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Russkafin
10-16-2004, 02:19 AM
This is great! (Now if Comedy Central would put Dr. Katz: Professional Therapist on DVD, I'd have nothing left to wish for!)

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2304

PaQ
10-16-2004, 02:44 AM
Wow, very cool news. I was just saying a few days ago that Lois & Clark should get released on DVD, and now it's gonna happen. Hopefully there's some good extras/commentaries, that would be awesome. This is definitely something to look forward to.

The Penguin
10-16-2004, 08:48 AM
Sweet! At long last! A part of me is really excited and another part of me is thinking about how this is going to cost money. I don't like spending money.

Michael24
10-16-2004, 02:14 PM
This should make Dean Cain happy. He's been wanting LOIS & CLARK on DVD for some time now. I'll definitely buy the first two seasons, but I remember most of the third season and all of the fourth season being really crappy. But the first two were awesome.

Now if somebody would just release the original George Reeves Superman series on DVD.

DisneyBoy
10-16-2004, 02:32 PM
YAHOOO!!!

Finally!

*goes to read link*

JonnyQuest
10-17-2004, 08:57 AM
YES !!!!!!! :) :D ;) :p :rolleyes: :cool: :sweat: :zim:

ManicWebb
10-17-2004, 05:52 PM
It's about [blank]ing time. Lois & Clark was the single greatest live-action Superman TV series ever created. Better than Smallville. Better than Superboy. Sorry George, but it was better than the classic Superman series. I never missed an episode, and I was enraged when they cancelled the series on a semi-cliffhanger.

Russkafin
10-18-2004, 12:47 AM
Sweet! At long last! A part of me is really excited and another part of me is thinking about how this is going to cost money. I don't like spending money.
LOL! Penguin, that's so funny that you said that, because I'm the exact same way. Whenever I hear news like that, part of me gets excited, and the other part of me sort of sighs and says, "Well, that'll probably be four sets at at least $40 each... so there goes another $160, minimum..." And then I start figuring out how many hours of work that is, and then I start crying.

DisneyBoy, this must be very exciting for you. I remember awhile back you and I had some fairly lengthy discussions about L&C over on the Entertainment board, when you were trying to tape the episodes on TNT. Now you'll finally be able to see the ones that you missed. :)

Icer
10-18-2004, 01:20 AM
Good, I was starting to think it'd never come out.

DisneyBoy
10-20-2004, 12:46 PM
Aww yes Russ, you'd better believe I'm excited :)

And weren't those conversations fun? I learned most of what I now know about the show thanks to the behind-the-scenes talk of you and the other fans. I did manage to get a large number of episodes on tape, but the quality is getting worse (they don't make VHS tapes like they used to, I tell ya), namely on the "Clone" episodes. "Seconds" just won't make it through another viewing :D

Hopefully, since Dean seems to still remember the show fondly, and Teri is back on prime time (and could therefore benefit from the rekindled notoriety) they could both do some commentary tracks :)

Wishlist time!!!

Since it'll no doubt be Season One that hits stands first (unless WB does something stupid), here are the special features that would make me pleased as punch:

-Commentaries from Deborah Joy LeVine, Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher on The Premiere, Neverending Battle, Strange Visitor, The Green, Green Glow of Home, Foundling, Fly Hard, Barbarians At the Planet and The House of Luthor. Nine episodes isn't too much to ask, is it? ;) Besides, the first season was easily the best of the bunch.

-Interviews with Michael Landes and Tracy Scoggins, as well the as the rest of the supporting cast...but especially those two, since they vanished. Dish!!!

-A featurette doing the usual "See how cool we were when we first came out!" chatting with clips and such. Montage, montage, montage.

-Maybe something with one of the special effects supervisers, who could shed some light on why things aren't quite as high tech as they could be today.

-Gag reel

That would make me happy. Behind the scenes stories about goof-ups, what went right and what went wrong, and favorite moments. Perspective. Down with the generic "this show was great and fun" comments that shed NO LIGHT WHATSOEVER on the history of the show.

And since I like making wish lists, here's my wish list for commentary tracks on the later Seasons:

Season Two: The Phoenix, Lucky Leon, Tempus Fugitive, And the Answer Is...
(I really can't remember which episodes in any way set up the overall plot of the series. Did Dan Scardino or Mayson Drake have any particularily good episodes? Intergag? I threw Lucky Leon in there since I believe it was Lois and Clark's "first" date...but didn't that happen in Phoenix?)

Season Three: We Have a Lot to Talk About, Ultrawoman, Home Is Where the Hurt Is, I Now Pronounce You..., Double Jeopardy, Seconds, Through a Glass Darkly, Big Girls Don't Fly (Six important episodes, one fun one, and one heartwarming one...seven in total)

Season Four: Lord of the Flys, Battleground Earth, Swear to God, This Time We're Not Kidding, Brutal Youth, Faster Than a Speeding Vixen, Shadow of a Doubt, Voice From the Past, The Family Hour (Two Amazing Episodes, one with the old guy who used to play Jimmy but since I never saw it I have no idea if it's any good, THE WEDDING, A cool three-parter, and THE END).

Russkafin
10-21-2004, 06:11 PM
Hopefully, since Dean seems to still remember the show fondly, and Teri is back on prime time (and could therefore benefit from the rekindled notoriety) they could both do some commentary tracks :))
Man, that would be great, I would love to see that. I could see Dean doing it, because he definitely does remember the show fondly, but from what I have read of Teri, she pretty much hated the show by the end, and wants nothing much to do with it any more. I don't think she and Dean are on great terms anymore, either, based on some stuff that was said when she was on Howard Stern not too long ago.

Your Special Features Wishlist is great, I hope we see at least some of that stuff!! I know that gag reels for each season definitely exist, they were created for the cast "wrap party" at the end of each season, and for awhile they were floating around on-line. I don't know if they are still out there, probably somewhere, but those would be awesome to have on the DVD.

All excellent choices for commetary episodes, though I have to add "Tempus, Anyone?" to the list of season three episodes, because I'd love to hear Dean talk about playing the "alternate universe Clark." Plus, that was the only episode to feature Lana Lang, so some "Smallville" comparisons could be fun!


I really can't remember which episodes in any way set up the overall plot of the series. Did Dan Scardino or Mayson Drake have any particularily good episodes? Intergag? I threw Lucky Leon in there since I believe it was Lois and Clark's "first" date...but didn't that happen in Phoenix?
Mayson Drake dies in "Lucky Leon," and Scardino is introduced one episode later, in "Resurrection," so those are good candidates. Clark asked Lois out for the first time in "Phoenix," but their first date was postponed (they end up on a stakeout, which they consider their "almost first date"). The actual first date doesn't happen until Lucky Leon. :)

Spider-Man
02-14-2005, 09:51 AM
I'm not a big fan of Lois & C but I found this bit ofnews while looking for Marvel DVD news that I thought you fans would get a kick out of:

TVSHOWSONDVD.COM (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com):

Warner Home Video has not announced that date yet, but common sense tells us that we should expect it within the 30-day window leading up to theatrical debut of the new Fantastic Four movie on July 8th. Since big budget superhero films always seem to lead to superhero television show DVD tie-ins, we would guess that anything from the first Tuesday in June onward is fair game for a release date for Lois & Clark, and Adventures of Superman as well.

