The Official Marvel Animation DVD Thread, Part 1

[James Harvey]

It's time for the 1st installment of the Marvel Animation DVD News Thread, folks! This is the place to post all DVD news, your dream releases any rumored releases, etc! Please keep all DVD talk in here!

For the latest news, check out the newest posts in this thread!

[ZorBrak]

So . . . is Spiderman TAS coming out? if so is FOX handling it please tell me that UNIVERSAL is not becuase they suck if we can all recall the crappy X-MEN DVDs....which I still bought :p ...and Why did Universal release the series instead of FOX that was mean and dissapointing, FOX and UNIVERSAL you mean mean poopie faces! I want season sets! ::cries::

[Eraserhead]

Bakshi's SPIDER-MAN or SPIDER-MAN AND HIS AMAZING FRIENDS certainly would'nt hurt either...Even though they're longshots compared to SPIDERMAN TAS.

[Calhoun07]

I want a full set of Spider Man and His Amazing Friends on DVD. But a Bakshi Spider Man series?? When was that done? Must have been before my time...

[Eraserhead]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I want a full set of Spider Man and His Amazing Friends on DVD. But a Bakshi Spider Man series?? When was that done? Must have been before my time...


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[Spider-Man]

Along time back, Spider-Man Hype! reported that animated Spider-Man DVDs were in the works, and that UNVIERSAL was the likely candidate. That was a long time ago so things have likely changed.

[Joe Tully]

Personally, I'd love to see someone put out the 60s, pre-Herbie Fantastic Four cartoons that someone was looking for on here a while back.

I never knew that Bakshi worked on the old Spidey cartoons!

[James Harvey]

Looks like Disney is putting it's Saban rights to use:

Buena Vista Home Entertainment has announced that Spider-Man: The Ultimate Villian Showdown is coming to VHS ($14.99 S.R.P.) and DVD ($19.99 S.R.P.) on April 30, 2002. The pre-order date is set for March 19th. Here is how they describe the video...

America's #1 superhero, Spider-Man spins a web of animated excitement in SPIDER-MAN: THE ULTIMATE VILLAIN SHOWDOWN, new to Disney DVD and video. Featuring the thrilling origin of Spidey's archenemy the Green Goblin, the webslinger not only goes head-to-head with the Goblin, he takes on the sinister Doctor Octopus, the criminal Kingpin and more of his city's most cunning fiends in "The Ultimate Villain Showdown." Then, discover for yourself how it all began for Spider-Man in this special, full-length animated adventure.

The above will be a compliaiton of various Spider-Man TAS episodes.

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by Jim Harvey
The above will be a compliaiton of various Spider-Man TAS episodes.
This is bad, because the Spider-Man series had entire seasons that were connected together. Episodes all over the place is not the way to go, as it will be confusing to people who haven't seen it before. Hell, it might even be confusing to people the have seen the episodes before.

[James Harvey]

The episodes will be edited togethor and will have parts edited out. I did a bit more digigng and found out that at least two episodes will be from season one, and they were (thankfully) unconnected. The others willbe from season two and three. This means that some parts will be edited to drop subplots.

Thank you, Disney. Thanks alot.

[Calhoun07]

I am not very excited about this. Why can't we just get the episodes uncut and in order?

[James Harvey]

Why? Becuase it'd be to simple and not complicated. And where's the fun in that?

Honestly though, I can understand Disney's attempt to make a 'seamless' movie, but do we really need them too? A set of 13 episodes in a three disc set would be better...

Anyone else want the best episode Night of the Lizard on disc already?

[Joe Wagner]

Geez! I just read Jims post about the new Spidey DVD from Disney - what is up with that?! When did Disney acquire the rights for all of Sabans stuff? 'The Ultimate Villain Showdown' - that's gotta be one of the worst titles I've ever heard. Granted I've lobbied for some Spidey episodes on DVD but they're even editing these espisodes into a movie. From the villains listed the only thing I can think of is the Sins of the Father arc - but these episodes don't even sound like they would make a movie. Why can't they just leave them in episode form and do it that way? What's next, maybe trying to to edit together Power Rangers and Buzz Lightyear to make a better story? Arrgh!!!!!!

-Joe!

[Tim Drake]

Yeah what exactly do they mean by editing several episodes together to make a movie?? Or they cutting and pasting animation with new dialogue?? Sounds like Spiderman all over anyway. That show used more repeated animation than all other shows combined.

[Joe Wagner]

I think they are just taking random episodes and saying that they all flow together as a movie, i seriously doubt that they would create a new movie out of it esp. since there is a new Spidey toon coming out this fall. Just ticks me off that they are going to be cutting scenes out here and there. I never minded some of the same animation scenes in the Spidey toon, actually i remember coming home from school and chilling to fox with Bats and Spidey back to back and then switching to Gargoyles for an hour - those were the days! Someone needs to tell Disney we don't want 48 sequels to every movie they've ever done and to stop killing the things we do want (Spidey season sets, Gargoyles, Team Atlantis, etc...)

-Joe

[ShadowWolf]

Well, i just don't get it.
Can't they see that people want season sets.
Can't they see that season sets sells pretty good.
I'm getting tired of a bunch of suits telling me what I like and what i don't like.
I'm sorry to say this, but I sure will not be buying it.

[Joe Wagner]

As soon as I read Jims article i posted over on the anigen board. I can't believe Disney's pockets are that poor that they would destroy the great work of an entire series just to make a quick buck. Oh wait, nevermind this is the same organization that decided to make a sequel to every animated movie they have except the one that is ready for a sequel (Tarzan)! I would love to have the entire black costume saga on DVD, but not as a movie edited by some suit that has no idea what spidey is all about. Season sets! Season sets! Can someone explain to me why Saban sold to the strip minning organization that is Disney?

-Joe!

[James Harvey]

Yeah - this DVD ruins it. Remember some of the Spidey VHSes that were released awhile back, speficially GOBLIN WAR when they edited togethor 5 GOBLIN episodes (3 Hobgoblin, 2 Green) that had nothing to do with each other? Plus it was probably really confusing to the new regular viewer who likely had no idea about all the changing subplots. In the span of ninety minutes we learn that Peter just met MJ, MJ is now dating Harry, Harry is now insane, and Peter & MJ are engaged....okay...

[Deltamon]

...Holy shnikies.

Disney now wants to slag up OTHER PEOPLE's animated creations, now.

At least when Kid's WB! airs one of its special-themed marathons it doesn't try to mesh them together in a movie-like form and hope to get something watchable outta it! This is madness!

And to think, when I was little, I'd grin from ear to ear in pride whenever someone looked at my caricatures and suggested 'that I should work for Disney'! Nowadays, if someone told me that, I'd take it as an insult :mad: :mad: :mad:

My youth...gone...hope yer happy, ya butchers.

[Joe Wagner]

Yep, I can just imagine what this movie is going to look like. Isn't there some way Marvel could block this from happening? This can't be good for their image of Spidey, esp when they are working so hard to improve it. Why do I have the feeling this movie is going to feel like the 'korean animation' segment from the Clerks cartoon - except for they'll actually be trying.

-Joe

[ZorBrak]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Joe Wagner]

What if we started a petition and contacted Joey Q. to see if he can get this stopped, this is counterproductive all the hard work the people at Marvel have done to get Spidey back on top once again.

-Joe

[ZorBrak]

well, I am almost to pissed to talk without using strong profanity, but I shall try to do so. How STUPID are all these companies?! I am absolutly SICK OF THESE COMPANIES' seamingly endless stupidity and the fact that they use region one as their damn TIOLET. WE WANT SEASON SETS and shows in CRHONOLOGICAL ORDER, I am now very tempeted to make a new petition, but this will be MUCH more braod than my past 2 this will be sent to Fox, Disney, WB, Paramount, Tri Star/Columbia, and whoever else I think of, WE WANT OUR SHOWS IN ORDER . this seamless movie disc sounds SO STUPID, that even the fact that I liked Spider-man TAS second to BTAS, I WON'T BUY THIS POS.

[Caretaker]

I'll have to let my friend know about this. I don't buy anything even remotely resembling "best-of" collections (neither does my friend), and this is close enough that they might as well have called it "best-of".

Ugh. Maybe Disney will get a clue at some point.

[baggins]

How many episodes of Spider-Man were made?. You would have thought Disney of all companies , would have got this right.
All the attention they put into their two disc feature animated classics is excelent.Looks to me like it's just a way to make a quick buck to ,coinside with the Sony may release of the movie.
But this is not like Disney at all. I could't see them doing this with Gargoyles.

[Calhoun07]

Trouble is we on this board are not their demographic. Their demographic is the 6-11 year range or younger, and Disney doesn't think they care if these episodes get season sets in chronological order. Maybe a petition would be in order to let them know there is an audience out there for this stuff. Heck, there is a site we can vote for Kiki on DVD, so apparently they DO care what the fans want. If they didn't, I doubt we would have seen those limited edition tins.

[James Harvey]

Agreed. We're not their demographic. They get more money out of the younger group, believe it or not. Their main focus is on the kids, andf not on the 16 - 24 year olds. We're too old for them there.

[Adam Tyner]

How many episodes of Spider-Man were made?.There were 65 episodes, I believe.

But this is not like Disney at all.What makes you say that? As far as I can recall, this is among the first batches of television series released by Buena Vista (discounting the collector's tin of Davy Crockett). There's nothing to indicate either way what Buena Vista's attitude towards television releases would be, and pointing at some of the two-disc sets for movies that grossed over a hundred million dollars as a reference isn't realistic.

[joshualane]

Spiderman Episode Guide for all those curious:

Season 1
1. Day Of The Chameleon
2. Doctor Octopus: Armed And Dangerous
3. Kraven The Hunter
4. Night Of The Lizard
5. The Spider Slayer
6. The Sting Of The Scorpion
7. The Alien Costume - Pt 1
8. The Alien Costume - Pt 2
9. The Alien Costume - Pt 3
0. The Hobgoblin - Pt 1
11. The Hobgoblin - Pt 2
12. The Menace Of Mysterio
13. The Return Of The Spider Slayers

Season 2
14. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 1: The Insidious Six
15. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 2: Battle Of The Insidious Six
16. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 3: Hydro-man
17. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 4: The Mutant Agenda
18. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 5: Mutants Revenge
19. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 6: Morbius
20. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 7: Enter The Punisher
21. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 8: Duel Of The Hunters
22. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 9: Blade The Vampire Hunter
23. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 10: The Immortal Vampire
24. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 11: Tablet Of Time
25. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 12: Ravages Of Time
26. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 13: Shriek Of The Vulture
27. Neogenic Nightmare, Chapter 14: The Final Nightmare

Season 3
28. (S3E1) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 1: Doctor Strange
29. (S3E2) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 2: Make A Wish
30. (S3E3) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 3: Make A Wish, Part 2 - "Attack Of The Octo-Bot"
31. (S3E4) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 4: Enter the Green Goblin
32. (S3E5) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 5: Rocket Racer
33. (S3E6) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 6: Framed
34. (S3E7) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 7: The Man Without Fear
35. (S3E8) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 8: The Ultimate Slayer
36. (S3E9) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 9: Tombstone
37. (S3E10) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 10: Venom Returns-Part 1
38. (S3E11) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 11: Carnage-Part 2
39. (S3E12) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 12: The Spot
40. (S3E13) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 13: Goblin War
41. (S3E14) Sins Of The Father, Chapter 14: Turning Point
42. (S3E15) Partners in Dangers, Chapter I: Guilty
43. (S3E16) Partners in Dangers, Chapter II: The Cat
44. (S3E17) Partners in Dangers, Chapter III: The Black Cat
45. (S3E18) Partners in Dangers, Chapter IV: The Return Of Kraven
46. (S3E19) Partners in Dangers, Chapter V: Partners
47. (S3E20) Partners in Dangers, Chapter VI: The Awakening
48. (S3E21) Partners in Dangers, Chapter VII: The Vampire Queen
49. (S3E22) Partners in Dangers, Chapter VIII: The Return Of The Green Goblin
50. (S3E23) Partners in Dangers, Chapter IX: The Haunting Of Mary Jane Watson
51. (S3E24) Partners in Dangers, Chapter X: The Lizard King
52. (S3E25) Partners in Dangers, Chapter XI: The Prowler

Season 4
53. (S4E1) The Wedding
54. (S4E2) Six Forgotten Warriors, Chapter I: Six Forgotten Warriors
55. (S4E3) Six Forgotten Warriors, Chapter II: Unclaimed Legacy
56. (S4E4) Six Forgotten Warriors, Chapter III: Secrets Of The Six
57. (S4E5) Six Forgotten Warriors, Chapter IV: The Six Fight Again
58. (S4E6) Six Forgotten Warriors, Chapter V: The Price Of Heroism
59. (S4E7) The Return of Hydro Man, Part One
60. (S4E8) The Return of Hydro Man, Part Two
61. (S4E9) Secret Wars, Chapter I: Arrival
62. (S4E10) Secret Wars, Chapter II: The Gauntlet Of The Red Skull
63. (S4E11) Secret Wars, Chapter III: Doom
64. (S4E12) Spider Wars, Chapter I: I Really, Really Hate Clones
65. (S4E13) Spider Wars, Chapter II: Farewell, Spider-Man

Considering how many multi-part episodes there were, why would Disney need to edit ANYTHING together into some sort of movie for the DVD? Why not just release the Alien Costume 3-parter or the Six Forgotten Warriors 5-parter or the Secret Wars 3-parter? And from what you mentioned Jim, about taking eps from season 2 & 3, that's going to take some serious editing considering every episode of Season 2 & 3 were part of HUGE multi-part storylines. At first, I was happy to see that Spiderman would finally come to DVD, but this, this is NOT what I was hoping for.

