ZOIDS: Battle Legends & Legacy [TALKBACK]

[Punisher]

I was browsing at gamestop(and playing the demo for every game they had) and noticed Zoids Battle Legends. It looked cool but unfortunately I did not have $30 on me. My B-day is this Saturday. Should I get it? Is it good?

[JohnCrichton]

I'd like to know myself, actually...

[Artimus Gigan]

The reviews that I've read of it say that it has sluggish controls, the AI is junk, and that the battkle system is poorly made

[TacoHunter]

If you're a fan, you'd probably like it. I want to check it out, but we can't check anything out at work until inventory is over.

Anyway, the handful of Zoids fans I've heard from, say it is good. But I'm not sure which Zoid game this is. I thought it was Versus 2 or 3, but I think it might be the first one.

[bladeliger]

Zoids Battle Legonds is Zoids Vs II. I've got Zoids Vs II and must say that I truly do enjoy the game. Aside from the fact that I can't read the menu, or understand what the characters are talking about, it's an extremely fun game. There are plenty of different zoids with different customs for some of em and you can change the color on all of em. As for the controls, they are a tad sluggish but it's easy to get over. I say if you're a zoids fan it's well worth $30.

[Wilco911]

I hope the translation is better than the GBA game. I swear Atari hired the "All your base" people to work on the import version...

On another related note, does anyone know if the PS2 games will be released stateside?

[Punisher]

I don't know anything about the PS2 game, but since I am a zoids fan I will check this game out. That's why they made recpiets or however you spell that.

[Mr. Obsession]

If you're a fan of any of the Zoids TV series, I'd say buy it. There's nothing cooler than taking your favorite character, putting them in their Zoid, and smashing your enemies around.

For example, in the "Vs." mode I just pitted Bit in the Liger 0 against Van in the Blade Liger. Sure Van kicked my ass and took my lunch money, but I haven't had this much fun loosing a game in a long time. Though I did mange to get in one Strike Laser Claw. :D

There's also the Zoids Battle (tournament mode) that lets you take on teams from Chaotic Century, Guardian Force, New Century 0, and when you unlock them, the Zoids Saga games. There's the "Zoids Fist" a practice mode of sorts. And there's a mission/story mode that lets you play as an Imperial or Republic military team.

Yes, the complaints about the game are valid. The controls are sluggish (but I'm getting the hang of them), the graphics aren't the best, the AI is cheap, and the voice acting absolutely sucks. I wish Atari had actually paid to bring back the Blue Water and Ocean actors for the game, or at least included an option to play with the Japanese voices instead. But despite all that the game somehow manages to just be fun.

Maybe I'm just too big a Zoids fan, but the good things about the game far outweigh the bad for me.

[Punisher]

sweet. that settles it. I'm getting this game.

If only Atari polished their titles they could really get a respectable name. They have only made two games i own, with plenty of faults themselve. DBZ budaki(what does that stand for) and Ikaruga. They should take their time and polish them.

Who cares. i'm still getting zoids, even with the problems.:)

[JohnCrichton]

If you're a fan of any of the Zoids TV series, I'd say buy it. There's nothing cooler than taking your favorite character, putting them in their Zoid, and smashing your enemies around.

For example, in the "Vs." mode I just pitted Bit in the Liger 0 against Van in the Blade Liger. Sure Van kicked my ass and took my lunch money, but I haven't had this much fun loosing a game in a long time. Though I did mange to get in one Strike Laser Claw. :D

There's also the Zoids Battle (tournament mode) that lets you take on teams from Chaotic Century, Guardian Force, New Century 0, and when you unlock them, the Zoids Saga games. There's the "Zoids Fist" a practice mode of sorts. And there's a mission/story mode that lets you play as an Imperial or Republic military team.

Yes, the complaints about the game are valid. The controls are sluggish (but I'm getting the hang of them), the graphics aren't the best, the AI is cheap, and the voice acting absolutely sucks. I wish Atari had actually paid to bring back the Blue Water and Ocean actors for the game, or at least included an option to play with the Japanese voices instead. But despite all that the game somehow manages to just be fun.

Maybe I'm just too big a Zoids fan, but the good things about the game far outweigh the bad for me.
Sounds like a potential bargin bin gem, Mr. O. Thanks for the heads up. But with a few A-listers in line first, Zoids will unfortunately have to wait.

Wish they'd tooled the game in to an RPG. Now THAT I would buy!

[Mr. Obsession]

Wish they'd tooled the game in to an RPG. Now THAT I would buy!
Then you might want to look into Zoids: Legacy for GBA. I picked it up with Battle Legends, but haven't really had the time to play it yet. But from the short time I spent poking around in it I can tell you it's a turn-based RPG where you fight with Zoids.

[William C. Maune]

Game Spot now has a review up for the GBA game:

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/rpg/zoidslegacy/review.html

[JohnCrichton]

SOLD! :D

If only they'd do a game like that on the GameCube with a relatively high budget, I think they'd have a hit on their hands.

But this GBA game looks pretty tight. Depending on how much it costs, I might just have to pick this up! Thanks for the heads up!

[Punisher]

The GBA game looks nice, but now that i got my new nintendo power, the reviews for battle legends scare me. The highest it got was three stars, the lowest it got was two stars. Noted for learning to play a chore, evil AI, and can't aim and fire at the same time.


Heck, it sounds like Resident Evil and I love RE. I wouldn' trust NP, these guys said Wario Ware was awesome and give a title perfect scores every other issue. It's worth a try to play.

EDIT: I meant wario world, the GC game. Please forgive my typo.

[William C. Maune]

Wario Ware got great marks from most reviewers.

[Wilco911]

I just beat Legacy yesterday and something's been confusing me...does anyone know the correct timeline the series/games/etc are supposed to be put in? The in-game database has it out of order.

This is how it lists them with comments by me:

Chaotic Century (original series)
Guardian Force (second season/series)
Zoids Zero (sequel to CC/GF)
Liger Zero: Silver Beast (Gameboy game, apperently the furthest down the timeline)
Zoids Saga: (? No idea where it fits into the timeline. The main character from it is a prince that is decended from the orginial Zoidians and pilots the Trinity Liger)
Zoids VS: (Another ?, it's characters use the BLOX-based Zoids that were introduced in the non-canon Zoids Fuzor and shares most of the Zoids from it. No Energy Liger, though. :mad: I haven't played the GC game by the same name, so I don't know if it's based on it. Also, isn't this the name of the new anime series being produced?)
Zoids Legacy: (This game, of course...doesn't really fit anywhere into the timeline.)

And for the record let me state that I wuv my Liger Zero X. Hard to believe that when I first got the model this summer it was just a random impulse buy because it was on sale for 7 bucks. :D

[JohnCrichton]

How was Legacy, Wilco? I'm about a couple nanos away from picking it up.

[Wilco911]

Aside from a few gripes, it's awesome.

I only have two real complaints. (Besides not having the Energy Liger :mad: )

1) The new characters introduced for the game have little to no background information. I think the female lead is the only one who gets anything remotely resembling character development. Because of this the game has a lot of unanswered questions at the end.

2) Like I said mentioned before, the translation sucks and is full of Engrish. For example, how the heck did Brad from Zoids Zero get turned into "Ballad" when his name is Brad in both the Japanese and English versions of the anime? :eek:

In a couple days I'll probably replay it since beating the game allows you to unlock hidden Zoids that you can't normally use....now if only one of them was an Energy Liger....

[Mr. Obsession]

For example, how the heck did Brad from Zoids Zero get turned into "Ballad" when his name is Brad in both the Japanese and English versions of the anime? :eek:

It's the same thing in Battle Legends, I think the same translation team did both games. At least the voice "actors" (and I use the term very loosely here :() in Battle Legends say the correct English names.

Seriously, the voice acting in Legends is my only real complaint at this point. The minor characters didn't get off too badly, but the main ones just aren't the same. I almost wanted to cry the first time Raven spoke. :(

I really hope Legends and Legacy sell well enough that Atari brings over Vs. 3 and the first Zoids Saga game. But if they do, please, for the love of God, spend the time and money to polish up the final product.

[bladeliger]

Hmm, from the sounds of things looks like I got off rather easy with the import of Vs II. Personally, I'd rather see the names in Japanese rather than see them misspelled in English. And throw in the fact that I haven't seen a Japanese version of Zoids (though I really want to) so voice acting isn't a problem for me. Looks like I'll be buying Vs III rather than waiting for Battle Legonds 2:shrug:. Which is kinda depressing since I really want a good English Zoids game.

[Punisher]

Wario Ware got great marks from most reviewers.MOST? Both EGM(Electronic Gaming Monthly) and Gamespot hated it. But i wouldn't beleive them and so I rented it. I hated it. My whole family hated it. My friends hated it. The game had the exact same enimies in every level, they just looked different.