While we wait to announce that street date and all the other details, though, we have an exciting first look at the box for Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman - The Complete 1st Season. We here at TVShowsOnDVD hate to throw the word "exclusive" around, because you never know when the web site up the road on the information superhighway may be showing or telling the same thing, but we think we're the very first place to have this look at the package:

http://207.234.209.30/savegord.com/news5/LoisAndClark_S1_TSoD.jpg

http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2915
http://207.234.209.30/savegord.com/news5/LoisAndClark_S1_TSoD.jpg

DisneyBoy
02-15-2005, 07:03 PM
Excellent!!!

So excited! Woah, this year is going to be expensive for me...I have to get this set when it comes out, and I still have to get Pocahontas Special Edition, Batman Special Edition and Batman Returns Special Edition, as well as any classic He-Man/She-Ra DVDs that may be released this year. Plus there's also Sky Captain, Donnie Darko (either the Director's Cut or the original...or maybe even both!), B:TAS vol2 and S:TAS vol1, all already out yet none in my possession.

I'm afraid :p Ironic isn't it how you wait forever for certain shows/films to be released so you can own them, but when that time comes you don't want to fork over the cash:shrug:

Oh well...thanks for posting this S-M. If only I'd known a year ago that this would be on the way, maybe I wouldn't have put myself through that taping nightmare LOL. Still, it was fun, and now I'll finally get to rewatch House of Luthor. EEE!!! Are you screaming like a little girl too Russ? :anime: Any commentaries? Behind-the-scenes retro footage? Something tells me Dean might have helped out with this, but do you think Teri might have too?

The Penguin
02-16-2005, 07:00 PM
I am officially more excited now. Between this and Dukes of Hazzard, WB is making me very happy with their live action TV properties.

PaQ
02-16-2005, 10:37 PM
Woot! That cover looks great, really takes me back to when it was on. I had almost forgotten this was coming out, I'll definitely keep a look out this summer. Hopefully it's not too expensive.

Russkafin
02-18-2005, 10:13 PM
EEE!!! Are you screaming like a little girl too Russ? :anime: Any commentaries? Behind-the-scenes retro footage? Something tells me Dean might have helped out with this, but do you think Teri might have too?
LOL, well, I would not say "screaming like a little girl," but I am very excited. :D

No official word yet on any bonus features, but I hope they hook us up with something! I heard from a reliable source that there will probably be some interviews with some comic book creators on there. That's cool but I hope we get something from the cast, too... I could definitely see Dean doing it, but Teri I highly doubt.

DisneyBoy
03-11-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm assuming we'd have heard some word on the special features by now...anyone know what's in the works, or if anyone has been contacted (like Dean, Teri or Ms Levine?). Would be nice if they spoke with the actors on the show and did a tribute to Lane Smith, who I believe passed away a few months ago. He was a great Perry. Firm, but with a good heart.

Damien
03-13-2005, 02:03 PM
Well, this pretty much seals Superboy's fate as "Never Gonna Happen. Ever." Glad I bought that bootleg Bizarro DVD at MegaCon...

As far as this set, I might get the first season. I never got to watch much of the show, but I think most of what I saw was early stuff. I remember when they made his costume, an episode where he saves himself as a baby, and an episode where Lois gains his powers (what seasons would those last two be from?).
Anyway, I'm still waiting on The Flash, which is supposed to be released in the spring, so I'm starting to get antsy.

Stu
03-13-2005, 06:03 PM
Lane Smith passed away? When? :(

I'm tempted by this. I remember vaugley enjoying the first season, and groaning at the rest of the show, especially thier generic villains. If we get a nice set of features, and a good price, I'll probably pick this up.

The Penguin
03-13-2005, 07:20 PM
Lane Smith passed away? When? :(Lane Smith is very much alive. According to Kryptonsite's L&C page (http://www.kryptonsite.com/loisclark/lcnews.htm), the 68-year-old actor was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease this past summer, but I can find no mention of him dying. If you scroll down the news page there, they have an address where you can write to him.

DisneyBoy
03-14-2005, 02:31 PM
My bad. Sorry for scaring you kind people. I remembered hearing something about a cast member being sick or dead, and thought it was Lane.

Dogbert
03-14-2005, 02:47 PM
Date: June 7th
MSRP: $59.98
Number of Discs: 6 DVD-9 Discs
Sound: Stereo
Bonus: Two bonus discs with other shows on & $10-$50 rebate with other WB season sets.
Extras: "From Rivals to Romance" series retrospective, Visual Effects Featurette, Dean Cain Pilot Commentary, Original Pilot Presentation.
Full Story: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3116

Russkafin
03-14-2005, 10:03 PM
I remember when they made his costume, an episode where he saves himself as a baby, and an episode where Lois gains his powers (what seasons would those last two be from?).The last two episodes you refer to are "Tempus Fugitive" from season two, and "Ultra Woman" from season three.

Here's a full episode guide if you are so inclined. :) http://www.kryptonsite.com/loisclark/lcseason1.htm

Also, http://www.kryptonsite.com/loisclark/ for more L&C stuff like cast bios, guest stars, interviews, etc.

DisneyBoy
03-15-2005, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the extras update. I wonder if that's all we're getting. If so, that's not bad at all, but I wish there was more than one commentary. Couldn't John Shea have recorded a session for "House of Luthor"? I hate feeling like WB could have made more extras if they weren't so lazy. I'm sure the other actors would have contributed. Maybe if they had, Teri might have said a few words for a featurette or something.

Still, I'm pleased to see they're talking about how the show was when it came out, as well as the dated special effects. One commentary is better than none. Hope there's more to come. This was the best season of the show, after all.

Russkafin
03-30-2005, 11:16 PM
Some surprising good news! Teri Hatcher has actually provided an interview feature for the DVD! :eek:

DisneyBoy
04-01-2005, 03:56 PM
Yah I was surprised by that too. Guess they made sure she wasn't anywhere near Dean Cain at the time :)


Say...not to get innappropriate or anything, but I wonder if they asked her about her relationship with him :) I remember seeing something on a (clean) website about a certain scene from one of the episodes where they are both in bed, and her hands aren't visible...is that all just bunk?

*runs away laughing and hoping he won't get banned for asking*

Spider-Man
06-05-2005, 12:28 PM
For the people who like this show I found the first review of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman DVD set online:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/sitereviews.cfm?ReleaseID=4723

BrendaBat
06-05-2005, 07:47 PM
Origionally posted by DisneyBoy
Yah I was surprised by that too. Guess that made sure she wasn't anywhere near Dean Cain at the time :) I never heard about any grudge between Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher. What was it? Was he getting paid more than her or something?

Origionally posted by DisneyBoy
Say...not to get innappropriate or anything, but I wonder if they asked her about her relationship with him :) I remember seeing something on a (clean) website about a certain scene from one of the episodes where they are both in bed, and her hands aren't visible...is that all just bunk?Well, if I were in a bed with Dean Cain, I know I'd take advantage of the situation. :p

I remember that, when the show was still going, there were rumors about them being an item. But I always figured it was just silly gossip and that it wasn't true .