[James Harvey]

Same here, joshualane! This series would be perfect for the season sets. I would like to be able to watch Partners in Disguise in one nice long stretch. These could ACTUALLY be released by theme, save the first season. The theme? Their story arcs!! They are perfect for it!! Polygram (who originally has the S-M:TAS rights), would put up new 'Title Credit' text for episodes that were involved in the season storylines. In stead of "Sins Of The Father, Chapter 4: Enter the Green Goblin" they would just have "Enter the Green Goblin".

This is a bad move...

[batwing53]

My favorite episode string was the vampire one with Blade, Morbius, Morbius' mother, Black Cat, and the Punisher. That was ill. And Spider-Man turned into the Six-Armed Spider-Man, than into Man-Spider.

[baggins]

Originally posted by Adam Tyner
There were 65 episodes, I believe.

What makes you say that? As far as I can recall, this is among the first batches of television series released by Buena Vista (discounting the collector's tin of Davy Crockett). There's nothing to indicate either way what Buena Vista's attitude towards television releases would be, and pointing at some of the two-disc sets for movies that grossed over a hundred million dollars as a reference isn't realistic.

No what I mentAdam, was their 2 disc DVD releases of late ,(Snow White etc). All those extras are for the adult fans not for small kids
, surely?.

[baggins]

Thanks for that, Joshualane.I've got all 65 0n tape, but I'd love them all on DVD. After BTAS it's the Bizz.
As I've said ,many times before.The first Studio to release a complete series box set, and it becomes a success.The rest will follow suit.I'm keeping my fingers crossed that one of them(studios) has the balls to try.

[Ricochet]

Does Disney own the Earth? Or maybe just North America, Europe, and Asia? :mad: :p ;)

[mbaker]

I see where your comimg from. Anime companies like Bandai, and ADV have put entire series on DVD, but here in America, we get maybe a few discs with scattered episodes. I plan on getting Atlantis, but after that, never will i give Disney another dime again.

[Mad Monkey 7]

No, Disney doesn't own the earth but AOL Time Wanrer might.

Any way back to the topic. Yes, Disney should release the Spider-Man: animated series as a set but oh well at least the Spider-Man: Animated series will be on DVD. Question: Do Disney own Saban know or it just licensing the programs? I thought that they just bought Fox Family not Saban Entertainment. I wish that Disney would have bought the Jim Henson Company instead.

What next Power Rangers: Season One DVD Box Set?

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by Mad Monkey 7
Yes, Disney should release the Spider-Man: animated series as a set but oh well at least the Spider-Man: Animated series will be on DVD.
I have to disagree with that. Y'see, they are going to completely mangle the episodes they're putting on the disc, so it's worthless for them to do it. It's going to be a crap disc, because of the way the series was set up. Every season had long, drawn-out storylines, and by taking episodes from each of those and editing them together as a MOVIE, they are going to destroy what the episodes were, therefor ruining the series.

[I]Mad Monkey 7 added...[\I]
What next Power Rangers: Season One DVD Box Set?[\I]
I know that would make JohnCrichton very happy! :cool:

[David64ca]

spider-man: animated series on DVD, that's cool.

I know your going to call me crazy for this but JohnCrichton isn't the only one who likes Power Rangers. (Me too)

[joshualane]

Originally posted by baggins
Thanks for that, Joshualane.I've got all 65 0n tape, but I'd love them all on DVD. After BTAS it's the Bizz.
As I've said ,many times before.The first Studio to release a complete series box set, and it becomes a success.The rest will follow suit.I'm keeping my fingers crossed that one of them(studios) has the balls to try.
The upcoming Transformers Season 1 Box Set should be a good test of your theory. I have a feeling that it will do well, but will other companies take notice and start releasing their properties in a similar manner? Let's hope so.

[Joe Wagner]

Actually I'm learning that Disney is more like a dictator-regime. They don't seem to care what the people want (unless it goes completely with what they want), they slaughter their own works and complain when someone does something better than them - instead trying to duplicat another kingdoms success with little success.

-Joe!

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by David64ca
spider-man: animated series on DVD, that's cool.

It would be if Disney was putting it out as a season set and not mangaling the series to create what I'm sure they'll call an "all new animated feature." Stupid Disney and their attempt to destroy all icons that they don't own. I'm sure this is all a cleaver ploy to discredit spidey as a good character so that they can swoop down and buy Marvel. They would then decide that Wolverine isn't kid friendly enough and give him his own animated movie where he becomes best friends with his mortal enemy (watch virtually and Disney animated or non-animated movie to see how often people that can't stand each other become best friends by the end of the show, makes me sick!) and decides that the life of a prince is more like him - becoming entirely socialized into the Disney standard of "Classic" storytelling.


-Joe!

[Keith]

For what it's worth, The Digital Bits (http://www.thedigitalbits.com) mentioned yesterday in their Rumor Mill column that The Transformers: Season One box set would be released in April.

I've got a message in to my contact at Rhino to try to get some more information about this release. Anything that I hear worth passing along will be up on my site.

Unfortunately I wasn't able to upload the news section this morning, but I'll have the info on Transformers and a few other things uploaded either later this evening or tomorrow (that is, if my computer and network don't rebel against me again).

Keith Finch
Editor
Animation on DVD (http://www.animationondvd.com)

[baggins]

It's a start. Although it's not a big a brand name as Batman or Spider-Man , it's good to see that an animated show is getting a whole series box set release.Although Transformers are not my cup of tea , I'll be buying it for a gift for a mate , who is a big fan of them .
Lets hope this is just the start of many animated series getting season box sets.

[Adam Tyner]

I hope Rhino gives the image quality of the Transformers set a little more attention than the individually released discs, which are unacceptably poor. Also, is there anything worse than Rhin-O-Phonic sound?

I'm not sure if Rhino's Transformers set would light a fire under the studios in quite the same way as a release from a more prominent studio like Fox or Buena Vista.

[baggins]

Talking of season box sets.Have Disney any notion of releasing a season box set of Gargoyles?.

[Joe Wagner]

As far as I know Disney has no intention of ever doing anything with the Gargoyles again. I would love to have a season box set of Gargoyles but from Disney's standpoint it isn't profitable. Seeing as how they are the all great and powerful ruler of the copyrights, I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon - if ever. Just another prime example of Disney using their animation resources for the wrong stuff ('In the mind of a Disney animation executive - gee......Snow White 2 vs a new Gargoyles DTV - think what the fans want and go with the oposite decision - Snow White 2, complete with awful plot, it is then!).

-Joe!

[baggins]

I get where your coming from. Disney has this little kid mentality,
unless they are advertising a holiday. All of those second movies (Aladdin, Little Mermaid,Beauty and the Beast) the list goes on and on.None were a patch on the originals. I love most of their animated features, in fact I'll be watching Atlantis on DVD tonight.

You would have thought, with all the diversity that Disney like to get into, they would have, brought out a animated season box set by now.

[Golden Age Flash]

i think I'll just save my money for another series that happens to be coming out in production order ... (at least the first 5 episodes) :D

[James Harvey]

It is such a waste. For an animation pioneer like Disney, you think they'd understand the people's love for animation and actually step forth and put out some great animation sets of their television material.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by baggins
I get where your coming from. Disney has this little kid mentality,
unless they are advertising a holiday. All of those second movies (Aladdin, Little Mermaid,Beauty and the Beast) the list goes on and on.None were a patch on the originals. I love most of their animated features, in fact I'll be watching Atlantis on DVD tonight.

You would have thought, with all the diversity that Disney like to get into, they would have, brought out a animated season box set by now.

One would have liked to think they would have, but they didn't. Of the ones you listed I actually liked Return of Jafar (nothing on the original mind you, but decent) but had no desire to see the other ones. Atlantis is a great movie and a departure from their usual fare - I really enjoyed it, I hope you do to! Another series that is actually fairly decent (except for the incredibly annoying Turk) is The Legend of Tarzan - be warned if you do watch it - it's nowhere near the quality of Gargoyles (a shame becuz this is a toon that could have been great, it's had a couple that were good but nothing truly outstanding with most inching above standard).

-Joe!

[ZorBrak]

Originally posted by Jim Harvey
It is such a waste. For an animation pioneer like Disney, you think they'd understand the people's love for animation and actually step forth and put out some great animation sets of their television material.


well guys, I have some good/bad news. I sent Disney a pretty, how to say, unfriendly letter, informing them of the number of fans who were disgusted by this decision and that their animation properties were not being treated in the most profitable fashon, (specifically mentioning spiderman several times) and that they would make much more profit by following WB's example and releasing their animation shows in chronological volumes and/or boxsets as fans HATE best of sets and theme sets and any other thing they pull out of their ass that isn't in order. Now I have sent letters to Disney DVD before and usually do not get responses back in less than 24 hours if I do at all, but this one was not an automatic pretyped message response like always but I got it fast.
I got a personal repsonse, stating that Disney has begun checking fan reaction of the announcment at many sites (I recommened they check this thread for reaction) and that my recomendations were going to be fowarded to their marketing team as I had made several noteworthy points on the oppurtunities being missed ...they said for "future" marketing decsions though....
which is the bad news, I would guess that means this travesty of a DVD is still being released, but afterwords they may do a double take and release the whole show...or others like Dukctales or Darkwing Duck. They may have written me this letter just so I would hear what I wanted to, but it might possibly be true, can Dinsey really be changed? hmm...and I hate to tell you but I accidnetly deleted the letter while clearing out the gobs of junk mail, but I am not BSing anyone, I really received a letter stating this and I think it may be a good sign.

[Adam Tyner]

Lets hope this is just the start of many animated series getting season box sets....though bear in mind that the Transformers box only includes 16 episodes (wholly unnecessarily spread out over five discs), which is still a far cry from the 65 eps-per-box you've championed elsewhere.

[baggins]

I did't realise that there was only 16 episodes of Transformers.As I said I only bought it for a pal.The 65 episodes of BTAS seems to be a one off where season sets are concerned. The 65 episodes of Spider-man for instance was broke up into 5 series, which I did not know untill the other day.When animation is televised in the U.K they just show episodes in long streches and don't even mention if it's a new series .Sky are the first to advertise The New Batman Adventures, which we have been waiting to see for 4 years.The 65 episodes of BTAS , as you say that most of us want in some kind of series box set. What I want is for WB to come out and say they are commited to releasing all the first series.

If thats a success, hopefully they will release the rest of 109 episodes that they made in each of their season sets.

[Gyro]

Spider-Man was my favorite show. What happened to it anyway? I never saw the last episodes. :(

[baggins]

It's still been shown on Fox Kids , on Sky. In the U.K, anyhow.

[mbaker]

I think this little image is a perfect metaphore of our views toward Disney. It's from the new Howard The Duck comic which pokes fun at Disney. Talk about a conflict of interest.

http://www.cinescape.com/0/bigphoto.asp?file_path=%2Fmultimedia%2FMaster%5FSite%2FComics%2FMaster%5FSiteComics279241%2Ejpg&desc=HOWARD+THE+DUCK+returns%2E%2E%2Esort+of%2E%2E%2Ein+an+all%2Dnew+series+under+Marvel%60s+MAX+imprint%2E

[Joe Wagner]

Well, since it looks like Disney wants to know the consumers opinion for a change I went ahead and created a petition that will show Disney how we all feel. Here it is:

http://www.petitiononline.com/spiDVD/petition.html

-Joe!

[Kenshiroh]

I signed the petition. (2nd person to do so.)

Just to reiterate what everyone else has been saying here: I will NOT buy the recently announced hacked-together Spider-man "movie" DVD, but I would be interested in chronological season boxed sets.

Disney is also butchering movies from Hong Kong and trying to make it illegal for stores in the USA to sell the uncut DVD versions imported from Hong Kong. (You can read more about that here (http://www.hkfilm.net/disney/disney.htm).) So this kind of thing is nothing new for them.

BTW, I have two of the tins that Disney released, "Silly Symphonies" and "Mickey Mouse in Living Color". The SS set apparently has only about half of the SS cartoons that were produced and they are not in chronological order.

According to a post on Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com), some of the cartoons (on both sets) are also edited, despite the claim on the sets that they are "Uncensored".

