Adult Swim Action predictions for August of 2004 - August of 2005

[Sketch]

I have been summoned (sp?) by a member of the board. Apparently it's been a while since my last ASA prediction thread and since Miguzi and Toonami got one this week it's only fair for ASA to get one as well.

I'm not even gonna try to predict the comedy schedule... that's just mad.

A few things are pending here... when some things are finished dubbing, if Gundam will ever air again on Adult Swim (and it might not), if they will take breaks in the Saturday premieres, and if ASA weekdays will always have 2 hours and not 1 1/2 (which we really can't say but ATHF was a successful experiment).

So here goes...

August

Weekdays:
12:00 - Zeta Gundam (premieres)
12:30 - Case Closed
01:00 - Inuyasha
01:30 - Trigun

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Wolf's Rain (premieres)
12:00 - Witch Hunter Robin
12:30 - The Big O
01:00 - Kikaider
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

September

Weekdays:
12:00 - Zeta Gundam (premieres)
12:30 - Case Closed (premieres)
01:00 - Inuyasha
01:30 - Trigun

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Wolf's Rain (premieres)
12:00 - Witch Hunter Robin
12:30 - The Big O
01:00 - Kikaider
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

Other:
Inuyasha movie premieres on a Saturday at Midnight

October

Weekdays:
12:00 - Wolf's Rain
12:30 - Zeta Gundam
01:00 - Case Closed
01:30 - Witch Hunter Robin

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - The Big O
01:00 - Kikaider
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

November

Weekdays:
12:00 - Wolf's Rain
12:30 - Zeta Gundam
01:00 - Case Closed
01:30 - Witch Hunter Robin

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - FLCL
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

December

Weekdays:
12:00 - Inuyasha
12:30 - Wolf's Rain
01:00 - Zeta Gundam
01:30 - The Big O

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - FLCL
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

January

Weekdays:
12:00 - Inuyasha
12:30 - Wolf's Rain
01:00 - Zeta Gundam
01:30 - The Big O

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - Wolf's Rain
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

February

Weekdays:
12:00 - Inuyasha
12:30 - Case Closed
01:00 - Zeta Gundam
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - Wolf's Rain
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - The Big O

March

Weekdays:
12:00 - Case Closed (premieres)
12:30 - Inuyasha
01:00 - Zeta Gundam
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - The Big O

April

Weekdays:
12:00 - Case Closed (premieres)
12:30 - Inuyasha
01:00 - Wolf's Rain
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

Saturdays:
11:00 - Inuyasha (premieres)
11:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - The Big O

May

Weekdays:
12:00 - Case Closed (premieres)
12:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist
01:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex
01:30 - Wolf's Rain

Saturdays:
11:00 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
11:30 - Samurai Champloo (premieres)
12:00 - Gunslinger Girl (premieres)
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

June

Weekdays:
12:00 - Case Closed
12:30 - Fullmetal Alchemist
01:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex
01:30 - Wolf's Rain

Saturdays:
11:00 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
11:30 - Samurai Champloo (premieres)
12:00 - Gunslinger Girl (premieres)
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

July

Weekdays:
12:00 - Case Closed
12:30 - Inuyasha
01:00 - Fullmetal Alchemist
01:30 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex

Saturdays:
11:00 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
11:30 - Samurai Champloo (premieres)
12:00 - Gunslinger Girl (premieres)
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - Trigun
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

August

Weekdays:
12:00 - Saiyuki Reload (premieres)
12:30 - Inuyasha
01:00 - Case Closed
01:30 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex

Saturdays:
11:00 - Fullmetal Alchemist (premieres)
11:30 - Samurai Champloo (premieres)
12:00 - Gun Grave (premieres)
12:30 - Gunslinger Girl
01:00 - Wolf's Rain
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

Future

52 new Inuyasha's start in October when FMA finishes
26-52 new episodes of Conan in Fall of 2005
ZZ Gundam eventually

Notice the 2 month gap of no Inuyasha anywhere on the schedule as soon as the premieres are over? Boy that will make 'em squirm. I'm so evil. :anime:

[Karl Olson]

Comments on the Schedule:

-Ghost in the Shell, objectable content aside, won't premiere that late in the block. I'd expect a lead slot, because it's a superb show attached to known property.