DisneyBoy
06-06-2005, 01:01 PM
According to rumor, they did get close during the filming of the series, but eventually got sick of one another, to the point where she was pleased when the show ended, and didn't want to hear about it again. But that's what I heard from folks online. There are no interviews to that effect, and let's not forget, she was married at the time, to the actor who played the first Leut. Ching in Season Three. All that aside, though, without the series, she never would have been the #1 most downloaded woman (which isn't exactly the greatest thing in the world, mind you, but it got her on the map).

If she's tired of hearing about the series, I can't blame her. It looked like we weren't going to see her on television again, but then Desperate Housewives came along. Most of the covers I see featuring her these days talk about how she's loving her "comeback"...which implies that she was a "has-been" after L+C.

Nonetheless, I'm glad she's making an appearance in the extra features. Thanks for posting the review...I'll go read it right away :)

EDIT: "Strange Visitor" is listed as episode two even though "Neverending Battle" was aired before it. Russ, or anyone else who can remember, does this switch in the order mess up the chronology? I know in "NB", Clark gets his apartment and fools Lois with a fake map to Superman's spaceship...yet in "SV", Clark actually finds the stolen remains of his ship in Trask's possession. Let me know...

EDIT AGAIN: They mention Tracy Scoggins as being interviewed the bonus features, which is a pleasant surprise, she her character was pretty much forgotten near the end of the first season, but they don't make a mention of Teri Hatcher. Michael Landes would have been an especially interesting person to interview, considering he was dumped after the first season, but he's not there...and yet Tracy is...Hmmm. Maybe she had fewer sore feelings than he did?

DisneyBoy
06-10-2005, 01:12 AM
It's been out for a few days now...why aren't there more reviews online? And why weren't there more reviews leading up to it's release? Don't most DVD websites get preview copies or something...??

Also...how much is this retailing for in Canada and the US? I'm in Canada, and I've seen it in Future Shop for 52 something bucks and then at Blockbuster for 59.99$.

EDIT: Well, here's a review for you lazy people *gets snotty*

http://www.darkhorizons.com/dvds/d-lois.php

DisneyBoy
06-17-2005, 03:27 PM
Well, I hate to post three times in a row...but no one seems to have picked up this DVD set. Or if they have...they aren't talking about it...


:confused:

Anyhoo, I splurged and picked mine up yesterday, immediately watching the special features first, including the pilot commentary. Overall, I'm pleased to see how many people were involved with the bonus features, but the information revealed wasn't tremendously in depth. Sure, there was some great stuff, but Deborah Joy Levine tended to repeat the same stories, which always irks me. Don't do a documentary and commentary if you're going to tell the same stories. Then again, she did say that it had been a decade since she'd last seen the pilot, so I can't blame her for not having every memory readily at hand.

Dean certainly has a true fondess for this series, and I'd be thrilled to hear him tackle some more commentaries on later seasons.

Something I found kind of interesting were the pauses in the conversation. Sometimes it would sound as though the commentary track had been turned off. Coincidentally, when Dean brought up how the series was supposed to have lasted five years (the final season was canned at the last minute), I believe there was one such dead-air moment. Do the networks edit out parts of commentary tracks if they don't like what's being said? It was nice to hear Deborah touch on her "leaving" the show, but since she was booted off (or so I've been told) I was surprised by the amount of decorum she used when mentionning the topic.

I kept waiting for someone to say something about how the character of Lucy would later vanish from the series, only to return once, without explanation, and be played by another actress...but no one even mentionned her, even when she appeared on screen.

Still, the extras were all pleasant, especially the original footage with the wires, and of outtakes from the set.

Part of me wishes TBS hadn't reaired most of the series only a summer or two ago, because now, I've rewatched most of the tapes of the season one episodes and am pretty familiar with this season. If I hadn't caught up, I think I'd be more eager to sit down for a million hours and see things for the first time. Oh well.

Part of me wonders if I'll be able to convince myself it'll be worth buying later seasons. I love all the stuff featuring Lex, the kryptonians and Lex's son, as well as the Ultra Woman episode, the weddings and the finale, but too much of the stuff in between was odd. Hopefully there will be as many extras on future sets that explore different aspects of the show and the storylines. Here are some suggestions, assuming two hours of commentary tracks are permitted on each boxset:

Season Two

- Commentary tracks for "Pheonix" and "And the Answer Is...?" with Dean Cain, Teri Hatcher and Deborah maybe?

- A Documentary detailing the changes in the series beginning with the second season, from Deborah's departure, to Justin Whalin's arrival, and the disappearance of Cat Grant, and reduced role of John Shea.

- First Kiss Documentary detailing the progression of the Lois and Clark relationship from co-workers to lovers, leading up to Clark's popping the question. Would be fun to hear how they wanted to take their relationship and speed it up effectively. They could also get into the subplots involving Drake and Dan Scardino.

Season Three

- Commentary tracks for as many of the following as possible: "We Have a lot to talk about", "Ultra Woman", "Home is Where the Hurt is", "I Now Pronounce You...", "Double Jeopardy", "Seconds", "Through a Glass, Darkly" and "Big Girls Don't Fly". I expect that if two were chosen it would be the finale and "Seconds", but I could be wrong there.

-Documentary on the clone marriage that stunned the world, with details on how involved DC became in making the marriage simulatenous with the event in the comics, and how it shaped the show as well as the audience.

-Commentary on how the kryptonian arc brought the season to a close with a bang, and got the attention of the studio.

(Although, both those things could be covered in commentaries, mind you...)

- Interview with Jay Gruska on composing the music for the series

Season Four

- Commentary on one as many of the following as possible: "Lord of the Flys", "Battleground Earth", "STG,TTWNK", "Voice from the Past" and "Family Hour".

- Documentary on the unexpected end of the series, and what was planned for the final season. Footage of the wrap party, or blooper reels welcome!

- Guest-stars documentary, detailing all the various actors who appeared during the course of the series, with an emphasis on Lois' parents.


Sound resonable? I mean, I hope we get some actual serious discussion down the line, because otherwise all extras turn into a "Gee wasn't it nice?" reunion that really don't provide the viewer with much information. I wonder which (if any!) episode will get commentary tracks. I really expected "House of Luthor" to get one, but alas.

Still, this is a great set, although I'm worried that the stacking of the discs in the set might mead to scratching. Cheap WB. Give us PLASTIC protective cases!

But thanks, nonetheless, for Lois and Clark. Keep 'em coming!

The Penguin
06-18-2005, 10:21 AM
Well, I hate to post three times in a row...but no one seems to have picked up this DVD set. Or if they have...they aren't talking about it...I haven't gotten it yet. It's currently on my needing to be cut down :shrug: DeepDiscounDVD 20% off list.

Still, this is a great set, although I'm worried that the stacking of the discs in the set might mead to scratching. Cheap WB. Give us PLASTIC protective cases!What do you mean? The case looks like it's the same as the B:TAS ones (pretty standard for DVD on TV). Is it not?