Back on Topic, it would be REALLY nice if Atari imported Zoids vs 3. Then they can sell it. and i can buy it.

[Wilco911]

Personally I want them to get whole new translation and QA teams before they even attempt to import anything else. :sweat:

[JohnCrichton]

Picked up Zoids: Legacy and am geeking out over the prospect of getting my own kickass Zoid and hanging out with the likes of Bit Cloud and Van Flighheight.

I might even have to dig up my old Zoids tapes sometime. :D

Indeed, I hope these games sell enough and generate enough buzz to get more and better versions out.

Ever since I saw the first episode of Zoids CC, I felt that it had the serious makings of a heavy hitter RPG in the right hands.

[Wilco911]

Something else I forgot to mention, don't forget to head into the options before starting the game. You get to customize your own battlecry. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/McKlown/ZoidsLegacy1.jpg

[Punisher]

Is that picture from Legacy? God, that looks aweful good for a GBA game. The only one that looks better than that is Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. And I agree on working on their translating people before they import another game.:rolleyes:

[Wilco911]

Yep, that's an in-game screen. I get the feeling the Zoid graphics turned out so well because they've already got so much source material to work from.

Cripes, that reminds me...I still havn't finished putting together all the pieces for the X armor from the Empire Liger Zero/Liger Zero X model.

[JohnCrichton]

I started my game already... is it too late to edit my battle cry?

Damn do they have some seriously jacked translations in thsi game. Is it so hard to just hire people who know English?

I have to say I'm loving this game. But when do I get a new Zoid? This Saberlion is ugly as friggin' hell. Do you catch Zoids.. buy them.. or what?

[Wilco911]

I'm not sure, but it'll probably still let you edit the battlecry.

Soon you'll be getting two commands. One is used to gather info on a random Zoid from the battle, the other is to salvage random special parts(Zoid Cores or any special parts specific to that Zoid). Once you have the info and the core and/or parts needed you can go into any Zoid Lab in the towns and have the Zoid built. What's slightly annoying is that the commands HAVE to be used on the last turn of the battle, so you can't use both at the same time. Further down the line (like practically at the end of the game) you get new replacement commands that let you specify which Zoid to get data/parts from by destroying it last.

[JohnCrichton]

I was able to edit my battle cry.

Finished all the Battles in one town and now I guess it's on to the next. I got myself a Zoid Core but wasn't quite sure what to do with it.

Wish you got to choose what your first Zoid was. I still can't stand this Saberlion.

[Duke]

MOST? Both EGM(Electronic Gaming Monthly) and Gamespot hated it. But i wouldn't beleive them and so I rented it. I hated it. My whole family hated it. My friends hated it. The game had the exact same enimies in every level, they just looked different.
I OWN Wario Ware, and it's friggin addictive. It's the new Tetris. :)

Anyway, I now seriously wanna pick up the GBA game, it sounds cool.

[JohnCrichton]

I'm having a friggin' blast playing this game. Thanks to all you guys who pointed Zoids: Legacy out to me!

I'm having the damnedest time finding decent Zoids wallpaper tho, most specifically Zoids Saga II (which I guess is what it is that I'm actually playing here) wallpaper.

I hope this sells well, cuz I absolutely love this RPG and there seriously needs to be more like it.

[JohnCrichton]

There's also the Zoids Battle (tournament mode) that lets you take on teams from Chaotic Century, Guardian Force, New Century 0, and when you unlock them, the Zoids Saga games. There's the "Zoids Fist" a practice mode of sorts. And there's a mission/story mode that lets you play as an Imperial or Republic military team.

What's this aobut unlocking Zoids Saga games?

Dammit.. I am going to have to get the Zoids GC game now aren't I? :sad:

[Mr. Obsession]

Yes. Yes you are. :p

I haven't done it yet, but one of the rewards you get can get in the game is unlocking the ability to play the tournament, fist, and Vs. modes with the characters from the GBA games.

I think that might be one of the reasons they decided to release Vs II and Saga 2 (instead of the first game) in the US at the same time.

[JohnCrichton]

Do you need a GBA link cable? And what do you get from linking the game to your GBA?

I can tell Z:L is going to be burning a lot of batteries in the near future, now I wish I'd gotten a GBA SP with its fancy schmancy rechargable battery.

But the Zoids Saga unlockable.. it's just more characters to fight as, not the actual first RPG, right? Cuz with I understand Zoids Saga I never mad it here.

[Duke]

I can tell Z:L is going to be burning a lot of batteries in the near future, now I wish I'd gotten a GBA SP with its fancy schmancy rechargable battery.
Or you could just get a GBA Player...

[JohnCrichton]

Oh yeah.... I already have one of those.. almost forgot. But I do have to admit, playing this game on the go is extremely satisfying and getting this kinda gameplay in the palm of my hand is kind of an attractive novelty, too.

I think it's that I expect to look at better on my TV, maybe. Not to mention now I can watch TV and game at the same time. :D

[Mr. Obsession]

Do you need a GBA link cable? And what do you get from linking the game to your GBA?

Nothing as far as I know. At least nothing about linking a GBA up was mentioned in the manual. The GBA characters (which are in Legacy [Saga II]) are unlocked by beating the tournament mode with the mission mode (Imperial/Republic) characters from Battle Legends, who are in turn unlocked to play in the tournament mode by beating their respective story in the mission mode.

As for Legacy, I just started really playing it last night and aside from some translation issues, this game is fantastic. Though I don't know what your problem with the Saberlion is JC. I think it's a good Zoid to start off with and putting Bit Cloud in it as soon as I could was one of the best decisions I've made so far, since he's ripping through my opponents in it. Maybe you just need to change its coloring? :p

[JohnCrichton]

What I have a problem with is a giant saber sticking out of a giant robot tiger's nose. That just looks stupid. :p

But yeah, Bit Cloud's now piloting it and kicking the hell outta Zoids left and right. Me and Zeru are piloting Juno's Gun Tiger.

God, I love those names! :D

Speaking of colors, I'm thinking my new Gun Tiger could use a better one than Juno's hot pink.

I switched something in the character settings that has Tiger-bots as Zeru's main Zoid that should boost his levels by 10 or something. Yet, I'm not noticing any difference. What's up with that?

[Mr. Obsession]

Zeru gets a 10 level bonus when he's in Tiger and Liger type Zoids, Bit gets a five level bonus when he's in Liger Type Zoids (He also has some other bonus that I can't remember at the moment). So, say Bit's level 5. If he's in the Saberlion (which is a Liger type Zoid) the game will automatically calculate everything he does as if he were at level 10.

When you go to change the pilot of a Zoid a stat page will come up showing you how the selected Zoid's stats will change with the new pilot.


In Battle Legends I've was able to collect enough money to buy the Liger Zero in the tournament mode. I now have a new found respect for Bit, because when all you've got for weapons are some chest cannons and a short range claw attack trying to hit your opponents is HARD. :eek:

[JohnCrichton]

How's the music in the GC version? Similar at all to the anime?

And for the level boost, Zeru and I still suck when compared to Bit Cloud so far.

Also, back me up in the Toonami thread I made. Zoid fans must know and rise up to show their support of this game series that has some serious potentail, I think.

[Punisher]

I OWN Wario Ware, and it's friggin addictive. It's the new Tetris. :)

Anyway, I now seriously wanna pick up the GBA game, it sounds cool.Oh crap, did I say wario ware? I meant the Gamecube one. I too, own the GBA game, and, as you said, it is friggin adictive. Sorry about the mistake everyone. I am not a wario ware hater.

You guys still haven't convinced me that i need legacy, but i'm definetly getting battle legends.

[Punisher]

Also, back me up in the Toonami thread I made. Zoid fans must know and rise up to show their support of this game series that has some serious potentail, I think.Sorry for double replying, but I had to. And JC, I have made a post in the toonami thread. we could get into an argument or something on it so it will stay on the front page. It worked with me before. I agree ZOIDS FANS RISE UP! POST IN THE TOONAMI THREAD ALSO!

[Duke]

Oh crap, did I say wario ware? I meant the Gamecube one. I too, own the GBA game, and, as you said, it is friggin adictive. Sorry about the mistake everyone. I am not a wario ware hater.
The GameCube one's decent. I like some of the multi-player games.

[Mr. Obsession]

How's the music in the GC version? Similar at all to the anime?For the most part it's forgettably average. Some of the BGM seems to come from the animes, but from what I've encountered don't expect anything that will get your blood pumping, like "No Future." :(

And JC, if you haven't gotten there yet, your days of the Saberlion will soon be over. :D I was just given the Shield Liger as a gift and it's making mincemeat of my opponents.

[William C. Maune]

So I'm guessing the "Wild Flowers" music isn't in the game either? I don't know what it was, but in Zoids:CC every time that music kicked in you knew awesomeness was coming.

