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Warrior Kitana

10-19-2004, 11:55 PM

I was just wondering. I haven't paid much attention to Scrappy before, nor do I care greatly for his character but I've noticed that he is quite disliked among the Scooby community. To some, he ruined the whole Scooby show. I can see where several would find him annoying, but he has quite a large hate following. It's kinda like Tom Sloane from Daria. Why do people hate Scrappy so much?

Superperson

10-20-2004, 12:25 AM

Because he's an annoying character, who didn't fit into the show at all in my opinion, Scooby wasn't that great of a show to begin with, and un-nescicerrily adding an annoying sidekick didn't help it.

Tak Mazé

10-20-2004, 05:54 AM

The fact that he is able to maintain an intelligent and clearly (though annoyingly) spoken vocabulary annoys me. He was added to try and increase ratings apparantly and I hate it when shows do that because they totally ruin it.

Summoned Skrull

10-20-2004, 12:16 PM

Fans of Scooby Doo don't like Scrappy Doo simply becuase he is an annoying,frustrating,unlikeable character who is responsible for the single biggest Shark-Jump since the Fonz jumped the shark.( see jumptheshark.com to find out what that means...):)

Juu-kuchi

10-20-2004, 03:19 PM

Annoying little brat who thought he could kick ass. Scooby should have let him "Let me at 'em" at the monsters and had Scrappy show what puppy power was really like.

His portrayal in the Scooby-Doo movie was a highlight as well.

MahouShoujo13

10-20-2004, 04:03 PM

Possibly because he is idiotically annoying. And I agree with Superperson, "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?" wasn't that much of a good mystery show. Why add a sidekick that would at worse case scenario ruin things?

If you want a real mystery show, go watch the anime "Case Closed"/"Detective Conan". Much better.

SuperStantzio

10-20-2004, 05:05 PM

Scrappy was a pretty annoying and a little brat to begin with. I'm just glad that He was only on a few eipsodes. :mad: :mad:

Zach Williams

10-20-2004, 05:15 PM

Scrappy was a pretty annoying and a little brat to begin with. I'm just glad that He was only on a few eipsodes. :mad: :mad:

A few episodes!!!! He was in 13 Ghosts, Scooby and Scrappy-DOo, All New Scooby and Scrappy Hour, and The New Scooby Doo Movies. Thta's not a "few episodes". I liked the charecter actually, and I did not hate him or want him to leave in anyway. He can get a bit annoying, so I can agree with you there, but I also dont know why people hate him. I can understand why the hardcore Scooby fans hate him, but just people!!! WHY????

STARTOUNZ

10-20-2004, 05:28 PM

A few episodes!!!! He was in 13 Ghosts, Scooby and Scrappy-DOo, All New Scooby and Scrappy Hour, and The New Scooby Doo Movies.
Scrappy wasn't featured in The New Scooby-Doo Movies (1972). He made his debut in The Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show (1979).

magicjac

10-20-2004, 06:40 PM

Scrappy wasn't featured in The New Scooby-Doo Movies (1972). He made his debut in The Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show (1979).
That's what I was about to say. I think Zach Williams meant "New Scooby Doo Mysteries", not "Movies". Anyways, Scrappy Doo was an annoying charcater, but I didn't hate him. I mean, "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" actually was a great show, and Scrappy wasn't added to the show just to make it better. In case spme people don't know, Scrappy Doo didn't premeire until 1979 in "Scooby & Scrappy Doo". Before 1979, not only was there "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?", there were " The New Scooby Doo Movies" in 1972 and "The Scooby Doo Show" in 1976. Scrappy Doo was just added to the show for something new to approach. SDWAY already had good ratings, NSDM had two successful seasons in 1972, and TSDS had 3 successful seasons combined with other shows and by itself. And sorry MahouShoujo13, I'd take "Scooby Doo" over "Detective Conan" ANY DAY.