-Samurai Champloo, unless fast-tracked by Geneon, probably won't be ready until atleast June-July 2005. Fast tracked, it could be ready by March.

-Zeta Gundam, given the release style Bandai is going gear it around, will likely not be on TV. If it is, I wouldn't expect it to grab a 12am slot unless ATHF begins to falter seriously in that slot (less than 400K viewers.)

-Gunslinger Girl, if Funimation can nail the dub (it's going to be as hard as Kodocha to nail, maybe even harder because it needs a lot of subtle, and it needs 6 ot 7 VAs who can convincingly pull of a depressed 10-year-old voice,) and if Sean and Jason are interested in such a dark, atmospheric, violent property, will probably be ready earlier than you list unless Funi holds off to make sure the game is out at the same time as it's broadcast. The show is short though, so it should dub fairly quickly if the VAs are good. Also, at 13 episodes, their isn't enough show for 4 full months of premieres. I'd expect to be a series run in an experimental capasity if possible (see the long term curve balls.)

-Conan will heavily hinge on the ratings it gets as time goes on. If it can maintain 400K+ viewership, CN/WS'll renew it, but whether the mystery of the evening stuff will continue to sell remains to be seen. Also, the DVDs will probably have to sell decently for Funimation to keep up with the title as well.

-Saiyuki Reload, unless CN is trying to bag even more in the way of the teenage fangirl demo, probably won't show up.

-Gungrave will show up, but a lot of people aren't going to feel it, even the Trigun fans. Expect it's ratings to be weak at best.

-If CN picks up Reload and Gungrave from Geneon, they'll probably get Tsukihime too, and it'll be cycled in Winter 2004 in 12 or 12:30 Saturday slot.

-FMA won't get a weekday repeat cycle unless it does atleast 500k+ on the weekends, or Bebop starts faltering seriously.

-Same goes for Wolf's Rain. It's got start getting more people watching, or else it'll be cycled off after one rerun on weekends.

-InuYasha will always be on the schedule in some capacity unless it falters in the ratings.

-Long term possible curve balls: CN might come out of nowhere to get Paranoia Agent due to name recognition (...from the director of Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers.) ADV might finally sell something to the network. GXP and Kiddy Grade might get tossed on out of nowhere as summer series (this year or next) a la Blue Gender and FLCL. If the repeat 2-5 becomes properly scheduled time (if you don't have to make up text cards, it could happen,) some forgotten series like Blue Gender and Reign might show up at 2am or later before their licences run out. That area might also be used for some experimentation if CN/WS can get distributors to lend some offbeat series to them for cheap. Haibane Renmei, Arjuna, NieA_7, KoiKaze, Someday's Dreamers, Paranoia Agent, Texhnolyze, The Legend of Black Heaven, Gravitation, Gunslinger Girl, Cromartie High School and various other strange, weird series would be what could be played with here if CN can get the companies to take free exposure as payment. CN could use with an anime equivilent to the comedy lab, but it's something that won't happen in the current state of things, but could happen in another few years.

[Sketch]

Thank you for replying. I was begining to wonder if anyone would.

You're right about Zeta. So it's more likely we'll get GXP and Kiddy Grade instead come August.

Inuyasha comes back at Midnight so I can only assume they will still usually use Midnight for action but it all depends... it wont be much longer before Sea Lab will be worthy of a weeknight slot (probably not a double dose though) and then Birdman.

Why wouldn't GitS be on at Midnight? They premiere fresh action on Midnights on weekdays why not Saturday as well? Why is Midnight looked upon as a bad slot? It's worked in the past. But I understand how they'd want to air it earlier.

I think Geneon will fast-track Samurai Champloo but it'll be around August next year at the latest.

You don't think they'll take Inuyasha off ever? I suppose it is the highest rated action show but it'll probably get a break at some point.

