Cowboy Bebop News - Believable? or Bullcrap?

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

Slimey TVTome bilgerat John Q. Public posted this news on the Cowboy Bebop website. Yar!!

New Bebop On Cartoon Network In Talks

This is big news, straight out of Japan. As of this morning, CN Manager Mike Lazzo is in talks with Mr. Hajime about bringing Bebop back in full production!!! No joke here ladies and gents. With Family Guy being renewed, and Futurama looking to follow behind it, the network has pitched out an idea for at least a second season of the show. A working title at the moment is being referred to as "The Lost Logs" with no real insight as to what they fully intends. At a glance, it would suggest looking back on old stories, probably between the time they found and lost Ed. Nothing has been official yet, just in talks at the moment. But it's a sign that the future of bebop may not be so dead.Cap'n Goncherman's Analysis: Rrrr. This here article sounds to the cap'n like a whole lotta rehashed rumors. What bung hole did this landlubber crawl out of? Don't any of ye scurvy dogs recall Studio Bones not knowing a bloody thing about new Bebop episodes? This crusty ol' barnicle ridden rumor just seems to keep poppin' up again and again. Could it be true this time? Arr...maybe. Most likely not though. Those bilge rats at the network be always "discussing" things ya know. The only reason the cap'n that continues to be readin these quotes is simply because of CN's love for the Bebop series. They have a hornpipe in their pocket for it, if ya know what I mean.


Now, onto part two. YARR!

Cowboy Bebop: The Movie To Air By Year's End

Word around Turner is that feature film will air on Cartoon Network sometime by year's end, however it isn't without restrictions. The film is rated R, which if you haven't actually seen the film is for violence, language, and brief nudity (yes, they count animated). Which means it will have to go through the editor's table before it even shows up on the network. It's no secret that the series itself was edited for content before it was even allowed to be aired on Adult Swim, especially episodes like "Jupiter Jazz" and "Pierrot Le Fou." At a glance, a good 10-15 minutes would have to be edited out or re-voiced.

As to when and where it will air, your guess is as good as any. Fans have been pleading for years to have the show moved from Adult Swim to Toonami, which occasionaly does air feature films from the Dragonball Z (http://www.tvtome.com/DragonballZ/) series. But again, due to content, it will probably remian a fixture of Adult Swim for years to come. The best guess anyone can make si that it will end up playing on Saturday, more commonly known as "Anime Night." The film is just under two hours, which means withh commercials and possibly DVD features, it could be stretched to 3 and fill the entire night. Let's hope for the best, and prey they air it on just before Halloween.Cap'n Goncherman's Analysis: Arr, now this be more closer to the truth than that previous quote. The cap'n is reluctant to believe it though because a few months ago, some landlubbers at Starz! reported that they themselves had acquired that there Bebop movie, but if ye also recall many scurvy network reps sometimes announce crap BEFORE they acquire it. Let's not forget over yonder at Tech TV, who claimed they had gotten Macross Plus, Patlabor, and Ghost in the Shell, when all the time they never had them to begin with. Starz might be bluffin as well. The one line in that there quote that be leanin further from the truth be the line - "Fans have been pleading for years to have the show moved from Adult Swim to Toonami." AAAAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR! What kinda sissy lad wants THAT to happen? Speak up, if ye dare.

A GONCHERMAN UPDATE!!! - I've decided to contact Mr. Public meself, and the sassy man hast said that Starz be ownin the rights to the unedited version of the Bebop movie. The version Mr. Public claims CN has is in itself, a "syndication" version of the movie edited for TV. Probably by Sony.

ANOTHER GONCHERMAN UPDATE!!!!!! - Mr. Public contacted the cap'n again, saying that Mr. Hajime was brought out to ol' Atlanta to show him good time ya? Seems they're trying to pressure ol' Hajime into seeing the light. Again, only in "talks." At this rate those landlubbers at Cartoon Network will be in "talks" forever.

ANOTHER ANOTHER GONCHERMAN UDPATE!!!!!!!!!! - lord dalek says Hajime doesn't exist. Let's see if I can pull this scurvy dog's strings a little.

[Beat]

1. Bullcrap.

2. True.

[Delthayre]

1. I don't doubt that they've tried, but I don't think there's any substance to this.

2. Quite possible and I should hope true.

But here's the sad thing, an overly eccentric pirate has demonstrated the highest standard of journalistic intergrity I've seen recently.

