Aqua Teen Hunger Force:The Most Overrated Cartoon EVER!!

[Spongebrain2.0]

Don't get me wrong, I think ATHF is a VERY funny and LOL show, it just isn't as great as the people on this board praise it to be. It is a good show, but it is not something that I'm gonna regret missing an episode of. There's some great moments but overall the show isn't anywhere near the greatness of Family Guy or Futurama or South Park. ATHF is a GOOD show, not a landmark in TV history. I know I'm gonna get flamed for this (Runs away and hides)

[g_UnIt_GaNsTa]

Actually, I'd have to say Spongebob Squarepants is the most overrated cartoon ever. And it'll probably stay that way.

[Lord Dalek]

No sir, you are cruely mistakened. The most overated cartoon is *cough*INVADER ZIM*cough*.

[Spongebrain2.0]

No sir, you are cruely mistakened. The most overated cartoon is *cough*INVADER ZIM*cough*.
Good point, but I still think ATHF is overrated, but NOT the most overrated show, the most overrated sitcom of all time is...FRIENDS (:eek: Shudder:eek: )

[Delthayre]

I'm going to go with my standard, glib answer to this kind of thread and say, "the term overrated is overrated."

I really don't like the word. Whenever I see it used, it sends off some sort of signal in my mind suggesting disengenuousness on the part of the person using it. It doesn't make any real statement regarding the quality of a show, it's just a veiled way of indicating that you don't agree with the opinion of a group of people who are just numerous enough to fall prey to accusations of being sheep if you get backed into a corner.

Maybe that's not what you're thinking at all, but that seems to be the most common meaning and implication of the word.

And I hardly think Aquateen Hunger Force is praised beyond it's worth. Most people are reasonable enough to admit when it dips into occasional mediocrity and then the rest of just obsessive nitwits. Well, I think so. Which is the point, I guess.

In any case, this is hardly worth a thread. You'd better thank your lucky stars that I'll never be a moderator. Most people should probably do that, actually.

My kingdom for distinct plural and singular forms of the second person pronoun!

[Artimus Gigan]

I really don't think that ATHF is overrated, I don't even think Adult Swim is mover rated...the only thing that is over rated is being in a nitche crowd, yeah it's allright, but mainstream always has the better parties...

be part of the machine, switch to mainstream

but it's worlds better than anythingn on nick or spike tv

[Jave]

Well, I don't think there's such thing as an overrated showpowerpuffgirlswhile there are a lot of cartoons that have turned really badrugratsafter being good at first. Some peoplespongebrainshould take this more calmly and try to be more funny and sarcasticmattwilsonlike other members on this board.

[Matthew Williams]

you know what, I'm going to take this and spin this into a completely different discussion because I need to go and get this out. Thank you for providing me the opportunity to say this.

The most overrated cartoon of all time, I feel, is Ren and Stimpy.

Not Adult Party Cartoon, that was terrible, and not the Games episodes. I mean John K's original season or so.

Before you crucify me, let me just say that if you do a humorous cartoon, you either have a funny plot and good character development (Futurama, Simpsons before Season 7 or so)... or you chuck everything out the window and put in bizarre stuff and funny jokes at a rapid-fire pace. (Which is what ATHF, at its best, does.) Ren and Stimpy consisted of 2 or 3 segments per show, and each were slow-ass segments in which a plot unfurls very very very slowly. Jokes are dragged out to a point in which they are no longer funny, and bizarre "visual jokes" that aren't really that funny fill up the rest of the time. (That "push the button" joke at the end of "Space Madness" was funny, but it typified the "HEY! THIS IS A JOKE! IT FUNNY!" mentality of the show's creators.)

I'd even say the Games episodes are better than the Spumco eps. They still had problems, I will admit. But they at least seemed to have livelier pacing. The episode where Ren is dying and shopping for a coffin - things actually seemed to HAPPEN. There was a PLOT. and although we could have been spared some of the nastier imagery, it was still better than, say, "Space Madness" or "Nurse Stimpy" in which they just dragged and dragged and dragged.

I needed to go out and say that. ;)

[Youko Recca]

Overated is overated....

