The Legend of Zelda Wind waker sucked!

[Fooly Cooly]

:mad:could you call it an rpg:confused: although it's fun the first time you play it gets boaring fast:sad: and the game takes like two days to beat.[for me at least]. If you are a zelda fan you might like it though:)

[The Falcon]

wow...what a pointless post. personally, it's my favorite game of all time, but whatever floats your boat, i guess

GK

[RAINMAN]

And zelda is not a RPG which show how much he knows.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I guess this guy won't be staying here at TZ very long. :rolleyes:

[Kuja's Light]

Another thing, the only Zelda game of the series that can even be remotely be RPG, was Adventures of Link. I also think WW is my fave Zelda so far, below that is Majora's Mask.

[Behonkiss]

Wow. Thanks for a totally immature and pointless topic, over a year since the game came out.

And for the record, Adventures of Link is the worst Zelda game, unless you count the CD-i games.

[Killtacular]

It's certainly the shortest and easiest Zelda game.

[Behonkiss]

Easiest, yes, but shorter than the original?

[Artimus Gigan]

Try collecting EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING

it extends the life of the game alot, but it's tedious as hell even with the cyclone song

[Daredevil_2003]

I liked WW, more than I liked OoT and a lot more than I liked MM. :shrug:

[Killtacular]

Easiest, yes, but shorter than the original?
One game is constrained within 100kilobytes of graphics and code. The other is over a GIGABYTE of graphics and code. Or at least that's how much the minidiscs are supposed to contain. But I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda only made up HALF that amount, due to its ridiculously small level of dungeons. And no, having long stretches of boat riding doesn't make up for the two dungeons that should exist but don't. I'm sick of the new Zelda games getting lazier and lazier in the design that they'd try to pad out how short the actual gameplay is with these stupid travel bits. I would've preferred a much more populated world with MORE THINGS TO DO than hunt for heart pieces in the most tedious way possible.

[Behonkiss]

One game is constrained within 100kilobytes of graphics and code. The other is over a GIGABYTE of graphics and code. Or at least that's how much the minidiscs are supposed to contain.Then don't call it the shortest Zelda game EVER. Be specific and show us that there should be a lot more given the hardware capacity.

[Kuja's Light]

Yeah, the original Zelda has to be the shortest, it can be beaten in under an hour. No lie.

[Jave]

The original Zelda was perhaps the hardest in the whole series. Some dungeons were hidden in the most insane places.

[Artimus Gigan]

The original Zelda was perhaps the hardest in the whole series. Some dungeons were hidden in the most insane places.If you use a map they're not hidden

[TacoHunter]

If you use a map they're not hidden

They sure as hell are in the second play through.

[Artimus Gigan]

They sure as hell are in the second play through.I have a map for that too...

[dendawg]

Yeah, the original Zelda has to be the shortest, it can be beaten in under an hour. No lie.
By who?? The Flash??:confused: How about some proof?

[TacoHunter]

I have a map for that too...

That's because your a cheater. The fun in games it to find that stuff on your own.

[Artimus Gigan]

That's because your a cheater. The fun in games it to find that stuff on your own.There's nothing wrong with having a free Stratagy guide

especialy because it's free

[Kuja's Light]

Well, to beat LoZ so quickly, there are things you have to skip, like the 3rd sword. As well as some of the items that help but aren't necassary. You also have to be quick as possible in everything.

[Shnay]

There's nothing wrong with having a free Stratagy guide

especialy because it's freeThere are plenty of things wrong with using a strategy guide. I don't care how free it was.

[Artimus Gigan]

There are plenty of things wrong with using a strategy guide. I don't care how free it was.
Now I feel soiled

[Homesick_Alien]

Yeah, the original Zelda has to be the shortest, it can be beaten in under an hour. No lie.


Sorry to be so frank,but thats one of the biggest peice a crap things I've seen someone say on here. Theres no way you can do that in less than an hour. Do like 3 dungeons, tell us how long it takes, then see if you can beat it in an hour.



There are plenty of things wrong with using a strategy guide. I don't care how free it was.

*sigh*
Ok, heres my oppinion on strategy guides. There ONLY ok if youve already beaten the game and you just want to go though it again and do whatever other things you missed. If you havent beaten it then you shouldnt use one.

[Chime]

agree. and Wind Waker is awesometabulous.

[Opaque]

Strategy guides are not cheating.

A cheat does something for you, as in you enter a code and you have something you didn't before: Items, money, health, invincibility or levels. Whatever.

A guide tells you how to do something, but you still have to do it yourself. It's not cheating, it's help.

Stop trying to be 1337 by saying guides are cheating.

[FinalDragoon]

Sorry to be so frank,but thats one of the biggest peice a crap things I've seen someone say on here. Theres no way you can do that in less than an hour. Do like 3 dungeons, tell us how long it takes, then see if you can beat it in an hour.

No, you're wrong. There is a speed run video out there showing a guy beating the original Zelda in 32 minutes. Google is your friend on this one.