DisneyBoy
06-19-2005, 02:44 PM
The case is the same as the B:TAS sets, only instead of having one disc per fold-out page, there are two, and they overlap. The indetentation for the disc on the bottom is deeper than the one on the top, so they both click into place using those plastic nipple things. Have I managed to explain that without sounding completely inept? Hope so...

Steven C
06-19-2005, 05:48 PM
The case is the same as the B:TAS sets, only instead of having one disc per fold-out page, there are two, and they overlap. The indetentation for the disc on the bottom is deeper than the one on the top, so they both click into place using those plastic nipple things. Have I managed to explain that without sounding completely inept? Hope so...
Yes they did the same w/ the Matrix box set.

DisneyBoy
06-19-2005, 11:11 PM
Some more reviews for ya...

A bad one...http://chud.com/dvd/3359

A good one...http://www.thecinemalaser.com/dvd_2005/lac-tnaos-tc1s-dvd.htm

And a fair one...http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=7527

And another...just for fun...http://www.moviehole.net/reviews/1547.html

Stu
10-12-2005, 01:14 PM
The excellent TVShowsOnDVD (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4286) has details, cover art and an episode list for the 2nd season, which will be released on January 17th.

The Penguin
10-13-2005, 12:33 AM
The excellent TVShowsOnDVD (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4286) has details, cover art and an episode list for the 2nd season, which will be released on January 17th.Good news! Good news!

Lots of good episodes in this season with the return of Lex Luthor, Tempus, the Intergang story, Bronson Pinchot as The Prankster, the L&C version of "The Late Mr. Kent" and of course, the Dean Cain-written "Season's Greedings" with Sherman Hemsley and Isabel Sanford!

DisneyBoy
10-13-2005, 10:18 PM
Allow me to post the cover image and details we've got going so far:


http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news1/LoisAndClark_S2.jpg

Special features-wise, tvshowsondvd is listing the following:

- Lois and Clark: Secrets of Season 2
- Marketing Metropolis: The Fans of Lois and Clark
- Commentary on "Seasons Greedings" by Dean Cain

There's also mention of a commentary track featuring Denise Crosby, as she mentionned she was doing one for the set back at the SDCC. It hasn't been listed with the other official extras, but I'm hoping that's just an oversight. While I can understand Dean wanting to do a commentary on the episode he directed, "Pheonix" is really the star of this season, what with Lois and Clark getting in close quarters and Lex rising from the dead, only to be betrayal by Nigel. Good stuff there...and hopefully a commentary along with it. Here's a question, though...would she be doing the entire commentary by herself? If so I find that odd. How much can a guest-star say about a show they only participated in once? Hopefully Dean'll be there to join her.

It seems like I getting everything I wanted, extras-wise. The Season 2 documentary should cover all the bases as far as cast changes (The Jimmy's and no Kat) and hopefully WB will let there be two commentaries on each set to come as well.

Although really, I have no clue as to whether or not they'd be willing to do more than two on Season Three, which has oodles and oodles of good episodes.

Still, I'm excited! Having seen or heard nothing since picking up Season One, part of me feared that would be it. Glad to see I'm wrong. I'm definately going to pick up the three remaining seasons :)

Silly McGooses
10-25-2005, 03:56 PM
What is it with WHV and excluding ONE commentary from its announcements? I think this is the third time now. Weird.

DisneyBoy
10-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Silly, do you get the feeling that the "Pheonix" commentary is part of the package and was left off the press release or something?

I'd like to believe that...

Silly McGooses
10-25-2005, 09:07 PM
I think so...it's happened before

DisneyBoy
11-02-2005, 11:48 PM
Consider both our hopes dashed...



http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news1/LoisAndClark_S2_rear.jpg

...unless Warner Bros is keeping the extra track a secret, which seems unlikely in my mind. I'd really like to know what happened there. "Pheonix" is the best episode of the season, and to not have commentary on it, even from Denise Crosby of all people, is just a shame.

Then again, maybe Denise made a mistake when speaking about her recording session at the Comic Con. Maybe all she meant was that she had to go shoot an interview piece to be featured in the documentaries...and not a full-fledged commentary. That would actually make a lot more sense, given her limited involvement with the show.

...Oh, and they seriously could have chosen some better pictures for the back cover. What a missed opportunity for Bald Lex to get some glory! It's not like seeing the guy from Perfect Strangers is going to convince anyone this set is worth picking up...:shrug:

The Penguin
11-02-2005, 11:55 PM
It's not like seeing the guy from Perfect Strangers is going to convince anyone this set is worth picking up...:shrug:The Prankster made two appearances during season two and was one of the more notable guest appearances of the season and maybe the show. Luthor died in season one, even though his return is a surprise to just about no one at this point, I follow why he isn't on the back cover.

DisneyBoy
11-03-2005, 12:38 AM
I never saw the Prankster episodes, so I didn't realize what's his face played the character. And I was suggesting Luthor on the back cover to at least give this show a sense of continuity in the eyes of the possible consumer. I'm not liking how WB is marketing it as "light comedic" fare. It was that, but it also had a continuity, and some good villains. Luthor being the best of them...

...I would have gone with shots of Bald Lex, Lois and Clark dating (or a shot of Lois and that cop guy, and Clark...or Clark with Drake and Lois) and then a shot of the Intergang crew, as they were also introduced this season. Again, it's not a strong season, but showing the big players would have been a show of faith on the half of the people making this set that the consumers would rather know about the characters who actually play an important role rather than highlighting the few "stars" who dropped by for an episode or two.

Anyhoo, the packaging is still nice, and I'm betting now that Denise was mistaken, and was only called in for a brief interview.

Steven C
11-03-2005, 03:29 PM
Season 1 was the best season of Lois and Clark.

sdp
11-03-2005, 04:03 PM
that is why i don't know if i want the other seasons, i never got to watch them for the most part...

but i am also a completist so i really want them to have the "legacy" :sad:

James Harvey
11-28-2005, 08:39 PM
A press release for the second season set was issued today, courtesy of Warner Home Video (http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/homepage.jsp):

Lois & Clark-The New Adventures of Superman: The Complete Second Season

More High Flying Adventures from Warner Home Video

LOIS & CLARK-
The New Adventures of Superman:
The Complete Second Season

6-Disc Collector's Set Streets on January 17, 2006


BURBANK, CA (November 28, 2005) -- Clark Kent is back in action as Superman with the January 17, 2006 DVD release of Lois & Clark-The New Adventures of Superman: The Complete Second Season from Warner Home Video (WHV). Starring Dean Cain as "the Man of Steel" and Teri Hatcher ("Desperate Housewives") as Lois Lane, this 6-disc collector's set features all 22 episodes of season two plus bonus features including Lois and Clark: Secrets of Season 2, a look at the show direction and other significant changes the series underwent during its sophomore season; and Marveling Metropolis: The Fans of Lois & Clark, a featurette about the relationship between the fans, cast and creative minds of the show including interviews with cast & crew.

