C&C - Wolf's Rain - The Flower Maiden [6/5]

[Tienshin]

The road to Paradise continues.

[Killtacular]

I swear this show went so slow that it actually stopped for a minute, frozen in time. And I looked outside my window.. cars were travelling backwards.

[Youko Recca]

Naw Matt I think that was just the opium getting to you again ;)

[Mr_Millions]

I thought this episode was pretty good. It even had some good music Still a little slow, but alot faster than usual. Eh, I guess gunfire kind of has that effect. Or maybe I'm just easy to please.

That Noble guy certainly had a brief role to play. Oh, wait, he survives without a scratch. Of couse.

[Master Moron]

I saw a boob.

[SirLemming]

Geeze, I didn't think this was a slow episode at all. I mean, sure, the show's been very slow in the past, but I think this was the first truly great episode. Beautiful. The music doesn't hurt either.

Did anyone else laugh when the guy said "Homina"? I thought he was reacting to how hot the girl was, but he was actually saying her name.
It was also kind of funny how she was like, "Anything can be paradise as long as I'm with you", when they were in like the nicest place ever.

[Dark Soul]

Good episode with the action and the plot developing at a pretty fast pace. Well it looks like the show is getting better and better. I rate it an A

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I swear this show went so slow that it actually stopped for a minute, frozen in time. And I looked outside my window.. cars were travelling backwards.

the story (if there is one) is slow but the episodes go by fast for me! and this episode was no different. still no action but there was blood somehow.....I guess jumping on people makes them die :confused: yeah they are wolves and have claws but do they show that no they don't :( and even if it was for only a little while the wolves once again broke up only to come back together in the end. will this group ever get along and stick together :confused: http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Youko Recca]

I saw a boob.
When?

[Anime Freak]

Wow,somthing actually happened in this episode! :) This was one of my favorite eppys so far. New character and good movement of the plot at last. I was actually upset when the ending came on after it showed the doctor's radar going blank because I wanted more. Definetly starting to get good.

[Mr_Millions]

I saw a boob.
The best part of having a programming block called "adult swim" is the level of maturity of the viewer base.

[Botman]

I'm rooting for the humans with the guns...:evil:

[Youko Recca]

The best part of having a programming block called "adult swim" is the level of maturity of the viewer base.
Ah and that thankfully doesn't apply to me....

[Master Moron]

When?

When that girl with long hair was laying on that...thing...her hair was covering her left breast, but you could see her right breast.

[herbkir]

A really good episode. We got to meet Cheza at last. When she first ppeared, I thought she was a female wolf being kept for experiments. Turns out she was something else, perhaps related to the plant kingdom since it looked like her people were birthed from pods. Anyway, for Kiba it was love at first sniff. He let her see his wolf form and looked so happy as she hugged and petted him.

At the end the wolves literally dropped off the radar screen after chewing up a few soldiers. It'll be a long wait until next Sat. It still puzzles me how people can find this show boring. It's really got me hooked. (^_*)

[livingfruitvirus]

When that girl with long hair was laying on that...thing...her hair was covering her left breast, but you could see her right breast.
What? There was hair covering both you crazy person.

[The_Dominion]

Why do people say there is no story, or the story is slow?

The fact of the matter every episode is part of the story. There is a such a thing called character development. I know it is absurd, but they actually like to prolong the story to a whole 30 episodes! And with such useless information like what happened to Kiba when he was a pup, or why Tsume is such a badass. I mean the whole series should be 5 episodes, like with short essays. Introduction-3 Points-Conclusion. Seriously people give it a break. You get all scared when there is more story to something, and then somehow get turned around and accuse it of having no story.

[DarthNuriko]

I couldn't help but find it really funny that the Flower Maiden's scent apparently makes them all randy. No wonder they're so intent on finding this Paradise... even the guy who didn't want to go in the first place. :D

[PickHut]

It's Mary Poppins!!:eek: ....er....I mean Cheza.

Ya know, earlier today, I thought they would go another 2 or 3 episodes running around and bumping into one shot characters before diving into the main plot, guess not. The pack finally meets Cheza face to face and Kiba goes all puppy love on her:rolleyes: . I thought Hige, Toboe, and Tsume's reactions to her were pretty humorous. The battle at the end was entertaining too, also nice to see Cher again and what she's been doing. Some of the scenery was a nice change of pace after all those dark enviroments in previous episodes.

Entertaining episode, I give The Flower Maiden an A-.

[ClockStomper]

I watch this show to laugh at the cheesy homo-erotic overtones (and the YK music,) so imagine my disapointment at them getting worked up over a chick. At least Tsume was as gay as ever.

Also, Steve Blum is good at the uber' sexy voice. Good to hear him acting again, rather than languishing on a half baked american made Toonami series.

[livingfruitvirus]

Next week's episode -

the oldest, crustiest......THING you've ever seen

[Paul_Cousins]

I swear this show went so slow that it actually stopped for a minute, frozen in time. And I looked outside my window.. cars were travelling backwards.LOL!! Good one. :D

I usually don't agree with you on your opinions of the pacing of various shows, but I agree with you this time. Wolf's Rain is not paced, it's a slow walk forward.

I am disapointed. This show is from the creators of Cowboy Bebop. I know that they can do better. What happened, did they all start taking valium.

I really do hope this show starts picking up the pace. :)

On a side note, those curving lasers shot by the airplane looked like Darkseid's (DC Comics/DCAU) Omega Beams.

[Tapout]

Did anyone else laugh when the guy said "Homina"? I thought he was reacting to how hot the girl was, but he was actually saying her name.I just kept picturing Duckman for the rest of the episode.

This was the best episode so far. Something actually happened besides them wandering aimlessly and Tsume comitting random acts of dickitry.

Speaking of Tsume, his wardrobe would be better placed at a certain type of nightclub, probably in the San Fransisco area.

[Sampo]

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Wolfs%20Rain/SM1.jpg



After all that searching and leading the pack through various obstacles on their journey, Kiba finds Cheza.

While watching this episode we finally see why Darcia wants Cheza so badly. Still, it would be nice to throw some clothes on her or something. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Wolfs%20Rain/1022.jpg) I was really expecting a confrontation between Darcia and the wolves inorder to get Cheza, but then she does that whirlly thing out of that airship and I guess she landed safely on the ground. When she did that, it reminded me of a paper toy I used to make when I was a kid. I use to throw it up high in the air and watch it spiral downwards.

That smell of the Lunar Flowers drive those wolves on the wacky side. I wonder where the flower lady is going to lead them next.

Link to screen caps be here. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/Wolfs%20Rain.htm)

[True Noir]

Nice... finally things are starting up. Cheza was different from what I expected but I like her a lot. That was sweet when Kiba bit one of the guys and they showed his teeth.

A

[TsuiTsui]

The beautiful visuals in this series still impress me with each episode! I was really impressed with the garden scene in the beginning; everything was so pretty! :anime:
I thought the storyline of this series is pacing just fine. With this episode, I got a glimpse of Darcia's past and an explanation of Cheza's origin, which answers the reason why the wolves were reacting to her prescence. Now that Cheza is awake, I am looking forward to next week's episode to see what will unfold.

[Artimus Gigan]

The way that garden was designed reminded me of one of those old LCD games, one of them had a very similar setting...

Anyways Lunar Flowers are basicly catnip....for wolves...

too bad there was no female wolf with them...would have been interesting to see the reaction...

Next week:
More *****ed shat that makes no sense, and somthing that will put cornal sander's fried chicken to shame

[Wolfie~Giri]

It was great!! I actually didn't think Cheza could talk!
Once I found that she wasn't a wolf I was dissapointed but hey she's a flower maiden thats...pretty cool....I guess to be created from a flower..I'm just about as confused as Tsume is:rolleyes: ..Nothin changed between characters that much...
Hegai still makes me laugh..Toboe still is annoying at times..Tsume's got that attitude still ..and Kiba ..well ..he found Cheza(which made him real happy).
Once again the spotlight shines on Kiba (and then back to Cheza) ..well he is the main character next to Tsume...and Cheza?

I give it an A cause of a more story to it and of course the action.. :cool:

[PaQ]

This was a pretty entertaining episode. Having the wolves continue to follow Kiba, and questioning his reasoning with how he is tracking paradise, Kiba simply responds he's using his instinct. Then who happens to float her way down to them (after of course simply getting up and walking off the ship that was in evasive actions) most likely getting the energy from knowing the wolves are close, I assume, or the fact that she was close to her birth place.

The wolves meet Cheza, and it was a nice meeting. It was interesting to see how they were all affected by her, Toboe seriously blushing, Hige off in a daze of desire, and Tsume.. um.. looking perplexed somewhat. Cheza hugging Kiba was a nice part, and then them following her throughout the lab ruins. Tsume and Hige took care of some of the soldiers, but soon enough they reunited with Cheza, Kiba and Toboe. The cool thing is that Cheza, the flower maiden, was created from a Lunar flower.. which is just WOW.. :eek: Nice to see her be able to connect to the plants, and that tree that made that opening for them to escape in, and then disappear. Great episode.

I give "The Flower Maiden" an A.

[Sanwich]

While the episode did start off a little slow - even with the whole spaceship battling thing going on - the pace really started to pick up (well, in my opinion) and left me on the edge of my seat. Man, what a place to cut to the end credits. o_x

The whole scene when the wolves first see Cheza peaceful and up-close, and when she was hugging Kiba... That was really beautiful. It's funny how natural their meeting seemed - she's a 'flower maiden' and they're animals, and neither group was really afraid or suspicious. Well, except Tsume a little, but hey. ;)

[ClockStomper]

I am disapointed. This show is from the creators of Cowboy Bebop. I know that they can do better. What happened, did they all start taking valium.
No, they lied to us...musical director, character designer and a couple others does not equal "creator of Bebop". The director and writers aren't even involved.

[Artimus Gigan]

Just to remind everyone, episode 8 is where everything actualy starts moving and falling into place...so..watch episode 8

Oh and since we're out of the beginning rut I shall begin to spoil everytrhing....again...for the very first time...in black boxes...highlight if you dare...

[lostrune]

1. We already know Darcia is Steve Blum. How about Hamona? Wanna bet it's Wendee Lee? :anime:

2. Sure, the captain said fire a warning shot... and they fired a barrage.
Then they want to save Cheza, but he said to fire at the main engines to crash it. :rolleyes: :D

3. Maybe they know something about Cheza that we don't yet. How did Cheza survive the jump anyways? And why didn't the soldiers conduct an immediate drop at the probable landing area and initiated the search right away? And does Darcia keeping water at her feet work like osmosis? :shrug:

4. Damn Cheza and her mega-pheromones! We need no beastiality gangbang orgy! :p


Next week's episode -

the oldest, crustiest......THING you've ever seen

Grandma's feet? :eek:

[livingfruitvirus]

No, they lied to us...musical director, character designer and a couple others does not equal "creator of Bebop".
I guess the animators don't matter.

[Artimus Gigan]

Cheze was able to float down because she was mimicing those polly-nose leaves that fall from trees


she was born from a plant remember...

the logic behind this series is incredibly bleak...

[Romanesque]

No, they lied to us...musical director, character designer and a couple others does not equal "creator of Bebop". The director and writers aren't even involved.

Actually... I thought the main writer(s) from Bebop were involved. Practically everyone of importance to Bebop save for the director was involved, so it's far from an outright lie.

--Romey

[Kesh]

4. Damn Cheza and her mega-pheromones! We need no beastiality gangbang orgy! :p

Yes we do! :cool:

I just loved that line about the scent making them feel "like when you want to pounce a pretty girl." :D

[JetMaster5]

I am disapointed. This show is from the creators of Cowboy Bebop. I know that they can do better. What happened, did they all start taking valium.
It doesn't matter who worked on this series, if the story isn't good, the series is not good.

[Wounded_Dragon]

The cool thing is that Cheza, the flower maiden, was created from a Lunar flower.. which is just WOW.. :eek:
I guess I should say it and get it out of everyone's systems at once...so, do you think she'll be deflowered? :sweat:

[Paul_Cousins]

No, they lied to us...musical director, character designer and a couple others does not equal "creator of Bebop". The director and writers aren't even involved.I said creators

Anyway, my statement still stands, the music could be better and the character designs could be better.

Actually... I thought the main writer(s) from Bebop were involved. Practically everyone of importance to Bebop save for the director was involved, so it's far from an outright lie.

--Romey
They could do so much better than this snoozer. ;)

If Wolf's Rain was not so slow, it would actually be pretty good.

[Sheamon]

1. We already know Darcia is Steve Blum. How about Hamona? Wanna bet it's Wendee Lee? :anime:

Nope, it was Bridge Hoffman. :p

And for the record, yes, Wolf's Rain's creator and writer, Keiko Nobumoto was one of the writers for Cowboy Bebop. Shinichiro Watanabe doesn't seem to be involved, but he alone didn't make Bebop great, pretty much all the other main staffers were involved. No, Wolf's Rain isn't on the level of Bebop or Escaflowne, but I think its without a shadow of a doubt the best new anime of 2003, and have no problem whatsoever with the slow pace since the characterization, mood and setting make up for it.

[Beat]

This show is...

Let's see, BORING. Why must this move slower than a Yugo? Dramatic effect? An attempt to annoy? Either way, it fails miserably.

[ClockStomper]

Shinichiro Watanabe doesn't seem to be involved, but he alone didn't make Bebop great
I'm starting to think otherwise. Detective Story's 10 minutes of content was better than anything the others have mustered up thus far. I'm thinking Bebop would have been crap if not for Watanabe's creative vision.

[Sampo]

...
the logic behind this series is incredibly bleak...
Arg, I'm still banging my head against the wall about the wolf illusion thing. Gah. MAKES NO SENSE!

*Goes back to the wall*

[Stripe]

I'd say this is the best eppisode so far, and that's saying alot since I actually really like this show. I for one didn't find it boring at all, I think the story and premise are great (of course, I really like wolves)

[Deadly Messiah]

Ok, so I like this show, but not enough to buy the DVDs to it. I am not sure why, but this series is just missing something. Also, I had expected more out of Yoko Kanno's soundtrack as in Cowboy Bebop and Escaflowne. For some reason, this soundtrack just sounds flat.

[SirLemming]

I don't see how THIS episode was any more boring than half the animes out there. I understand why the show's gotten the reputation for being boring, but I really think this episode avoided that problem. Certainly there are more than a few Cowboy Bebop episodes that were more boring than this episode of Wolf's Rain.

Like... "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Wild Horses", for example.

[Starflyer 58]

Holy fripe, I can't believe everyone's so hard on this show. I think the characters, the concept, the amount of detail and development, and the beautiful visuals would be more than enough to generate interest. It's certainly caught mine. I'm glad it's taking its time to tell its story.

[Artimus Gigan]

Wolf's rain needs to be watched in blocks of episodes, not just one per week

next episode is definetly a pleaser though...

[Paul_Cousins]

I don't see how THIS episode was any more boring than half the animes out there. I understand why the show's gotten the reputation for being boring, but I really think this episode avoided that problem. Certainly there are more than a few Cowboy Bebop episodes that were more boring than this episode of Wolf's Rain.

Like... "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Wild Horses", for example."Bohemian Rhapsody" was just different.

And though the first half of "Wild Horses" was slow, the last half not the makes up for it, especially the shuttle re-entry scene; to quote Spike on during the event, as he is smoking, "Whatever happens, happens..."

Wolf's Rain on the other hand has just been slow.

[Andy Mancini]

I know you all probably don't want to hear this, but...

1) Just because the there are people who worked on both shows doesn't mean that it's going to be exactly the same. That's like saying that Velvet Revolver is the next Guns 'n Roses. After all, both bands contain Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum, so they have to be GnR: Version Two... right?

2) Believe it or not, Wolf's Rain, in my opinion, is not meant to be the next Cowboy Bebop. The latter is an action show first, while the former is a character-based drama. Think about it. We know more about Toboe in seven episodes than we ever knew about Ed, for example. Another thing that differenciates the two shows is the amount of symbolism contained in each. Whereas Bebop (movie excluded) is rather light on the "evil 's' word", WR is filled with it, almost to the point that one can... no, I'm just going to stop there. All of you will have to figure that out of yourselves.

3) If Wolf's Rain really is boring some of you to the point of tears, then why are you still watching it?

4) Could you all knock of the "beastiality" jokes and other sex-related comments? Those who are making them, even in jest, are acting like a pack of thirteen-year-olds who just snuck into their first R-rated movies. All you're doing is proving your immaturity to the world.

[SirLemming]

"Bohemian Rhapsody" was just different.

And thought the first half of "Wild Horses" was slow, the last half not the makes up for it, especially the shuttle re-entry scene; to quote Spike on during the event, as he is smoking, "Whatever happens, happens..."

Wolf's Rain on the other hand has just been slow.Certainly I wouldn't call any episode of Cowboy Bebop truly boring, and I can certainly see the value in all of them, but compared to this isolated episode of Wolf's Rain I'd really have to consider them more boring. I mean, "Bohemian Rhapsody" is just an old guy playing chess and the characters trying to find out stuff about him. And similarly, a lot of WR episodes have just been the characters walking around and talking about Paradise. But in this one a lot of stuff actually happened and the plots finally started coming together.

[Mr_Millions]

Arg, I'm still banging my head against the wall about the wolf illusion thing. Gah. MAKES NO SENSE!
Just think of it as a modern myth.It isn't supposed to be logical. It's simply Japanese people making a Native American myth...that takes place in Russia...in the future...or something...my brain hurts.

At least it's entertaining

[Sheamon]

I know you all probably don't want to hear this, but...

1) Just because the there are people who worked on both shows doesn't mean that it's going to be exactly the same. That's like saying that Velvet Revolver is the next Guns 'n Roses. After all, both bands contain Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum, so they have to be GnR: Version Two... right?

2) Believe it or not, Wolf's Rain, in my opinion, is not meant to be the next Cowboy Bebop. The latter is an action show first, while the former is a character-based drama. Think about it. We know more about Toboe in seven episodes than we ever knew about Ed, for example. Another thing that differenciates the two shows is the amount of symbolism contained in each. Whereas Bebop (movie excluded) is rather light on the "evil 's' word", WR is filled with it, almost to the point that one can... no, I'm just going to stop there. All of you will have to figure that out of yourselves.
Somebody gets it! *claps* As I've said before, Cowboy Bebop was always the PERFECT show to kick start Adult Swim both because of its structure, where most of the episodes are stand alone and you can watch most eps after Ed shows up in any order, and because the quality of the show was so high (so high that everything else after has paled in comparison). Sorry people, but we're NEVER going to get the same experience on AS again that we had when Bebop ran for the first time. But that doesn't make all the other anime AS shows crap. Bebop ran 2 episodes a week instead of 1 and since the main plot only was in 5 episodes it wasn't such a big deal that the show was stretched out over 3 months. Wolf's Rain IS NOT Cowboy Bebop. Its not structured at all in the same way, such that it is harmed by its once a week airing. But that doesn't mean it isn't a good show. And it certainly doesn't mean that we should start discrediting the work of the many great staffers that brought both Bebop and Wolf's Rain to us, something which I've unfortunately seen in this thread. You take out someone like Keiko Nobumoto or Yoko Kanno and Bebop is nowhere as good as it ended up being. Wolf's Rain is a very good show that will please most of you if you give it the time. No its, not Cowboy Bebop, but you should not be expecting it to be that.

[raykremer]

Why do people say there is no story, or the story is slow? The fact of the matter every episode is part of the story. There is a such a thing called character development. Sure, and if Wolf's Rain had any of that for the four main wolf characters I wouldn't complain about how slow the story moves.

Anyway, obviously this is one of the few episodes where something significant happens. We learn about Darcia's motivations and the wolves bring Cheza into their ranks.

One thing I want to see (maybe it's already been done) is a Wolf's Rain AMV set to The Cowsills' "The Rain, the Park, and Other Things".
I love the flower girl, oh, I don't know just why.
She simply caught my eye.
I love the flower girl, she seemed so sweet and kind.
She crept into my mind.

[Jaguar]

This episode did go by pretty slow, but unlike WHR I didn't mind the slowness here. Glad to see Cheza and the gang have finally met up, seems like the show is *hopefully* just going to get better.

B+ this week.

[Mystic Shadow]

Nice episode. Good backstory. Chezza's an interesting character.

Grade: A

That's it.

[Master Moron]

What? There was hair covering both you crazy person.

Was not.

[RD!]

Was not.

Oh you told him.

[Sampo]

Was not.Really?!! Dang, I guess I missed my chance at making a screen cap of that.

Oh well.

[fearlessleader7]

I liked this episode. The pacing was fine, and the plot advanced. I'll give it an A+

[adrchick]

Hey All. Newbie here. I'm an avid fan of Bebop and Wolf's Rain and I think many of you have gotten the differences between these two amazing shows. The most important difference is the style of storytelling. Wolf's Rain must be seen in it's entirety to be completely understood. Which means that I'm hoping you all will be patient enough to stick with it until the end, which is one of the most amazing (no spoilers here) endings of any anime series. And yes, the pace is slow, but that gives the characters time to develop and the world a chance to be established. The plot is actually rather complicated, which I think is why the creators were so slow to reveal it. I do agree, however, that the show is better when watched 3 episodes at a time. At any rate, I hope you'll keep watching. The arc each one of these characters go through is unlike any animated show I've ever seen, Japanese or American.

BTW, I think Hamona is voiced by Peggy O'Neal. Brigette Hoffman was the female wolf (Cole?) in the city where all the wolves had given up on going to Paradise.

[Michael]

i liked it, was actually happy to see the plot get moving somewhat!

[Grey Wolf]

It's a quest. Quests are always long and I suppose somewhat "slow". But in each episode something *DOES* happen, a character gets further development, you see more about the workings of the world, or you get other pieces about the overall puzzle. It seems like a lot of people want them to hurry up and get to paradise, but as that old saying goes its not so much the destination, but the journey itself( or something like that). Each character grows and develops throughout the course of the story and as they travel around you've seen(like the previous two eps.), why finding paradise is necessary. Though if you aren't interested in the characters, I could see why one would get bored.
I am curious though, for those that say that it is slow and nothing happens, what do *YOU* think should be happening now? What do you look for that is missing? What do you think is missing? Action? Likeable characters? Perphaps you don't like stretched out mysteries? Something else?

[Mystic Shadow]

It's a quest. Quests are always long and I suppose somewhat "slow". But in each episode something *DOES* happen, a character gets further development, you see more about the workings of the world, or you get other pieces about the overall puzzle. It seems like a lot of people want them to hurry up and get to paradise, but as that old saying goes its not so much the destination, but the journey itself( or something like that). Each character grows and develops throughout the course of the story and as they travel around you've seen(like the previous two eps.), why finding paradise is necessary. Though if you aren't interested in the characters, I could see why one would get bored.
I am curious though, for those that say that it is slow and nothing happens, what do *YOU* think should be happening now? What do you look for that is missing? What do you think is missing? Action? Likeable characters? Perphaps you don't like stretched out mysteries? Something else?You should have been here a couple of weeks ago, when the haters were still around. Not that they'd be patient enough to listen though.

Oh and a question, is Wolf's Rain your favorite show? Your name: Grey Wolf.
and your only two posts: One on each of the last two Talkbacks. ...Just wondering...

[Scarlet Witch]

4 words,I-will-kill-Cheza!:evil: :evil: :evil: KIBA IS MINE!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[True Noir]

4 words,I-will-kill-Cheza!:evil: :evil: :evil: KIBA IS MINE!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
Eh! No! He's mine.:evil: Just kidding. Cheza is cool and worth giving up Kiba for.

[Deadly Messiah]

Oh what the hell, might as well join in.

You guys can have Cheza, just give me Cher. :D

[Grey Wolf]

Oh and a question, is Wolf's Rain your favorite show? Your name: Grey Wolf.
and your only two posts: One on each of the last two Talkbacks. ...Just wondering...
Wolves are my favorite animal, and yeah its definately my favorite show on tv right now.

[raykremer]

I am curious though, for those that say that it is slow and nothing happens, what do *YOU* think should be happening now? What do you look for that is missing? What do you think is missing? Action? Likeable characters? Perphaps you don't like stretched out mysteries? Something else? It's one of those series that needs tighter scripting. Things that take two or three episodes would have flowed better as one episode. They run around quite a bit and do a bunch of stuff, but they only manage to actually accomplish something every once in a while. This is not helpful when the audience excepts some sort of ongoing plot. Also, the four main wolves are static characters, and thus get rather tiresome after a while. The humans are much more interesting.

[Artimus Gigan]

Oh what the hell, might as well join in.

You guys can have Cheza, just give me Cher. :DYou must go through me...and my gun...and those guys...who are angry...and that bear...

For that Cher is mine