[Mr. Obsession]

Nope, no "Wild Flowers" either. Unless the themes play at the end of the NC0 or GF tournament modes (which I doubt). I'm kind of alternating between that and the mission mode right now, and not advancing very far in either anymore. There's a pesky Lightning Saix in one that keeps on getting me and in the other the Liger Zero Schneider just won't fall down.

[JohnCrichton]

Oy! My kingdom for a Liger Zero Yaeger!

Mr. O and all those who've found the joy of Zoids: Legacy.... get over to the Toonami Thread and let all the ZOID fans ther know that they have to pick up this dope as game, because it's 18 different kinds of kickass.

Sorry for double replying, but I had to. And JC, I have made a post in the toonami thread. Or something! It's hard to justify posting up all that we're just talking about right here.

Maybe it'd do right to get this Thread Name Changed to ZOIDS: Legacy & Legends as well and put it into our sigs?

I can't wait to see where this game leads and I hope enough people pick it up. What was Atari thinking when they picke that cover to the game? It alone keeps me as a ZOIDS fan from wanting to buy it. If they'd used the art that they have up on the START screen as their box art, then no doubt they would've sold more and I wouldn't have needed a message board to tell me that I might wanna check it out.

Atari better hope that word of mouth is good enough.

[Mr. Obsession]

Oy! My kingdom for a Liger Zero Yaeger!
Bah. Sure the Jager looks cool and its fast, but that’s about it. I defeated the Jager faster than I did the standard Liger Zero. Now the Schneider, that’s were it’s at.

Thanks to the combined efforts of my supporting Gojulas and my supped up Blade Liger MJ I was finally able to take down the stubborn Liger Zero Schneider and breeze through my remaining challengers leading up to the final showdown: The Berserk Fury.

The battle was epic.

With the clock ticking down, my Gojulas and the Fury’s supporting Geno Saurer were nothing more then smoldering piles of slag, and both our reaming health bars were dangerously low. That’s when it happened. The Fury began to power up it’s ultimate weapon, the Charged Particle Gun.

Determined not to loose I raced forward, as I did so the Fury unleashed its beam of raw destruction. But it was not too late, dodging to the side I was able to evade the beam and deliver the killing blow with my Liger’s blade. Victory was mine.

After watching the games credits roll by and my winning Zoid running through the landscape of Planet Zi, I loaded up my winning save and went to take on the CC/GF teams. But there was one thing to do first.

Using my new found, but minor, fortune, I purchased the now unlocked Liger Zero Schneider. In my capable hands the Schneider made quick work of all who dared to challenge me, though I will admit that Raven’s Genobreaker did caused some difficulty.

After the fight with Raven I assessed my funds and decided to add one more Zoid to my roster: The Berserk Fury. It was time to face my next opponent…

Moonbey in the Ultrasaurus.

Taking my supporting teammate out of the trusty Gojulas, I put them in the Fury to provide cover fire while I made quick work of the Ultrasaurus with the Schneider. But Moonbey had other ideas and the Schneider was tossed around like a ragdoll.

Regrouping I decided to try a different tactic. I made the Gojulas my supporting Zoid once again, but this time I decided to take on the awesome power of the Beserk Fury myself.

The plan was a simple one, using the Gojulas to provide a cover fire and distraction I would use a move and fire tactic to chip away at the Ultrasaurus’ health with my B-Cannons. And with the opponents attention divided it was working. Staying out of range of the long distance cannon was easy enough as was evading the occasional missile barrage that came my way. But then it all started to come apart. The Ultrasaurus proved too much for the Gojulas. With the distraction gone, my defenses quickly gave way to Moonbey’s relentless assault.

My health quickly evaporating I decided to risk it all with all-or-nothing gambit, a full on blast from my Charged Particle Gun. Gathering the power for the blast to end all blasts at pointblank range I let the Ultrasaurus come closer, waiting until I could see the preverbal whites of Moonbey’s eyes.

And then, with my EX gage just about full, as I went to release the trigger and win the battle, the Ultrasaurus stepped on me. Game over.


One day I’ll return to challenge the mighty Ultrasaurus, and like the once unstoppable Schneider, it too will fall. That I swear. But until then, as I lick my wounds, I think I’m going to go hang out with Zeru and rebuild my confidence. And confidence is something I’m going to need. I’ve been hearing rumors in the places where the unsavory Zoids Warriors hang out. Somewhere out there Hiltz is waiting for me after I’ve beaten Moonbey. Waiting for me with the Death Stinger.

[Wolfie~Giri]

i got it yesterday at EB games for $25 bucks knowing that i figured it must've got not that many good ratings or something else..

I'm still playing it..but even the first levels are hard if you don't know what your doing.. the diolauge gets boring as well as the music..

But still it's fun and I just got a shadowfox happy am I..:anime:

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, I'm sold. As a huge fan of Zoids I must get Legacy the first chance I get(hopefully today after work).

[JohnCrichton]

I think I’m going to go hang out with Zeru and rebuild my confidence. And confidence is something I’m going to need. I’ve been hearing rumors in the places where the unsavory Zoids Warriors hang out. Somewhere out there Hiltz is waiting for me after I’ve beaten Moonbey. Waiting for me with the Death Stinger.Not...... THE DEATH STINGER!!! :eek:

I've got to go find Zeru! He's going to need my help!

http://www.stalker.org/~sean/emoticons/page4/sprint.gif

[Artimus Gigan]

Bah....it's King Gojulas that's the bad ass...


Death Stinger is nothing comapred to that

[Wilco911]

How many Zoids does the GC game have, anyway? Legacy has a grand total of 151.

...why does that number seem familiar? :p

[JohnCrichton]

Man, these caves I'm in are hard! Was I even suppose to go in here alone after the Galil Storm Stadium?

[Wilco911]

That's one is optional, but there is stuff down there to collect. Off hand I can't remember what all it is, though.

[Mr. Obsession]

JC, after Galil Storm head Northeastish to the town there. After the events there head back to the cave. I think you'll find it much easier. ;)

[JohnCrichton]

*Sitting with Zeru covered in soot next to a beat up Gun Tiger*

Gotcha... I think we'll try and fight our way back outta this cave then. Found a lot of stuff down here and have racked up a TON of cash and experince, so hopefully that'll help in the town northeast.

Thanks for the tip!

C'mon, Zeru... time to get back to work!

[Dark Soul]

Is the game worth getting I'm not sure. But if I can't find StarWars Battlefront I'll settle for this if its good.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, I bought the game, and I'm loving it. I just cleared all the stadium battles in the second town and I'm having loads of fun customizing my Zoids and all that. Damn this is so freaking fun.

[Punisher]

Today, since it is my birthday, I got Zoids: BAttle Legends. So far the game is pretty good but there are some things that could be improved.

AI: Totally unfair, hard. To me, this is the only major fault the game has. The AI is unbearingly evil, the first batlle took me half an hour to beat, the second one took exactly 1hour and 23 minutes. I didn't keep track of how long it took me to beat the third battle, but it was a hard fight.

I made a bonehead move and bought the blade liger instead of the elephander. Now I'm trying to win the money for the elephander.

A small complaint I have, nothing major, is my partner(Irvine) is dumb as a rock. I literally beat Raven and someone else all by myself because my partner was lost even though I gave him the commands I wanted to.

Besides that, this game is real good. The graphics are sharp, and the zoids look beautiful. The voice acting is bearable, but not good. The music, though forgetable, is pretty good.

FINAL:**** out of *****
that's 80% out of 100%
Definitley worth the purchase if your a zoids fan.
If only I could check out Legacy now...

[bladeliger]

Personally, I like goin into battle as the Lightning Saix with the super booster on (not too sure what it's called but really any booster will work). Then u slap on a few weapons and missles (doesn't really matter) and you're set. Just have your support (I personally had a suped up Iron Kong) do most of the attacking as you run circles around your enemy firing your main cannon and meleeing it from time to time. Before you know it the enemy is done, and you are victorious. ALL HAIL THE AWSOMENESS OF LIGHTNING SAIX!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D

[Punisher]

I was gonna buy the lightning saix, but I noticed the zaberfang(I forget what came after it, but it cost me$40,000). I compared the stats and zaber was much stronger. So i bought it, and now I'm stuck trying to beat the ultrasauras.
I bought the elephander AG and it is awesome. Does anyone know what happens after you beat ultrasauras? Are there even MORE challanges?


It's gonna take me forever to buy all the zoids.:(

[bladeliger]

If you've beaten story mode as either Republic or Empire then you can play VS with those characters. If you're asking what waits you in the CC/GF timeline after Ultrasauras, I believe you got two fights on you're hands. The Death Stinger, then the mother of all zoids....DEATH SAURER!

[Punisher]

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll go continue my empire story, even though i've only completed two missions.