"Superman continues to be one of the most popular and iconic characters in our culture,” said Rosemary Markson, WHV Executive Director, Television Marketing. “Lois & Clark- The New Adventures of Superman: The Complete First Season has been incredibly popular on DVD and we expect the Second Season and subsequent releases to perform equally as well.”

Casting a fresh look on a timeless legend, this exciting, action-packed update of the DC Comics Superman franchise captures the daring exploits of the Strange Visitor from Another Planet and brings the city of Metropolis to life. Originally aired in the 1990s on ABC, this humorous and romantic action-adventure series puts a modern twist on the time-honored, legendary superhero, bringing to life the comic book characters Clark Kent (Dean Cain); his superhuman alter-ego, Superman; and Lois Lane (Teri Hatcher), fiction’s first lady of the press, in the most unrequited romance of all time.

DVD Bonus features include:

* Commentary on "Season's Greedings" by Dean Cain (actor and writer of this episode)
* Lois & Clark: Secrets of Season 2 - a look at the new show direction and other significant changes Lois & Clark underwent during its sophomore season, including interviews with cast and crew.
* Marveling Metropolis: The Fans of Lois & Clark - learn about the relationship between the fans, cast and creative minds of the show and hear a humorous Q&A between fans and the "Man of Steel' himself, Dean Cain. Interviews including various cast and crew as well as members of the most well-known Lois & Clark fan group, the FOLC (Friends of Lois & Clark).

The Penguin
11-29-2005, 07:47 AM
Thanks for the info, Jim.

I have a concern I want to get out there to other people because I don't know what will happen with it.

To my recollection Lois & Clark had little to no licensed music in it, but season three will not be as good if they don't ensure that they get what was in the show originally.

If you believe you can be spoiled about an episode that is almost 10 years old I suggest you skip my post.

I don't know if any of you recall "Tempus Anyone?" #3-14 (58 overall), but I've always like this one. The TV.com description is really pretty good...
Tempus is back and now he kidnaps Lois and takes her to an alternate world, where there is more violence, Tempus is running to presidency against Perry, and Clark is engaged...with Lana Lang, his former girlfriend from Smallville. With the help of an older H.G. Wells, Lois tries to stop Tempus from killing Perry and go back to her world, but for this, she needs to teach the alternate Clark how to be Superman.

So Lois teaches this Clark how to be Superman and he takes her on a flight through Metropolis. While they are doing this the song, "Superman" by R.E.M. off of their 1986 album Life's Rich Pageant (http://www.deepdiscountcd.com/index.cfm?request=cd.cfm?upc=724349347823). You can click on the link and hear a preview, it's the last song on the CD. The key part is "I am (I am) I am Superman." I feel this scene would really be hurt if WB doesn't gain/regain the rights to the music and I don't know how much it will cost them for 20-year-old R.E.M. song.

DisneyBoy
01-20-2006, 04:12 PM
Today's the day folks! Lois and Clark Season Two has hit the stores! Check out the official website for rather dull-looking interview clips from the special features:

....okay. I couldn't get the link. Just do a search for it... :p

Russkafin
02-16-2006, 02:20 PM
DB, you ever pick this one up? I have not yet acquired it, due to lack of funds, but I think I probably will break down and get it very soon. I remember discussing this show with you back in the day, and I seem to recall there were a handfull of season two episodes that you had never seen.

DisneyBoy
02-17-2006, 01:38 AM
Definately on both counts: I will pick it up (or recieve it as a gift *crosses fingers*) and you're right about me not having seen much of this season. I've seen Pheonix (and loved it utterly...) as well as the final episodes of the season, (gotta love Niles/Tony Jay...) but the rest of it is a big mystery.

Online reviews have said this was the season that put the show on the map. I have a hard time believing that, since I really loved the first season episodes (thanks to the DVD set) and don't like the sound of Deborah Joy Levine leaving the project with Kat Grant and Jimmy Olsen on her tail.

What was it about this season that kept it from being like what Smallville has been for so many years...a big tease?

For my money, the best season of the show was the third (despite what many fans think). What with Ultrawoman...Lois learning the secret...the whole Wedding Saga (loved it!) and then the fateful Return to Krypton (kinda) arc...I was totally enthralled. Not to mention that Season Three was the first season of the show I was able to start watching as it premiered...

Russkafin
02-18-2006, 12:46 AM
Online reviews have said this was the season that put the show on the map. I have a hard time believing that, since I really loved the first season episodes (thanks to the DVD set) and don't like the sound of Deborah Joy Levine leaving the project with Kat Grant and Jimmy Olsen on her tail.

What was it about this season that kept it from being like what Smallville has been for so many years...a big tease?
Well, DB, I have made it no secret that the first season is, by far, my favorite of the series! It is true that losing Deborah Joy Levine, the "real" Jimmy, Cat Grant and Lex Luthor (as a regular character) was a heck of a blow. Still, season two is not without it's charms.

In my opinion, the season gets off to a bit of a rocky start... I would guess because of the loss of DJL, as well as ABC's desire to turn the show into more of an "action driven" show. We see much more of Superman in costume, and much less of the Lois and Clark "will they or won't they" relationship angle. By mid-season, though, they came to their senses and injected the romance back into the show, while still managing to keep a pretty fair balance of superheroics involved.

A few highlights from this season:

"Season's Greedings" - Written by Dean Cain, it's the show's first Christmas episode, and guest-stars Sherman Helmsley as a toymaker with a grudge and a bunch of "space rat" toys that make adults act like children. Very funny, very touching, very fun episode.

"Tempus Fugitive" - Introduces one of the best villains to come out of the series, the time-traveling Tempus.

"That Old Gang of Mine" - Someone is bringing old mob characters like Al Capone and Bonnie and Clyde back to life... so what happens when John Dillinger shoots Clark Kent in front of a bunch of witnesses??

"Metallo" - One of the relatively few villains from the comics to be translated into the show. Also, Lois's sister Lucy returns, although she is played by a different actress.

"Whine, Whine, Whine" - A hilarious episode about Superman being sued by someone he saved. Guest stars galore, including Adam West, Frank Gorshin, Ben Stein and Martin Mull!!!

"Individual Responsibility" - Smallville has nothing on Red Kryptonite. In this episode, Bill Church Junior (played by Bruce Campbell!) exposes Superman to Red K, causing him to become apathetic to his crime fighting mission! See Superman flirt with a hot blonde while Perry White is kidnapped right in front of him!

"The Phoenix" - Lex is back. Enough said.

By the end of the season, several strong storyarcs and subplots had emerged, from Intergang taking over the crime in Metropolis (Peter Boyle of "Everybody Loves Raymond" plays the head of Intergang), to several love triangles... er, love squares... er, love pentagons forming with the addition of romantic rivals Mayson Drake (Farrah Forke as a lawyer with the hots for Clark) and Dan Scardino (Jim Pirri as a DEA Agent with eyes for Lois).

All in all, season two was pretty solid, despite some trouble getting off the ground, if you'll pardon the pun. DB, I hope you will post some of your thoughts here once you get to see these episodes, I think there is a lot there that you will enjoy.