[Spongebrain2.0]

How can you be sarcastic in saying a show's overrated without pissing people off, I tried to say this post nicely and i LIKE ATHF it is just not anything spectacular.

[the Amanda]

I'm not sure there's anything particularly constructive in saying a show is overrated. People praise what they like, they talk about what they like, if we go overboard it's because we're a bunch of nerds at heart. Ultimately "overrated" hinges on how well you like a show. I think ATHF is the best thing on Adult Swim, and probably the vast majority of people would disagree. I don't think that's "overrating" ATHF, that's just my personal opinion.


To be non-constructive myself, I don't like the Simpsons. Therefore that easily qualifies for my pick for most overrated cartoon.

[Tapout]

I think ATHF is the best thing on Adult Swim, and probably the vast majority of people would disagree. Outside of the casual, 'Futurama and FG only' crowd and the hardcore otaku, I think most people would agree that ATHF is the best AS has to offer. But then again, maybe those other guys are the vast majority.

As far as I'm concerned nothing is over- or underrated. It's either good or it's not. Some cartoons are better than most others and some stink more than others, but "underrated" and "overrated" are more subjective than even "good" and "bad" are.

[The Landstander]

Eh, I would disagree. It has some more annoying fans, but the same goes for any show. It's a very funny show and gets credit for being that.

If you ask me it's the third best show AS has to offer.

...and yeah, I'll go with Williams and place R&S as the most overrated.

[DSRGirl]

Outside of the casual, 'Futurama and FG only' crowd and the hardcore otaku, I think most people would agree that ATHF is the best AS has to offer. But then again, maybe those other guys are the vast majority.
The Casucal "Futurama and FG only" crowd is the majority of the Adult Viewers (then again, from what I heard, a lot of them do watch Aqua Teen, since ATHF's weekday ratings have been very good). I'm not sur about the hardcore otaku though. They probably make up the biggest population on the internet though (no offense).

Aqua Teen really isn't overrated at all. It has it's fans, it has it's lovers, it's haters. Most people don't go overboard and say "ATHF IS THE BEST CARTOON EVER! IT CHANGED THE GENRE, BLAH BLAH BLAH!" Although I will say that out of all the shows on Adult Swim, it's the one I find most consistley enjoyable, even when it's a repeat. There isn't an episode I don't at least like, which I can't say for many other shows.

[RD!]

Arrrrrrrrrh. You watch Ren and Stimpy and Spongebob, why did you make this thread. ATHF is well liked yes, but what seperates it from being overrated is that is deserves it's fanbase. Sealab would be a better example of something overrated, since it somehow still has fans.

But I echo Williams' opinions on R&S.

[Space Kitty]

Matt, can we crucify you now? :evil:

[Evil & Lovin It]

Actually, I'd have to say Spongebob Squarepants is the most overrated cartoon ever. And it'll probably stay that way.I agree, but that might be because I HATE Spongebob. As for ATHF I know plenty of people who like it and plenty who don't , so I don't think it's overrated. But, that might just be because I like it...See what I'm getting at?

[Don_East]

No sir, you are cruely mistakened. The most overated cartoon is *cough*INVADER ZIM*cough*.
I second that to the tenth power.

[brak attack]

i think it is to hyped home movies should be as popular as athf and athf should be as popular as home movies.i like home movies a lot

[Lord Dalek]

you know what, I'm going to take this and spin this into a completely different discussion because I need to go and get this out. Thank you for providing me the opportunity to say this.

The most overrated cartoon of all time, I feel, is Ren and Stimpy.

Not Adult Party Cartoon, that was terrible, and not the Games episodes. I mean John K's original season or so.

Before you crucify me, let me just say that if you do a humorous cartoon, you either have a funny plot and good character development (Futurama, Simpsons before Season 7 or so)... or you chuck everything out the window and put in bizarre stuff and funny jokes at a rapid-fire pace. (Which is what ATHF, at its best, does.) Ren and Stimpy consisted of 2 or 3 segments per show, and each were slow-ass segments in which a plot unfurls very very very slowly. Jokes are dragged out to a point in which they are no longer funny, and bizarre "visual jokes" that aren't really that funny fill up the rest of the time. (That "push the button" joke at the end of "Space Madness" was funny, but it typified the "HEY! THIS IS A JOKE! IT FUNNY!" mentality of the show's creators.)