If I ever beat ultrasauras, I know I have worse things ahead of me:(

[JohnCrichton]

Well, I'm sold. I think I'll either pick up Zoids: Battle Legends today or tommorrow.

[Duke]

Quick question. I can only get one Zoids game. Do I get the GameCube or the GameBoy version?

[JohnCrichton]

I'd say go for the GBA version. You get a full story there with new characters (I just got my first Organoid, Pulse!) and 151 Zoids to customise and make a team out of.

It's not unlike being able to sit down and enjoy a new ZOIDS series.

Here's a peak at what the game looks like:
http://www.emuxhaven.net/forum/uploads/post-15-1095327711.jpg

[Wolfie~Giri]

Personally, I like goin into battle as the Lightning Saix with the super booster on (not too sure what it's called but really any booster will work).
speed booster is bestest option on Zoid:D

I also enjoy the lighting Saix yet I still like battling with the Command Wolf AC thing..but that doesn't leave the shadow fox out either..

favorite weapon is the 8 missile pod (close enough to the real name)

[Punisher]

Bow down to me! I have sucessfully beaten battle mode! To give an idea of how powerful my zoids are now, I'll tell ya(I quit trying to beat battle mode with van and switched to bit-he has much easier enemies).

I got the Beserk Furry-haven't tried it yet*
The Killer Spine-VERY POWEWFUl*
Zero shcneider-one of the best zoids in the game*
lightning saix-very good for hit-and-run*
shadow fox-average, still pretty good
iron kong TD-pretty good at close and long range combat*
Elephander SS-very good for facing other big, slow zoids*
sea striker-weak, my least favorite
space sea striker-haven't tried
cannon tortise-beginer zoid
molga-beginer zoid
command wolf-beginer zoid
atak cat-beginer zoid

And finally, THE GOJULUS GIGA! that thing cost me $150,000, but it was worth it.


Once you get the more powerful zoids(*) the game is a heckuva lot easier. I'm cruisin' through battle mode with these zoids.

Sorry if I butchered some of their names.
So far this game is definitly worth the $30 I got it for:)

[JohnCrichton]

I simply cannot stop playing Zoids: Legacy. Here's a question... would you recommend this game to anyone who hasn't followed the anime? Is this game as good as I think, or is it because of the anime that I feel like this is one of the best games I've played in a long time.

With the amount of time, dedication, love and fun I'm putting into this game, it's starting to rank right up there in my heart along side Skies of Arcadia, Knights of the Old Republic and Shenmue Saga.

God I hope more Zoids games come out!

[JohnCrichton]

Bought the Zoids GC game and found that I should stick to RPG's as I got friggin' wasted in under 50 seconds.... continuously!

Yeah, the A.I. in this game doesn't care if you think you're the main character. They're coming after you and not stopping until you are dead!

I hit START and the whole screen erupts with missle and laser fire as my Command Wolf gets pummeled into oblivion. The blast let up for just long enough for the smoke to clear and a Zaber Fang to appear out of nowhere to slash and bite me 'til my 'bot explodes.

This game is going to take some getting used to. And this was up against first level scrubs! I can't frelling imagine what the fight against the Ultrasaurus, the Death Stinger or the Death Saurer would be like. http://www.ryanjpeters.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif



Frickin', OUCH! Gonna take some time to get used to that game. Wish they had given me a better Zoid or a more forgiving trainig program before putting me against souch tough and swift opponents.

[Mr. Obsession]

JC, if you want to make the battle mode infinitely easier, here's what I'd recommend:

Pick Bit as your main character, so you can face the easier NC0 teams (Bit also has the highest close combat score out of the characters you start with). Then pick whichever second character you want that has a decent Arms score (for distance bombing).

Now, put Bit in the Molga and your second character in either the Command Wolf or the Cannon Tortoise (whichever one you want to use for your support Zoid).

Go to the shop and sell the remaining two Zoids. You'll now have enough money to buy the Blade Liger KS. Put Bit in that and sell the Molga. Use the money to buy some optional components for the Liger and some distance weapons for whichever Zoid you've got for support.

Now go blaze through the battles and rack up some serious prize money and "S" rankings. :D

Seriously, with Bit and a Blade Liger the only battles I had any problems with on the NC0 track were against the Schneider and the Berserk Fury. Once you beat the NCO teams all the custom NC0 Zoids (even your beloved Jager) and pilots are unlocked.

After a while I'd buy a better Zoid for your other pilot though.

I hit START and the whole screen erupts with missle and laser fire as my Command Wolf gets pummeled into oblivion. The blast let up for just long enough for the smoke to clear and a Zaber Fang to appear out of nowhere to slash and bite me 'til my 'bot explodes.
Sounds like you got spanked by the Fuzzy Pandas. :p

[JohnCrichton]

Dude, the Fuzzy Pandas serve me my arse on a silver platter with a nice side of Kianti. :p

Thanks for the tips.

Any chance that can also be done with the Story/Mission Mode, or do I just grit my teeth and bare it?

[Mr. Obsession]

In the story mode you're stuck choosing between the Zoids and the components you're given (I mean you are in the military). Though the list of stuff you have to use does grow over time.

For example, in the last mission I played in the Republic side I was given a Shadow Fox to use. Now on my current mission the Shadow Fox is available among the usable list of Zoids I can choose.

It's really all about looking at the map before the mission and strategically choosing your Zoid and armaments based off the opponents you'll be facing and the battlefield you’ll be on.

Besides the Zoids the strategy and the level of customization in this game are probably the reasons I love it so much. And its part of the reason I hope it sells well enough that Atari brings over Vs. III, because of the improvements Vs. III made to the game (http://www.zoidsdestiny.com/zoidsgc/zoidsvsiii.htm) (like Vs. II made over the first game).

[Wilco911]

I just realised something about Legacy...none of the Blade Ligers have access to their blade attacks. :eek: I skipped right from a Shield Liger DCS-J(sp) to a Liger Zero so I never noticed before.

And after looking at the VS screenshots on that page, I have just one thing to say:

Who wants to contribute to the "Buy Wilco a Gamecube" fund?

[JohnCrichton]

Wow... I'd kill to be able to fly me a flying Zoid like the Raynos or Storm Sworder.

Anyway, my friend needs you guys' opinions. He asks:

"The Piemaster"
Post 263
10/5/2004 1:19:56 PM
Zoids: Legacy http://www.ryanjpeters.com/images/divider.gif
Aiight, so now I feel like I'm missing something.
Would I get severe enjoyment from these games if I'm only a low key Zoids fan?
Which would be better? The RPG? I do like me some big robot battle games, especially since the shots I saw showed city battles. Are the enviornments destructible?
What say you guys?

[bladeliger]

Tell him that so long as he's a remote Zoids fan, he will definately enjoy the games. He does know how many Zoids are in the games and how customizable they are right? Maybe this fact needs to be restated for him so he gets the idea how much these games rock. For me, that reason was all I needed to get them.

[Punisher]

I simply cannot stop playing Battle Legends. My stragey ealeir on was simple: buy an iron kong Mk right off the bat, and blaze thru the levels. buy the time I got to the final level(this was using Bit) i had enough money for the strom tyrann. I easily beat the final mission with that baby. Then I picked bit again and blazed thru his levels again. and again. and again. I now have over 25 zoids, including the Iron Kong Marry. That is what you have to do JC. Beat Bit's levels many times, buy many powerful zoids, and you will then be ready for Van's levels. Just remember to keep saving over the same file or you cannot use your cool zoids you got in the other file. With Gojulas Irvine and the Killer Spiner I blazed thru Van's levels. Here is my account of my bloddy win over the ultrasauras, who is, in my opinion, much harder than the death saurer.

With the beserk furry in my control, I gave the iron kong marry to my partner, irvine. My tactics were to send irvine in to close battles with the ultrasauras, while chipped away at its health from a safe distance. It was all fine and dandy until irvine, being the idiot he always is, tried to attack the ultrasauras head on, which will always only result in a death. That's exactly what happened to irvine, and the ultrasauras set its sights on me. Unlike Mr. O, I never once tried the charged particle cannon, as I found a much better way to fight. Every time the Ultrasauras would get ready to balst me, i would jump on its back(normally not a smart thing to do. but I was temporally insane at the time) from there I shot away until I eventually won. This is what everyone should do.

I love this game. When you get used to the difficulty, it gets really fun. don't lose hope in the game anyone. buy an iron kong.:)

[JohnCrichton]

Thanks!

Got any world for my friend who's wondering how much of a fan you have to be to get into these games?

*points two posts up*

[JohnCrichton]

Okay! Now having taken Mr. O's advice, I'm not kicking ass and breezing by battles like a cheap bastard instead of getting beat the hell up, which is pretty nice.