DisneyBoy
02-18-2006, 08:49 PM
I caught much of the Dan Scardino/Mayson Drake episodes on TNT that summer a year or two back when the show was still airing. I don't see how the writers could have thought Mayson offered any competition to Lois. Why not bring back Lana and have her be the competition for Clark's attention? Maybe that's the easy way out...Lana's always used for that purpose. At least they had the guts to come up with their own character. Too bad she never got anywhere with Clark, if my memory serves me correctly. And she was far from hot, hate to say it and sound shallow...but there you go.

Say, doesn't she do the voice of Big Barda in the DCAU? That says something...

Intergang being lead by the blonde with the irritatingly funny voice was entertaining, and Lex's return with Niles was great stuff.

I just wonder if the rest is irksome or still has redeeming entertainment value. The "big name" cameos really won't impress me much (to quote Shania) so hopefully some of that great Dean v.s. Teri push and pull will be there.

Looking forward to getting this set, and trust me, I'll make plenty of comments when I do.

EDIT: Having been put in an L+C mood, I watched Season One's two part finale tonight. Awesome. Why do people say this show is a soap opera? It's ten times better than Passions, Days or whatever else comes to mind. Genuine drama, clever intelligent writing, great cast.

*SIGH* I started wondering where this so-called "cat fight" between Kat Grant and Lois was going to build towards after hearing Deborah mention it on the featurette. I'd never really paid real attention to the fact that Kat might have seriously fallen for Clark at some point. If she had, there would have been no need for Mayson "eyesore" Drake! Kat has NO competition in the hotness department, save perhaps for Lois.

And what about Jack? There was a great supporting role, well introduced and perfect to include in Season Two! Instead, they ditch two great characters - Jimmy and Jack - and combine them into one medeocre one. Jack had twice as much potential "girl crush" sex appeal than Whalin ever did! What were they thinking? If they'd left well enough alone, they'd have had their "sexy, young tough guy" AND older, charming Jimmy! *slaps forehead*

DisneyBoy
03-01-2006, 02:27 PM
Head on over to tvshowsondvd.com to get a sneak peek at the cover to Season Three of Lois and Clark, featuring what appears to be two photo-shopped images of Lois and Superman stuck together with a dull grey background. Yick. No chemistry whatsoever. In fact, it makes it seem like the couple split up permanently during that season instead of perpetually attempting to get married.

No details on bonus features as of yet...

Russkafin
03-02-2006, 12:32 AM
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And what about Jack? There was a great supporting role, well introduced and perfect to include in Season Two! Instead, they ditch two great characters - Jimmy and Jack - and combine them into one medeocre one. Jack had twice as much potential "girl crush" sex appeal than Whalin ever did!

Not to mention that they seemed to suggest that Jack either knew or at least suspected that Clark was Superman...

DisneyBoy
03-28-2006, 03:44 PM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5369

And the latest news confirms that...............WB doesn't give a hoot about how many awesome episodes there are on this set!
AHHHHH! Not ONE SINGLE COMMENTARY?!?!?

The Penguin
03-28-2006, 08:27 PM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5369

And the latest news confirms that...............WB doesn't give a hoot about how many awesome episodes there are on this set!
AHHHHH! Not ONE SINGLE COMMENTARY?!?!?It is possible they couldn't get anyone. I just want that song to be on there I mentioned in this thread.

DisneyBoy
03-28-2006, 09:30 PM
Dean Cain has been a constant supporter of this series on DVD. I remember reading (possibly on TVshowsondvd.com) that he was recording more commentaries for the future sets, and I presumed that meant this one too.

Unless the bits and pieces of Brian Singer's documentary focus specifically on what happens in the 3rd season of Lois and Clark, I'm going to consider them filler bonus features and be very, very resentful of WB for copping out.

I mean really...pieces of a documentary produced likely to coincide with Superman Returns?!? I won't be buying this set because it has something to do with Superman Returns...I'll be buying it because of what the show was.

Oy. Uber frustration.

This was the season I came on board for. This was the season with the Fun Ultra Woman show, the HUGE Wedding/Clone/Amnesia arc, and the explosively and deeply moving Departure for New Krypton cliffhanger. I mean COME ON! They couldn't find anyone to do a commentary on any of those episodes?

I think not. They're copping out, saving themselves some bucks by repackaging Brian Singer's likely vaguely related doc (which in and of itself is more of an ad for the doc than anything else) and leaving us high and dry.

With a price point of 60 Canadian, I expect something actually devoted to the show on the special features, and one featurette isn't what I had in mind.

I'm glad it's getting released, but this news just totally fries my onions. Totally and completely. They clearly didn't want to pay Dean for his time and just said "toss something about Superman together and they'll buy it".

GRRRR! :mad:

EDIT: I just reread the features list...Who needs a stupid "trivia challenge" hosted by Dean??!?!? WHAT A WASTE! Park the guy in the chair, turn on a mike, and hear what he has to say about one of the momentumental episodes this season gave us! That CANNOT cost a fortune!

*rips out hair*

The Penguin
03-29-2006, 10:55 AM
Well I hope you like being bald.

You wrote that whole rant without even realizing that Cain does appear on the set? Makes me wonder if you've even considered what these features are/could be.

Seeing as how the Singer/Burns feature is excerpts and not the entire thing, it is highly possible that at least part of it is going to talk about Lois & Clark and its influence on the world of Superman. I would expect that it is also being used to promote Superman Returns, but the set has a free movie ticket in it so I am not surprised.

Have you even considered that you might learn things from the trivia challenge? Sure, it could be that the questions are "What was the name of Lex Luthor's butler?" but they could also be items more relevant and interesting which would "combine" several commentaries into one segment rather than having Dean provide commentary on one episode. On Season One he was on the pilot with Deborah Joy LeVine, and the director Robert Butler. On Season Two he was on "Season's Greedings" which he wrote. Both natural choices. Dean did write "Virtually Destroyed" on Season Three but the story came from someone else.

And I would venture a guess that Lois & Clark: A History of Romance will cover the wedding arc in this season. If we hear from the cast I would rather have interviews about the whole thing than commentary on officially one episode where Dean Cain tries to talk about the whole thing.

There are plenty of Warner shows and other shows that are not seeing the light of day. Warner Bros. is giving you this show. They aren't uncaring and evil, trying to deprive DisneyBoy of something he wants. They are more or less giving it to. Throw down those 60 bucks for a show you really enjoyed and if you hate the "icing on the cake" then come back and tell us about it, otherwise, I don't want to hear it.

DisneyBoy
03-30-2006, 10:01 AM
Didn't call them evil. Can't I at least express my disdain that there are no commentaries? Must everything negative that I write be shot down in some way or another? I'm sure you don't love everything Pengy, and might even occassionally "rant" about it...

Obviously, I could end up liking these features...but I know for a fact that I really enjoy commentaries. And so, I feel that WB copped out by not including more than two on the last two DVD sets, and apparently none on this one.

For pity's sake...!

Oh and WB isn't "giving" me this show. I buy it with my money after they put it in the store. It's kind of a 50/50 thing that way. And when I drop 60 dollars, I like there to be a commentary attached.

...otherwise, I don't want to hear it.