You can search the Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com) to find the post for all of the details about the cuts.

[Joe Wagner]

Hola everyone!
Well it looks like Disney is looking for opinions (if this is true it would have to be a first :D) and I started a petition asking for Spidey to be released as a season box set. Please sign this as maybe it'll make Disney understand that people don't want the crud they piece together from two differents seasons to call a movie but actually want the entire two seasons (unedited, of course).

The link is:

http://www.petitiononline.com/spiDVD/

-Joe!

[Spider-Man]

As big of a fan that I am , I don't think I'll be touching this with a ten foot poll. This is totally NOT what to do. I want good DVD versions of SM:TAS to replace my horribly taped VHS copies. And this won't suffice.

[Spider-Man]

While it is a good move that Disney is actually listening to people, the question is will they act on those thoughts? For some reason I see this as just a PR stunt. What they did, well doing, to the Spider-Man animated series in unforgiveable beyond words.

[Gyro]

Same here.

[AmazonPrincess]

Along with Wonder Woman and Batman, Spidey has been one of my favorite superheroes since I was a little girl. This is a travesty. SEASON SETS, IN AIR DATE ORDER are the ONLY way to go, and the only way I'll shell out my hard-earned cash. I love disney's product most of the time (all the animated films, for example) but this is just idiotic. I won't be buying any best of sets for shows with story arcs, now or ever.

[Joe Wagner]

Well, the petition currently has about 74 sigs on it so if you haven't signed it yet please do. Maybe it will help convince Disney that we don't want a bunch of clips cut together into what they call a "movie". Here's the link:

http://www.petitiononline.com/spiDVD/petition.html

-Joe!

[baggins]

I hear that Sony are releasing the upcoming Spider-Man movie on DVD in October. :D

[Mr. Unspeakable]

This is not aimed at the kiddie market so much as the mommy market. After the movie is released, all the little yard apes will be screeching for anything with spidey-man and this tape/dvd will be a cheap way to shut them up.

We in the "collector" market will be SOL for a while until it reaches "nostalgia" age like transformers, unless the movie hits LOTR level of popularity. If the movie bombs, chances are you'll never see another Spiderman release from Disney.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Mr. Unspeakable
If the movie bombs, chances are you'll never see another Spiderman release from Disney.

Granted I don't want the movie to bomb - but to never have to see another 'cut and paste' Spidey movie from Disney I would probably give a lot. Also - wouldn't it have been cheaper to throw complete episodes on disk? The way it's set up right now requires them to use man hours in order to cut out certain clips and paste them all together. Maybe we should just call this DVD 'Spider-Man TAS - The Remixed DVD' - probably going to come out as the same quality as Limp Bizkits New Old Songs (I like LB but that cd was awful, much like I expect this movie to be.)

-Joe!

[Adam Tyner]

Also - wouldn't it have been cheaper to throw complete episodes on disk? Two things:

Disney's selling this as an animated movie, which has stronger marquee value (not that video stores have marquees, but you know what I mean :)) than your average Saturday morning cartoon compilation.

Also, the work very well may have been done by Saban (or some other party) before Disney even entered the picture.

[ThePhantomBudget]

I'm wondering if WB has any plans to release X-Men Evolution on DVD? It's nice that they've at least been putting episodes out on home video. (in order, too) But, considering how well the X-Men franchise is doing right now, I'm surprised they haven't made DVD releases of the series yet. Jackie Chan Adventures made it to DVD, though there are different reasons to bring that series out on DVD.

Anybody know any info on this?

-ThePhantomBudget

[joshualane]

They're releasing another VHS tape of the series entitled "X Marks The Spot" on April 23rd (yes, THE April 23rd), but beyond that, I don't think there are any plans for DVD's, which is sad because I would LOVE to have this series on DVD. I know that there are supposed to be more X-Men DVD's of the older series released when the next movie comes out, but that's about it.

[Russkafin]

I don't know if they'd put all the episodes on DVD...at least not without cutting at least one line. The Man-Spider episode has a reference to the World Trade Center bombing that they'd probably censor in this day and age.

[Blight]

I can't believe Disney is actually doing this! Okay, I can believe it, but I don't want to! How hard would it be to just give us some season sets, instead of chopping up episodes and sticking them together and calling it a "new" animated movie?!?! There is only one word for such a crime: evil. Pure evil. Well, I signed the petition. Sure hope it changes Disney's mind!

See ya!
Blight

[Spider-Man]

I agree. Would it be so hard for Disney to release this properly. They are the self-proclaimed pioneers...time to start acting like it.

[Joe Wagner]

If pioneering is seeing how many times they can use different characters in the same plot and call it a new movie - then they are completely right, they would be pioneers! Between that, their destruction of a property I love (Spidey) and the formula that all enemies will become 'best-friends' in almost all of their live action stuff makes me want to gag. Makes you wonder if the people in these offices ever step outside of their cubicles. Who knows - it's probably like the Korean animation segment from the Clerks cartoon series.

-Joe

[joshualane]

Look what's available for pre-order:

Spider-Man:Ultimate Villian Showdown
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000633UA/

I'm actually going to pick this up to see just how badly the series gets cut-up. I'll be sure to post a review for the disc once I get it.

[Adam Tyner]

The brilliant folks at Buena Vista also solicited the disc with a spelling error. It should be "villain", not "villian". Kind of reminds me of the Ambush Bug character Villian The Villain, who decided to become a supercriminal out of the frustration of so many people misspelling 'villain'. :)

The DVD also includes an interview with Stan Lee, a rogue's gallery (the solicitation, not surprisingly, refers to it as an again-misspelled "villian's gallery"), and an episode of the 1967 series ("The Origin Of Spiderman", the first episode of the second season, mistitled "The Origins of Spider-Man" in the solicitation).

[James Harvey]

They're including an old episodes of the 1960's Spidey series? That episode aired not too long ago on TELETOON actually. Can't say I'm surprised by the lack of extras on the disc. Glad to see Disney being so ignorant here...:)

[Adam Tyner]

Can't say I'm surprised by the lack of extras on the disc. Glad to see Disney being so ignorant here...Actually, that's a pretty decent assortment of supplements, especially for a budget disc. It's unrealistic to expect each and every DVD to be a loaded special edition.

[James Harvey]

Originally posted by Adam Tyner
Actually, that's a pretty decent assortment of supplements, especially for a budget disc. It's unrealistic to expect each and every DVD to be a loaded special edition.

I know that, but I just figured there'd be a bit more. I woul dlove to see any behind the scenes stuff - any at all. A Stan Lee interview will likely be under 5 minutes, no trailer listings, and an episode of the old series. It's not much, but it's also not nothing. I jusat figured there'd be a bit more...stuff.

[Spider-Man]

This disc is on par with Disney's video releases. Nothing big, but not a complete waste of money. I would have liked to have seen a featurette on the comics, especially with ASM #36 recently out a few months back.

[Gyro]

I know there's a Ultimate Villain's Showdown thing coming out, but wouldn't you rather have the whole sereis on DVD? I know I would. The Spider-Man series is one of my favorite shows ever. I remember watching it on FOX Kids every morning when I was little. Those were good times. :)

[Joe Wagner]

Wouldn't count on it. Disney recently bought the rights to all of Sabans properties and doesn't seem to keen on actually making the fans happy. Basically as long as they get the marketability of a new Spidey movie (pasted and cut together as it may be) I don't think they'll be releasing it on DVD as season sets. They haven't even released their own series on DVD yet - mainly the greatness that was Gargoyles.

-Joe!

[Spider-Man]

I doubt we'll ever see it, if the first Spider-Man DVD is any indication. It's a travesty what they have done. A mockery!

[GrayGhost]

Originally posted by jjwspider
Wouldn't count on it. Disney recently bought the rights to all of Sabans properties and doesn't seem to keen on actually making the fans happy. Basically as long as they get the marketability of a new Spidey movie (pasted and cut together as it may be) I don't think they'll be releasing it on DVD as season sets. They haven't even released their own series on DVD yet - mainly the greatness that was Gargoyles.


Disney is making me happy. Spider-man and Power Rangers re-runs on ABC Family :) :) :)

I wish they would release Spidey though by season volumes, that would rock. However, little kids, which they assume their market is, won't buy em... I want Power Ranger ones even more...

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by GrayGhost


Disney is making me happy. Spider-man and Power Rangers re-runs on ABC Family :) :) :)

I wish they would release Spidey though by season volumes, that would rock. However, little kids, which they assume their market is, won't buy em... I want Power Ranger ones even more...

The only reason I have been happy with Disney lately is by their airing of Spidey and X-men on ABC Family and airing Gargoyles on Toon Disney. Past that they've found a way to probably guarantee we'll never see Spidey complete seasons on DVD (tape 'em now everyone!) same with X-Men and Gargoyles. They've also gone on a crazy DTV craze and have only one glimmer (ok two) after they killed the Team Atlantis series - Lilo and Stitch and Treasure Planet.

-Joe!

[Apache Chief]

Don't hold your breath. Season sets would be great, especially since teh later seasons tied together. but this "villians" thing is obvious attepmt to capitalize on the film - Green Goblin is on the cover isn't he? The really sad part is, I'll be buying it the day it comes out anyway...

[grim15]

you heard me on april 30th foxs spiderman the animated series will be on dvd the dvds name is ultimate villian showdown

[Joe Wagner]

Yes - except for it's a cut and paste "movie" that features scenes from virtually every season and is almost sure to offend any fan of the 90's Spidey toon.

-Joe!

[GrayGhost]

Originally posted by jjwspider
Yes - except for it's a cut and paste "movie" that features scenes from virtually every season and is almost sure to offend any fan of the 90's Spidey toon.

-Joe!

Exactly why I am not buying it.

I would buy it is it was at least full episodes, no cut and paste. Even it was like "Best of Green Goblin" dvd or something.

[Bleu Unicorn]

Originally posted by GrayGhost


Exactly why I am not buying it.

I would buy it is it was at least full episodes, no cut and paste. Even it was like "Best of Green Goblin" dvd or something.
Same here. It's kind of sad what they did. I'm with the consensus here -- I would have bought it if it was full episodes, but this is just not worth it to me.

-- Uni

[Apache Chief]

We're in a tricky spot. If we all buy it and it sells well, we're sending the message that were happy with this cut and paste junk. On the other hand, if we don't buy it, we send the message to the clueless suits that Spider-Man cartoon DVDs don't sell well, and we'll never see season sets. Sigh...

Let's face, this thing is being rushed out to capitalize on the film. I'll pick it because some Spider-Man is better than none, but in a perfect world, we'd see season one instead...

[Spider-Man]

I'm sure the DVD will feature full episodes, but episodes pasted togethor to form some sort of coherent movie. I'm eager to see the DVD Reviews for this one. What bugs me is that alot changed in a season, or even a few episodes. So if episodes from various seasons are stuck togethor, it could get really bumpy and confusing...and fast!

Post #200!

[grim15]

i dont care how it is im gonna buy it ny because im a big fan of good ol spidey

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Apache Chief
We're in a tricky spot. If we all buy it and it sells well, we're sending the message that were happy with this cut and paste junk. On the other hand, if we don't buy it, we send the message to the clueless suits that Spider-Man cartoon DVDs don't sell well, and we'll never see season sets. Sigh...



The only thing is that we're facing the suits at Disney that will remain clueless no matter what we do. If we buy this movie we can almost assuredly see another one and they might even dig down further and bring us a new classic "X-Men at the House of Mouse". Do we ever want to see this? The answer is no and personally with Disney at the helm I have little hope that we will ever see a season set of Spidey, X-Men, Silver Surfer, Spidey Unlimited, Xyber 9, Fantastic Four, Iron Man and Gargoyles.

Perhaps more than any other movie company out there Disney refuses to appease their fans by destroying their classics and the classics of other organizations.

EDIT-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Check this link (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29152) to see another Disney policy on Pan and Scan - except for they are giving the people a chance to be heard. If you want to get season sets of Spidey, X-men and/or Gargoyles e-mail Disney's marketing department at disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com and tell them what you want. It could be the best shot of ever getting our voice heard and finally seeing these great toons on DVD in a non cut and paste form.

-Joe!

[Christopher N. Denner]

Whatever they are... they can't be any worse than Universal's X-Men DVDs. Did they ever releave what the marketing execs were smoking when they released those DVD covers?




:p

[mbaker]

I have A theory on why they made this movie. They might be testing the waters, to see if theres A market for the series. The series never had an animated theatrical, or video movie, unless you count some of the multi part episodes. (Why they didn't choose something like the three part "Venom" story is beyond me.) where as Batman had one theatrical animated movie ("Mask Of The Phantasm") and three video movies. ("Subzero", "Worlds Finest", and "Return Of The Joker") I hope this helps.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by spooie
Whatever they are... they can't be any worse than Universal's X-Men DVDs. Did they ever releave what the marketing execs were smoking when they released those DVD covers?
:p

True the X-Men video covers were bad but at least they didn't destroy the episodes on the disk - instead presenting entire story arcs. Disney on the otherhand has taken it upon themselves to cut clips out of a handful of episodes and make sure that every villain appears. It's terrible because a) the movie won't be near the quality of a good animated movie (altho Disney is getting quite good a making cheap animated movies - by cheap I mean in quality) and b) if we buy this disk then they will figure people don't mind seeing Spidey chopped to bits and released as a "new movie".