I dig that there are a lot of Zoids to choose from, a variety of armament and found out how to control my back up support so that I'm now having Leena drop bombs from a distance while Bit and I blast ahead in the Blade Liger KS and just circle, circle and circle around opponents 'til they blow up!

Fuzzy Pandas were finally made to be the chumps that they are and Brad and Leon also didn't stand a chance.

So far the game is simple and easy, now that I spent just a little time in the hanger to better prep my Zoids. I'm getting a kick out of it and am looking forward to the uber title fights like taking on the Liger Zero Schneider and the Berserk Fury. http://www.ryanjpeters.com/images/emoticons/thumbs.gif

[Punisher]

Okay! Now having taken Mr. O's advice, I'm not kicking ass and breezing by battles like a cheap bastard instead of getting beat the hell up, which is pretty nice.

I dig that there are a lot of Zoids to choose from, a variety of armament and found out how to control my back up support so that I'm now having Leena drop bombs from a distance while Bit and I blast ahead in the Blade Liger KS and just circle, circle and circle around opponents 'til they blow up!

Fuzzy Pandas were finally made to be the chumps that they are and Brad and Leon also didn't stand a chance.

So far the game is simple and easy, now that I spent just a little time in the hanger to better prep my Zoids. I'm getting a kick out of it and am looking forward to the uber title fights like taking on the Liger Zero Schneider and the Berserk Fury. http://www.ryanjpeters.com/images/emoticons/thumbs.gif schneider was actually pretty easy, but then I was using an iron kong. I don't know how far you will get with a blade liger, but I din't get very far at all. Soon after countless frustrating battles, i deleted my file and started over. but hey, do what ever floats your boat.

there is a limit to how many zoids you may buy, as I found out tonight. I didn't count my zoids, but I had a lot. After selling all the useless zoids(rev raptor, any liger besides schneider, panzor, and jager). with all that cash I had left(300,000) I bought the ENTIRE Gojulas series, plus the dark horn harry and green horn. I now have all the powerful zoids except a few geno breakers, geno saurer, and the iron kong pk.

If you want a real challange, try the ultrasauras.
Quick question: can you buy the ultrasauras, death sauror, and death stinger? I have beaten van's missions two times thru and only gotten the gustav. i REALLY want that death sauror.

[Mr. Obsession]

schneider was actually pretty easy, but then I was using an iron kong. I don't know how far you will get with a blade liger, but I din't get very far at all.

Not very far with the KS, but by the time I was up against the Schneider I had enough money to upgrade to the Blade Liger MJ. With the improved speed and durability (it's the best Blade Liger in the game) I was able to pull off more hit and runs around the buildings on the Schneider level battle field.

Though you're right about the Liger 0 armors, once you have them virtually all other liger's are useless in comparison. I can't really speak for the Energy Liger or the Areo Liger though, one's to expensive for me to by at the moment and the other I haven't unlocked in the story mode yet. I also want to see if the famed Liger Zero X is everything I've heard it to be, but again I need to beat the story mode first.


As for the Ultrasaurus, I didn't think you could jump on its back. I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks. :)

[Kinel Ozoa]

A few questions, this game turn bassed? I've never been much for the turn bassed stuff except for KOTR, but I'm a fairly large zoid fan. I could save and save to get a gameboy, then try and find the game cheap, but I'd wanna be sure it's worth it first. which sounding from everything said, I won't need much conveincing.

[Mr. Obsession]

Zoids: Legacy is a good old fashioned turn-based RPG. Battle Legends is a straight up action game.


Now I guess I'll have to beg for help. I beat the Ultrasaurus, but couldn't jump on its back for the life of me though, literally. :p I went with a Lightning Saix and by circling around the Ultrasaurus, mostly keeping right behind it, I pretty much let the Ultrasaurus finish itself off with it's own missiles. :D Then I went up against the Death Stinger and won, and the Death Saurer and almost won. I think one or two more tries and I'll have it. That's not my problem.

My problem is Republic mission #6 in the story mode. I'm stuck choosing between a Shadow Fox, Snipe Master, Cannon Tortoise, and Command Wolf. And no matter what I go with the Lightning Saix I'm up against in the mission always ends up taking me out. Any advice? :(

[Punisher]

Zoids: Legacy is a good old fashioned turn-based RPG. Battle Legends is a straight up action game.


Now I guess I'll have to beg for help. I beat the Ultrasaurus, but couldn't jump on its back for the life of me though, literally. :p I went with a Lightning Saix and by circling around the Ultrasaurus, mostly keeping right behind it, I pretty much let the Ultrasaurus finish itself off with it's own missiles. :D Then I went up against the Death Stinger and won, and the Death Saurer and almost won. I think one or two more tries and I'll have it. That's not my problem.

My problem is Republic mission #6 in the story mode. I'm stuck choosing between a Shadow Fox, Snipe Master, Cannon Tortoise, and Command Wolf. And no matter what I go with the Lightning Saix I'm up against in the mission always ends up taking me out. Any advice? :(can't help ya with the republic mission, as I'm doing empire.
By the way, jumping on the ultrasauras' back is extremely difficult. I had the beserk furrh and right when moonbey was about unload her particle cannon on me, I would jump on its neck and blast away until I got pushed off. I don't know how I won.

Now that I have Gojulas Giga with its long range cannon, I beat moonbey in under a minute.

Death sauror, you just have to keep your distance. fire away while you partner takes the pain:)

[JohnCrichton]

A few questions, this game turn bassed? I've never been much for the turn bassed stuff except for KOTR, but I'm a fairly large zoid fan. I could save and save to get a gameboy, then try and find the game cheap, but I'd wanna be sure it's worth it first. which sounding from everything said, I won't need much conveincing.
Zoids: Legacy for the GBA is straight up turn based, but if you're a big or fairly large Zoids fan and you were able to dig on KOTOR, then Zoids: Legacy is a must have.

Zoids for the GC is also a must own for Zoids fans.

[Mr. Obsession]

can't help ya with the republic mission, as I'm doing empire.

But I want the Liger Zero X. :( Man, the difficulty of the story missions certainly puts the GF teams to shame. At least with those I have a chance.


By the way, jumping on the ultrasauras' back is extremely difficult. I had the beserk furrh and right when moonbey was about unload her particle cannon on me, I would jump on its neck and blast away until I got pushed off. I don't know how I won.
:eek: That's just insane. I was trying to jump on from the back. There's no way I'd attempt that from the front.

I briefly thought about doing that on the Death Stinger, but since that would put me point-blank for the Charged Particle Gun.... ;) Funny story about the Death Stinger. I was able to get it to chase me as I circled around buildings and as I came around a corner to get off one more hit-and-run I found it wedged between two buildings, unable to move. :D So I just blasted away from behind until it was dead.

[JohnCrichton]

If I ever find myself head to head with the Death Stinger, I'll remember to run through narrow passages. :D

[Mr. Obsession]

It was pretty hilarious actually. The DS knew I was there so it kept on trying to turn around and jump but it never quite made it. :D

I finally beat Republic mission #6. It involved a Snipe Master, a booster, a missile pod, and a whole lot of running and jumping. For my troubles I now have access to the Desert Liger.

[Punisher]

:eek: That's just insane. I was trying to jump on from the back. There's no way I'd attempt that from the front.

I briefly thought about doing that on the Death Stinger, but since that would put me point-blank for the Charged Particle Gun.... ;) Funny story about the Death Stinger. I was able to get it to chase me as I circled around buildings and as I came around a corner to get off one more hit-and-run I found it wedged between two buildings, unable to move. :D So I just blasted away from behind until it was dead.Dang, you got off easy with the death stinger:( . The death stinger had me in a position where I could never land an attack on it. It would hit, I would fall, get up, and then get hit again. It's a good thing my partner had good firepower or else I would have been doomed.

I'm stuck on empire missin #4 or 5, I forgot. It invovles A LOT of sea strickers and trying to get away from something.

Anyway, with the ultrasauras I was insane at the time.:) I would never have attempted it if I was thinking straight.

I'm really considering buying legacy, but I do not have enough money:( I could trade in a few games, but I doubt gamestop has legacy. They had sold their only copy of battle legends so I had to go to EB games to get it. IS legacy as good as everyone says it is?

[Mr. Obsession]

Shoma's Log: Day 8.

I think I've found my new best friend, the Snipe Master. Not only did it help me get out of that tough spot against that crazy Lightning Saix, with it I was able to protect the Hover Cargo in my last mission without taking a hit. Sure the HC took a few, but it's built to do that.

I'd like to rest but it looks like I'm getting some new orders....

Let's see, two Elephanders but I only have to hold out until reinforcements arrive. It's going to be tough but I think it's doable. Wait there's more. Looks like there's also... the Bloody Death Saurer...

...what the ****?!


I should have signed up with the Empire... :(



Shoma out.

[JohnCrichton]

Your jokes alone have sold me both these games and given me the perseverence to continue playing, Mr. O.