...what exactly did I do to you to merit that?!?!

The Penguin
03-30-2006, 10:59 PM
Didn't call them evil. Can't I at least express my disdain that there are no commentaries? Must everything negative that I write be shot down in some way or another? I'm sure you don't love everything Pengy, and might even occassionally "rant" about it...I didn't say you called them evil, that's the feel I got. If anything at all, I get mad about things I've seen. I like commentaries too, but I don't get too bent out of shape over not having them. I haven't listened to the L&C 1 commentary yet, but a lot of them with just the actor aren't even that good. It's tough to fill an hour talking about any one subject. You don't know the reasons there are no commentaries on this set. I don't either, but I have full confidence it wasn't "just because". I don't know how long this date has been set, but WB obviously wanted it out for the "day of Superman."

...otherwise, I don't want to hear it.

...what exactly did I do to you to merit that?!?!I'm sick and tired of the whining that can dominate this place on a bad day. You don't know what these feature mean and I don't want to hear how much you hate them with no real basis. You've done nothing to me, this isn't about you, I would have said the same thing to anyone with a similar "rant". Trust me, I've got a lot better things to do than waste time feuding with people on the internet.

DisneyBoy
03-30-2006, 11:52 PM
I have far better things to do than argue with people online too. And for the record, I never said I hated anything. Don't read too much into what was quite simply an expressed frustration. I'm not exactly breaking down over the fact there are no commentaries, it's just a shame, given that I'm still going to spend the 60 bucks, and not get something I've been really hoping for...

Russkafin
04-20-2006, 02:20 PM
It sucks that there is no commentary on this set, but, then again, did you listen to Dean's commentary on "Season's Greedings" for the season two set? It was pretty much a "play by play" style commentary...

"Ah, now Lois and Clark are going to find out who made the Space Rats. Oh, here comes Denise Richards. Oh, here's where Jimmy rigs the Secret Santa."

Um... another commentary like that, I could do without...

Word is we'll see Season Four on DVD before Christmas. I hope the special features on that one include and explanation and an apology.

Stu
04-20-2006, 02:34 PM
explanation and an apology.
Yeah, it was a pretty stupid show. :p

No mate, is this the final season which ended even though they were confirmed for another season? Was it ever explained why the show was cancelled?

Russkafin
04-21-2006, 03:58 PM
Stu - the fourth season (which comes out in December) was the show's final season, although they didn't know it at the time. ABC had promised them a fifth season, but pulled the plug at the last minute. That's why the final episode ends with a cliffhanger... Lois and Clark finding a baby wrapped in a Superman blanket left on their doorstep.

It was never officially explained as to where that storyline was headed (hopefully if we are lucky the DVD will provide some insight), but kryptonsite interviewed one of the writers, who hinted that the baby was probably left by H.G. Wells to protect it from Tempus, and was either Lois and Clark's baby or a future descendant of Superman's, which would certainly suggest that they eventually succeeded in conceiving.

DisneyBoy
04-21-2006, 07:09 PM
The fourth season really wasn't as terrible as some people remember. Yes, Drew Carey was there, and yes, for the most part, the episodes were forgettable, but the season opened pretty strong with the conclusion of the Kryptonian saga, then the real wedding. I hope we get an explanation as to who the angel in this episode is, cause his presence was rather odd. The Son of Luthor storyline proved exciting, to me anyways, and the fertility angle was a realistic one. I remember watching that and thinking "Wow, I know people who've had problems concieving, and this must be what it's like for them."

All in all, the final season was decent I think. My favorite season was easily the third, which is why I was hoping for the Wedding and Krypton arcs to get some serious special features. All I have is season one right now, and since the sets are so pricey, I'm either going to buy season three by itself and leave two and four for a later date, or wait and see if some kind of packaged deal comes up on Amazon.ca.

The Penguin
04-21-2006, 08:05 PM
I hope we get an explanation as to who the angel in this episode is, cause his presence was rather odd.I just accepted him as a guardian angel who watched over the Planet crew among others. Seemed to work for me. A bit odd yes, but it was an angel hanging out on Earth.

DisneyBoy
05-01-2006, 01:16 AM
That's kinda how I saw it too...but part of me still wonders if the actor used or the character name has some secret significance.


I really hope Teri Hatcher contributes to the third and fourth volumes. It stinks that she's skipped the second one.

The Penguin
05-01-2006, 01:44 AM
That's kinda how I saw it too...but part of me still wonders if the actor used or the character name has some secret significance.I can find nothing about David Doyle (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236329/) that makes him significant, but the character's name was Mike. Michael is the name of an archangel and is viewed (I think anyway) as one of the "head angels" and is probably the most notable one outside of Gabriel.

Nobuyuki sama
05-01-2006, 06:49 AM
Mike Carlin was Editor-in-Chief of the "Superman" comics at the time of Lois & Clark, so it might possibly be a meta-reference to that (MC himself made a quick appearance in Season One).

DisneyBoy
05-04-2006, 12:00 AM
Groovy. Didn't think of that.

There's a great pic of Dean and Teri from her book launch on a certain website I can't name. Methinks she's whispering in his ear "About those special features..." :anime:

The Penguin
06-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Hey L&C fans, with Season Three now out I was wondering if any of you have picked it up yet and can alleviate my concerns about the episode, Tempus Anyone? Below is my original post detailing my licensed music concern witht that episode.

Thanks. :)

I have a concern I want to get out there to other people because I don't know what will happen with it.

To my recollection Lois & Clark had little to no licensed music in it, but season three will not be as good if they don't ensure that they get what was in the show originally.

If you believe you can be spoiled about an episode that is almost 10 years old I suggest you skip my post.

I don't know if any of you recall "Tempus Anyone?" #3-14 (58 overall), but I've always like this one. The TV.com description is really pretty good...
Tempus is back and now he kidnaps Lois and takes her to an alternate world, where there is more violence, Tempus is running to presidency against Perry, and Clark is engaged...with Lana Lang, his former girlfriend from Smallville. With the help of an older H.G. Wells, Lois tries to stop Tempus from killing Perry and go back to her world, but for this, she needs to teach the alternate Clark how to be Superman.

So Lois teaches this Clark how to be Superman and he takes her on a flight through Metropolis. While they are doing this the song, "Superman" by R.E.M. off of their 1986 album Life's Rich Pageant (http://www.deepdiscountcd.com/index.cfm?request=cd.cfm?upc=724349347823). You can click on the link and hear a preview, it's the last song on the CD. The key part is "I am (I am) I am Superman." I feel this scene would really be hurt if WB doesn't gain/regain the rights to the music and I don't know how much it will cost them for 20-year-old R.E.M. song.

DisneyBoy
06-27-2006, 07:57 PM
Haven't picked this set up, despite very much wanting to. I'll only be able to tell you in a few months when A) I have more money and/or B) Hopefully Amazon will offer a discount if you buy seasons 2 and 3 together.

DisneyBoy
06-29-2006, 02:17 PM
I've read some reviews of the set online (just google it), and the special features really sound disappointing for the most part. The History of Romance is more about the...well...history than the show. The trivia game has yet to be detailed, but hardly makes up for a Season Three featurette or commentary, and the doc clips, far as I know aren't specific to L+C.