I think a weekday run would really improve Wolf's Rain ratings. But we'll see come Fall and don't doubt for a second that FMA wont get reruns on weekdays by the half way point but they'd only be temporary.

[livingfruitvirus]

GXP and Kiddy Grade might get tossed on out of nowhere as summer series (this year or next) a la Blue Gender and FLCL.GXP will never air. CN has no more interest in Tenchi.


oh they loved tenchi alright. 4 years ago. if they had renewed interest they wouldn't have let the rights to all the series and movies escape to International Channel.
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[Sketch]

They don't like Tenchi? Why's that? I thought it did really well. It stuck around for a long time at least and I was sure Sean and Jason loved it.

Just Kiddy Grade would suffice I suppose... but would it air on Saturdays (give Inuyasha a break from the top spot perhaps) or on weekdays (alla The Big O, REIGN, and Kikaider)? I'd like it on weekdays actually because weekdays will be needing something fresh.

[Mysteryinfoman]

GXP will never air. CN has no more interest in Tenchi.Maybe they could renew interest, did you talk to a WS guy or something?

[Killtacular]

12:00 - Zeta Gundam (premieres)
I don't see why people are holding out hope for Zeta to air on CN. CN already had a deal for it once. Then it was terminated. CN isn't going to turn around and pick it back up after Toyfair 2002. CN simply doesn't have the interest and would only turn to it if they were desperate.

Other:
Inuyasha movie premieres on a Saturday at Midnight
Don't expect this for a little while longer.

12:00 - Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex (premieres)
What is it with you? GITS will be editted to the same standards no matter what timeslot it airs in. You sound like the otaku on other forums when you're like "no way are they gonna let this in!!!". Open your mind already.

Late October is more like:

11:00 - Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
11:30 - Full Metal Alchemist
12:00 - Inuyasha
12:30 - Witch Hunter Robin
01:00 - The Big O
01:30 - Cowboy Bebop

11:30 - Samurai Champloo (premieres)
That's considerably optomistic, but it's not gonna happen. Pioneer's gonna slap Champloo on MTV2 like they did with Heat Guy.

12:00 - Gunslinger Girl (premieres)
This show has nothing to offer adults. It's just a lollicon show with gunplay. It sucks. It's hollow. Moreso than Noir. So I hope we don't see it.

12:00 - Saiyuki Reload (premieres)
I hope to God that we never see a single ****** Saiyuki series on TV. EVER.

12:00 - Gun Grave (premieres)
Man, this schedule you're predicting is so depressing. If it actually came true, I'd probably leave these forums, because AS would suck so much that it would drive me to do something that'd probably get me banned.

52 new Inuyasha's start in October when FMA finishes
Is the show even going to make it to 156? Isn't it ending in Japan in a couple of months?

[Lord Dalek]

I'm gonna rule out Kiddy Grade, just because if it was going to air on Cartoon Network it would've done so already.

Prediction for next year:

-If my theory is correct, Viz will sell Naruto as a companion show for Inuyasha.

-GITS:STAC 2nd Gig will be dubbed and aired.

-ADV could possibly sell Saiyuki, Rahxephon, Super Milk Chan, and Gasaraki

-Yukikaze as a miniseries perhalps?

-Samurai Champloo is a lock.

-Williams Street will try to pass on GunGrave but the suits will shove it down their throats.

-Gunslinger Girl is pretty much a lock.

-Should Geneon announce by the end of the year, Tetsujin 28.

[Lord Dalek]

I hope to God that we never see a single ****** Saiyuki series on TV. EVER.
What do you call Dragonball then?

[Youko Recca]

OK!...Paranoia Agent needs to be on. Samurai Champloo has to come to Adult Swim, Pioneer would be awkward to gve it to MTV2. If ADV is trully giving out presents then I don't see what would stop Get Backers..though someone probally sees that as "******".

[Killtacular]

What do you call Dragonball then?
I call it Dragonball. Because it's called Dragonball. And not Saiyuki.

And LFV wanted me to mention that my mention of Champloo on MTV was just prediction. However, there is reasonable logic there. The show is musically-themed. American DJ beats. Rap intro. The show is very Kill Bill-esque. All things MTV seems to love.