I'd even say the Games episodes are better than the Spumco eps. They still had problems, I will admit. But they at least seemed to have livelier pacing. The episode where Ren is dying and shopping for a coffin - things actually seemed to HAPPEN. There was a PLOT. and although we could have been spared some of the nastier imagery, it was still better than, say, "Space Madness" or "Nurse Stimpy" in which they just dragged and dragged and dragged.

I needed to go out and say that. ;) I want to disagree, but I can't form a decent argument based on nostalgia.

[Pimmelmann]

It's a bunch of joke-joke-jokes and gross-outs; the show never explains anything or tries for any sort of consistency because it doesn't expect to be taken seriously. So I must agree: if there is anyone out there who really holds ATHF in any especially high regard, they are being a bit silly. The typical netgoer goes on to message boards and the like in order to proclaim whatever he enjoyed in the last couple of days to be BRILLIANT and GENIUS, so there may very well be someone, somewhere, typing such silly statements about ATHF. If so, shame on them. I enjoy the show too, but it's bubblegum, and there are no bubblegum chefs.

[Artimus Gigan]

Ya know what, in the inital message he says that he knows he is going to be flamed for his opinion. That means he purposely wanted to cause a stir among the masses. Meaning he knows what he was doing when he was initaly typing it and was in a normal state of mind...

[Captain Harlock]

Overrated? No.

Misunderstood? Yes.

ATHF is a good show for what it is. Random humor that doesn't need to follow any guidelines. For people to try and adapt the show to other animated comedies that try to follow a set structure is ludicrous. Introduced plotlines don't have to be solved and there doesn't have to be an explanation for things that happen.

[wrenchien]

Matt, can we crucify you now? :evil:


no, leave matt alone. he's a good guy.

[saladdays]

This thread is overrated.

[saladdays]

Overrated? No.

Misunderstood? Yes.

ATHF is a good show for what it is. Random humor that doesn't need to follow any guidelines. For people to try and adapt the show to other animated comedies that try to follow a set structure is ludicrous. Introduced plotlines don't have to be solved and there doesn't have to be an explanation for things that happen.Now we just need to tell this to those people who seem to always post negative things EVERY WEEK on the Sealab talkback threads.

[RD!]

Now we just need to tell this to those people who seem to always post negative things EVERY WEEK on the Sealab talkback threads.
The key difference in both chaotic shows is that ATHF manages to be funny while Sealab tries too hard and fails as expected by the viewer and creators.

[saladdays]

The key difference in both chaotic shows is that ATHF manages to be funny while Sealab tries too hard and fails as expected by the viewer and creators.
I was commenting how people may think that ATHF was overrated because of random, sometimes incoherent, humor. The same exists on Sealab, no matter if you think it's funny or not.

[ZorBrak]

I'd say that if anything is over rated...it certainly isn't on CN.

[jeffrey 228]

I'd say that if anything is over rated...it certainly isn't on CN.
I sure know that for a fact there, but what is missing is that they need to put Space Ghost Coast to Cast in replacement of ATHF if they do another time slot change, that is what I want Adult Swim to do and all.

[bassist]

How can you know that for a fact? Wouldn't it, by definition of it being an opinion, not be fact?

[saladdays]

How can you know that for a fact? Wouldn't it, by definition of it being an opinion, not be fact?
What's the point of dissecting a figure of speech in this thread?

[bassist]

Normally, I'd say you're right and be done, but this is an election year, so short of bringing politics into the argument, the number of people passing opinion off as fact recently has really been bothering me. I really felt as though it was something I needed to do. For kids, you know?

[Mackaybear]

Normally, I'd say you're right and be done, but this is an election year, so short of bringing politics into the argument, the number of people passing opinion off as fact recently has really been bothering me. I really felt as though it was something I needed to do. For kids, you know?You know that's an exceptionally good point there. Calling something overrated or underrated is purely a matter of opinion. As opposed to saying you don't like something and saying why you don't.

I don't like ATHF so I don't watch it. And I don't post to talkbacks about how much I don't like this or that on it. I would if I could watch it and come up with constructive criticism to make it better. Or at least logical points about why I don't like it. But it like Spongebob and Totally Spies are just not enjoyable to me and basically leave me flat.