Warrior Kitana

10-20-2004, 06:45 PM

The reason I brought up this question was while watching the Scooby Doo marathon over the weekend (mainly because nothing else was on), a friend of mine pointed out how hated he was among Scooby fans. Scrappy has always been a character that I neither despised or cared about. He was just sorta...there.

By the time of his debut, Scobby had been airing for over ten years I think and maybe to add a sidekick/new main character would turn off loyal fans. I've seen that happen to several series /ex: Tom Sloane (Daria), Pan (DBGT), Sakuya (Tenchi In Tokyo, etc.)

As for MahouShoujo13 who said Detective Conan was a better series. I'll admit the series has much better mystery than Scooby, but as far great mysteries go, I've seen better. The series also has the same episodic plots as Scooby.

Zach Williams

10-20-2004, 06:57 PM

As for MahouShoujo13 who said Detective Conan was a better series. I'll admit the series has much better mystery than Scooby, but as far great mysteries go, I've seen better. The series also has the same episodic plots as Scooby.

Iff you want entertaining mysteries, watch the first season of Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries. Pure CLASSIC!!!! The second season, well, sucked, with no real mysteries. Detective Conan is really good, so I guess I would take that. But, Scooby, you can watch at anytime.

And, my bad, It was "The New Scooby Doo Mysteries", Not "Movies".
:ack: :eek:

Sidewinder1984

10-20-2004, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Warrior Kitana
Scrappy has always been a character that I neither despised or cared about. He was just sorta...there. That sums it up for me. I actually have fond memories of watching 'Scooby & Scrappy Doo' as a youngster so that balances it all out.

Delia

10-21-2004, 02:16 AM

I hate the sound of the character's voice. I wish they had picked a better voice.

That and the character is always the tough little dude. Isn't that a stereotypical cartoon character?

Zechs

10-21-2004, 08:44 AM

Becuse he's a jerk. When I watched scobby it always seemed like scrappy was forcing scooby to fight. I mean scobby usaly came around on his on ( even if it took a few scobby snacks) But scrappy seemed like a pushy little jerk. Always trying to make scooby do things by force.

AdamYJ

10-21-2004, 11:27 AM

I don't know. I kind of like Scrappy. At least there was a character who actually wanted to take on the "monsters" head on. Personally, I never got why none of them ever tried that. They're always just crooks in masks who never carry any weapons and the Scooby Gang always outnumbered them. After a while, Scooby and Shaggy's cowardice annoyed the heck out of me. Also, Scrappy calmed down a little bit in 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo which made him easier to deal with.

Of course, I've never been much of a Scooby fan. Most of the traditional mysteries were annoyingly formulaic. I always liked it better when the gang went up against REAL monsters rather than crooks in masks, like in 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo or Scooby Doo on Zombie Island.

Julayla_Beryl

10-21-2004, 11:36 AM

Don't forget Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost.

StarScream64

10-21-2004, 12:18 PM

Yeah, I liked the real monsters, too. I think the 13 Ghosts was my favorite of the Scooby shows.

As for the reason behind all the Scrappy hate. Two words: [annoying semi-brooklyn-esque accent shouted in a high-pitched, grating voice] "PUPPY PU-POWER!!!"

I didn't realize just how much Scrappy was hated until I ran across a Shoot Scrappy game on Cartoonnetwork.com

tucsoncoyote

10-21-2004, 04:24 PM

Actually I've viewed a number of Scrappy doo epsidoes in a lot of the Scooby doo Series and I have to speak up on why he's really not very appealing..

First off his "Loose Cannon" Attitude.. that's right Scrappy is a Loose Cannon from the word go.. why? Easy... While the Rest of the people around him (Shaggy, Scooby, Daphne, and even Flim-flam (on the 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo) were trying to either solve the mystery or get out of the way and keep safe, this "Loose Cannon" decided to go in with a "The Devil May Care attitude and tried to take on the villain/ghost/demon head on.. He's sort of a Minature version of "Rambo" with a Rotweiler Attitude trapped in the Body of a Great Dane, even though he is puppy sized..

