how would you improve your boomerang

[anime fan]

well how would you if you took over boomerangs shedualing for a day how would you improve it.

if it was me i would have much more hanna barbera stuf.

[JCorey3rd]

On the weekend mornings, I'd show more H-B shows instead of just looping the same 8 hours. Tap into the viewers that grew up in the late 60s and 70s. Show the Banana Splits. And on the weekend nights, I'd show the H-B shows that get referenced on Adult Swim. You have a giant vault of programs, why sit on them? Also I'd create a series like VH1's "I Love the 70s" where people talk about various cartoons along with actually giving the history of the show.

Right now, there's no reason for a slacker to demand his cable company carry Boomerang. Do I really need another Nine hours of Scooby Doo on my TV?

[Kurtman]

It may be slightly modern but I would like to add Sonic SatAM and Mighty Max.

[Steve Carras]

On the weekend mornings, I'd show more H-B shows instead of just looping the same 8 hours. Tap into the viewers that grew up in the late 60s and 70s. Show the Banana Splits. And on the weekend nights, I'd show the H-B shows that get referenced on Adult Swim. You have a giant vault of programs, why sit on them? Also I'd create a series like VH1's "I Love the 70s" where people talk about various cartoons along with actually giving the history of the show.

Right now, there's no reason for a slacker to demand his cable company carry Boomerang. Do I really need another Nine hours of Scooby Doo on my TV?I'll improve on your suggestion, Corey, and offer the following--since Boomernag has POST Boomer garbage--I'll offer the following..

Keep ALL post-1970s programming off--SMURFS AND SNORKS on there? Not only not even comical they are from the 80s, and B!'s supposed to be about toons THROUGHJ,but NOT AFTER, 1979!!!Ugh..

Oh, and one more thing..
I'D MAKE IT AVAIABLE FREE TO ALL CN SUBSCRIBERS, just drop a LINE!!::D

Instead put UNDERDOG, keep TENNESEE TUXEDO (I wish CN would play these as I only have THAT), some of the 70s Paul Coker, Jr.-designed Rankin Bass stuff like RELUCTANT DRAGON, and from indivdual stuioss, LINUS THE LIONHEARTED, and the ORIGINAL, FUNNY versions of the following three: ALVIN (1961-1965), BEANY AND CECIL (1961-1967), and GUMBY (originally on HOWDY DOODY [1947-1960],GUMBY making his debut in 1956 and on his various shows 1957-1968 twenty years before the awful Premavision remake),as well as CALVIN AND THE COLONEL.

Of course we won;t see those form indivdual studios,not before they're from lesser outfits but because of the product shilling of LINUS (though SUAGR BEAR's the only cat who's known today and thus the "advertising" can transcend itself!), and of course CALVIN AND THE COLONEL's just an AMOS AND ANDY (CBS radio,1922-1960-whew! and TV again on CBS,1950-53,then widely syndicated),()no to mention SO Hi the Chinese boy in LtLH) so it's not likely that w'ell see those two,plusownership problems perhaps in Rankin-Bass's TV work (warner Bros.owns half partly due to the Lorimar connection with the studio and Anchor Bay and other corproaate entities own the remainer,not to mention Tolkien, pop band stuff,etc.from outside sources that RB anaimated). BEANY had a lot of stuff that would appeal to modern "sick humor" audiences making it maybe too much.On the other hand the dated aspect of a lot of it could ALSO IMPEDE modern enjoyment of the toon! As for GUMBY and ALVIN, doesn;t seem like the owners of these (Clokey,Warner,Rhino in Gumby's case and Viacom,Universal or creator Ross Bagdasdarian's family in the CHIPMUNK case) ever wanna promote the originals of these, ergo the youngher set will think of Alvin jmust as a 80s character.UNDERDOG and TUX are pretty wlel shown..I guess KIND AND ODIE aren't, given their being lesser unknown. Of course any of those would do if I ever get Boomernag.(Obvious question:Why didn't CARTOON NETWORK jnust show respect for the clsssics and show the old shows, thus eliminating a need for what was after a second channell (BOOM) and create,say a TOONAMI, PRESCHOOOL (thus HAMTARO and BABY LT could be on) and CARTOON CARTOON spinoff, thus sparing US who only have CN the "1930s-1970s withdrawl":D