[Anime Freak]

How can Cartoon Network have it when I recall watching it on Starz and on Encore Action Channel????

[Swordfish_II]

At a glance, a good 10-15 minutes would have to be edited out or re-voiced.
I don't really want to say too much, but the movie doesn't really have any content that hasn't been aired on Adult Swim before.

[Lord Dalek]

1. Obviously bullcrap. As any Gundam fan can tell you, Hajime Yatate is not a real person.

2. Thats more likely

[sl4]

I don't really want to say too much, but the movie doesn't really have any content that hasn't been aired on Adult Swim before.

Agreed. I don't think any scene cuts would be necessary, even. Of course, I'll stick to the rules and not say any more than that.

[Eddie G.]

I doubt that Bebop will get continued, even if it is a "fill in the blanks" series, but that's something I don't want to see. The story of CB and Spike has ended, it's been told, let's move on.

I wouldn't mind seeing a spin off of the series, with Ed in her twenties (I promise it is just not to see Ed with breasts) or Jet before Bebop. I also might not mind a Cowboy Bebop special, but the series itself should stay as it is, the continuity is up for screwing with in my mind though.

As for the articles I agree with Beatdigga. I'm sure Lazzo or others in WS have thought about Bebop being continued, but I think most people think and are right when it is called it is a pipe dream.

As for the movie, I'm sure Bebop the Movie with the Inuyasha movies will be on CN at one point... it's just a matter of time.

Slight Mod Edit: Please don't cite specific edits.

[Killtacular]

A GONCHERMAN UPDATE!!! - I've decided to contact Mr. Public meself, and the sassy man hast said that Starz be ownin the rights to the unedited version of the Bebop movie. The version Mr. Public claims CN has is in itself, a "syndication" version of the movie edited for TV. Probably by Sony.
In other words, a version that's clean enough to air on Toonami. No thanks, Sony.

[EightOh]

With Family Guy being renewed, and Futurama looking to follow behind itShouldn't we whip ourselves into a frenzy over this crap before worrying about the other crap?

[Killtacular]

Shouldn't we whip ourselves into a frenzy over this crap before worrying about the other crap?
There has always been the possibility. In fact Billy West has talked about it. But Cartoon Network's too cheapskate to do it without a network partner, and as far as I know there is none.

[EightOh]

There has always been the possibility. In fact Billy West has talked about it. But Cartoon Network's too cheapskate to do it without a network partner, and as far as I know there is none.More than anything, I was criticizing the horribly misleading "looking to follow" statement. It's a long, long way from ever happening (and the prospects currently seem much closer to "not gonna happen" than "might have a legit shot at returning"), and I very nearly stopped reading the first story after that.

[Lord Dalek]

ANOTHER GONCHERMAN UPDATE!!!!!! - Mr. Public contacted the cap'n again, saying that Mr. Hajime was brought out to ol' Atlanta to show him good time ya? Seems they're trying to pressure ol' Hajime into seeing the light. Again, only in "talks." At this rate those landlubbers at Cartoon Network will be in "talks" forever.I don't know how they coulda brought Mr. Hajime out to Atlanta WHEN HE DOESN'T EXIST!

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

I don't know how they coulda brought Mr. Hajime out to Atlanta WHEN HE DOESN'T EXIST!
I thought he was an alias. Arrrr. Time to confront.

[Lord Dalek]

I thought he was an alias. Arrrr. Time to confront.He is an alias...for every employee of Nippon Sunrise.

[Killtacular]

He is an alias...for every employee of Nippon Sunrise.
Then it could still be someone representing Sunrise.

[Lord Dalek]

Then it could still be someone representing Sunrise.True, but I doubt it.

[Sheamon]

I for one would prefer if they never made a Bebop sequel, even a spinoff series. Obviously the show ended so well there's no way they'd go on after the events of episode 26. And adding a large number of episodes in between that I think would cheapen the high quality of the stand alone episodes. Another movie is one thing, I'm all in favor of seeing that made. But I would very much prefer that they do not visit Bebop again in series form.

Fans have been pleading for years to have the show moved from Adult Swim to Toonami,
They have? I have not once heard a person plead for Bebop to move to Toonami, where it would most certainly be heavily edited, much more so than the current version.