[livingfruitvirus]

-Williams Street will try to pass on GunGrave but the suits will shove it down their throats.In Adult Swim's case, Williams Street IS the suits.

-ADV could possibly sell Saiyuki, Rahxephon, Super Milk Chan, and Gasaraki
RahXephon and Gasaraki? I don't think so. Even if CN came to THEM wanting them, I'll bet ADV would respond with "What? No! These shows are great, and we're showing them on our Anime Network! It's going to rise to great heights and put all you guys out of jobs!"

[Lord Dalek]

I call it Dragonball. Because it's called Dragonball. And not Saiyuki.They're all based on the same book Wilson. Dragonball is Xiyouji with... dragonballs, Saiyuki is Xiyouji with bishonen. Alakazam the Great is Xiyouji with Frankie Avalon. Etc.

[Killtacular]

They're all based on the same book Wilson.
Just like Atlantis and Nadia are based on the same book but that doesn't make both of them great.

[DSRGirl]

Originally Posted By Matt WilsonIs the show even going to make it to 156? Isn't it ending in Japan in a couple of months?Actually, Inuyasha's going up to at least episode 157 by Late June. So when it ends, it will probably be past 160 (from the episode titles, I'm guessing 162 or 163 or something around there).

[Sheamon]

In terms of predictions, I think its extremely likely we'll see Cowboy Bebop the Movie on the air before the end of the year. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Gundam F91 played too, although like with CCA they might wait until its been out a while beforehand. Regarding Zeta Gundam, I wouldn't be surprised to see it on the air considering every animated Gundam series ever released here has aired on the channel. Then again, I'm one who will be preording the boxset the second its available, so I could really care less if they air it on TV.

Regarding what I personally want to see on Adult Swim Action... ...No. We've had this discussion 80 billion times.

[Kaiser0120]

Gungrave sucks. I really doubt that WS would grab a crappy Anime, even if it does have alot of cool gunfighting and such. It's not very good. It's atleast worse than Witch Hunter Robin.

Saiyuki is even worse than Gungrave. I rented the first volume and wanted to puke. Not to mention that the DUB IS ****ING HORRIBLE. I don't know about Reloaded though. It'll be done by Pioneer (Screw "Geneon") but still... It'll be worse of a teenage fangirl than even Inu Yasha ever was or could be. AS atleast tries to aim for good shows. This show radiates crapiness worse than a portapotty 5 hours after the end of a chilly cookoff in the middle of a southwestern County Fair.

Gunslinger Girl... Yeah. Stupid. Lollicon. Senseless violence. See Matt Wilson's post.

Samurai Champloo... I've seen the first two episodes. MTV would dig this series. Quite unfortunate because I think it'd do rather nicely on AS. Then again, it's a tad... too violent. Not to mention it's got character designs that are only twice as good looking as Reign's. That isn't saying much. It's pretty when the action starts, yeah. But think Digimon: The Movie's art and animation. The art looked pretty... yuck, but the animation was wonderful, and everything looked goodwhen the action started. I think AS will try to snatch it, but MTV is going to give them a hell of a hard time.

Inuyasha's movies will most probably start airing on Saturdays soon. WS would so cash in on that.

As for everything else... *Shrugs.*

[Lord Dalek]

UPDATE!

Summer 2005- Tenjou Tenge to be added.

[Kaiser0120]

UPDATE!

Summer 2005- Tenjou Tenge to be added.
ARE YOU KDDING?!? TENJOU TENGE SUCKS. O_O!

I mean, I respect your opinion, but have you even SEEN an episode of that piece of crap?! It's got a highschool swordswoman with breasts bigger than my head, who's taught by another swordswoman with BIGGER breasts. The animation is even worse than the art and the story is about HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DOING MAGICAL FIGHTING CRAP. X_X If that went to Adult Swim, I'd wanna kill something. o_o;

[Sketch]

Well I've been picked apart here...