-Joe!

[Russkafin]

Has there been any indication of which episodes are being used to make the "movie"? I'm a huge fan of this series (check out reruns on Saturday morning on ABC Family if you get that channel), and as much as I hate the fact that we are getting this instead of season sets, I'm very intregued as to how they are going to pull off taking pieces of episodes and making them into any kind of coherant movie. I may pick up the disc just to see what they did.

[Christopher N. Denner]

Originally posted by jjwspider


True the X-Men video covers were bad but at least they didn't destroy the episodes on the disk - instead presenting entire story arcs. Disney on the otherhand has taken it upon themselves to cut clips out of a handful of episodes and make sure that every villain appears. It's terrible because a) the movie won't be near the quality of a good animated movie (altho Disney is getting quite good a making cheap animated movies - by cheap I mean in quality) and b) if we buy this disk then they will figure people don't mind seeing Spidey chopped to bits and released as a "new movie".

-Joe! sorry. I was under the impression that they were just random eps. my mistake.

It would indeed be horrible as cropped up movie. But it might not be unwatchable... much like "TMNT: The Epic Begins" was rather enjoayable as a whole and still missing 40 minutes of footage.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by spooie
sorry. I was under the impression that they were just random eps. my mistake.

It would indeed be horrible as cropped up movie. But it might not be unwatchable... much like "TMNT: The Epic Begins" was rather enjoayable as a whole and still missing 40 minutes of footage.

While "The Epic Begins" was 40 mins later it didn't try to include the Nutrinos, Krang, Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, the Mousers, Baxter Fly, Leatherneck, etc...all in one movie. Unfortunately "The Ultimate Villain Showdown" is going to include Doc Ock, the Green Goblin and even the giant rollerball (clips from the episode that introduced the Rocket Racer). The best part about this DVD is probably going to be the 1967 Origin of Spidey feature. The Goblin clip looks like it's from the first Green Goblin appearance and the Doc Ock looks like its from the episode where he brainwashes Spidey into helping him commit a bunch of crimes and he's saved by the cop and the little girl he had met early that day. Tis a shame to see Disney do such a miserable thing to such a great show.

Here is a link to the trailer (http://video.go.com/spiderman/) for the DVD.

-Joe!

[Christopher N. Denner]

thanks for the link, but the trailer won't load right for me... either 4 of them.

:mad:

[cjshoup]

Originally posted by mbaker
I have A theory on why they made this movie. They might be testing the waters, to see if theres A market for the series. The series never had an animated theatrical, or video movie, unless you count some of the multi part episodes. (Why they didn't choose something like the three part "Venom" story is beyond me.) where as Batman had one theatrical animated movie ("Mask Of The Phantasm") and three video movies. ("Subzero", "Worlds Finest", and "Return Of The Joker") I hope this helps.

Sounds Reasonable. Very good theory.

[Spider-Man]

I saw the trailer and I'm a bit mixed. It's obvious some clips are from the intro. I bet for sure we'll see ENTER THE GOBLIN, THE INSIDIOUS SIX...and...hmm...Those episodes aren't really connected to any other episodes, except for Connor's throw away comment at the end of INSIDIOUS SIX. What else could be on there?

[James Harvey]

If this compilation is for the 'Ultimate Villian Showdown', then what the heck is Rocket Racer doing in this? At first I thought it would be a bunch of full length episodes tied togethor. Now...I'm not so sure...

[Joe Wagner]

I seriously doubt Rocket Racer will even show up - they'll probably just have Spidey webslinging, see a giant ball running over things and have him stop it. Right after he stops it he'll probably try to websling away and get attacked by the Green Goblin or something. I really wish someone at Disney would have stopped this before it ever saw the light of day. :mad:

-Joe!

[Ryoken]

Is there any hope for x-men evolution dvds? i gotta see this series in a dvd!

[DarthNuriko]

Ditto here. Recording a show doesn't compare to having it on disc.

[Sandoz]

I seriously want Evolution on dvd. I especially would like to see the "uncut" Growing Pains, with the scene of Lance saving Kitty intact. (I'm a major Lance fan--see avatar ;) )

[James Harvey]

Funny - I was talking to Boyd Kirkland about this awhile back and he wants to see some DVDs, too. So far only VHS's have been released and that may actually be hurting sales.I want some X:E DVDs, too.

[DarthNuriko]

It would rock if we could get DVDs that included Voice Actor interviews. I always drool when I get to see those. :D

[Sandoz]

Originally posted by Jim Harvey
Funny - I was talking to Boyd Kirkland about this awhile back and he wants to see some DVDs, too. So far only VHS's have been released and that may actually be hurting sales.I want some X:E DVDs, too.

Considering Evo is Kid's WB's highest rated show, it makes sense that it would be released on dvd, especially when junk like Jackie Chan Adventures is. And the fans definetly want them. *SIGH* :( I want my uncut Growing Pains!

[Ryoken]

I got the uncut growing pains on tape , as in south america , censorship isn that extreme , and i must say , having that scene deleted really messed hit the show , as fans didnt get how lance and kitty got on good terms , also , teres more than the lance/scene deleted from that episode , and i stil dont know why , its nothing really violent or sumthing.(the scenes arent like a dbz minor fight sequence)

[Sugar Daddy]

I would get it too. I watched a ep recently, with Captain America, and it was really good. I normally don't watch this show, but I'd definetly pick up DVDs.

[Joe Wagner]

I'm kind of surprised that WB hasn't released a bunch of DVD's to coincide exactly with the VHS versions. After all DVD is the wave of the future - I wonder who missed the memo at WB?

-Joe!

[Brainiac]

I was wondering if there was any news of subsequent Spider-Man:TAS DVDs coming out...I know there were some problems with "Ultimate Villain Showdown," but I think it was one of the best animated out there in terms of special features and design. So, any plans to make some more that you guys know of???

~Brainiac

[BlackCat]

I'm hoping that Disney does decide to. Even if they don't, you can always catch it every weekend on ABC Family aong with other quality shows like X-Men and The Incredible Hulk. ;)

[jared262]

well i'm not sure but i'm assuming that there is another in the works, according to a post at dvdfile.com, Spiderman: The return of the Green Goblin seems to be the title of it.

[James Harvey]

Here's a small update on the new Spider-Man animated DVD from Disney. There are no details on the extras but I'm hoping for something...

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40949

[Spider-Man]

Shoot - still no season sets. Well, I guess another compilation disc will have to hold me over, I suppose. And I'm not surprised about the Green Goblin tie in. I hope this means we get 'Turning Point' at least. One downside is all the things that changed in the series, status quo wise, may be confusing to some viewers.

[Stu]

I'm thinking that at least these 2 episode will be on the disc

Goblin wars
Turning Point

The episodes after that were "Guilty" and a 2 parter telling the origin of the Black Cat. They really don't have much to do with Goblin. There was an episode called "Return Of The Green Goblin" but that was Harry Osborn not Norman. The episode mentioned was released on the region 2 DVD of the ultimate villian showdown.

[Adam Tyner]

Its $30 list price is laughable if there aren't a substantial number of episodes on the disc(s).

[oranthal]

so it is another compilation this time centering on green goblin. will anyone buy this? people bought "ultimate vllian showdown" because they hope that that would lead to spiderman season set DVD. considering this is another compilation, will you continue to buy it in hopes that disney will listen to the fans for season sets? or will you not buy it which can lead to disney thinking that there is not interest in the animated series. will disney think that because the compilation episodes sell well that they think it is what the fans want?

[Joe Wagner]

Personally I'll be happy with the release if it continues to have the episode arcs in order - with any luck there will be at least four episodes they will put on the disk though. I know that I for one will be picking this DVD up basically as soon as it's released. As great as a box season set would be I don't see the Mouse House releasing one any time soon (if ever). Until then I will continue to throw my money at the animated Batman and Spider-Man releases.

-Joe!

[ZorBrak]

I sent them a very long letter with stats, telling them season sets would be more profitable, I got a very long, professional non automated letter 2 weeks later saying they had strongly considered the facts I sent them, and that they would look into the idea if the first disc were to be profitble.....DAMN IT! I was so excited the movie was coming because I knew Fox would capitalize on it's succes with seaosn sets, and then imagine my horror when I found out DISNEY of all companies had the rights...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! and now to find all my efforts failed...again akk!::IS FURIOUS::

[BlackCat]

I am content because I have seen them all many times, and also they are showing it again on ABC Family from 2 different points in the series. I am currently recording them. Anybody else? :)

[Joe Wagner]

Oh yeah - I've been recording the Spider-Man Animated Series since it premeired and am actually really excited about a second DVD release from Disney. In my eyes the first animated Spidey released really showed that Disney cares about the property as they were willing to jam it full of extras and interviews with Stan "The Man" Lee. If they can do it again I would say that the DVD would be more than worth my money.

-Joe!

[Stu]

The Stan Lee special features were not recorded for the DVD. I have seen Stan say these things on several programs promoting Spider-man (the movie). If we do get more features this time I hope someone talks to the producers or the director. An audio commentary with John Semper would be great. It is hard to find anything on him and I read an interview with him on the internet once, it was very interseting to hear his thoughts on the animation, the editing, hopw he was treated, Foxs censorship, and what else he wanted to do with the series. He wanted to do a beetle episode and in Secret Wars the Lizard was originally supposed to be the Hulk. If there was only 1 specail feature this is what it should be.

[joshualane]

Update on price, street date, and disc description:

http://www.animatedbliss.com/#monday

Title: Spider-Man Return of the Green Goblin
Language: English
Street Date: 10/29/2002
SRP: $19.99

Content
It's double the action, double the thrills and double the goblins as Spider-Man is unmasked and tangled in a web of treachery in this amazing animated adventure.

The webslinger has his hands full when the dreaded Green Goblin returns and wages an all-out battle with the Hobgoblin and a host of other Super-Villians for control of the city.

Capture all the thrills of America's greatest crime-fighter in Spider-Man: The Return Of The Green Goblin. Available October 29th for the first time on Video and DVD.

[Cogliostro]

Thanks joshualane for the little update. I will most likely be getting this one as well...

[Brainiac]

Well, that settles it--'Goblin War' & 'Turning Point' are definitely on the DVD--but do you think they'll include 'The Spot' as a background to the time dilation accelerator? And what about 'The Return of the Green Goblin' episode & 'Wedding,' which does feature a bunch of other villains (at least, in 'Wedding')?

Brainiac

[czyznyck99]

A five-episode collection? Didn't another animated show try this a while ago... ;) ?

I might consider buying the DVD if it contained those five episodes, though. ABC Family has messed up with episode order from the beginning, but this time it doesn't do that much harm. The Black Cat saga by itself can be eliminated and move right to MJ's return, but "The Wedding" would be a little more weird. How does MJ know Spidey's identity? Who asked to marry who? Things like that.

Later.

[Stu]

How does MJ know Spidey's identity? Who asked to marry who? Things like that.

They could do a "previously on Spider-man" segment. Or with the amount of flashbacks in the series it may have been told in the episode. I hope this DVD is uncut. The last one wasn't as I noticed when Spider-man first met the Green Goblin and they were fighting on his glider the glider went thru some buildings while Spidey said something like "agility one point, gravity zero". I hate it when they edit anything. I am currently enjoying the re runs of the series on Up On The Roof here in the UK as they are unedited and I have only seen the edited ones.

[James Harvey]

Originally posted by The Red Bird


They could do a "previously on Spider-man" segment. Or with the amount of flashbacks in the series it may have been told in the episode. I hope this DVD is uncut. The last one wasn't as I noticed when Spider-man first met the Green Goblin and they were fighting on his glider the glider went thru some buildings while Spidey said something like "agility one point, gravity zero". I hate it when they edit anything. I am currently enjoying the re runs of the series on Up On The Roof here in the UK as they are unedited and I have only seen the edited ones.

Actually, that scene wasn't edited. The scene you see, with the glider flying away with debris falling off it, is stock footage used from a later sequence in the episode. There's nothing cut in that scene. I'm not sure how edited Spider-Man is in the UK, but it's unedited here.