Second and more importantly was the VA who voiced Scrappy... The VA's who did Scrappy are partially to blame here and in fact they give Scrappy an "Edginess" that really hurt more then helped the character... with Comments Like "Let me at them!" and "Take that Evil Monster!" and "I'll Splattify them!" (Yes I have heard that last one a couple of Times) it's no wonder that Scrappy's disliked...

Third, The Devil May careless, but Scrappy is perhaps one of the most Annoying and least like characters thanks to the first two observations.. after all when you hear his voice, and look at his attitude.. you know he's not going to be liked over even loved.. Frankly he has a Grittiness of Rough Sandpaper and in fact makes you wonder... why did Bill (Hanna) and Joe (Barbera) even consider him to be a character? What was their thought pattern on this..?

all in all he may be a brat, he may be whiny sounding.. but Scrappy should not be disliked.. but sadly he is because Frankly Scrappy probably came from a broken home litter.. (After all he sees Scooby as a Father figure, probably something he didn't have..) even though scooby is a bit of a Coward...

but that's my opinion on this..

:coyote:

Eddie G.

10-21-2004, 05:54 PM

Well here's the thing, any and all Scooby cartoons (Well maybe not Pup, that was decent) aren't very good. And none of the main characters have ever been that great, Scooby and Shaggy were the only sort of interesting characters which explains why Scooby became Shag's dog and Shag is shown a little more than the rest of the gang. So I don't really hate Scrappy since I don't think there was any greatness to destroy, and I think while he's not a great character he is more interesting and fleshed out than oh say... Fred.

The character himself has a pretty poor character design, I can't put my finger on it but something about it doesn't make the character look as cute as he should. He's voice is... okay... it fits but once again they were going for cute and the voice is not that cute. I do like the concept and think he was the best of the Doo family members. He can be funny or fun, but usually he's just a meh character.

I don't see him as a disgrace to the once "great" name, Doo. I think people don't like him mainly because after ...Where Are You? the Scooby shows slowly lost the feel of the original series. By the time Scrappy came on it was just like the franchise was giving you the finger yelling, "Nah, nah, nah, things are different." Of course this would not always apply to people like me who growing up watching the Scooby toons as one big mish mash of all the shows.

Kury Wagner

10-21-2004, 06:00 PM

Otaku Bishop

10-21-2004, 08:37 PM

He's a dork in the show, and a villian in the movie. Duh!

cartoonomac

10-21-2004, 09:40 PM

STARTOUNZ

10-22-2004, 12:11 AM

Second and more importantly was the VA who voiced Scrappy... The VA's who did Scrappy are partially to blame here and in fact they give Scrappy an "Edginess" that really hurt more then helped the character... with Comments Like "Let me at them!" and "Take that Evil Monster!" and "I'll Splattify them!" (Yes I have heard that last one a couple of Times) it's no wonder that Scrappy's disliked...

Scrappy was originally voiced by Len Weinrib, who used the tough guy Brooklyn accent when he did the character in the original Scooby and Scrappy-Doo show. Afterward, he was voiced by the late great Don Messick, who also did Scooby. From that point, he sounded more like a tough version of Pixie the mouse or Ruff the cat. I wouldn't really blame the voice actors though. Scrappy was designed to be a counter to Scooby and Shaggy's cowardice and usually got them into more trouble against the villains as they usually wound up getting him away from them. On some occasions, this helped them to be at least a little braver themselves as they were concerned for his well-being.

My guess is some hated Scrappy because he was the new kid who wasn't needed, and others hated him because he was too brave. I'm one of the few who actually likes him, so I really don't care. He was a good character who added more to the Scooby-Doo series and was one of the reasons why he's had such longevity and is still one of the most popular among the cartoon characters created by Hanna-Barbera.