Dalek you're a FOOL to think Naruto will be on Adult Swim. Did you forget what just happened to One Piece? It's Toonami or the Fox Box and boy do I hope it's Toonami. Even if Viz get it (and they probably will), they'll want it on Toonami but I guess we should let where Flame of Recca goes decide that matter. If FoR goes to Adult Swim then I guess Viz has every intention of putting all their shonens on Adult Swim if FoR goes elsewhere then I wouldn't expect Naruto on AS but I guess we wont know until we here something... But I'm sticking to the belief that no Shonen Jump series will ever air on Adult Swim again because it would draw in the wrong crowd.

[Lord Dalek]

Well I've been picked apart here...

Dalek you're a FOOL to think Naruto will be on Adult Swim. Did you forget what just happened to One Piece? It's Toonami or the Fox Box and boy do I hope it's Toonami. Even if Viz get it (and they probably will), they'll want it on Toonami but I guess we should let where Flame of Recca goes decide that matter. If FoR goes to Adult Swim then I guess Viz has every intention of putting all their shonens on Adult Swim if FoR goes elsewhere then I wouldn't expect Naruto on AS but I guess we wont know until we here something... But I'm sticking to the belief that no Shonen Jump series will ever air on Adult Swim again because it would draw in the wrong crowd.
BUT WE ALREADY ARE DRAWING IN THE WRONG CROWD!

To the best of my knowledge Viz has never sold a series for Toonami. They know where the viewers are. And if memory serves last January we all agreed that Naruto should NOT go to Toonami. Times have not changed.

[Killtacular]

Naruto's not coming to Adult Swim. In fact, I'm going to predict that Naruto's not going to air on network television period.

I'm expecting it to air either on Kids WB or FOX BOX.

[Sketch]

Never say that Matt, NEVER EVER EVER say that! It couldn't be on the Fox Box this year, there's no room and it's pretty clear that Naruto will be on television very soon. The games coming is the final nail in the coffin... I just hope Naruto isn't treated like crap here.

Dalek, I've never agreed to that. I've always thought of Naruto as Toonami material and now that One Piece has gone to the Fox Box and it's just a few bars below Naruto is risky content then I'm sure Toonami is the most likely place for it to go.

And as for drawing the wrong crowd... I don't mean 14 year olds. I mean 11 year olds.

[Killtacular]

Never say that Matt, NEVER EVER EVER say that! It couldn't be on the Fox Box this year,
Who said this year?

[UberMonkey]

The games coming is the final nail in the coffin...
I still don't know where you heard that. Nowhere I've seen has mentioned anyone bringing it stateside. I would've expected it to be at E3, too.

[Lord Dalek]

Never say that Matt, NEVER EVER EVER say that! It couldn't be on the Fox Box this year, there's no room and it's pretty clear that Naruto will be on television very soon. The games coming is the final nail in the coffin... I just hope Naruto isn't treated like crap here.

Dalek, I've never agreed to that. I've always thought of Naruto as Toonami material and now that One Piece has gone to the Fox Box and it's just a few bars below Naruto is risky content then I'm sure Toonami is the most likely place for it to go.

And as for drawing the wrong crowd... I don't mean 14 year olds. I mean 11 year olds.Well it may attract 11 year olds, but it doesn't have to stoop down to their level of intelligence. Naruto is pretty gritty at times and I think the only way any of that grit could survive perfectly in tact would be on AS. Don't hit me, I'm doing you guys all a favor.

And Matt. Don't fight it, it's inevitable.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

If it goes to Viz(which I think is likely), it'll air on AS or not air at all. Funi would put it on Toonami, Sony might too, and 4Kids just plain won't get it.

[livingfruitvirus]

If it goes to Viz(which I think is likely), it'll air on AS or not air at all.
Why not? Viz sure didn't mind Zoids on Toonami.

[Lord Dalek]

Why not? Viz sure didn't mind Zoids on Toonami.Technically Viz didn't release Zoids, Pioneer did.

Look we'll put it on at 11:00 on Saturday. Noone's gonna know the difference.

[True Noir]

I like your schedule except I don't think that Full Metal A. or Gundum could make it on to AS. I mean, FMA does have gory parts but it just doesn't seem to fit with AS. At keast that's what I think.