[The Overlord]

The people at Spider-Man hpye have reported that extras on the Spider-Man: The Return of the Green Goblin DVD will be It says the disc will include the classic 1967 animated episode, along with 'The Rogue's Challenge' and interviews with co-creator Stan Lee. The story can be found at: http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/news/spiderman.cgi?newsid1028665204,55840,

[Stu]

Am I right in thinking that Disney own all the episodes of all the Spider-man cartoons? If so why are we not getting some Spider-man and his amazing friends on DVD? I know that there was one episode called "The Revenge Of The Green Goblin" or something along those lines because I used to have it on VHS. Why limit the DVD to just the animated series of the 90's. A lot of people liked the 80's series a lot more. I personally would love to see some of the older series released on DVD. They could even put some of the Spider-man Unlimted episodes on the disc. If Disney really want to cash in (and they do) this would be a great way to do it.

[Brainiac]

Actually, they're including "The Revenge of the Green Goblin" episode (not from the '90's) on the upcoming DVD, if I'm not mistaken...


-Brainiac

[Matthew Williams]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Am I right in thinking that Disney own all the episodes of all the Spider-man cartoons? If so why are we not getting some Spider-man and his amazing friends on DVD? I know that there was one episode called "The Revenge Of The Green Goblin" or something along those lines because I used to have it on VHS. Why limit the DVD to just the animated series of the 90's. A lot of people liked the 80's series a lot more. I personally would love to see some of the older series released on DVD. They could even put some of the Spider-man Unlimted episodes on the disc. If Disney really want to cash in (and they do) this would be a great way to do it.

Yes, Disney does own the rights to every Spider-Man series except the one in development-- they acquired them in the Fox Family acquisition last year.

As for the fact that they're sticking to the 90s series, remember that that series is the closest one--in tone--to the movie and the character. If they want to cash in on the popularity of the movie and the character, which they do, the 90s series is the best bet. 60s portrayed him as more of a noble hero, 80s solo Spidey was just plain uninspired(save for a theme that outdoes the 60s one, imho), Amazing Friends had him as part of a team, and Unlimited stuck him on a different planet.

I'd love to see Amazing Friends and Spidey '67 on DVD, but I'm content with the 90s series for now.

[JTurner954]

X-Men episodes on DVD, particularly X-Men Evolution??

The X-Men movie did do well,right?? I mean there will still be a X-Men: Special Edition coming out,right?? If Spiderman episodes were released with extras, it seems only fair to do the same with X-Men.

[Christopher N. Denner]

Well, there actually are those horrible Universal Xmen DVDs I've heard about.

I wouldn't mind getting the first 35 or so episodes of Xmen... in the right order... released on DVD.

[joshualane]

Three X-Men Animated DVD's have been released:

X-Men - The Phoenix Saga
X-Men - Reunion/Out Of The Past
X-Men - Sanctuary/Proteus/Weapon X

Go do a search on Amazon for "X-Men" in the DVD section and they'll be there. Don't pay too much attention to the covers though, they don't really represent what's on the discs.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Christopher N. Denner
Well, there actually are those horrible Universal Xmen DVDs I've heard about.

I wouldn't mind getting the first 35 or so episodes of Xmen... in the right order... released on DVD.

The only thing I found bad about them was the fact there was no extra features and the cover art was waaaay off. Other than that if you're a fan of X-Men TAS you owe it to yourself to pick up the three DVD's that are already out - the episodes look as good as they did the first time they aired on TV - way back when.

-Joe!

[James Harvey]

The cover art was horrible, and ony one disc had cover art to match the insides. Hulk VS. Juggernaut -- hunh? Magneto VS. Sentinels on the Phoenix Saga cover? Un-Hunh. I can live without special features. I Know ther eis some behind the scenes fe becuase some aired during a special prime time edition of X-Men. But all I want, in the end, are the episodes. X-Men doesn't have as rich a history behind it like Batman does.

I heard Universal has more X-Men DVDs on the way, at least three, but now that Disney Owns Saban...it's hard to say...

[JTurner954]

That stinks about the lack of extras.

It just seems that with the success of the X-Men and Spiderman movies and with the special edition X-Men coming out (when is it coming out?), there should be extras about the TV show with more DVD's.

[Christopher N. Denner]

Well, in all honesty I have not seen the DVDs myself. I had *heard* the transition was not great, I know the covers suck... and the episdoes are in no logical order at all. So I passed on them.

[James Harvey]

The episodes are in completely random order. There's no theme or anything. Just 5 episodes plopped onto a disc. The transfer isn't 100% great, but it's better than what's on TV. It's a nice digital transfer that would've been a bit better.

[Stu]

That cover looks cool! :)

[Sandoz]

At a recent covention in L.A, the creative team behind X-Men: Evolution revealed plans to release Season 2 on DVD around May 2003. It'll be about 5 episodes per disc, and several episodes will have scenes never before seen in America! :D I know I'm excited! :D

[Cyporiean]

Why Season 2?

[Sandoz]

Because it did better in the ratings than Season 1. Hopefully the whole show will get the DVD treatment if it does well.

[James Harvey]

Can you give a source for this? I'd like to pursue this story a bit more, but if there's anychance you can show us the source?

And I find the 'better ratings in season two' excuse a bit flimsy...but this is Kids'WB!...and I would like to have 'Day of Reckoning' in beautiful digital format.

Edit: I found the link here:

http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/showarticle.php?threadid=11505&postid=290943

Enjoy! (Where's season one??)

[Simpler Simon]

Do my eyes decieve me? Have I read indeed read correctly? If so, this is EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT news!!!!!!!!!!! Along with the news of the developing batman dtv and the teen titans series, this really shows that WB is paying attention to their animated properties! And it's not just a few episodes, but a whole season? I'm not a frequent viewer of X-Men: Evolution, but if you're going to give us the whole season, I'm very tempted to pick it up. This gives me great hopes for further releases for other properites like Batman and Superman, and even -GASP- restores my faith in WB a little further.... :eek:

[czyznyck99]

I will believe this when I see it. I have been let down by hopes of season sets in the past. I need some DVDs for my DVD player already.

Later.

[joshualane]

Hey Sandoz, were you at the convention and if so, did they specifically say we were getting a full season 2 set, ie, all 17 eps in a nice shiny box? Or did they just say DVD's were coming and that they were of Season 2?

I'm excited at the prospect of X-Men Evolution on DVD, but after reading the X-FAN article, it doesn't sound like we're getting a set. It sounds more like DVD's are going to be released and they will contain Season 2 eps, but it doesn't say anything about a full DVD set of them.

[Joe Wagner]

I've been adamantly wondering where the X-Men Evo DVD's were and am glad to finally have some confirmation that there is finally going to be a release for the series. While I wished that they would start with season 1 and that they are released by seasons I can't wait to finally add some X-Men Evo DVD's to my collection. Now if we could only get a Static Shock release and some more BTAS, STAS, BB and JLTAS releases......

-Joe!

[Looney]

X-Men Evolution on DVD???? Great news! I do find it odd that they would begin releasing the series beginning with season 2; but then again is that just like WB? I am not complaining, but once again the decision is beyond my comprehension. I agree with the other posters; let's hope the WB remembers B:TAS and S:TAS. With the Teen Titans, Duck Dodgers, Superman Movie and The Looney Tunes catalogue possibly released in the near future things seem to be looking up. Here's to hoping X-Men Evolution season one is released!

[Bleu Unicorn]

Hmm, interesting.

Odd that they are releasing Season 2 first, I think. Granted I'm not complaining, Season 1 was definitely the weaker of the two (I didn't really enjoy many of Season 1's episodes). But it still strikes me as odd.

I'm excited to hear this -- maybe this is a clue we'll be seeing more Warner Bros. dvds in the near future (BTAS anyone? STAS? BB? etc. etc. etc.).

I think the coolest thing is we'll get the full season! :D How neat is that?

Happy day!

[Lunacat]

:eek: This is just great news! YES! YES! YES! I've been waiting so long for this day to come! I doubt they'll be real expensive, so that is a big plus right there and also the cut scenes restored. I can't wait for this release! Wonder if there will be any nifty extra features?

[James Harvey]

According to a couple sources, the DVD will contain the following episodes:

"Growing Pains"
"Bada-Bing Bada-Boom!"
"Power Surge"
"Fun and Games"
"Beast of Bayville"

As prevbiously reported, the DVD will contain the original cuts to the eisodes, which were edited after September 11th. The episodes were at re-edited and recomposed, substansially a few times, to cut out some violence and destruction.

[AntOOny]

This is good, and bad at the same time. Notice that most studios are starting to release (compilation) dvds to go along with live-action films. I don't believe they are "testing" the market anymore, but rather just trying to make a quick buck. Warner released quite a few compilation Scooby toons when the movie came out, Disney released some Spider-Man episodes, and Universal just released "The Mummy: Quest for the Lost Scrolls" to along with the release of "The Scorpion King."

I still hope for box sets, but the way things are going, I'm pretty sure all we are going to get are compilation dvds to popular titles like Spider-Man, Superman, X-Men, etc. I think FOX and RHINO are the only studios being true to animation on dvd.

Just my $0.02.

[oranthal]

how very Warner of them to release the second season first. anyway, i will not be buy the x-men:evo DVD's. i don't like the series that much to warrant a DVD purchase.

[Storm]

This is cool news :D I can't wait for these to come out. I'll probably have enough money to buy two or three.

[Stu]

According to comics2film.com the disc will feature the first 5 episodes of the second series and will have deleted scenes. They had better be animated. I get the impression they are. Hopefully some audio commemtaries wouldn't go a miss either.

[Stu]

Heres the list

1 Night of the Lizard
2 The Sting of the Scorpion
3 The Spider Slayer
4 The Return of the Spider-Slayers
5 The Menace of Mysterio
6 Doctor Octopus Armed and Dangerous
7 The Alien Costume, Part One
8 The Alien Costume, Part Two
9 The Alien Costume, Part Three
10 Kraven The Hunter
11 The Hobgoblin, Part One
12 The Hobgoblin, Part Two
13 Day of the Chameleon
14 The Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 1
15 Battle of the Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 2
16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4
18 Mutants Revenge: Neogenic Nightmare Part 5
19 Morbius: Neogenic Nightmare Part 6
20 Enter The Punisher: Neogenic Nightmare Part 7
21 Duel of the Hunters: Neogenic Nightmare Part 8
22 Blade the Vampire Hunter: Neogenic Nightmare Part 9
23 The Immortal Vampire: Neogenic Nightmare Part 10
24 Tablet of Time: Neogenic Nightmare Part 11
25 Ravages of Time: Neogenic Nightmare Part 12
26 Shriek of the Vulture: Neogenic Nightmare Part 13
27 The Final Nightmare: Neogenic Nightmare Part 14
28 Doctor Strange: Sins of the Fathers Part 1
29 Make a Wish: Sins of the Fathers Part 2
30 Attack of the Octobot: Sins of the Fathers Part 3
31 Enter the Green Goblin: Sins of the Fathers Part 4
32 The Rocket Racer: Sins of the Fathers Part 5
33 Framed: Sins of the Fathers Part 6
34 The Man Without Fear: Sins of the Fathers Part 7
35 The Ultimate Slayer: Sins of the Fathers Part 8
36 Tombstone: Sins of the Fathers Part 9
37 Venom Returns: Sins of the Fathers Part 10
38 Carnage: Sins of the Fathers Part 11
39 The Spot: Sins of the Fathers Part 12
40 Goblin Wars: Sins of the Father Part 13
41 The Turning Point: Sins of the Father Part 14
42 Guilty: Partners In Danger Part 1
43 The Cat: Partners In Danger Part 2
44 The Black Cat: Partners In Danger Part 3
45 Return Of The Kraven: Partners In Danger Part 4
46 Partners: Partners In Danger Part 5
47 The Awakening: Partners In Danger Part 6
48 The Vampire Queen: Partners In Danger Part 7
49 The Return Of The Green Goblin Partners In Danger Part 8
50 The Haunting Of Mary Jane: Partners In Danger Part 9
51 Lizard King: Partners In Danger Part 10
52 The Prowler: Partners In Danger Part 11
53 Wedding
54 Six Forgotten Warriors - Chapter 1 : Six Forgotten Warriors
55 Six Forgotten Warriors - Chapter 2 : Unclaimed Legacy
56 Six Forgotten Warriors - Chapter 3 : Secrets of the Six
57 Six Forgotten Warriors - Chapter 4 : The Six Fight Again
58 Six Forgotten Warriors - Chapter 5 : The Price of Heroism
59 The Return of Hydro-Man - Part 1
60 The Return of Hydro-Man - Part 2
61 Secret Wars - Chapter 1 : Arrival
62 Secret Wars - Chapter 2 : The Gauntlet of the Red Skull
63 Secret Wars - Chapter 3 : Doom
64 Spider Wars - Chapter 1 : I Really, Really Hate Clones
65 Spider Wars - Chapter 2 : Farewell, Spider-Man

Please note that these are in production order and not the order that they aired in. I've but the ones that are being released on DVD IN RED. And the ones rumoured in purple

[BlackCat]

I would love to see the Partners in Danger arc on DVD. That has to be my favorite season, and it includes one of my favorite characters in Spider-Man. Can you guess? :p

[Zebi]

Well, I'd like to see *all* of the episodes make it to DVD, but in the meantime I'll pick "Doctor Octopus Armed and Dangerous," one of my favourites.