Toon Capone

10-25-2004, 10:59 AM

I'm not a Scrappy Doo fan, but Flim Flam was way more annoying than Scrappy.

Matthew Williams

10-25-2004, 12:52 PM

I';m not that keen on Scrappy... but I don't think he's the antichrist neither. Certainly not needed.

I think the bigger culprit was that the producers were way too eager to change a winning formula. Those first two seasons were perfect, and then they screw it up by doing the awful Scooby Movies. They were grasping at straws ever since, trying to return to the regular formula with mixed results, then Scrappy, then ditching mysteries, bringing them back, etc...

magicjac

10-25-2004, 05:06 PM

Otaku Bishop

10-27-2004, 09:25 PM

I think scrappy is 1 of the coolest characters on scooby doo. The Scooby doo movie with the blues brother they search for the family jewelys that is the very best scooby doo movie on tv. the coolest. Scrappys the man or in this case the dog.
ya!

:cool: Cartoonomac for classic animation YA!:)
I disagree with you disagreeing with me. He's way to brave, a characteristic only Fred, Daphnae, Velma, and any other guests should have. He's an idiot, a moran, and he was fixed a loooooong time ago. My opinion: the animators who made him need to work on him more.

bat313

10-28-2004, 01:27 PM

I remeber being like 5 or 6 when i started seeing (i think repeats of ) Scooby Doo eps with Scrappy and he bacame my favorite character at that time. And i think that was really the point of him, to attract new and younger fans to an already popular Scooby franchise.

Wanted

10-28-2004, 03:54 PM

If you want a real mystery show, go watch the anime "Case Closed"/"Detective Conan". Much better.Don't tell people what real is. No offense, but everyone has a different meaning of real. And as for Scrappy, he was decent for kids who don't speculate as much, or "I hate Scrappy because he was an annoying ... character who... 'let me at 'em, let me at 'em.' " Get over it. If you dislike it, don't watch it.

Otaku Bishop

10-30-2004, 05:49 AM

Don't forget Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost. Or 'Vampire's Curse'( I think that's it) and 'Alien Invaders'

ThePeterNetwork

10-30-2004, 06:26 PM

After a long-vaunted hiatus of watching classic Scooby episodes, they started airing them back on Kids WB so I watched. I must have seen one or two eps with Scrappy in them, and I decided, "I don't like this," so I never watched another Scrappy episode ever again. Eventually, I stopped watching Scooby alltogether.

Sad, isn't it? :sad:

magicjac

10-30-2004, 06:35 PM

Don't tell people what real is. No offense, but everyone has a different meaning of real. And as for Scrappy, he was decent for kids who don't speculate as much, or "I hate Scrappy because he was an annoying ... character who... 'let me at 'em, let me at 'em.' " Get over it. If you dislike it, don't watch it.
Thank You:)

Gary L Thompson

10-30-2004, 09:45 PM

I never thought Scrappy was all that bad a character (he certainly made far more of a memorable impression than Scooby Dooby Dum ever did, for instance). I think the biggest strike against him is simply timing, all the good Scooby Doo episodes were past by the time he came on the scene, and he has never shared in what few good days the franchise has enjoyed since (like a "Pup Named Scooby-Doo", for instance). Basically, the greatest character ever conceived couldn't have saved any of the episodes Scrappy appeared in, so he has been inevitably linked in the public mind with Scooby Dooby Doo's dreck days.

Prism

10-30-2004, 10:23 PM

Scooby Doo already had it's dreck days well before the debut of Scrappy. Or that's the way it seemed to me what with the generic mysteries, heavily recycled animation and way overused plots. Scooby Doo was generic and formulaic even by 70's Sat AM standards so something had to be done. Shoot I liked it when the monsters were actually real and Scrappy was basically a hyperactive kid who looked up to his Uncle Scooby. What hurt Scooby Doo more then anything was the breaking up of the Mystery Inc gang which coincided with Scrappy's debut. Scrappy was no better or worse then any of the characters in Scooby Doo.