[livingfruitvirus]

Viz was the licensor though.

I like your schedule except I don't think that Full Metal A. or Gundum could make it on to AS. I mean, FMA does have gory parts but it just doesn't seem to fit with AS. At keast that's what I think.
FMA has already been purchased and confirmed by AS.

[Lord Dalek]

Viz was the licensor though.


FMA has already been purchased and confirmed by AS.I thought ShoPro was?

[Youko Recca]

How many episodes have you seen True Noir?...cause it sure as hell couldn't be on Toonami as much as I wouldn't care.

[Killtacular]

And Matt. Don't fight it, it's inevitable.
Fight what? If Naruto came to Cartoon Network, it would get a Kenshin like editting beatdown and would air on Toonami. But if it came to Cartoon Network, that means that it would have been licensed by someone who puts out uncut dubs and subs, so you can DEAL WITH IT and BUY THE DVDS if it BOTHERS YOU.

If ShoPro had Naruto, it would go to Kids WB without a doubt.

[Lord Dalek]

If ShoPro had Naruto, it would go to Kids WB without a doubt.
Well it's obvious that they can't because it is not a Shogagukan property.

[Beat]

Naruto's not coming to Adult Swim. In fact, I'm going to predict that Naruto's not going to air on network television period.

I'm expecting it to air either on Kids WB or FOX BOX.*Explodes*

It'd be nice if Nartuo ended up in licensing hell, and no one got it. Because then at least it wouldn't be edited by 4Kids.

BTW, one of the admins on AS.com was more than vocal about his support for Naruto on Adult Swim. Food for thought, eh?

[Andy Mancini]

At the present moment... damn. My mind went blank. Of the ones that I can think of, Overman King Gainer seems to have the best shot in my book. It's a Bandai property that hasn't gotten much fanfare over here, plus it has Tomino attatched to it. They could be hoping for another Big O with this one. I could also see Spiral pushing it's way onto the block, but it depends largely on the overall ratings of Detective Conan. If Conan sticks around, we'll have the "FUNimation Mystery Hour" within a year. If it doesn't... well, there will always be the DVDs. Both Read or Die TV and Gadguard are possibilities as well, but those could go to Toonami, or in the case of Gadguard, MTV.

That area might also be used for some experimentation if CN/WS can get distributors to lend some offbeat series to them for cheap. Haibane Renmei, Arjuna, NieA_7, KoiKaze, Someday's Dreamers, Paranoia Agent, Texhnolyze, The Legend of Black Heaven, Gravitation, Gunslinger Girl, Cromartie High School and various other strange, weird series would be what could be played with here if CN can get the companies to take free exposure as payment.
As cool as that idea is... no. It just wouldn't work. Some of those shows mentioned, like Gunslinger Girl and Gravitation, are (or will be) way too controversial for American television, even late at night. Others, like Haibane Renmei and Texholyze... well, let's just put it this way: the ending of Big O II confused a lot of people. Those two shows, especially the latter, will make some people's brains melt.

[Will Sturnick]

Is the show even going to make it to 156? Isn't it ending in Japan in a couple of months?
Yes it will. Episode 156 airs next Monday in Japan. Assuming the shows run goes uninterupted until the end of September (when it's supposedly ending), Inuyasha will end with 170 episodes.

[Killtacular]

At the present moment... damn. My mind went blank. Of the ones that I can think of, Overman King Gainer seems to have the best shot in my book. It's a Bandai property that hasn't gotten much fanfare over here, plus it has Tomino attatched to it.
I thought it didn't get much fanfare because people hated it. When I quizzed people for a horrible anime, that name popped up a couple of times.

[Karl Olson]

I thought it didn't get much fanfare because people hated it. When I quizzed people for a horrible anime, that name popped up a couple of times.


It's Tomino's pet project. So much so that an extreme close up of his face is on the cover of the first DVD. I'd have a hunch that as such, it's something for the Tomino fanboys. Doesn't strike me as something for AS as such.

[kaine23]

well, let's just put it this way: the ending of Big O II confused a lot of people. Those two shows, especially the latter, will make some people's brains melt.There's the understatement of the year. :sweat:

[Lord Dalek]

There's the understatement of the year. :sweat:Same with Paranoia Agent. Sorry Fuma...

[Sasshi]

I think R.O.D. TV might air. Don't know about the OVA but if it does air it should air as a movie type thing. Like Animatrix.

[Sketch]

Fight what? If Naruto came to Cartoon Network, it would get a Kenshin like editting beatdown and would air on Toonami. But if it came to Cartoon Network, that means that it would have been licensed by someone who puts out uncut dubs and subs, so you can DEAL WITH IT and BUY THE DVDS if it BOTHERS YOU.

If ShoPro had Naruto, it would go to Kids WB without a doubt.
1) Now that's what I like to hear

2) Boy that would be something awful wouldn't it? But ShoPro does work on Inuyasha so uh... nah it'd still be doomed to KWB.

[True Noir]

How many episodes have you seen True Noir?...cause it sure as hell couldn't be on Toonami as much as I wouldn't care.
Having seen only seven episodes might be the problem. I take back my opinion for FMA but not for Gundum.

[Youko Recca]

No don't take back your opinion, you also have to decide if what I say is true.

[Sketch]

Having seen only seven episodes might be the problem. I take back my opinion for FMA but not for Gundum.
Zeta Gundam isn't going to air. I was just hopeful... something should air in August but we don't know what.

[Karl Olson]

As cool as that idea is... no. It just wouldn't work. Some of those shows mentioned, like Gunslinger Girl and Gravitation, are (or will be) way too controversial for American television, even late at night. Others, like Haibane Renmei and Texholyze... well, let's just put it this way: the ending of Big O II confused a lot of people. Those two shows, especially the latter, will make some people's brains melt.


If people whine about 9-year-olds with Sig 9's (to those calling it lolicon, I contest that because they went out of their way to remove every trace of fanservice when bringing it to TV, it's not lolicon, atleast in any explicit sense unless girls handling firearms automatically equals lolicon) and mild shonen-ai at 4 or 5 in the morning (OMG 2 guys kissed @ 4:30 in the morning, I'm going to write my congressman,) they oughta be smacked. If CN doesn't try some experimentation now, they'll see ADV's linear Anime Network gobble up all the properties that'd be worth experimenting with, atleast for a while (Rondo Robe seems to bust out a couple of odd series a year, so they'd have something to play with soon enough.)

As far as Haibane, Mousou, Arjuna and Texhnolyze being abstract and dense, that is the exact reason why they'd be on in an experimental spot. They ran in the same godawful time slots in Japan, so it's not like it'd be disrespecting the series either. If anything, ASA has made a habit of running shows very far in one direction or the other from their original timeslot, so throwing experimental shows on when they are supposed to air would be an interesting change of pace.

Granted, even I've said that an experimental block is unlikely, mainly because CN is obsessed with cool programming, not necessarily interesting, engaging programming (the definetion of which varies immensely, but still.) Also, convincing distributors that any promotion is good promotion, especially when all it costs is lending the tapes to CN for free, is probably easier said than done.

[Bandit]

Everyone always says how AS is obsessed with obtaining shows that have "cool atmospheres" etc., but where is the cool atmosphere in Detective Conan? Conan is almost completely void of one :p (Although it is currently one of my favorite shows on TV, and the only one I tune in daily for)

[Karl Olson]

Everyone always says how AS is obsessed with obtaining shows that have "cool atmospheres" etc., but where is the cool atmosphere in Detective Conan? Conan is almost completely void of one :p (Although it is currently one of my favorite shows on TV, and the only one I tune in daily for)

It's sharp, witty, and has a 17-year-old in a 5-year-old's body solving gruesome murders. The comedy blended with intrigue and mystery makes it pretty cool in a way. It's got a classic whodunnit vibe which also must be working well given that the ratings have supposedly been decent. Also, I'd guess that Funimation didn't try and fleece CN for it either to make sure it got on the air.