[Russkafin]

I would love to see all of them in season sets... but especially Six Forgotten Warriors, Secret Wars, and Spider Wars.

[joshualane]

I wonder if they will release a Spider-Man "X-Men" DVD in May when the X-Men 2 movie hits theatres. It could have the following episodes:

14 The Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 1
15 Battle of the Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 2
16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4
18 Mutants Revenge: Neogenic Nightmare Part 5

[Simpler Simon]

Personally, I'd love to have The Six Forgotten Warriors story arc on one disc, it'd make the perfect mini-movie. There are also a lot of other good episodes, but sadly it seems they're not going for season sets at all, which really screws up continuity (between the first release, the return of the green goblin DVD and daredevil DVD, did we skip Venom and Carnage?)

[Russkafin]

Ah, it really is stupid of them to not do season sets... even if they are not by official "season" breakdowns, the majority of the series is broken down into story-arcs... how easy would it be for them to just break the series down into the different arcs and release them in order that way!

But, I can see why they are doing it the way they are... release a Spider-Man and Green Goblin DVD when the movie comes out, since it has him fighting the Green Goblin in the movie.... release a follow up when the movie comes out on video.... release the Spider-Man and Daredevil episodes when the Daredevil movie comes out.... they are seing the animated series as a mere tie-in, and not viewing it as something that stands alone very well all by itself!

[Brainiac]

I'd like to see ALL of them released on DVD...but out of the ones listed, I'd really like to see "The Alien Costume" arc as well as "The Insidious Six" and pretty much all of Season 1.

[Spider-Man]

I want to see all of the episodes released, but I have a feeling we won't. We might see some of the VHS released put to DVD. Like how Polygram released Six Forgotten Warriors as one movie - which was the best way to watch it. If Disney keeps this pace up, we'll see two or three DVD releases a year.

[Joe Wagner]

I too would like to see all of the episodes released but the ones that I would really like to see include the Black Costume Saga, the Venom Returns arc and the Spider-Wars arc (including everyone's favorite clone, the Scarlet Spider).

I would also love to see them release a special two disc set including all of the Spider-Man Unlimited episodes in one, quick release. I think that it would prove succesful and could lead to two disc sets for the Silver Surfer and even the Avengers (a show I somewhat enjoyed, altho it could have been much better).

-Joe!

[Joe Wagner]

This is just speculation but upon thinking about the last few Marvel movies we've had a barrage of animated DVD releases, including:

(Movie - Animated Release)

X-Men - Sanctuary 1 & 2, Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape and Proteus 1 & 2; Reunion Parts 1 & 2 and Out of the Past 1 & 2 and No Mutant Is an Island; and The Phoenix Saga

Spider-Man - Ultimate Villain Showdown and Return of the Green Goblin

Daredevil - Slated Spider-Man vs DD release

Currently there also appears to be plans for more animated X-men releases to coincide with X-Men 2. Considering that Disney holds the rights to the Hulk animated series and the Hulk never made any guest appearances on Spider-Man TAS, do you think Disney will release the Hulk on DVD? If so, which episodes would you like to see released?

-Joe!

[joshualane]

They probably will. And then they'll do another one when the Hulk DVD comes out. After that, they'll move on to the Fantastic Four when that movie comes out and so on and so on.

[James Harvey]

I'd like to see a Hulk DVD, since there are no 'Spider-Man' tie in episodes. A DVD with first 4 - 6 episodes would be a great treat. Since the character has had both a classic 1960's series and a 1990's series, we can expect a nice disc like the current animated Spidey DVDs.

I bet we'll get a SPIDER-MAN VS X-MEN DVD for the X-Men 2 movie release...I betcha! And if Universal gets off their arse (since they supposedly own the rights to X:TAS right now), we can expect some DVDs from them as well.

[James Harvey]

Well, we got four more episodes confirmed to the list as well as the "bonus" episode on the current DVD, Red Bird! Get that list updated! :)

[Joe Wagner]

Here's a list of the episodes from the Incredible Hulk animated series:

Season 1
The Return Of The Beast, Part 1
The Return Of The Beast, Part 2
Raw Power
Helping Hand, Iron Fist
Innocent Blood
Man To Man, Beast To Beast
Doomed
Fantastic Fortitude
Mortal Bounds
And The Wind Cries... Wendigo!
Darkness And Light, Part 1
Darkness And Light, Part 2
Darkness And Light, Part 3

Season 2 (1997-1998)
(8 Episodes In Season 2)
A Hulk Of A Different Color
Down Memory Lane
Mind Over Anti-Matter
They Call Me Mr. Fixit
Fashion Warriors
Hollywood Rocks
The Lost Village
Mission: Incredible

Personally I would love to see the first five episodes as they include the Hulk's origin as well as guest appearances by Iron Man and Ghost Rider. Like Jim mentioned I would also love to see them add some episodes from the 1960's animated series to any DVD release they have for the Hulk.

-Joe!

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Joe Wagner
Like Jim mentioned I would also love to see them add some episodes from the 1960's animated series to any DVD release they have for the Hulk.

-Joe!

The 60s Hulk??? From what I've seen the 60s show had awful animation. I would much rather see episodes from the 80s show, which was pretty well done overall (notwithstanding the hammy narration from Stan Lee).

[Stu]

The 60s Hulk??? From what I've seen the 60s show had awful animation. I would much rather see episodes from the 80s show, which was pretty well done overall (notwithstanding the hammy narration from Stan Lee).

80's Hulk rules. I personnaly find the 60's series unwatchable. Classy music and great VA made this an 80's series to remember. the Iron Man Hulk episode was cool too. The Hulk also appreaed in Spider-man and His Amazings Friends "Spidey goes to Hollywood" episode. It has Mysterio whos "fishbowl" was black. Ughghgh

[Stu]

6 million edits later we have a winner. I'm still sickened by the kack of Venom Returns and Carnage. I smell money in a team up DVD. X-men, Dr strange and Iron man all have movies in various stages of production. Cap Americas 6 part forgotten warriors will get DVD treatment soon I think

[James Harvey]

Granted the 60's Hulk series isn't all that good, but it seems to be what Disney would do if they do an animated Hulk disc. Some episodes from the recent series, plus some "classic" episodes from the older series.

[Christopher N. Denner]

I wouldn't mind seeing Hulk on DVD. They could even throw in the IronMan crossover as a companion piece to the Hulk one as a special feature.

[Stu]

I hope they keep the She-Hulk crap away from the disc. Why is that all the characters this woman voices end up being immesnsly annoying. (She did the hated Max on Batman Beyond and You can't even say her name on the B, S + BB board without pissing someone off).
The only She Hulk episode they should do is "Doom" because it features Dr. Doom. 'Nuff said

[Bruce Wayne]

All of them. :D

[Joe Wagner]

Don't ask me why but I have a gut feeling that we could get a DVD featuring the Black Costume Saga and the two part Venom Returns/Carnage episodes.

As for Blade - I'm still expecting that next Halloween Buena Vista will release a couple of episodes dealing with Morbius and Blade with these episodes:

19 Morbius: Neogenic Nightmare Part 6
20 Enter The Punisher: Neogenic Nightmare Part 7
21 Duel of the Hunters: Neogenic Nightmare Part 8
22 Blade the Vampire Hunter: Neogenic Nightmare Part 9
23 The Immortal Vampire: Neogenic Nightmare Part 10

-Joe!

[James Harvey]

I think the Blade DVD would be great, and it would be wise to market them over Halloween. Disney would get in alot of trouble marketing Blade cartoon episodes to coincide with the Blade 2 DVD ('R' movie can lead to many parental complaints).

I just bet we'l lsee at least two more Spidey tie-in DVDs this year - at least. I just have a gut feeling we will...

[James]

I'd be just after the 80's Hulk - the Banner with the self repairing trousers. I loved that version and would happy spend out on a release of those episodes. The same goes for Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends which shared a timeslot for a period.

[Spike Mcdougal]

Venom and Carnage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[James Harvey]

Unless Venom & Carnage are in the movie, then I doubt we'll get a tie in disc featuring them. But www.darkhorizons.com recently reported a rumor stating that if Venom and Carnage are used in Spider-Man 3, then they'll be equal partners.

[Simpler Simon]

Originally posted by Joe Wagner
Don't ask me why but I have a gut feeling that we could get a DVD featuring the Black Costume Saga and the two part Venom Returns/Carnage episodes.

I'd love a DVD like that, except there's one small problem: continuity. The plot of the carnage two-parter revolves around that flaming trans-dimensional guy Dormaneu (sp??) and Baron Mordor (sp???). To understand where they come from they'd have to include the Dr. Strange episode too. And to understand why Mary Jane joined their cult in the first place, we have to get the episodes involving the tablet of time and the whole neogenic nightmare. What a mess!

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by CaptainJustice
I'd love a DVD like that, except there's one small problem: continuity. The plot of the carnage two-parter revolves around that flaming trans-dimensional guy Dormaneu (sp??) and Baron Mordor (sp???). To understand where they come from they'd have to include the Dr. Strange episode too. And to understand why Mary Jane joined their cult in the first place, we have to get the episodes involving the tablet of time and the whole neogenic nightmare. What a mess!

True, altho a lot of the Sins of the Fathers arc will already have been released by that time - minus the Dr. Strange episode that is. Unfortunately the only way for them to remain in continuity with the releases now would be to issue a DVD with only two episodes. Since I see that as highly unlikely I would hope that they would put the Black Costume Saga as the main feature (to give Venom's background) and follow it up with the Venom and Carnage two-parter, which basically picks up where Venom left off. The Dr. Strange appearance could easily be explained with the background information that the episode provides. Funny how this could have been avoided if they would have just given us season sets to begin with :rolleyes:

-Joe!

[Spider-Man]

I don't think it matters. Mary Jane mentions the whole cult thing in the 'Goblin War' episode that's on the current animated DVD. I don't think there would be any problem. Us hardcore Spidey fans know that there are about a dozen storylines running through these episodes so there's nothing to wory about. We know what's going on! :)

[Stu]

I don't think it matters. Mary Jane mentions the whole cult thing in the 'Goblin War' episode that's on the current animated DVD. I don't think there would be any problem. Us hardcore Spidey fans know that there are about a dozen storylines running through these episodes so there's nothing to wory about. We know what's going on!

Thats the problem. Us hardcore Spidey fans are not the ones the discs are aimed at. If they where I would currently be the proud owner of Spider-man TAS season 1 on DVD. But this is Disney and everything must be aimed at kids. Its annoying but thats the way it is. Being that Doc Ock is most likely going to be in The Amazing Spider-man movie I think we are soon to be due some Doc Ock DVDs. After Spider-man VS X-men, with these episodes

14 The Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 1
15 Battle of the Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 2
16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4

as it would be stupid to leave the disc 1/2 between a mini arc. Unless they did it as a team up DVD. That would be wiser as you'd get the X-men to cash in, Blade to cash in on, and The punisher if they used these episodes.

16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4
18 Morbious : Neogenic Nightmare part 5
19 Enter The Punisher: Neogenic Nightmare Part 6
20 Duel of the Hunters Neogenic Nightmare Part 7

But then Blade the vampire hunter and The immortal Vampire are left out.... and oh no I've gone crosseyed

[Spider-Man]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
14 The Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 1
15 Battle of the Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 2
16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4

I bet Doc Ock's origin episode would be the extra episode featured on the disc, as well as a Doc Ock episode from the 1960's episode. I am glad that Disney is keeping the episodes in order. Always a good thing.

[Stu]

I wouldn't really want Dr. Octopus: Armed and Dangerous as a bonus. It should go on any of the DVDs featuring episodes from season 1.

1 Night of the Lizard
2 The Sting of the Scorpion
3 The Spider Slayer
4 The Return of the Spider-Slayers
5 The Menace of Mysterio
6 Doctor Octopus Armed and Dangerous
7 The Alien Costume, Part One
8 The Alien Costume, Part Two
9 The Alien Costume, Part Three
10 Kraven The Hunter
11 The Hobgoblin, Part One
12 The Hobgoblin, Part Two
13 Day of the Chameleon


These episodes could easliy be spread out over 3 discs or even be releaed in a (GASP) season set. ;)

[Spider-Man]

I really, really doubt we're going to get a Season One disc. I just know we won't, especially since these current compilation discs are pulling in some nice cash for Disney. I'd love to see them, but I doubt we'll get them.

[Stu]

The 3 different discs would be nice then since Spider-man season 1 had AWESOME animation and AWSOME colours

[SuperChris]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Being that Doc Ock is most likely going to be in The Amazing Spider-man movie I think we are soon to be due some Doc Ock DVDs. After Spider-man VS X-men, with these episodes

14 The Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 1
15 Battle of the Insidious Six: Neogenic Nightmare Part 2
16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4

as it would be stupid to leave the disc 1/2 between a mini arc. Unless they did it as a team up DVD. That would be wiser as you'd get the X-men to cash in, Blade to cash in on, and The punisher if they used these episodes.