Have any words for my friend who's seen only some Zoids and liked it? Are these games worth getting if you don't consider yourself a hardcore Zoids fan?

[Punisher]

[QUOTE=Mr. Obsession]Shoma's Log: Day 8.

I think I've found my new best friend, the Snipe Master. Not only did it help me get out of that tough spot against that crazy Lightning Saix, with it I was able to protect the Hover Cargo in my last mission without taking a hit. Sure the HC took a few, but it's built to do that.

I'd like to rest but it looks like I'm getting some new orders....

Let's see, two Elephanders but I only have to hold out until reinforcements arrive. It's going to be tough but I think it's doable. Wait there's more. Looks like there's also... the Bloody Death Saurer...

...what the ****?!


I should have signed up with the Empire... :( [QUOTE=Mr. Obsession]

Empire is not much easier. Here are my directions for my mission: escape and secure something... as you said"what the ****?!"
I only have too escape from an infinite amount of sea strickers and somehow(as far as I know) jump over a huge wall with a thing that shoots at you. I NEED more thorough detail on how the heck i'm going to complete the mission! geez!


To answer your question JC, a person who is not a hardcore zoids fan must have patience and keep their cool in order to love battle legends.

[Punisher]

I have started the republic story. This one mission in empire story pissed me off so much I just figured Republic couldn't be harder. I was wrong.

That elephander challange Mr. O was talking about was HARD. But I sucessfully manipulated it so one elephander killed the other one, leaving me one beat-up elephander. I took care of that though, and on to next challange: Bloody Death Sauror. The good thing is, you get two partners. That baby was no problem for my liger aero.

The next challange is SO MUCH HARDER! You have to face two iron kongs, as far as I know. They literally played volleyball with me.

I love this game:)

by the way, if you have ever remotly heard of zoids, you should definitly pick up legacy. if you like challanging games with awesome rewards, check out battle legends. this is my advice

[James Bester]

just got legacy and i have to say that its a really cool game. not very challenging at first but then i got to the chaotic century part and everything changed. now ive gotten to the second dungeon at the ruins and gotten the liger zero. this game is a great rpg especially for zoids fans.

[bladeliger]

Thanks!

Got any world for my friend who's wondering how much of a fan you have to be to get into these games?

*points two posts up*
If you're remotely familiar with Zoids it's definate that these games will become favorites of yours. I have a brother who's never seen zoids or anime (except when I watched them on the TV) who played VsII and had a hard time putting it down. Obviously he complained a little more about the AI then me but he was able to get over it and enjoy himself. He hasn't been able to play Legacy since I wont let him near my GBA. :evil:

Hope this helps a little.

[Wilco911]

What's the Bloody Death Sauror? Is it sort of a red, hunched over DS with two giant gatling guns attached to it's back? For some reason it's called the Bloody Demon in Legacy.

[JohnCrichton]

Alright, flew through the battles with ease... but with D Rankings. Do I need higher rankings to be able to tangle with the Death Stinger and Death Saurer or something? Last fight I had was with the Berserk Fury and the back up Genobreaker.

How do I get to the other potental battles and Zoids in the game?

[Wilco911]

Check the link Mr. O posted on the previous page, it has info about unlocking stuff.

So who's glad they don't have to face this in Legends? The Jagd Stinger.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/McKlown/JagdStinger.gif

[Mr. Obsession]

Have any words for my friend who's seen only some Zoids and liked it? Are these games worth getting if you don't consider yourself a hardcore Zoids fan?

If you're only a remote Zoids fan than I'd emphasize Legacy more. But there's just something about Battle Legends. Parts of it are hard as hell and at times the AI is just unforgiving, but despite all that I still keep on coming back for more with a smile. Once you get past the surface Battle Legends is a deep game that offers layers of customization and requires strategy. And most importantly it's a fun game when you get in to it.

If you're a huge Zoids fan, simply put you must own both. If you're just a moderate one I'd still suggest buying Legacy, but maybe give Battle Legends a rental.


Oh, and JC, to take on the Death Saurer, Death Stinger, and Ultrasaurus you have to have a CC/GF character as you main character, since those Zoids are on the CC/GF track. Go with Van and you'll face them soon enough. Though I'd probably run through the NC0 track one more time.

[William C. Maune]

Do these games have any multiplayer modes and if so has anyone tried them?

[Mr. Obsession]

Battle Legends lets you go head-to-head with a friend, but I haven't tried that out yet. Vs. III, which I'm hoping Atari will bring over, has reportedly added (among other things) the feature of letting up to four people play at once.


MasterG3. I've discovered something about the Republic missions: the Snipe Master pwns. When I went up against the Elephanders I just used the booster to run away to the other end of the field and sniped them to death. No damage to me. Then against the Bloody Death Saurer I stated where the game put me at the beginning of the map and sniped away. Once I ran out of bullets I just ran circles around it and killed it with my missile pod.

I just did the rescue mission with the Iron Kongs. Basically I circled around the fort and took out the turrets with my missiles than lured out one of the Iron Kongs. After I took out that one, went after the other one in side the fort. I just about had him when the time ran out.

So far I'm not too impressed with the D Bison I just got or the Areo Liger I got in the last mission.

[Punisher]

thanks Mr. O!
I was using the desert liger because the weapon I have on it will do serious damage if you can stay alive. Man, using the snipe master would have been a helluva lot easier against the elephanders then the way I choose: rush in with liger and hope for the best. Snipe Master is awesome though, I haven't lost a single mission with it.

I guess I'll try it you way. This ought to be fun.

[Mr. Obsession]

I just realised something about Legacy...none of the Blade Ligers have access to their blade attacks. :eek: I skipped right from a Shield Liger DCS-J(sp) to a Liger Zero so I never noticed before.
I would have responded to this before, but I just finished the part where you team-up with Van for the first time. He had a Blade Liger and its blade attack most certainly worked. I took out several enemies with it.

Maybe you're just using Zeru's two attack option?

[JohnCrichton]

Word, son. Me, Zeru, and Van were straight jackin' some punk arse Imperial forces t'gether, know what I'm sayin'?

And Van... his blades were pretty much all I used of his while I went all upside the heads of fools in my Custom Zaber Fang Old. I love this thing! :D

Now... guess I'm looking for a warp out of this timeline here.... searching....

[JohnCrichton]

What determines Rankings? I keep getting D and C's.

[Wilco911]

Ah, I see where the problem was. The normal Blade Ligers do have the blade attack, but for some reason the AB varient doesn't, just a Lsr Saber chomping attack(even though it still has the blades). Since both varients have "Lsr" in their grapple attack names I was getting them confused.

So in Legends, all the Liger Zero varients count as seperate Zoids? In Legacy they're just seperate CAS armor sets you can switch back and forth between.

[Punisher]

Mr O! I need your help!

As you said, the snipe master owns. I blazed thru the missions with it, destroying my oppenets from a safe distance... that is until I have to destroy two chimera dragons and a lot of atak cats! i have tried every zoid on this mission and failed. Any advice?

Oh, my I played a little of my friends legacy. It is awesome. Buy it. That game rocks.

[Mr. Obsession]

What determines Rankings? I keep getting D and C's.

It's based off how much damage you and your partner take (the less the better), how much damage you actually inflict on the enemy (if your partner, or the enemy takes down and enemy Zoid it doesn't count), and how quickly you finish the match.


So in Legends, all the Liger Zero varients count as seperate Zoids? In Legacy they're just seperate CAS armor sets you can switch back and forth between.

I don't really get it eather. But I guess if you could CAS in the middle of a battle it would make the Liger Zero too powerful.

Mr O! I need your help!

As you said, the snipe master owns. I blazed thru the missions with it, destroying my oppenets from a safe distance... that is until I have to destroy two chimera dragons and a lot of atak cats! i have tried every zoid on this mission and failed. Any advice?

O_O

I haven't gotten that far yet. :( I'm kind of alternating between Legends and Legacy, and right now I've been playing Legacy.

[Punisher]

that mission is evil:evil:

I'm gonna take a break from zoids for a day or two so I can gather my thoughts and think of a strategy.

P.S. That atak cats can get cloaked, which makes it very hard:( . Doesn't help having three cloaked atak cats on you and chimera dragon shooting at you-try this and you will experience my pain.

sorry that I accidentaly gave away a future mission

[Mr. Obsession]

That's ok. What mission number are you on?

[Punisher]

lets see here(counting fingers) maybe around three missions after the elephanders battle. I wasn't counting but i'll check the game to make sure.

Lets move over to the toonami zoids thread so it will stay on the front page. More people must hear of this game! Although i never figured this thread would become this BIG when I started it.:eek:



http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:jZf32eWQZ0MJ:http://www.tomy.co.jp/zoids/zoids_cn/imeg/marina17.jpg (http://www.tomy.co.jp/zoids/zoids_cn/imeg/marina17.jpg)-pretty sure this is from Zoids Vs. 3, since the website was all japanese. makes me want Atari to import this game even more. Battle legends and legacy MUST sell well.