[The_Dominion]

It seems I have differing opinions of anime than most of the people on this forum. I think GunGrave is excellent, one of the better animes I have seen. I like Tenjou Tenge for what it is, a silly fighting anime with women with large breasts. You people are so critical of everything, you are like elitists, with any status. Oh, and Noir was OK, nothing great but I enjoyed it. Just mellow out some people, it isn't good to be so stuck up.

[Karl Olson]

It seems I have differing opinions of anime than most of the people on this forum. I think GunGrave is excellent, one of the better animes I have seen. I like Tenjou Tenge for what it is, a silly fighting anime with women with large breasts. You people are so critical of everything, you are like elitists, with any status. Oh, and Noir was OK, nothing great but I enjoyed it. Just mellow out some people, it isn't good to be so stuck up.

It's just some honest, raw, personal analysis. The fanbases for Gungrave, Gunslinger Girl (I hate saying that, cause I really like it,) Tenjo Tenge (if that's ASA material, so is Ikkitousen and Mahoromatic,) Noir and even Witch Hunter Robin and Wolf's Rain are somewhat (if not incredibly) narrow (especially compared to shows with general draw, like Bebop, FLCL and Conan,) and niche anime is not going to help AS in the long term, atleast if they are in lead position (in an experimental capacity, it might help.) There are a number of shows I really enjoy, but I know they'd bomb out massively, especially the way CN manages it's promotions these days (Arjuna wouldn't grab anyone without some very good, smart promotion, and even then, people would be inclined to write it off as Capt. Planet/Sailor Moon lovechild.)

Adult Swim needs stuff that grabs viewers from the start and doesn't let go (making Champloo a great choice, if MTV2 doesn't try to nail it down first,) and the fact is, atmospheric, pastorally paced shows don't cut the mustard, even if they have awesome gunfights in them and a cooler-than-thou vibe running through them, especially in lead slots. Let's not even go into something that's missing the gunfights (something like Paranoia Agent or Haibane would have to be running in a completely experimental time slot way out of the way to make sure it didn't matter if the ratings bit.)

It doesn't mean some of the atmospheric or fanservicey stuff aren't good shows (though some would contest that with there last dying breath.) I love a lot of the stuff that's atmospherically driven (I own non-H Gunslinger Girl doujin, I'm probably the only person on the board watching KoiKaze still and I'm the biggest yoshitoshi ABe fanboy I know,) but I understand for the purposes of mainstream TV (which is what AS has to become to survive in the long term,) coquettish series about teenage magic users or slacker aliens isn't gonna fly, nor are shows front-loaded with well-endowed bishoujo. Atleast any time before 2am or after 5am.

[The_Dominion]

There hasn't been one show with the exception of Bebop people like Matt, have not complained about. I don't know what would make them happy. I don't think there is a show out there that Matt won't have something negative to say about. As for the other people complaining, what kind of shows do you want? Do you even like the idea that Full Metal Alchemist is coming? It's obvious nothing will appease the great majority of you. I say let everyone else have fun and watch something on AS.

[Youko Recca]

I agree but it is just human nature. There will always be someone to complain about something. I am pretty sure "people like Matt" will complain about the first like...three or four episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist but that'll change REALLY soon....unless they dwell too much on how much they didn't like the early episodes. Which brings us back to square one...

[True Noir]

Everyone always says how AS is obsessed with obtaining shows that have "cool atmospheres" etc., but where is the cool atmosphere in Detective Conan? Conan is almost completely void of one :p (Although it is currently one of my favorite shows on TV, and the only one I tune in daily for)
This is a bit off subject, but I have to say that I LOVE LOVE LOVE your avater.

As for Conan though, I can't comment on anything since I have interest to stay up and watch a show that I have no interest in.

And I have to say also, that for every episode of FMA I have seen, it seems to get better. That's a plus.

[Killtacular]

I'd have less negative things to say about the anime on AS if they made choices that didn't SUCK. Choices that weren't directed by zombies, but also choices that aren't braindead. Those are the choices that AS should be making. But they haven't been.

[The_Dominion]

Then Matt, what do you like, and what would you like to see on AS?