Now to the H-B stuff I want..it partly included stuff owned by outside entities:
Like (show,year,owners)
SINBAD JR.(previously by Sam Singer)(1965,Amierican Internaitonal,later Orion Pictures
LAUREL AND HARDY (1966, Larry Harmon Pictures Corporation LLC)
ABBOTT & COSTELLO (1967, RKO/Jomar Productions)

SINBAD JR., btw hjad a catchy theme..:)

[Zach Williams]

Get it to everybody. :rolleyes: But, uh, make at least only ONE set of rotations instead of two or three. Then, after that, add more variety. :eek:

[JCorey3rd]

it would also be nice if they included programming on CN/Boomerang's indemand channel - so far after a year it's been empty. Comedy Central always has dozens of shows to watch when I want to.

[Gary L Thompson]

I'll improve on your suggestion, Corey, and offer the following--since Boomernag has POST Boomer garbage--I'll offer the following..

Keep ALL post-1970s programming off--SMURFS AND SNORKS on there? Not only not even comical they are from the 80s, and B!'s supposed to be about toons THROUGHJ,but NOT AFTER, 1979!!!Ugh..

Oh, and one more thing..
I'D MAKE IT AVAIABLE FREE TO ALL CN SUBSCRIBERS, just drop a LINE!!::D

Instead put UNDERDOG, keep TENNESEE TUXEDO (I wish CN would play these as I only have THAT), some of the 70s Paul Coker, Jr.-designed Rankin Bass stuff like RELUCTANT DRAGON, and from indivdual stuioss, LINUS THE LIONHEARTED, and the ORIGINAL, FUNNY versions of the following three: ALVIN (1961-1965), BEANY AND CECIL (1961-1967), and GUMBY (originally on HOWDY DOODY [1947-1960],GUMBY making his debut in 1956 and on his various shows 1957-1968 twenty years before the awful Premavision remake),as well as CALVIN AND THE COLONEL.

Of course we won;t see those form indivdual studios,not before they're from lesser outfits but because of the product shilling of LINUS (though SUAGR BEAR's the only cat who's known today and thus the "advertising" can transcend itself!), and of course CALVIN AND THE COLONEL's just an AMOS AND ANDY (CBS radio,1922-1960-whew! and TV again on CBS,1950-53,then widely syndicated),()no to mention SO Hi the Chinese boy in LtLH) so it's not likely that w'ell see those two,plusownership problems perhaps in Rankin-Bass's TV work (warner Bros.owns half partly due to the Lorimar connection with the studio and Anchor Bay and other corproaate entities own the remainer,not to mention Tolkien, pop band stuff,etc.from outside sources that RB anaimated). BEANY had a lot of stuff that would appeal to modern "sick humor" audiences making it maybe too much.On the other hand the dated aspect of a lot of it could ALSO IMPEDE modern enjoyment of the toon! As for GUMBY and ALVIN, doesn;t seem like the owners of these (Clokey,Warner,Rhino in Gumby's case and Viacom,Universal or creator Ross Bagdasdarian's family in the CHIPMUNK case) ever wanna promote the originals of these, ergo the youngher set will think of Alvin jmust as a 80s character.UNDERDOG and TUX are pretty wlel shown..I guess KIND AND ODIE aren't, given their being lesser unknown. Of course any of those would do if I ever get Boomernag.(Obvious question:Why didn't CARTOON NETWORK jnust show respect for the clsssics and show the old shows, thus eliminating a need for what was after a second channell (BOOM) and create,say a TOONAMI, PRESCHOOOL (thus HAMTARO and BABY LT could be on) and CARTOON CARTOON spinoff, thus sparing US who only have CN the "1930s-1970s withdrawl":D

Now to the H-B stuff I want..it partly included stuff owned by outside entities:
Like (show,year,owners)
SINBAD JR.(previously by Sam Singer)(1965,Amierican Internaitonal,later Orion Pictures
LAUREL AND HARDY (1966, Larry Harmon Pictures Corporation LLC)
ABBOTT & COSTELLO (1967, RKO/Jomar Productions)