[JohnCrichton]

I just ran into a boy who seems to have his own Liger Zero, and lord.. I want it! I'm hoping by the end of these ruins the kid finds himself really not in need of such a cumbersome Zoid.

I mean, I've enjoyed my time dearly with my Custom Zaber Fang Old, but that Liger Zero...... that thing is just sexy. Imagine me rollin' up to the club in that thing and I bet ALL the honeys would be sweatin' me.

You know, if I'd found more games as engaging as Zoids: Legacy, I would've invested in a Game Boy SP.... which I probably will sometime in the near future.

[Mr. Obsession]

Ok, now that I know where you are in the game I think I can safely say you're going to geek out when you get to the second continent. Which shouldn't be to far away for you, story wise.

And just so you don't get your hopes up, when you hook back up with Bit, he won't get out of his Liger Zero either. ;)

I think I've got it worse than you though. I've got the Liger Zero data, I've collected dozens of the Wild Zoid data that's needed to build a Liger Zero, but none of the wild Zeros I keep on destroying will drop the Liger Zero's freaking Zoid core. :( The Geno Breaker I built has almost made up for that though, almost.

[JohnCrichton]

Drat! The kid skipped my dimension with his Liger Zero! I wish I could find a site that would tell me where all these characters are from. Is there more animes than just the three we've sene over here?

Was there a BLOX anime?

Man, with how good this game and world is, I have to seriously wonder how anyone could've screwed up the Zoids anime franchise.

I noticed just a second ago when I check the map that I still haven't left my little area of the continent yet, which is definately encouraging as it means there's plenty of game left to play! ^_^

I unfortunately haven't gotten around to making any new Zoids of my own yet. A Geno Breaker in your squad must be awesome! Now... where do I find this Sandstorm Areana....

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Don't worry, the kid rejoins you later.


And I think all these other characters are original creations for the game.

[Wilco911]

As far as I've been able to figure out, all the characters besides the CC/Zero people are from previous video games.

[Wolfie~Giri]

In battle legends it now has become a serious problem in tournament mode
..for me.. to go up against the ultra soarer then after comes the death stinger and finally the death soarer..

This isn't my day especially with Irvine as my partner no offense to him but he just doesn't obey the commands i give him plus most of his missles somehow always get to the Blade Liger MSG (my zoid and the name might not be right)

and does anyone else have this too?

In the loading process does anyone's say loading please do not touch the control stick or c stick.. cause mine does..

it's really strange..

[Punisher]

I don't know why it says don't touch the control stick or C stick. Maybe a translating error? I fool around with the C stick all the time in those loading screens. Doesn't do a thing.

Did you just start tournament mode? If so, you should start over and pick Bit as your character. Van's missions are impossible for a newbie to play. Go through Bit's tournament a couple times to get used to the game. Then buy some powerful zoids. After that you could try Van's missions if you're confident in your ability. Also, I usually don't give my partner a command because they fight better that way.

At long last, I finally beat Republic mission mode. It was long, painful, and sometimes frustrating. But it was worth getting the death stinger AND mad thunder. Both are awesome. Not to exclude liger Aero, which became buyable after I beat Republic.:)

I have now started empire, and its easier then republic so far.

[Wolfie~Giri]

Also, I usually don't give my partner a command because they fight better that way.
Thanks..at first i thought they would just do nothing if i didn't order commands:sweat:

well anyway I beat the tournament mode and gained a lot of new pilots willing to give them out a try also..

[Mr. Obsession]

Was there a BLOX anime?

Zoids Fuzors. :(

[Punisher]

i have just beaten empire today! It was definitly worth earning the ultrasauras, although the fight against it was brutal and frustrating. Now, I can buy the diablo tigers in battle mode, plus the two cyclops. Now, I'm currently working on trying to save up enough money for the ultra z($990,000!!:eek: :( :mad: ) for my zaber fang ss(my favorite zoid).

This is gonna take forever.
I want come out of my room for at least a week.
Just thimk about trying to buy the ultra z for EVERY zoid:eek:

[Mr. Obsession]

So then, now that you've done both would you say the Empire is actually easier, or would you say you've just gone over the game's learning curve?

I really need to get back to Battle Legends, but right now I'm just too far in to Legacy.

[Punisher]

I would say Empire is easier than Republic, except for the final battle against the ultrasauras. That one was incredibly hard. mad thunder in Republic was MUCH easier to beat. Besides that, and the escape mission with all the sea strikers(there is only one way to escape as far as I know) Empire was easier to me.

Or maybe I'm over the learning curve. Maybe because I only lost a few fights in either Republic or Empire. But the rewards are worth it though. I just take the Death Stinger and destroy the computer in VS. Mode:D

[Mr. Obsession]

That the Empire is easier is good to know. It gives me something to lookforward to.

Right now Legacy has become my obsession. I keep on running across all these wild Beserk Furys, I've gotten the data on them, but non of them will drop the stupid UX core. :( It's so close, yet so far away.


On a side note to make JC jealous, I now have my very own Liger Zero with all five CAS's: Schnieder, Jeager, Panzer, Empire, and X. :p

[JohnCrichton]

Tickle me twenty shades of jealous. I'm stuck at the Sandstorm Areana for the final match up, but with no XL Zoid to take into the competition. Now I gotta go out and try to remember where I saw all those Gojulas's before.

To catch me a Zoid, I gotta do CoreSupplier and ZData, right? Razzafrazzin'... I want me a Zero!

[NachoHat]

This is really late but...

If only Atari polished their titles they could really get a respectable name. They have only made two games i own, with plenty of faults themselve. DBZ budaki(what does that stand for) and Ikaruga. They should take their time and polish them. ...I just wanted to point out that Ikaruga was made by Treasure, not Atari. They just published it in the US. And I completely disagree with Ikaruga lacking any polish whatsoever.

And with that, I'm off!

[James Bester]

i was doing great on legacy, but then i got the data/core for the blade liger.I created it but all it did was give my shield liger the blade attack, less defense, less power and less hp. ive been working on getting its stats back up, but i hope that it turns out better than the shield liger. otherwise, i think it was a waste of time and money.

[Punisher]

oops. I forgot Ikaruga was published by treasure. What I meant by polished was the game was too fricken hard to just pick up and play. sure enjoyable, but I never tried to beat it. my bro did, and he put in the codes on the website and became like, in the top 100 in this country.

Back to topic, when you beat both mission modes, there is a THIRD battle mode, which is MUCH harder.:eek: Took me awhile, but I beat it, and now I own the blitz tiger, geno hydra, and zero x. By the way, which zoids tv show were those last three in, if any?

[JohnCrichton]

Anyone got any tips on where I can find an XL Zoid for this last areana match at Sandstorm?

[Mr. Obsession]

Just circle around Sandstorm in the desert until you run into Gordos' or Gojulas' and collect the data and Zoid core from one of them. Unfortunately you can't do both in the same battle. In fact you should have the Gojulas data from one of the town treasure chests already.

You know, if the game would let you fuze your Blox Zoids before going into battle I would have saved so much time before completing the last battle at Sandstorm.

[Wilco911]

That's actually another horrible translation fluke, you need a LL size zoid.

[JohnCrichton]

You know, if the game would let you fuze your Blox Zoids before going into battle I would have saved so much time before completing the last battle at Sandstorm.
Yeah, that thought occured to me, but alas... it encourages one to go out and "try n' catch 'em all!"

Which I'm fine with. It's a fun game and I could use a new Zoid to add to my asrsenal.

[Rini]

My big brother has it and says, it's fun, but it's very long! You can customize and add weapons to your zoids and create new ones, if you have the right parts. It also costs money (In the game) to build them. You also need data to build them. (You know, like in pokemon. You get data for your pokedex. Except it's called Zidata..)

[JohnCrichton]

If BLOX is Fuzors, then is Zan RD?

[Mr. Obsession]

No. O_o


Fuzors is just the first Zoids anime to feature BLOX Zoids.

[JohnCrichton]

Just wondering, because I seem to be spending an awfully long time with these no name scrubs instead of kicking it with the Blitz or the Guardians like I'd rather be doing. It's got me wondering who these guys are that they get so much screen time instead of partnering Zeru and me up with the varsity of Zoids anime-dom.

[Wilco911]

I'm guessing they're from the first Gamecube game(hence why they're listed under the Zoids VS section).

[Punisher]

I have finally bought the ultra z! It is awesome, like putting an organoid in your zoid. Guess who I gave it to.

Zaber Fang SS!-my favorite zoid.
I might buy one for my command Wolf IS too.

[JohnCrichton]

How do you "catch" Zoids?