If someone doesn't like something fine. If you can come up with an idea or two to make it better than post it. But it really does no good to attack anyone's taste in cartoons. I will listen to constructive criticisms of shows I like but I don't like attacks on things I like couched as fact. When they're primarily opinion.

I kind of think of what one of my college professors told me. "Be careful what you say about any particular piece of music." "There's a really good chance that the music you just trashed is the favorite of the guy you just trashed it in front of"

I kind of wish people would watch what they like, and ignore what they don't. And stop attacking the tastes of others. It would make the Internet somewhat duller but the world much happier.:)

[Fone Bone]

you know what, I'm going to take this and spin this into a completely different discussion because I need to go and get this out. Thank you for providing me the opportunity to say this.

The most overrated cartoon of all time, I feel, is Ren and Stimpy.

Not Adult Party Cartoon, that was terrible, and not the Games episodes. I mean John K's original season or so.

Before you crucify me, let me just say that if you do a humorous cartoon, you either have a funny plot and good character development (Futurama, Simpsons before Season 7 or so)... or you chuck everything out the window and put in bizarre stuff and funny jokes at a rapid-fire pace. (Which is what ATHF, at its best, does.) Ren and Stimpy consisted of 2 or 3 segments per show, and each were slow-ass segments in which a plot unfurls very very very slowly. Jokes are dragged out to a point in which they are no longer funny, and bizarre "visual jokes" that aren't really that funny fill up the rest of the time. (That "push the button" joke at the end of "Space Madness" was funny, but it typified the "HEY! THIS IS A JOKE! IT FUNNY!" mentality of the show's creators.)

I'd even say the Games episodes are better than the Spumco eps. They still had problems, I will admit. But they at least seemed to have livelier pacing. The episode where Ren is dying and shopping for a coffin - things actually seemed to HAPPEN. There was a PLOT. and although we could have been spared some of the nastier imagery, it was still better than, say, "Space Madness" or "Nurse Stimpy" in which they just dragged and dragged and dragged.

I needed to go out and say that. ;)
Okay, this post REALLY bothered me, probably because deep down I know it's true. True Ren and Stimpy was refreshing for it's time, but when better and better cartoons keep coming along it seems almost disingenuous to put cartoons that were merely placeholders on pedestals. That is the problem I have with most eighties animation (which I'm currently being taken to task for on the DVD boards). I remember watching Transformers and He-Man (which I loved at the time) when I was a kid only to see kids in the nineties grow up with cartoons like Batman, Gargoyles, and The Simpsons. It seemed almost unfair that I was born a generation too early. I would have LOVED to have grown up with those cartoons rather than the cartoons I now can no longer stomach.

[PowerZord]

I don't think ATHF is overrated. the only two AS shows that I would call Overrated are FG and HM

[saladdays]

Okay, this post REALLY bothered me, probably because deep down I know it's true. True Ren and Stimpy was refreshing for it's time, but when better and better cartoons keep coming along it seems almost disingenuous to put cartoons that were merely placeholders on pedestals. That is the problem I have with most eighties animation (which I'm currently being taken to task for on the DVD boards). I remember watching Transformers and He-Man (which I loved at the time) when I was a kid only to see kids in the nineties grow up with cartoons like Batman, Gargoyles, and The Simpsons. It seemed almost unfair that I was born a generation too early. I would have LOVED to have grown up with those cartoons rather than the cartoons I now can no longer stomach.
First of all, how old are you? I grew up with the 80s cartoons, but I believe Batman still came out earlier enough that I would say that I was still "young" at the time.

Secondly, I believe people before our generation probably have said similar things about 80s cartoons.

[PowerZord]

I grew up watchin He-man, Transformers, Gargoyles, Simpsons, Batman and I still can stomach them

[bassist]

What really shocked me was going back and watching G.I. Joe. I used to live to come home and watch that every afternoon. And now, I see it again, and it's crap. How did I never realize it was crap? Am I that dense?

Every generation of cartoons there's one or two that has staying power: Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, Rocky & Bullwinkle. In the 80s, the closest show to something with staying power seems to be the Smurfs to me, and that's just sad.