SINBAD JR., btw hjad a catchy theme..:)
I think it would be a good idea for Boomerang to unearth more of the forgotten 1950s and 1960s. Your suggestions would be a good starting point. (Next to "Get Smart", Don Adams is most famous for being "Inspector Gadget"--it really ought to be for "Tennesee Tuxedo and His Tales", a far better show. However, as I remember watching "Sinbad Jr.", it was HB which succeeded Sam Singer on that show.) Another thing, Rankin and Bass gets a lot of showing at Christmas, but they did a lot more than Christmas shows, maybe they should start showing those as well.

[Steve Carras]

I think it would be a good idea for Boomerang to unearth more of the forgotten 1950s and 1960s. Your suggestions would be a good starting point. (Next to "Get Smart", Don Adams is most famous for being "Inspector Gadget"--it really ought to be for "Tennesee Tuxedo and His Tales", a far better show. However, as I remember watching "Sinbad Jr.", it was HB which succeeded Sam Singer on that show.) Another thing, Rankin and Bass gets a lot of showing at Christmas, but they did a lot more than Christmas shows, maybe they should start showing those as well.

Agreed/I recall the 1965 Sam Singer SINBAD JR.first then the later 1966 Hanna-barbera one.Sorry if I implied that HB did it first.They didn't.

[nakak]

I'd air more Looney Tunes, Pink Panther, Calvin and Colonel, and Gene Deitch's Krazy Kat (I actually love those cartoons, even though Krazy can be annoying sometimes)

[Gmfox8@cox.net]

I would air The Avan and The Chipmunks Show.

[Prism]

Boomerang already airs enough programming from the 70's(Dark Ages of animation) as it is. What they probably need to do is give equal time to all the decades and studios they have the rights to. That means pre-35 and possibly up into the mid-90s. Their rotation definitely needs to be half a day instead of 3 times daily and they need to quit needless censoring of classics. And it'd be a good thing to bring back Toonheads and others like it to explain the classics.

[Gary L Thompson]

Boomerang already airs enough programming from the 70's(Dark Ages of animation) as it is. What they probably need to do is give equal time to all the decades and studios they have the rights to. That means pre-35 and possibly up into the mid-90s. Their rotation definitely needs to be half a day instead of 3 times daily and they need to quit needless censoring of classics. And it'd be a good thing to bring back Toonheads and others like it to explain the classics.
If Boomerang ever moves its current 1979 boundary into the 1980s (I think this would be inevitable by the next few years, the 1980s is starting to recede to a quarter century ago at this point), I think a smart thing for them to do is reconstruct as much as possible the original 1980s syndication 7-9 a.m./3-5 p.m. blocks that first "He-Man", and then "G.I. Joe" and "Transformers" shortly thereafter, ended up spawning. I imagine that they'd attract a lot of nostalgic Generation Xers.

[greg!]

I want to see all those rare & near impossible to find Hanna-Barbera shows from the early 70's like JEANNIE, PARTRIDGE FAMILY 2200AD, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS, not those horrible super globetrotters...the good ones when H-B was doing their best work. They have such an elaborate library of shows now & they dont use them to their fullest potential.

[ZumbidoMetal]

JEANNIE, PARTRIDGE FAMILY 2200AD

The problem with those shows is they don't have the rights to air them.

[STARTOUNZ]

JEANNIE, PARTRIDGE FAMILY 2200AD

The problem with those shows is they don't have the rights to air them.I'd also like for them to air Fonz and the Happy Days Gang, Laverne & Shirley in the Army, and The Mork & Mindy/Laverne & Shirley with the Fonz Hour, but they'd probably have to get approval from Paramount to do that. :sad: But I'd definitely want them to air Jeannie, the original Addams Family animated series from the 70's, all the Pink Panther series, as well as air all the episodes to Space Stars (including Teen Force), The New Adventures of Huck Finn and Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels.

[Doyng]

:sad:

The HB/RS programs we won't likely see on Boomerang are:

Fonz and The Happy Days Gang
Laverne and Shirley In The Army
Mork and Mindy
Punky Brewster
Rambo
Partridge Family: 2200 A.D.
The Harlem Globetrotters (1970-72)
Jeannie
Abott and Costello
Laurel and Hardy
Sinbad Jr.
Pink Panther and Sons

Sadly, because Viacom/Paramount, Sony Pictures Television, and various properties OWN them, bottom line, it's all about the money!! Until they decide to let Boomerang air them as part of their broabcast library (IMO is absurd because HB and RS animated them from the start), they're going to stay in that dark vault:(. As for other HB programs, here's what they may air in the near future since they are still under the HB/RS library:

Captain Caveman and The Teen Angels (1978-80 seasons)
Space Stars (remaining segments)
Jana of The Jungle
All New Popeye (since they're airing the classic shorts anyway)
Plastic Man
Saturday Supercade (since they have the "Space Ace" segments)
Turbo Teen
Rubik, The Amazing Cube
Biskitts
Monchichis
The Dukes (it's owned by the Warners, right?)

[ZumbidoMetal]

All New Popeye (since they're airing the classic shorts anyway)They don't have the rights to any of the Hanna-Barbera Popeye series, Hearst owns them.

[Doyng]

They don't have the rights to any of the Hanna-Barbera Popeye series, Hearst owns them.Thanks for clarifying that. Oh, well:sad: that's another HB series denied for Boomerang airtime. More programs they have yet to air are: (*=shows that have aired on Cartoon Network in the past)

*Pound Puppies
Challenge of the Gobots
*Wildfire
Foofur
*Paddington Bear
*Heathcliff and Marmaduke
*The Gary Coleman Show
The Addams Family (1973)
*Fantastic Max
*Paw-Paws
*Superted
*Don Coyote and Sancho Panda
*Midnight Patrol
The Little Rascals (unless if King World won't let Boomerang air it)
Smurfs (1988-90 episodes)
Superman (1988 series)
*Dink, The Little Dinosaur
*Alvin and The Chipmunks (the Ruby-Spears series)
The Puppy's New (and Further) Adventures
Dinky Dog (from The All New Popeye Hour, but I seriously doubt if this will air)

I'm sure I may have left out some more, but these surely deserve to be part of Boomerang Saturdays (at least revise 1978-1981, then we'll have to wait if they will bring 1982 back, and then to extend towards the mid 80's from 1983-1986, since they do have the shows to do so) Here's what it should be like with other shows Boomerang/CN has aired or yet to air:

1965-1977: (perfect lineups). They should bring Gulliver and Huck Finn back for 1968. Add The Addams Family for either 1973 or 74. They should add The All New Superfriends Hour (for 1977).

1978: Yogi's Space Race (all three segments), Jana of The Jungle, Fangface, Challenge of The Superfriends. *Godzilla was removed off their library, so that's very:(

1979: Mightyman and Yukk, Rickety Rocket, Plastic Man, Casper and The Angels, New Shmoo, The World's Greatest Superfriends (They've only made 8 new episodes for that season), Super Globetrotters, Scooby and Scrappy Doo, The New Fred and Barney Show and The Thing.

1980: Richie Rich, The Flintstone Frolics, Heathcliff and Dingbat, Thundarr, All
New Scooby and Scrappy Doo, Plastic Man and Baby Plas, and episodes from The Superfriends Hour

1981: Kwicky Koala, Smurfs (bring the 1981 episodes back, with the original opening/closing titles), Trollkins, Heathcliff and Marmaduke, Space Stars (with ALL segments back and opening/closing titles), Goldie Gold and Action Jack and new episodes from Richie Rich and Superfriends.

1982: Pac-Man, Shirt Tales, Scooby, Scrappy, and Yabba-Doo, Puppy's New Adventures, Little Rascals, Gary Coleman Show, and new episodes of the Smurfs (with original opening/closing titles from that season)

1983 (It was coming sooner or later. We are reaching nearly 20 years later since the 80's left us): The New Scooby and Scrappy Doo, Alvin and The Chipmunks, Biskitts, Mr. T, Saturday Supercade (at least in some remaining segments), Monchhichis, Rubik, Puppy's Further Adventures, and The Dukes

1984 (see 1983 for same opinon): Snorks, Dragon's Lair, Turbo Teen, New Scooby Doo Mysteries, and Superfriends: LSPS.