16 Hydro-Man: Neogenic Nightmare Part 3
17 The Mutant Agenda: Neogenic Nightmare Part 4
18 Morbious : Neogenic Nightmare part 5
19 Enter The Punisher: Neogenic Nightmare Part 6
20 Duel of the Hunters Neogenic Nightmare Part 7

But then Blade the vampire hunter and The immortal Vampire are left out.... and oh no I've gone crosseyed

IIRC, Episode 18 (and part 5 of "Neogenic Nightmare") WASN'T "Morbius" -- it was "Mutants Revenge" (the second half of the team-up with the X-Men). It would make more sense for them to release episodes 14-18 (similar to your first option, just with episode 18 added). It would mean doing 5 episodes. While the previous releases all had 4 episodes as the main feature, there would still be plenty of room on the disc for a 5-ep feature (as evidenced by the inclusion of TWO bonus eps on the Return of Gobby DVD).

That would leave all the Morbius, Punisher, Blade stuff for another DVD. That would probably make for a more cohesive collection than trying to package it with the X-Men two-parter.

It's also worth noting that if this X-Men tie-in DVD with eps 14-18 goes through, it would be the PERFECT follow-up to a season one set (since season one is eps 1-13). Far be it from me to be optimistic, but I actually think we'll see a season one set. Maybe it won't actually be called "Spider-Man: The Whole First Season" or any variation, but we'll get it. Probably in one package too. I just don't think we'll ever see a season two (or three, or four) set. When you think about it -- what percentage of shows that have gotten a Season 1 set have actually later gotten a season 2 set?

-Chris

[Stu]

If we do get a season set, I'd say season 1 is the only one we'd get. This could be helped to be made by this new animated series on MTV (whenever it comes on).

[Antiyonder]

1. The Six Forgotten Warriors Chapters 1-5
Bonus Episodes: 1980's Episode
The Capture Of Captain America
Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends Episode:
Pawns Of The Kingpin

2. Hydroman/Sandman Episodes:
Hydroman/The Return Of Hydroman Part 1-2
Bonus Episodes: 1980's Episode
The Sandman Is Coming
Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends Episode:
Spider-Man Unmasked

3. Secret Wars:
Secret Wars Chapter 1, Arrival
Secret Wars Chapter 2, The Gauntlet Of The
Red Skull

Secret Wars Chapter 3, Doom
Spider-Wars Chapter 1, I Really, Really
Hate Clones

Spider-Wars Chapter 2, Farewell Spider-Man
Bonus Episode: Spider-Man And His Amazing
Friends Episode: Seven Little Superheroes

[Stu]

1. The Six Forgotten Warriors Chapters 1-5
Bonus Episodes: 1980's Episode
The Capture Of Captain America
Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends Episode:
Pawns Of The Kingpin

2. Hydroman/Sandman Episodes:
Hydroman/The Return Of Hydroman Part 1-2
Bonus Episodes: 1980's Episode
The Sandman Is Coming
Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends Episode:
Spider-Man Unmasked

3. Secret Wars:
Secret Wars Chapter 1, Arrival
Secret Wars Chapter 2, The Gauntlet Of The
Red Skull

Secret Wars Chapter 3, Doom
Spider-Wars Chapter 1, I Really, Really
Hate Clones

Spider-Wars Chapter 2, Farewell Spider-Man
Bonus Episode: Spider-Man And His Amazing
Friends Episode: Seven Little Superheroes

I can see some of these working. The Secret Wars DVD could be a "Spider-man and Heros" DVD. I personnaly like the inclusion of the 60's episodes on DVD, but since they are RUMOURED to be released (all 52 of 'em!) when they run out Spider-man and His Amazing Friends seems like the next logical step. I haven't seem most of these but my brother tells me that "Spidey unmasked" is the best episode. I'd buy these. Hopefully is someone gets up off thier ass at Marvel Enterprises and makes a Captain America movie (none of that 80's crap) then the Six Forgotten Warriors will be released.

[Mike Spartz]

Any episode with the balck cat in it is cool! :) She was hot! :D

[Antiyonder]

Spider-Man VS The X-Men: Friends and Foes (They'll have a title like this I sure.):


Neogenic Nightmare Chapter 1:
The Insideous Six
Neogenic Nightmare Chapter 2:
Battle Of The Insideous Six
Neogenic Nightmare Chapter 3:
Hydro Man
Neogenic Nightmare Chapter 4:
Mutant Agenda
Neogenic Nightmare Chapter 5:
Mutant's Revenge

Bonus Episode- Spider-Man And
His Amazing Friends: The X-Men
Adventure


X-Men (I can't think of any other titles)

Night Of The Sentinels Part 1-2
Enter Magneto
Deadly Reunion

Bonus Episode 1- X-Men:
Pryde Of The X-Men
Bonus Episode 2- Namor The Submariner:
Atlantis Under Attack/Dr Doomsday (1st Cartoon appearance of The X-Men)

[joshualane]

Given the current trend with Buena Vista, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Spider-Man: X-Men/Mutant themed disc.

As for specific X-Men animated DVD's, I think that's up to Universal, but hopefully they'll release some more...and in order would be great.

[Stu]

I'm guessing so. I was hoping we would get Neogenic Nightmare part 1+2 but I doubt it. I hope someone (whoever owns the rights) a decent X-men DVD. I never bought them other ones. I want Night of The Sentinals on DVD!

[Spider-Man]

I'd like to see those episodes, but even putting the first five episodes of Neogenic Nightmare would be a problem. The ending of part five is really open ended, obviously leading into another story. But I would love to see these episodes on there. I'm a bit of an X-Fan, too, and enjoyed both of their cartoons so far.

[Divv]

Just read on dvdtoons.com that disney are planning on releasing animated X-Men and Hulk discs to coincide with the release of the new movies this year. Looks like we might be getting the Hulk from the start, but it doesn't look too good that way on the X-Men front.

Here's the link:
http://www.dvdtoons.com/news/339

[Stu]

Good news. I'll be picking these up when they come out. Do we have a release date yet?
Dissapointing to here that X-men is not being restarted after the mockery Universal made of things. I want Night of The Sentinals on DVD.

Did Wolverine have an origin episode in season 1? Makes sense to me to release the last 5 episodes of Season 1 if they are making the bonus episode the last episode of season 1. Can someone *cough* Jim *cough* put up an episode guide of whats (likely) to be on the DVD? I am terrible for remembering episode names of X-men.

[Joe Wagner]

Personally - I'm glad to hear that Hulk and X-Men are getting new DVD releases. Hulk was seriously underrated and needs a DVD release. X-Men will sit nicely with the other three DVD's that I already have. Red Bird - why didn't you like the Universal releases? While the covers were way off they did tend to put the episodes in order (like the Phoenix saga being on one disk, etc) for the most part with an episode or two being switched around.

EDIT: I added in the Universal DVD episodes - all but one episode (No Mutant Is An Island) is in the correct order. Here are the episodes:

X-Men: The Animated Series

Season 1 (1992-1993)
Night Of The Sentinels, Part 1
Night Of The Sentinels, Part 2
Enter Magneto
Deadly Reunions
Captive Hearts
Cold Vengeance
Slave Island
The Unstoppable Juggernaut
The Cure
Come The Apocalypse
Days Of Future Past, Part 1
Days Of Future Past, Part 2
The Final Decision

Season 2 (1993-1994)
'Til Death Do Us Part, Part 1
'Til Death Do Us Part, Part 2
Whatever It Takes
Red Dawn
Repo Man
X-Ternally Yours
Time Fugitives, Part 1
Time Fugitives, Part 2
A Rogue's Tale
Beauty And The Beast
Mojovision
<i>Reunion, Part 1 (Universal X-men Vol 2 release)</i>
<i>Reunion, Part 2 (Universal X-men Vol 2 release)</i>

Season 3 (1994-1995)
(19 Episodes In Season 3)
<i>Out Of The Past, Part 1 (Universal X-men Vol 2 release)</i>
<i>Out Of The Past, Part 2 (Universal X-men Vol 2 release)</i>
<i>The Phoenix Saga: Sacrifice, Part 1 (Phoenix Saga DVD)
</i><i>The Phoenix Saga: Dark Shroud, Part 2 (Phoenix Saga DVD)
</i><i>The Phoenix Saga: Cry Of The Banshee, Part 3 (Phoenix Saga DVD)
</i><i>The Phoenix Saga: Starjammers, Part 4 (Phoenix Saga DVD)
</i><i>The Phoenix Saga: Child Of Light, Part 5 (Phoenix Saga DVD)</i> Obsession
Cold Comfort
Savage Land, Savage Heart, Part 1
Savage Land, Savage Heart, Part 2
The Dark Phoenix: Dazzled, Part 1
The Dark Phoenix: Inner Circle, Part 2
The Dark Phoenix: Dark Phoenix, Part 3
The Dark Phoenix: The Fate Of Phoenix, Part 4
Orphan's End
Juggernaut Returns
Nightcrawler
<i>Weapon X, Lies, & Videotape (Universal X-men Vol 3 release)</i>

Season 4 (1995-1996)
(17 Episodes in Season 4)
<i>Proteus, Part 1 (Universal X-men Vol 3 release)
</i><i>Proteus, Part 2 (Universal X-men Vol 3 release)
</i><i>Sanctuary, Part 1 (Universal X-men Vol 3 release)
</i><i>Sanctuary, Part 2 (Universal X-men Vol 3 release)</i>
Beyond Good And Evil, Part 1: The End Of Time
Beyond Good And Evil, Part 2: Promise Of Apocalypse
Beyond Good And Evil, Part 3: The Lazarus Chamber
Beyond Good And Evil, Part 4: End And Beginning
One Man's Worth, Part 1
One Man's Worth, Part 2
Courage
Have Yourself A Morlock Little Christmas
The Lotus And The Steel
Love In Vain
Secrets No Longer Buried
Xavier Remembers
Family Ties

Season 5 (1996-1997)
(14 Episodes In Season 5)
The Phalanx Covenant, Part 1
The Phalanx Covenant, Part 2
A Deal With The Devil
<i>No Mutant Is An Island (Universal X-men Vol 2 release)</i>
Longshot
Bloodlines
Storm Front, Part 1
Storm Front, Part 2
Jubilee's Fairy Tale Theatre
Fifth Horseman
Old Soldiers
Descent
Hidden Agenda
Graduation Day

The Incredible Hulk: The Animated Series

Season 1 (1996-1997)
The Return Of The Beast, Part 1
The Return Of The Beast, Part 2
Raw Power
Helping Hand, Iron Fist
Innocent Blood
Man To Man, Beast To Beast
Doomed
Fantastic Fortitude
Mortal Bounds
And The Wind Cries... Wendigo!
Darkness And Light, Part 1
Darkness And Light, Part 2
Darkness And Light, Part 3

Season 2 (1997-1998)
A Hulk Of A Different Color
Down Memory Lane
Mind Over Anti-Matter
They Call Me Mr. Fixit
Fashion Warriors
Hollywood Rocks
The Lost Village
Mission: Incredible

-Joe!

Edited by Jim!

[Viper]

I'll certainly be looking forward to the Mid-90's Hulk eps on DVD! :D I remember seeing them on UPN back when it started and I've enjoyed it since! Can't wait 'til it comes out in June!

[Stu]

Red Bird - why didn't you like the Universal releases? While the covers were way off they did tend to put the episodes in order (like the Phoenix saga being on one disk, etc) for the most part with an episode or two being switched around

I don't like it when continuanity based shows are not put on DVD/VHS in order from the first episode. While not as bad as I thought (I got the impression they where just random episodes) it just looks like they where lazy efforts. They never got released over here (r2) and whereever I saw them on T'internet they where always ridicoulously expensive. Still Night Of the Sentinals and Enter Magneto where arguably the highlights of the series and I think it's a shame they weren't put on DVD first. Just out of curiosity because I really can't remember what happens in Days Of Future Past, Part 1 and Days Of Future Past, Part 2? I hope Disney treat X-men as well as they have Spider-man. A good example of how to treat an animated series on DVD. Damn WB.

[Joe Wagner]

Days of Future Past revolved around Bishop and his search for the "traitor" that would change the world and lead to the bleak future that he came from. And I do agree with you Red Bird - I hope that Buena Vista gives X-Men and Hulk the excellent treatment they've given Spidey. Now if we could only get a Silver Surfer release........

-Joe!

[czyznyck99]

The Universial VHS episodes of X-men are much better. They primarily stick to multipart arcs, so they can be put in order.

As far as Disney is concerned, full season sets are what they need to do. Enough of only releasing five episodes that I could have taped from ABC Family. They know the sets will sell a lot better, so just sell them.

Later.