I'm in some ruins where I found some Gojulas. I have the Commands: CoreSecurity and DataSupplier... but when I cycle through my date it seems that I'm missing a "Base Zoid?" How do I get one of those, so I can get a Gojulas and move on with the game?

[Mr. Obsession]

Lets say you have the Geno Saurer and Geno Breaker data, but you haven't built either. You first have to build a Geno Saurer, which has core requirements. After you've collected those core parts and built the Zoid, if you have the required components for the upgraded unit you can than build the new Zoid from the old one.

You'll no longer have your Geno Saurer, but you'll have a bright shiny new Geno Breaker, which is ten shades of awesome. At least until you can build a Berserk Fury. :D

For the commands that get you data or parts or money, you have to use those on your last turn of the battle. Otherwise you're just wasting time.


Also for the battles, I quickly discovered that the B button is my friend. Being able to skip watching my enemies being pounded by twenty barrages of missiles has saved so much time.

[JohnCrichton]

Oh, ho.... so what base Zoid do I need to build a LL Zoid, like the Gojulas?

[Wilco911]

The Gojulas is a base Zoid, all you need is the data and a "ZG" core.

If I remember right there are some wild Gojulas' in the desert around the arena you can fight to get the stuff you need.

[Mr. Obsession]

Yep, more Gojulas' (Gojuli?) than you can shake a stick at. I was able to get the stuff I need there in about 5 battles.

JC, if you're not already, make sure you kill off the other Zoids except for the one you want to the parts or core from first. Then on the next turn where there's only that Zoid left, and you're certain that you'll be able to finish it off in that turn, then use the command you want. Because at that point in the game you only have the commands that give you parts or data from random Zoids in the battle. It's not 100%, you'll still occasionally end up with stuff from Zoids you didn't want, but it seems to increase the odds of getting the stuff you do want a whole lot more.

[JohnCrichton]

Yup, doing that... I think I got what I need. Could've swore I had it already, but we'll see.

Wish there was a fast way to warp out of caves.. these ruins can be a little annoying sometimes with how often you get jumped.

[Wilco911]

There is. The item stores sell Escape Units(I think that's what they were called) that you can use in a cave to instantly go back to any town you've already been to.

[Mr. Obsession]

They also sell an item that lets you return to the last place you used an escape unit. Very useful for those long dungeons later in the game.

[JohnCrichton]

Man... Brad sucks. His Command Wolf and Shadow Fox have been pretty damn useless.

It's cool hangin' with the Blitz Team tho. Leena's Gun Sniper rocks the house and just having a Zero Schneider is pretty dang cool :D

Now.. to find the next match...

[Mr. Obsession]

Yep. Neither Brad nor Jamie spent much time in my party. There are much better frontline and long-distance attackers in the game.

But Leena's Total Assault makes for a good back row attacker (and her particle weapon bonus makes her a good candidate for a Geno Saurer when you can get one at that stage in the game) and Bit's Liger Zero level bonus' simply makes him a must have for your time on the northern continent.

[Punisher]

I just ordered legacy at EBgames' website, cause the store didn't have it. Man, this game is nowhere. Hard to believe its gonna sell ell if its disappeared a month after its release.

[JohnCrichton]

Wow, man, with all the talk I thought you had it already. :D
Well, I hope the fact that you're having a hard time finding it means that it's selling well.

[Mr. Obsession]

I hope so too. Though the frequency of the random battles is starting to get on my nerves.

masterG3 I've got to ask you something. On Battle Legends when you did the Republic mission mode, when you got the choice did you do "ask for assistance" (A) or "Go it alone" (B)? I've been keeping duel save games, and yes while the Republic missions are hard as hell, I'm finding the B track easier.

Now before you go all "O_o" on me (if you went A), hear me out. From what I can tell the missions are basically the same. Sure you're fighting without a partner, but to compensate the game gives you better equipment and a second Zoid. When I went to Mission 14 the game not only gave me the regular Double Arm Lizard I got on the A track, it gave me the Liger Zero Schneider! With the Schneider the mission's 10x easier. I'm still having trouble beating 14A even with the Imperial teams "help."

[Punisher]

I went for help on the missions, but now I think single is easier. Yes, on the missions you're partner is dumb as a rock, but you can make it through. Is 14a the terra geist base? My partner proved to be NO help on that so I just took a gojulus and fought all the helcats(the chimera dragons are easier).

I'm having a blast playing legacy. I don't know how far I am, but Bit just left me and I have no idea what to do next. My zoids are Gun Tiger, Sabre Lion, Molga, and Gator. surprisingly, my Gator is strongest because I spent a ton of money upgrading his defense and offsense.

Legacy is a cool game. It's definitly one of my favorite for GBA(I only have 5 games). I can tell this is gonna eat up a lot of batteries.

[Mr. Obsession]

I believe you're at the point in Legacy where you want to head north/north-east. The people in the town you were in when Bit left will tell you where the next tournament is. On the way there you'll get a really nice event.


So, how'd you beat the Mad Thunder? Maybe I should have gotten help when I was given the option again. If it wasn't for that Lord Gale then I could easily pull off the same tactic that I used on the Death Stinger and the Seismosaurus, circle around them in a Konig Wolf with the booster on as much as possible and the Pulse Laser Rifle locked on.

[Punisher]

believe it or not, i thought Mad Thunder was easy. You should get a partner. That is one of the few missions the partner helped me. mad thunder is incredibly slow. you got to take advantage of that, and Lord Gale will go down easy with a partner supporting you.

just for kicks, I upgraded all my Molga's defense in Legacy. I ran into a fight against two Gators, and when your strongest attack only does 3 damage, the battle takes awhile. took me half an hour to beat it.

[Mr. Obsession]

Mad Thunder was much easier when I went with the A option, since there was no Lord Gale in that battle. It still wasn't a pushover though. The end of the battle came down to one of those "whoever’s attack hits first wins" moments. I literally had no health left at the end of the battle.

I hope you were right about the Empire being easier. I guess I'll find out in a minute. After I finish that I just have to beat the Vs/Zoid Saga characters tournament and I’ll have unlocked everything.

So far I've discovered two things about this game:
1) Optional boosters will serve you far better than an optional E. shield.

2) On the Republic track, when you get them the Gun Master and the Konig Wolf will win you the game. Sure the Schneider’s nice and all if you go with the "B" dialog option, but it's worthless when you're up against the largest Zoids in the game.

[Punisher]

Empire was easier for me, but by the time I started it I had already experienced the worst the game had to offer. By now you're past the learning curve, I was, and Empire should be easier. Not to say that some missions still aren't hard.

Have you tried taking Mad Thunder for a spin in vs. mode? Total destruction:D

[Mr. Obsession]

Mad Thunder toasted the Deathsaurer in about a minute. It made me glad the AI's too stupid half the time to use some of the Zoid's most powerful weapons. ;)


I just beat the Empire mission mode. In retrospect I honestly don't think it was any less difficult than the Republic. If I had done this one first, I'd probably be tempted to think the Republic was easier. It's certainly a case of mastering the game's learning curve. Though I will say this, several of the Empire mission do require nearly the entire time limit to complete, not something I experienced with the Republic.

Like the Snipe Master and the Konig Wolf for the Republic track, once you get the Lightning Saix it will win you the Empire track.


EDIT: I have now completed the tournament with Republic mission characters (interestingly, the Mad Thunder was more difficult here than it was in the story mode O_o) and for my reward, as far as I can tell, I now have access to every Zoid and pilot in the game. Now if only I could decide if I want to use Zeru in the Liger Zero X, the Blitz Tiger, or the Trinity Liger. :p Or maybe I should just save up some more for that Energy Liger?

[Punisher]

Quick question for anyone that knows the anwser.

In Seas town(Zoids Legacy) Zan has gotten into a fight with a bandit. Whenever I talk to the judge, Zan says he will do it alone. Meanwhile, Albane won't let me leave the town. He says"We need more time". And finally, Pulse has turned blue with some red thrown in. What the heck do I do?!

I only own 1 zoid, if you don't count my partners'. Zaber Fang, had to sell my Stealth Viper, Cannon Tortise, Gun Tiger, and Sabre Lion for it's upgrades. wish I hadn't done that.

[Wilco911]

Make a team with only Zan in it and go back to the arena.

[Mr. Obsession]

Pulse's color changes happen during certain speech events, and you always have the option to see how what you chose will affect Pulse before you finalize it. The color changes alter what skills Pulse will accumulate as it levels up.

Pulse's skills dictate what kind of bonus you get when you use the Organoid option during battle. If I've figured it out correctly black = attack, blue = energy generation, red = defense, and white = health.


As for your problem, like Wilco said just reform a team with Zan being the only active member.

[Punisher]

It worked! Now I have to deal with that troublesome Iron Kong PK fight...