James Harvey
07-24-2006, 12:40 PM
I have to admit it, but Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman was never a show I watched on a regular basis. I caught a few episodes here and there and had a mixed reaction to what I saw. I thought it was fluffy, ridiculous, and not what I was looking for in a Superman show. Even when realizing I wasn’t the target audience, I still thought the show lacked. Warner Bros has released a multi-disc set collecting the third season of the popular Superman-themed series from the 1990s.

So when fans say the third season was either the best the show had to offer, or when it all went down the tubes, I can’t honestly take sides. When reviewing this disc, I’m watching the vast majority of episodes for the very first time, and the only comparison I have is to a vague memory of the show from years ago. I found Dean Cain was merely adequate as Superman and Lois Lane made a fine, if less edgy, Lois Lane, the show managed to avoid being overly corny. For fans of the show, this is another fine DVD release to add to the shelves. Not great, by any means, but fine to add to the other collections.

I honestly can’t critique the show, not having seen every episode that has come before or after this one. This season, I found, was alright. There were a few fun episodes but overall everything seemed rather by the book. The season does open strong with some great relationship drama and uses that to drive what could have been a lame-duck of a season. The relationship aspect saves most of the episodes and builds the chemistry between the two characters. It’s a good season of the series, but this is the opinion of a viewer who watched the show from time to time as a child.

As for the DVD itself, the video and audio are on par with previous releases along these lines. The picture quality isn’t magnificent but it does represent fairly the video quality of the time. Sometime the visuals can get a bit soft, but redounds and becomes crisp. Pixelation is evident, but it’s minor. As for the audio, this release gets the standard 2.0, which is fine for a release such as this. Again, it matches the series.

As for the extras . . . well . . . I can understand why the fans would be upset. The disc contains just a short 6 minute featurette hosted by Dean Cain concerning the history or romance between the two characters. On top of that we get the usual except from the recent Superman documentary and a quiz. Not much to sneeze at. Even as a non-fan of the show, I find the extras to be considerably light.

On a related note, even comparing to the extras to The Adventures of Superman: Seasons 3 & 4, the extras fall short. A great collection of this classic Superman series, the DVD collects two seasons and has some interesting extras including a look at the series going from Black & White to Color and a peek at the special effects used during the era the show was on television. It’s a highly recommended collection for Superman fans that dwarfs the offerings of this recent “chick-flick” Superman show.

Overall, fans of the show will (and should) pick up the release. It’s a solid collection of the entire season, though the extras could be better. It deserves to be on the shelf beside the previous release for Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.

Russkafin
07-25-2006, 09:52 AM
Hey L&C fans, with Season Three now out I was wondering if any of you have picked it up yet and can alleviate my concerns about the episode, Tempus Anyone? Below is my original post detailing my licensed music concern witht that episode.

Thanks. :)

Penguin, I can happily confirm that the episode "Tempus Anyone?" still contains the REM song "I Am Superman." :) Great song, great scene, great episode!

And DB, the trivia game is pretty laughable. There are ten questions, and I'd say a moderate Superman fan would have no trouble getting a perfect score. Even a casual fan would probably get most of them right. The trivia game is hosted by Dean Cain, who for some reason has bleached-blond hair! If you sit through the whole thing you are treated to a montage of "the best moments of season three" clips.

The Penguin
07-30-2006, 05:50 PM
Penguin, I can happily confirm that the episode "Tempus Anyone?" still contains the REM song "I Am Superman." :) Great song, great scene, great episode!Thank you, Russkafin. :) I feel so much better. Now I just need to hold out for Target to have another one of their $20 (or so) Warner DVD sales.

Russkafin
08-16-2006, 07:46 PM
We have a season four release date and box art!

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6281

November 14th!

DisneyBoy
08-22-2006, 02:49 PM
As well as details on the SUPER POOPY extra features :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6284



http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/LoisClarkS4-back.jpg Could someone please explain to me why WB thinks it's fine to charge 60 dollars (Canadian) for a set that only has the episodes themselves and some silly insignificant featurette where Dean Cain is forced to speak to us like we don't know who or what Superman is? Let the poor man do a commentary! Get an actor or writer to do a commentary!

So we're not going to get ANY dish what-so-ever about the cliffhanging ending to "The Family Hour"?!?!?

You stink WB. You really, really REALLY do.

Glad to have the series, but in a world where every show gets special features of some kind, you took a big hit and treated it like garbage.




P.S. Is anyone else bummed that on the last two season's covers they chose not to use pictures of Dean and Terry together? I KNOW they have more promotional shots from seasons three and four with them together. This photo-shopped together look just looks...cheap. And what's with the bottom right corner of the box? Strange. At least the silver/bronze coloring of the last two volumes is nice.

Russkafin
08-28-2006, 06:25 PM
Is anyone else bummed that on the last two season's covers they chose not to use pictures of Dean and Terry together? I KNOW they have more promotional shots from seasons three and four with them together.

If I recall correctly, most (possibly all) of the promotional shots of Dean and Teri together from the later seasons featured them in "street clothes," i.e. Dean not in the Superman suit. They probably wanted him in the tights and cape on the box, and had to resort to Photoshopping the stars together. Weird.

DisneyBoy
08-28-2006, 06:34 PM
Very strange. It seems to draw attention to the fact that Teri has in the years since the show ended distanced herself from Dean and Lois Lane as much as she possibly could...appearing only on the Season One set, and keeping her comments brief.

username
12-09-2008, 12:18 AM
I just ordered the first season on Amazon.com. From everyone's reviews, the extras are not all that interesting (which is disappointing) but I think I'll live :D

Lane Smith passed away? When? :(

I'm tempted by this. I remember vaugley enjoying the first season, and groaning at the rest of the show, especially thier generic villains. If we get a nice set of features, and a good price, I'll probably pick this up.

Its a shame Lex Luthor was put out of the show by season two. What were they thinking? Lex, as played by the talented John Shea, was their only good (in this case great) villain. Actually inspired Michael Rosenbaum (Lex from Smallville) in the character.

The general problem with their villains is that they weren't very supernatural. So in general, it was hard to make the standard villain somewhat interesting.

Very strange. It seems to draw attention to the fact that Teri has in the years since the show ended distanced herself from Dean and Lois Lane as much as she possibly could...appearing only on the Season One set, and keeping her comments brief.

False. Teri recently divorced from her husband a few years ago, and if you remember, rumors since the beginning of L&C all revolved around Teri and Dean being together, even when she became engaged and gotten married (she was also pregnant by the last season). I don't think she was distancing herself from Dean/Lois Lane at all.

Last year at the premiere of her book Burnt Toast, Dean surprised her and she actually cried! She was really surprise, it was very sweet (click here to see the clip on Access Hollywood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCUlfT-LQFk)).

Russkafin
12-09-2008, 02:56 PM
Thank you for sharing that Access Hollywood clip, I had never seen it before. I wish they had spent a little more time on the Teri and Dean "reunion" and a little less time on how Emerson's classmates found out about Teri getting glass in her eye though.