[Stu]

If Disney do these DVDs anything like Spider-man then I'm guessing that we'll get these episodes

The Cure
Come The Apocalypse
Days Of Future Past, Part 1
Days Of Future Past, Part 2
The Final Decision

But what does that have to do with the Origin of Wolverine? Unless its

The Final Decision

Season 2 (1993-1994)
'Til Death Do Us Part, Part 1
'Til Death Do Us Part, Part 2
Whatever It Takes
Red Dawn

As this is X-men I really can't remember what happened in "Whatever it takes" but I remember Morph changing into a priest and the whole fake Cyclops and Jean Grey fake marriage thing and Red Dawn is Omega which kinda fits in with the "Legend of Wolverine". Hopefully someone will annouce all the episodes soon. You could go mad guessing whats on these DVDs.

[Silent Bob]

I'm curious to see what's on these discs as well. I really want to see what is on the X-Men one. I'm curious to see what episodes are on there. Maybe Disney will put on the last four episodes, which include the Wolverine/Captain America episode, as well as "Graduation Day" - my favorite episode. I am glad to see "The Final Decision" on there - one of the few X-Men epsidoes, maybe the only, to sneek blood by the censors.

[Antiyonder]

Originally posted by czyznyck99
The Universial VHS episodes of X-men are much better. They primarily stick to multipart arcs, so they can be put in order.

As far as Disney is concerned, full season sets are what they need to do. Enough of only releasing five episodes that I could have taped from ABC Family. They know the sets will sell a lot better, so just sell them.

Later.
Like WB they view any animation as kids stuff, they're more interested in putting things out for kids rather than fans.

[Cartman]

Does Disney even own the rights to those cartoons?

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Cartman
Does Disney even own the rights to those cartoons?

It looks like they were able to acquire the rights for the X-Men from Universal following their purchase of Saban. Right now they currently own the rights for Spider-Man, Spider-Man Unlimited, Hulk, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Avengers and the Silver Surfer. If Disney was ever interested in leaping into the box set market I think Spider-Man Unlimited and the Silver Surfer would be excellent places to start.

-Joe!

[Stu]

I have to disagree there Joe. Spider-man Unlimited never got finished, unless they had an interview with one of the writers explaining. I really can't remember much about Silver Surfer but I never really liked it. Spider-man The Animated Series season 1 should be made. I really can't see season 2 working without a box set. Lets hope they keep the season sets for the cartoons that where decent. Still its nice to see they aren't only releasing Spider-man. The next SM DVD has a FF episode and both X-men and Hulk are recieving DVD releases this year with one probably coming out with the release of the theatrical film DVD like ROTGG. I hope more episods get released and think it will continue to happen as long as the comic book movies keep coming.

[joshualane]

More specs on the DVD's (press releases posted on my site):


In X-MEN: THE LEGEND OF WOLVERINE when a familiar face from Wolverine’s former life resurfaces, he must wage a war he never intended. Ultimately, the X-Men must join forces with Magneto in a fight to save all mutants from annihilation. Discover the truth of Wolverine’s secret past, and watch his decisive battle as he is forced to make a choice that will forever affect the fate of the X-Men.

The extra-special DVD features for X-MEN: THE LEGEND OF WOLVERINE include:
- Stan Lee’s Soapbox
- Bonus Episode: "The Final Decision" - Featuring Magneto
- Who Is Chris Claremont? - An exclusive interview with the acclaimed X-Men comic book writer and creator
- The Power Behind X - audio commentaries
- French Language Track



In THE INCREDIBLE HULK discover the origin of the Hulk in this high impact, animated adventure. In a desperate race against time, Hulk’s alter-ego, Bruce Banner, is trying to reverse his curse and return back to his normal self, but his arch-enemies have him on the run. Witness the fantastic transformation of the most powerful being that ever existed as The Incredible Hulk wages an all-out battle against his attackers and smashes his way to fight another day.

The extra-special DVD features for THE INCREDIBLE HULK include:
- Stan Lee’s Soapbox
- "Inside the Hulk" (Behind the scenes viewing mode with audio commentaries)
- Who Is Peter David? (award-winning Hulk comic book writer)
- Bonus Episode 1966 Series Episode "Origin of the Hulk"/"Enter the Gorgon"/"To Be a Man"
- Spanish Language Track

[joshualane]

Given the description for the X-Men DVD, I think we're at least getting:

301 Out of the Past (part 1)
302 Out of the Past (part 2)

"Out of the Past" is when Wolverine meets Yuriko (Lady Deathstrike) and since she's going to be in the new X-Men film, it makes sense that we would get these two eps.

The other episodes are probably random and Wolverine "history" eps so I'm guessing either of these three:

321 Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape (Weapon X story obviously)
503 Old Soldiers (Captain America ep)
402 A Deal with the Devil (Omega Red ep)
205 Repo Man (Alpha Flight ep)

"Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape" is when Wolverine finds out more information about the Weapon X program he was part of and if I remember correctly, that is ALSO part of the new X-Men film. I swear to god though, if we get "Out of the Past (1-2)" and "Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape", that would be a complete slap in the face to X-Men fans because all three of those eps are ALREADY available on DVD. Granted, two separate DVD's, but still.

[Silent Bob]

I'll be extremely dissapointed if "Out of the Past" or "Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape" is one these discs - I already got those episodes on DVD. I still think that Disney will do what they did to the Spider-Man DVDs, which I'm also picking up, and will stick to episodes in order, ya know? I'll be very dissapointed. But they can also do some episodes out of order. I think it'd be great to see episodes like 'Enter:Magneto,' 'Cold Vengeance,' 'Old Soldiers,' and especially 'Repo Man'. I'm still convinced Disney will stick to it's episode order much like Spider-Man.

[Spider-Man]

Will we be getting more Spider-Man DVDs with these X-Men and Hulk DVDs?

[Stu]

Will we be getting more Spider-Man DVDs with these X-Men and Hulk DVDs?

Possibly. The long rumoured Spider-man vs X-men (which I predict will be called Spider-man Vs Wolverine) is a big possibility as the X-men DVD are quite untested when it comes to sales but both Spidey DVDs have sold well, meaning more will get made eventually. Basically Disney knows if they do make Spider-man vs The X-men then it will sell.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
I have to disagree there Joe. Spider-man Unlimited never got finished, unless they had an interview with one of the writers explaining. I really can't remember much about Silver Surfer but I never really liked it. Spider-man The Animated Series season 1 should be made. I really can't see season 2 working without a box set. Lets hope they keep the season sets for the cartoons that where decent. Still its nice to see they aren't only releasing Spider-man. The next SM DVD has a FF episode and both X-men and Hulk are recieving DVD releases this year with one probably coming out with the release of the theatrical film DVD like ROTGG. I hope more episods get released and think it will continue to happen as long as the comic book movies keep coming.

Both Spider-Man Unlimited and Silver Surfer ended on cliff hangers that were never completed - however both had information available regarding the planned premeires for their next season with Silver Surfer already to go with a second season before the Marvel Animation disaster. While they were never completed I think it would be a shame to not release these on DVD. Silver Surfer was an amazing series that stayed true to the designs of Jack Kirby while giving the viewer a chance to get into the Surfer's head. Spider-Man Unlimited was a guilty pleasure of mine and while disliked by many I considered it to be different and very fun to watch. Not only that but the animation quality in these was very good. If the policy is followed to not release these shows because of the open ended endings it also leaves out the possibility of Spider-Man ever being completed because of the search for MJ never ending. Now if Disney were really looking to make the fans happy they could take the scripts for both premiere's and create two entirely new episodes. Not only that but a movie/comic explaining the time gap between Spider-Man and Spider-Man Unlimited would help by explaining why Spider-Man Unlimited is considered in continuity (as announced by Fox following the completion of Spider-Man TAS).

-Joe!

[Spider-Man]

The episodes are usually announced eventually, so I'm gonna wait until then. I plan to pick up these X-Men and Hulk DVDs, too. I really hope Disney keeps releasing Spider-Man DVDs. I'd like for them to pick up the pace, though. There's 65 episodes to get on DVD and I'd love to see them all.

[Silent Bob]

I would like to see the Spider-Man/X-Men crossover episodes that aired in Spider-Man's second season. It was a pretty good episode and I was really glad to see all of the voice cast return to do voices. It makes sense for Disney to put these on DVD when X-Men 2 comes out. I'm also hoping that Disney won't put all those episodes that Universal put out. They probably will eventually, though...

[Stu]

I hope Disney at least keep the episodes together like they did with the Spidey DVDs. X-men is not a series to watch when the episodes don't follow each other. Simple as that.

[James Harvey]

Hey folks,

I did some digging and found out the episodes featured on the <i>X-Men: The Legend of Wolverine</i> DVD. Check the news here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65463).

[Stu]

Well I'm glad I decided not to order them Universal discs last week. Still anyone who owns them with be througly pissed. These are all decent episodes as far as I'm concercned but still, I would've prefered episode order.

[joshualane]

I SOOO wanted to be wrong about this DVD, but there it is...a compilation disc. So, considering I already have the Universal disc, I get to pay $20 for 3 episodes that are completely out of order.

113 The Final Decision
320 Nightcrawler
413 The Lotus and the Steel

I don't know if I will be picking this up...maybe if it's marked down to $12 or $13.

[Stu]

Just curious Jim, where do you do your digging????

Glad that Nightcrawler in on the disc. I enjoyed that episiode. If they do a second disc I want it to be Magneto as he was the most interesting villian.

[Samhaine]

While I can understand the episode picks, based on the new movie, I still think it's horrible for them to be putting out a compilation disc, especially after the uproar with Spider-Man last year. Hopefully, there will be a similar uproar and we can get episode order.

On the bright side, now that I know all the Universal disc are (mostly) in order, there's a good chance I'll pick a couple up. Or, at the very least, the Pheonix Saga.

[Stu]

April has become an expensice month. With this, the Batman lot, and my (hopefully) buying a widescreen TV and possibly the R2 Smallville set I'd better start saving. Hey Jim, is the April 29th release for both X-men and Hulk?

[joshualane]

Only the X-Men DVD comes out on April 29th. The Hulk disc comes out June 17th.

[James Harvey]

The The Incredible Hulk DVD comes out right before the movie in June. The movie opens June 20th, the DVD comes out on June 17th. I'll give this to Disney - they know when to time their DVD releases.

[Stu]

Well April just became less expensive. :) I'm not really bothered when there released as I have them all on tape but I am missing the Iron Man episode of Hulk so it'll be nice to have that. Its also good to know not a hint of She Hulk will appear on this DVD. :D

[Joe Wagner]

I am extremely disappointed with the release list for this DVD. Not only are fans already getting repeats of some episodes but the other three are completely out of order - I really wished they would have started with Night of the Sentinels and gone from there. These is extremely disappointing.......

-Joe!

[Caretaker]

If I recall correctly, a few of the X-Men episodes aired out of order due to different issues. Nightcrawler was held back due to it's focus on religion. No Mutant is an Island was delayed for unknown reasons, but should have been aired back in season three where it occurs chronologically.

Does anyone know the production order of the X-Men episodes?

[James Harvey]

b[]X-Men[/b] did air out of order a few times. Some episodes premiered in primetime, and proemiered out of order. Some were aired in order to tie into a morning theme. Overall, most of the episodes did air in their proper order, thankfully. But yes, like any series, some aired out of order.

[Silent Bob]

I'm curious on how Disney will present the "Out of the Past" two parter. Will they make it seperate parts, or just let it flow together?

[Stu]

I'm guessing that they're just going to make it flow and put up the episode title like they do with the Spider-man DVDs.

Does it make little sense to anyone else having the bonus Sentinal epispode on this disc? None of the other episodes feature The Sentinals or Magneto and this episode has nothing to do with Wolverine. Is this just stupid or am I missing something? :confused:

[Spider-Man]

I was wondering that, too, becuase 'Out of the Past Part 2' ends with a big, flaming sign that says 'Coming Soon: The Phoenix Saga'. That's going to just look odd when that fads out, and another episode starts.

[Stu]

They'll probably edit that. Unless they do something stupid like release the Pheonix Saga despite it having been released by Universal.

[James Harvey]

The always excellent www.davisdvd.com has the cover art for the disc up:

http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers/wolverine.jpg

[Stu]

At least these covers make sense with the disc theme.

I like it. Its better than the Spider-man efforts. Not sure about the colouring though.

[Spider-Man]

The cover art is pretty nice, actually. It's not all that bad at all. An improvement over the somewhat bland Spidey covers.

[Silent Bob]

Better than what I was expecting. At least they are not laughably bad like the ones for the Universal DVDs. At least this cover art has something to do with the stories found within. The DVD for the Phoenix Saga featured Magneto fighting a Sentinel for cryin' out loud! Did Universal even try?

[Stu]

DVDTOONS.COM have the new Hulk DVD cover online. Pretty shoddy if you ask me.

http://www.dvdtoons.com/news/339

[The Drizzle]

http://www.dvdtoons.com/dtimage.php?image=incredible_hulk.jpg

Yucky. :deedee: