNIE THER POOH records used subsitutue cast (don't worry, Pooh-heads..ol' Sterling Holloway's there as the silly ol,' bear, likewise Sebastian Cabot as narrator-both respective cases just like the mini-flicks.)
For instance, Sam Edwards is Tigger, Owl and in 1970s LPs, Rabbit, Robie Lester is Kanga, Piglet and Roo, Ginny Tyler doing Christopher Robin severla times. Thurl Ravensacroft is Eeyore and later on Dallas McKennon,as Rabbit.In the trilogy (I don't count the post 1970s ones, part becuase the cast changed drastically in the films due to the death or retirement of so many original POOH voice-cast members, and because by the late 70s the fine art of storyteller albums at Disney had alrgely been repalced by ?hip" kids soundtracksd a la OLIVER, MERMAID, THE LION KING,etc.I mean how many LIZZIE McGUIRE CDs have "Story and songs"?:D )
In the trilogy, Barbara Luddy did Kanga, John Fielder (the only one to remain the same character through) was Piglet, several were Roo and Christopher Robin (I'll other post them..:)), Hal SMith's owl, storyman Ralph Wright was the voice of Eeyore, veteran radio actor Juncius C.Matthews played Rabbit,Howie Morris is Gopher, Paul Winchell, who DID get to be on the ..>>AND TIGGER TOO (1974) record, of course was the "fun-fun-fun-fun-fun" tiger Tigger,along with the ALWAYS (record and original WINNIE THE POOH Disney trilogy 1966-74) heard Sterling Holloway (POOH) and narrator Sebastian Cabot.
For ARISTCATS, http://www.jimhillmedia.com (see second,small paragraph at the top of this posting) Robie Lester and Sam Edwards do most voices..I'm ASSUMING that Phil (THOMAS) Harris and STerling (ROQUEFORT THE MOUSE) Holl,oway ARE, as listed on the jacket, heard reprisng their roles.:D . However Sam Edwards is listed as being on the record by Jim Hill even after he just got through listing Sam Edwards as narrator, yet I am CERTAIN that STERLING HOLLOWAY, reprsing Roquefort the mouse (not Terrytoons character) narrating as listed, IS heard on that record..(the refs seem by what I know to BE to characters here..regarding the mention of Sam Edwards as narrator in the same context as a listing of records where he is a CHARACTER..I meean, Anita Bryant, not Sam, narrated the 1971 forgotten ORANGE BIRD record (ST-3991)).(Or is Edwards DOING an unbilled Holloway impression..:))
LADY AND THE TRAMP records had Lady played not by Babs Luddy (the radio actress [FIRST NIGHTER] who supplied voice for the cocker spaniel, as well as Kanga, mother rabbit in ROBIN HOOD and Merryweather iin the SLEEPING BUEATY trio)) but by the prolific Ginny Tyler, who was in SPACE GHOST< the DFE but NOT the HB FANTASTIC FOUR and in GUMBY and the 1962 syndicated MICKEY MOSUE CLUB (the GOOD ANNETTE rerun version) in southern Calif.here, and Tramp, her canine mongrel--I mean,mutt boyfriend was voiced not by the unknown Larry Roberts (the LADY AND THE TRAMP Tramp voice in 1955) but bY Dallas McKennon using his Pokey voice.Ginny Tytler,spekaing, and Teri York,yet and other Disney reocrd vet, singing, as Peggy Lee's former PEg (PL certainly put up a actress's rights and royalties fights for this back in 1986, didn't she?) the showgirl pekingese,not to mention Billy Bletcher, perennila West Coast toon cop/villian, (Disney roles including Big Bad WOlf and Black Pete and one of the clowns in DUMBO [1941]),as Trusty the bloodhound in sthe stead of the long frogotten, William Bill Baucom, the character actor whoi did the voice for him originally.
EVEN LIVE ACTION tie-ins had replacement casts this way!
MARY POPPINS, for one. Marni Nixon replaced JUlie ANdrews as MP, and Dallas McKinnon as Dick Van Dyke's former "By Jove"-ial cockney Bert...Blimey.
The obscuree THE BOATNIKS (1970) had Robie Lester,Dal McKennon, Sam Edwards, and an unknown guy name Gerry Hoff as the cast replacing,respectively, Stefanie POower s(or was that Michelle Lee), Robert Morse,Phil Silvers,etc.
HANNA-BARBERA
TOP CAT AS ROBIN HOOD (1964) had rather than Arnold Stang as TC Daws Butler, due to logisitics of Stang's eing from the East (I always went by this record, not having seen TV for a long time and not reading credits back when I saw it as a widdle kid in the siscties,so I always considred DAWS to be Top's voice till I saw an obscure book, TV BOOK,edited by a woman named JUdy FIreman, where there's a sidebar (this was in 1977 when the book was poublished) and for 1961 Top Cat's voice talent for TC (Stnag) and Benny (Maurice Gosfield-based on his BILKO support character, PRVT DOBERMAN,) were mention (BILKO was THE live TOP CAT of the 50s). I was startled by this..the other voices though only John Stephenson was a regular at Hanna-Barbera a longside the like sof a Daws Butler were retained for the record. Theywwere: Allen Jenkins (Dibble), Leo DeLyon (both Spook and the BRain) and Marvin Kaplan (Choo CHoo).All of them were veterans of the show and the record.
There's a YOGI AND BOO BOO record whose title I do not know, that ius said to have June Foray (!!-why not have Mel Blanc??) as Boo Boo,instead of an obvious absnet or too-h9igh charging Don Messick, and likewise Allan Melvin as Yogi than Daws Butler (well, that makes more sense!)
Some FLINSTOENS< JETSONS and HUCKLEBERYR records had similair recastings--PAUL FREES as HUCKLEBERRY???!!!
And Jimmy Durante proved,among imitators to really "have a
million of '
em"-as Daws Butler taking over Doug Young's DOGGIE DADDY showed on the 1965 AUGIE PINNOCHJIO record (with Daws as Augie of course), showed.
WARNER BROS.
Some BUGS BUNNY reocrds at Columbia, where Mel Blanc's contract kept him out, had resultantly others doiung the familiar voices.Go to http://www.harrymccrakcne.com HARY GO ROUND, DISCUSSION BOARD:DAWS BUTLER AS BUGS BUNNY?
Any memories of these or comments..
(One of those, longtime character actor Sam Edwards (1915-2004) ,died July 28--he was the kids record TIGGER for DIsney.Go to http://www.jimhillmedia.com and type in TIGGER in search (Or SAM EDWARDS)
Some examples:
DISNEY
The 1969 HAUNTED MANSION LP had veteran Disney voice Pete Renoudet as the Ghost Host, a voice that Paul Frees portrays. (In the US theme parks-Vincent Price at least once did the French voice!). (Thurl Ravenscroft narrates,and two teenagers were added to the mix-Mike (a 15 year old Ron Howard) and Karen (an obvious girlfriend)(longtime 1960s Disneyland records narrator and radio/cartoon voice veteran Robie Lester), along with an uncredited appearance by Disney and radio's Elenaor Audley, the only one reprising their role (Madame Leota.) (Thurl R. DOES appear in the WDW and DIsneyland Mansion, but as one of the singing busts.He's the one holds its head.::D)
All of the WINNIE THER POOH records used subsitutue cast (don't worry, Pooh-heads..ol' Sterling Holloway's there as the silly ol,' bear, likewise Sebastian Cabot as narrator-both respective cases just like the mini-flicks.)
For instance, Sam Edwards is Tigger, Owl and in 1970s LPs, Rabbit, Robie Lester is Kanga, Piglet and Roo, Ginny Tyler doing Christopher Robin severla times. Thurl Ravensacroft is Eeyore and later on Dallas McKennon,as Rabbit.In the trilogy (I don't count the post 1970s ones, part becuase the cast changed drastically in the films due to the death or retirement of so many original POOH voice-cast members, and because by the late 70s the fine art of storyteller albums at Disney had alrgely been repalced by ?hip" kids soundtracksd a la OLIVER, MERMAID, THE LION KING,etc.I mean how many LIZZIE McGUIRE CDs have "Story and songs"?:D )
In the trilogy, Barbara Luddy did Kanga, John Fielder (the only one to remain the same character through) was Piglet, several were Roo and Christopher Robin (I'll other post them..:)), Hal SMith's owl, storyman Ralph Wright was the voice of Eeyore, veteran radio actor Juncius C.Matthews played Rabbit,Howie Morris is Gopher, Paul Winchell, who DID get to be on the ..>>AND TIGGER TOO (1974) record, of course was the "fun-fun-fun-fun-fun" tiger Tigger,along with the ALWAYS (record and original WINNIE THE POOH Disney trilogy 1966-74) heard Sterling Holloway (POOH) and narrator Sebastian Cabot.
For ARISTCATS, http://www.jimhillmedia.com (see second,small paragraph at the top of this posting) Robie Lester and Sam Edwards do most voices..I'm ASSUMING that Phil (THOMAS) Harris and STerling (ROQUEFORT THE MOUSE) Holl,oway ARE, as listed on the jacket, heard reprisng their roles.:D . However Sam Edwards is listed as being on the record by Jim Hill even after he just got through listing Sam Edwards as narrator, yet I am CERTAIN that STERLING HOLLOWAY, reprsing Roquefort the mouse (not Terrytoons character) narrating as listed, IS heard on that record..(the refs seem by what I know to BE to characters here..regarding the mention of Sam Edwards as narrator in the same context as a listing of records where he is a CHARACTER..I meean, Anita Bryant, not Sam, narrated the 1971 forgotten ORANGE BIRD record (ST-3991)).(Or is Edwards DOING an unbilled Holloway impression..:))
LADY AND THE TRAMP records had Lady played not by Babs Luddy (the radio actress [FIRST NIGHTER] who supplied voice for the cocker spaniel, as well as Kanga, mother rabbit in ROBIN HOOD and Merryweather iin the SLEEPING BUEATY trio)) but by the prolific Ginny Tyler, who was in SPACE GHOST< the DFE but NOT the HB FANTASTIC FOUR and in GUMBY and the 1962 syndicated MICKEY MOSUE CLUB (the GOOD ANNETTE rerun version) in southern Calif.here, and Tramp, her canine mongrel--I mean,mutt boyfriend was voiced not by the unknown Larry Roberts (the LADY AND THE TRAMP Tramp voice in 1955) but bY Dallas McKennon using his Pokey voice.Ginny Tytler,spekaing, and Teri York,yet and other Disney reocrd vet, singing, as Peggy Lee's former PEg (PL certainly put up a actress's rights and royalties fights for this back in 1986, didn't she?) the showgirl pekingese,not to mention Billy Bletcher, perennila West Coast toon cop/villian, (Disney roles including Big Bad WOlf and Black Pete and one of the clowns in DUMBO [1941]),as Trusty the bloodhound in sthe stead of the long frogotten, William Bill Baucom, the character actor whoi did the voice for him originally.
EVEN LIVE ACTION tie-ins had replacement casts this way!
MARY POPPINS, for one. Marni Nixon replaced JUlie ANdrews as MP, and Dallas McKinnon as Dick Van Dyke's former "By Jove"-ial cockney Bert...Blimey.
The obscuree THE BOATNIKS (1970) had Robie Lester,Dal McKennon, Sam Edwards, and an unknown guy name Gerry Hoff as the cast replacing,respectively, Stefanie POower s(or was that Michelle Lee), Robert Morse,Phil Silvers,etc.
HANNA-BARBERA
TOP CAT AS ROBIN HOOD (1964) had rather than Arnold Stang as TC Daws Butler, due to logisitics of Stang's eing from the East (I always went by this record, not having seen TV for a long time and not reading credits back when I saw it as a widdle kid in the siscties,so I always considred DAWS to be Top's voice till I saw an obscure book, TV BOOK,edited by a woman named JUdy FIreman, where there's a sidebar (this was in 1977 when the book was poublished) and for 1961 Top Cat's voice talent for TC (Stnag) and Benny (Maurice Gosfield-based on his BILKO support character, PRVT DOBERMAN,) were mention (BILKO was THE live TOP CAT of the 50s). I was startled by this..the other voices though only John Stephenson was a regular at Hanna-Barbera a longside the like sof a Daws Butler were retained for the record. Theywwere: Allen Jenkins (Dibble), Leo DeLyon (both Spook and the BRain) and Marvin Kaplan (Choo CHoo).All of them were veterans of the show and the record.
There's a YOGI AND BOO BOO record whose title I do not know, that ius said to have June Foray (!!-why not have Mel Blanc??) as Boo Boo,instead of an obvious absnet or too-h9igh charging Don Messick, and likewise Allan Melvin as Yogi than Daws Butler (well, that makes more sense!)
Some FLINSTOENS< JETSONS and HUCKLEBERYR records had similair recastings--PAUL FREES as HUCKLEBERRY???!!!
And Jimmy Durante proved,among imitators to really "have a
million of '
em"-as Daws Butler taking over Doug Young's DOGGIE DADDY showed on the 1965 AUGIE PINNOCHJIO record (with Daws as Augie of course), showed.
WARNER BROS.
Some BUGS BUNNY reocrds at Columbia, where Mel Blanc's contract kept him out, had resultantly others doiung the familiar voices.Go to http://www.harrymccrakcne.com HARY GO ROUND, DISCUSSION BOARD:DAWS BUTLER AS BUGS BUNNY?
Any memories of these or comments..