[Karl Olson]

True, but I doubt it.


It's with in the realm of possibility:

CN to Sunrise: We'd like to wine and dine Mr. Hajime Yatate here in Atlanta in a pathetic attempt to get more Bebop, because we aren't smart enough to just commission a new show from Sunrise or Bones.

Sunrise CEO to Exec staff: Who wants the free trip to party in America on the baka-gaijins' dime?

Exec staff to CEO: me me me me me me me me!

Sunrise CEO: Ok, I pick you exec-san, but you have to go as "Hajime Yatate."

Exec-san: Ok.

And it's just that simple. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Sean and Jason convinced Lazzo to fly out one or more of the Sunrise people they've been actively pestering in when visiting Japan, and it wouldn't surprise me if one person went, he went as Hajime Yatate, as a way of reprasenting the Sunrise staff as a whole. Sean and Jason have each said in interviews (Sean in Animerca, Jason in Anime Insider/Invasion) that CN is actively persuing more Bebop. If they went the AU route or prequel route, rather than a sequel, it might even be accepted by otaku and there current viewership.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they start flying out Gainax and Production IG staff for more FLCL (though they may already have got something else in the works with IG, atleast if IGPX is any indication.) They've just yet to indicate that in any interviews. Next time that Anime Insider or Animerca drops in on the ASA/Toonami staff, who knows what they'll want more of.

[Killtacular]

FLCL you could continue, though it would no longer be a "coming of age" story and would instead be crazy outer space adventures, chasing after the pirate king.

I don't know why people get so uppity about doing "lost" episodes during Bebop. That's what the movie was. There are stories in the manga books that could translate really well to television, and would help provide some more character development, especially to Ed whose entire life is just a blank page except for her father. Thinking specifically of "What's Your Number", where Ed, I believe, reunites with her childhood friend, Tomato, the one she named her computer after. Tomato's mom should stop choosing baby names while shopping at Superfresh.

So yeah. If there is stuff in the mangas that hasn't been covered on TV, by all means, you might as well adapt it.

Why can't they purchase more Trigun episodes and actually complete the series the way the manga intended instead of cutting short the way it did? Even if it had to be AU just to be more accurate..

[Vin]

There has always been the possibility. In fact Billy West has talked about it. But Cartoon Network's too cheapskate to do it without a network partner, and as far as I know there is none.

What about TBS, another Turner network? Beginning in July, Cartoon Network and TBS will be sharing (http://www.animationinsider.net/modules.php?module=article&id=112) Family Guy (in addition to the afore-mentioned FOX). If TBS, Cartoon Network and 20th Century Fox (who would profit from DVD sales) came together, they could probably be able to revive Futurama. The budget might have to be reduced like Family Guy will be, but I think it would be worth it.

[JohnCrichton]

Bebop was such a perfect masterpiece that I wouldn't want them to retread and do "untold story pre-quel" crap.

Wouldn't mind new heroes in a Bebop Universe at all, but, I've no desire to see Team Bebop without Spike, nor do I want him brought back from the grave.

Just let Watanabe make whatever he wants. I'm currenlty enjoying the hell out of Samurai Champloo. I don't want his artistic vision and talent to get cramped cuz some people want to squeeze a bit more money out of a franchise.

As for an editted Bebop Movie.... I got no problem with that.

[Karl Olson]

FLCL you could continue, though it would no longer be a "coming of age" story and would instead be crazy outer space adventures, chasing after the pirate king.

I've got a feeling a large chunk of the AS viewership didn't get the coming-of-age bit anyway, so it would be fine to have a story about chasing after the pirate king. Or it could be about Naota's high-school years in Mabase. Either way would probably be pretty fun and funny if Gainax handled it right.

FLCL's another situation where AU might work as well, because the manga is so radically different in some ways, it'd be definetely would be a fresh take on the story, though it'd be a pain to animate (anime squigglevision?)

I don't know why people get so uppity about doing "lost" episodes during Bebop. That's what the movie was. There are stories in the manga books that could translate really well to television, and would help provide some more character development, especially to Ed whose entire life is just a blank page except for her father. Thinking specifically of "What's Your Number", where Ed, I believe, reunites with her childhood friend, Tomato, the one she named her computer after. Tomato's mom should stop choosing baby names while shopping at Superfresh.