[Artimus Gigan]

Ok, heres my oppinion on strategy guides. There ONLY ok if youve already beaten the game and you just want to go though it again and do whatever other things you missed. If you havent beaten it then you shouldnt use one.But what if you are unaware of the things you might have missed, not everything is pointed out in plain view. For example Escape from Monkey island, you have to make a trail to enter the deep woods to track Ozzie Mandrill. The way you go about it is to play the music box so the blind guy can't hear as you take the protetic limb from his shop, then use the limb to capture termites, then implant the termites into Ozzie's cane so you can follow him as the termites leave tiny wood shavings wherever he walks...

Who would have thought of doing that inititaly?



You could have used all sorts of other tools that you had like Ode Le Chuck so you could smell him, or the prostetic intestines to tie to a tree so you could find your way back, or even using the prostetic foot to make foot prints to find your way back.

IMO they are sorta like Travel guides, they point out what to do and what to experiance...

[Homesick_Alien]

No, you're wrong. There is a speed run video out there showing a guy beating the original Zelda in 32 minutes. Google is your friend on this one.Anyone who plays and beats that game in 32 mins dosent deserve to play it.



But what if you are unaware of the things you might have missed, not everything is pointed out in plain view. For example Escape from Monkey island, you have to make a trail to enter the deep woods to track Ozzie Mandrill. The way you go about it is to play the music box so the blind guy can't hear as you take the protetic limb from his shop, then use the limb to capture termites, then implant the termites into Ozzie's cane so you can follow him as the termites leave tiny wood shavings wherever he walks...

Who would have thought of doing that inititaly?



You could have used all sorts of other tools that you had like Ode Le Chuck so you could smell him, or the prostetic intestines to tie to a tree so you could find your way back, or even using the prostetic foot to make foot prints to find your way back.

IMO they are sorta like Travel guides, they point out what to do and what to experiance...

Well of course theres going to be exceptions, but you should at least try everthing you can think of before you get up and go look at a guide. Usually what i do, is if im stuck, i'll just stop playing for a while then later in the day i'll go back and see whats going on again, and then see what i could do with it. Thats always seemed to work for me, maybe try doing that the next time you get stuck(if you dont already). But if its something like that, that you wouldnt understand enless you did that, then its acceptable, cause you just have to sometimes. But DO NOT depend on them, thats my point.

[Opaque]

Anyone who plays and beats that game in 32 mins dosent deserve to play it.That is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Congradulations on setting a new standard of greatness.

[Kuja's Light]

Dude, I saw it in a speed run guide, it'a all factual. Of coruse another part is skipping all of the heart containers on the overworld map. basicially it takles being an expert and all that I bet, or at least enough skill.

[Shnay]

Strategy guides aren't cheating, but they do take away much of the reward of finding something, or solving something, for yourself.

[guinaevere]

:mad:could you call it an rpg:confused: Who called it an rpg? No one.

It, like all the Zelda games I can think of, have always been of the Adventure genre.

[Artimus Gigan]

Strategy guides aren't cheating, but they do take away much of the reward of finding something, or solving something, for yourself.I didn't use a guide for SuikodenIII to find all the stars of destiny...


however it would have been nice to find out before hand that if any of them(aside from Wyatt and that girl) died I wouldn't get the extra ending...which one of them did...

I mean all I had to do was just talk to everyone to get them all...


I usualy collect everything that is worth collecting, because some of the games don't allow you to retrace your steps...I made the mistake in Wind Waker with the statues, some were only available thru certain events or avauilable until you tackled another dungeon...so I took the other 130 and still had an incomplete collection...so if they provide fare warning on when somthing will not be avilable it's served it's use

However I usualy never use the battle stratagies they give in the guides except once in a blue moon an a hard hard boss as a last resort, and usualy they arn't all that efficant

[RAINMAN]

Wow. Thanks for a totally immature and pointless topic, over a year since the game came out.

And for the record, Adventures of Link is the worst Zelda game, unless you count the CD-i games.



AOL is not the worst game in the zelda series.:mad: The CD-I games is another story.

[Homesick_Alien]

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Congradulations on setting a new standard of greatness.WOW congradulations for being the only psychic on toonzone, glad you know exactly what someone means when they say something instead of asking like any other normal person would have done. But then again what do i know...you do have a lyric from thursday as your quote :rolleyes: go mainstream! *sigh*


Now stop, think about it for a min.
IMO, playing a game and beating it in like 30 mins or whatever is pointless, it cant be fun...theres no enjoyment really, well at least for me anyways.

Now more discussion on this, no point in killing the thread.

The Adventures of Link is for sure the worst...and personaly i dont count the CD-i as a game really...its not even good enough to be called a bad game.

[Artimus Gigan]

Bah I got Zelda and AoL for 10 bucks w/o doing any of the pre-requisets
thank you clearance at TRU

all though it was supposed to be free...if you bought a Gamecube


so they did make 10 bucks in total w/o any loss

though is shows that no one pays any attention to the NOT FOR RESALE logo on the bottom...

[Bird Boy]

Wow. A pointless thread that went on for two pages, with almost everyone calling each other names.

Nice guys. Very nice.

-BB