1985 (see '83 for opinion): 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo, Super Powers: Galatic Guardians, Yogi's Tresaure Hunt, Paw-Paws and Galtar (I don't know if the last 3 count, since they've aired on syndication weekend mornings)

1986 (see '83 for opinion): Flintstone Kids, Foofur, Wildfire and Pound Puppies.

I know that was a large mouthful for this post, but it had to be said. Boomerang does have many of these titles in their vaults, but only half of them are airing now (with edited results) and the other half are in the vaults.
In the near future, it'll be likely that the shows not on their schedule for Boomerang Saturdays/monthly will be there. Look at "Heyyy, It's The King." It took them a very long time to resurface that with the "lost" segments from C.B. Bears. That's proof right there!:D

[Doyng]

Oops...

To add to the last post, 1976 should be revised too.

1976: Jabberjaw, Clue Club, The Scooby Doo/Dynomutt Hour (Please, bring the original hour long opening/closing titles from that series. Stop airing them as separate shows without the titles) New Tom and Jerry Show (with the original opening/closing titles), Mumbly (opening/closing titles with it,too) and Great Grape Ape (The original opening/closing titles aired once on CN's Boomerang: 1975, so they still have it).

1977: All shows are perfect as of now. Bring The All New Superfriends Hour to the line-up and bring Laff-A-Lympics back to the line-up. Since Skatebirds have been split up to separate half hour episodes (Mystery Island is now on Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels), air the episodes in half hour versions only.

Remember, these goodies are still in the vaults, but it'll take a while for Boomerang to retrieve them. Until then, I'll just wait ;)

[Gary L Thompson]

:sad:

The HB/RS programs we won't likely see on Boomerang are:

Fonz and The Happy Days Gang
Laverne and Shirley In The Army
Mork and Mindy
Punky Brewster
Rambo
Partridge Family: 2200 A.D.
The Harlem Globetrotters (1970-72)
Jeannie
Abott and Costello
Laurel and Hardy
Sinbad Jr.
Pink Panther and Sons

Sadly, because Viacom/Paramount, Sony Pictures Television, and various properties OWN them, bottom line, it's all about the money!! Until they decide to let Boomerang air them as part of their broabcast library (IMO is absurd because HB and RS animated them from the start), they're going to stay in that dark vault:(.
Well, if it's about money, how much money are those animated properties earning in the dark vault? (I know, I know, I'm talking as if we were dealing with intelligent reasonable people instead of executives of media companies....)



As for other HB programs, here's what they may air in the near future since they are still under the HB/RS library:

Captain Caveman and The Teen Angels (1978-80 seasons)
Space Stars (remaining segments)
Jana of The Jungle
All New Popeye (since they're airing the classic shorts anyway)
Plastic Man
Saturday Supercade (since they have the "Space Ace" segments)
Turbo Teen
Rubik, The Amazing Cube
Biskitts
Monchichis
The Dukes (it's owned by the Warners, right?)
Sounds reasonable, I imagine Time-Warner couldn't have been too happywhen Viacom banished the live-action show along with everything else Nashville Network to the dark vault.

Incidently, my evaluation of "Popeye":

Fleisher: Brillance of course, and still the benchmark.
Future: Still pretty decent, though a bit hyperviolent and formulaic compared to the 1930s and early 40s cartoons.
Kings Feature: Two distinct seasons, one season varies between episodes capturing the eccentric brillance of Fleisher (storywise that is, artwise it doesn't even approach the later Hanna Barbara series) and episodes that are so confused as to be almost unwatchable, the other season is essentially bargain-basement Future.
Hanna Barbara: better than average for SatAM of the day, a rather successful updating of Popeye, if you disregard unfortunate missteps like the dog Dinky cartoons and "Popeye and Son."

Conclusion: sure, bring them all into one place on Boomerang, why not?