So yeah. If there is stuff in the mangas that hasn't been covered on TV, by all means, you might as well adapt it.

True, the manga that's set in the anime universe of Bebop would be good for atleast a half dozen, maybe a dozen episodes, and it would be great to see that additional piece of Ed's backstory animated. Lost episodes done in that fashion would probably go over pretty well I think.

However, the AU manga was never completed in manga form (the magazine serializing it went under IIRC,) so animating it would actually finish something that's only half done, plus, if CN wants 26 or 52 episodes out of it, they are much better position because they are starting from scratch.

People just get very anal about Bebop, because it's one of the few anime that has a definetively great ending. So many anime series these days punch out with either an everything's fine sitcom ending, or a "I'm like the Eva" ending, ones with good endings aren't something to be trifled with.

Why can't they purchase more Trigun episodes and actually complete the series the way the manga intended instead of cutting short the way it did? Even if it had to be AU just to be more accurate..

Cause that would make perfect sense.

[PeppeRaskell1]

And hopefully, when they edit it, it won't sound like Spike, Faye, et. al., are speaking through a PA system. (That's exactly what it sounded like the last time I watched the Bebop movie on the Action Channel!)

[Wounded_Dragon]

And hopefully, when they edit it, it won't sound like Spike, Faye, et. al., are speaking through a PA system. (That's exactly what it sounded like the last time I watched the Bebop movie on the Action Channel!)
That wonderful copy.... Oddly enough, if I pressed Audio Monitor on the remote for my Sony VCR a few times, the effect stopped.

[Temple Fugate]

I'd just like to add my voice to the "Don't ruin Bebop by making more episodes" pleas.

And when was there nudity in the movie? Does excessive cleavage count as nudity now? (You can PM me if we're not supposed to talk about specific portions to be edited on the boards. I'd really like to know where this "nude scene" is, seeing as how I've seen Knockin' about 10 times and haven't noticed it yet.)

[Chad Bonin]

Fans have been pleading for years to have the show moved from Adult Swim to Toonami
I'M not even suggesting that.

In other words, a version that's clean enough to air on Toonami. No thanks, Sony.
Huh. Edited's better than nothing... even though I've seen The Movie on DVD, I'd rather see The Edited Movie on ASA Saturday than... ASA reruns.

[Artimus Gigan]

So...umm....there is new stuff...

Wow...ok...

Bebop being continued is a very sensitive subject, If they go all MIND**** like in Big O II it will screw up, but if they go within the same vibe of the series it could work...

FLCL can be continued, the manga has a host of characters that were not in the series(mainly Haraharu Superior which is Haruko's identicle twin sister) not to mention some of the other agents like the man in dark glasses...

[Killtacular]

I'M not even suggesting that.


Huh. Edited's better than nothing... even though I've seen The Movie on DVD, I'd rather see The Edited Movie on ASA Saturday than... ASA reruns.
It's not like it would premiere at midnight. It's not like all of ASA would ever be premieres either.

And I don't have a problem with the Bebop movie being editted. I have a problem with the Bebop movie being "syndication editted." Syndication editting is NOT the same thing as 'editting for Cartoon Network'. It's a very, VERY different world of horribly tame standards that AS doesn't deserve. It tarnishes an already damaged reputation to show a movie with edits it doesn't even need. "We're Adult Swim, and we represent the #1 block FOR ADULTS. Now, an adult movie editted for kids and time."

[Lord Dalek]

It's with in the realm of possibility:

CN to Sunrise: We'd like to wine and dine Mr. Hajime Yatate here in Atlanta in a pathetic attempt to get more Bebop, because we aren't smart enough to just commission a new show from Sunrise or Bones.

Sunrise CEO to Exec staff: Who wants the free trip to party in America on the baka-gaijins' dime?

Exec staff to CEO: me me me me me me me me!

Sunrise CEO: Ok, I pick you exec-san, but you have to go as "Hajime Yatate."

Exec-san: Ok.
That, sir, is the deffinitive answer.

[Swordfish_II]

If something stupid doesn't happen (OMG TEH JANET JACKSON BOOBIE!!!!!11), they could probably air the movie unedited, or very-near unedited.

[Killtacular]

If something stupid doesn't happen (OMG TEH JANET JACKSON BOOBIE!!!!!11), they could probably air the movie unedited, or very-near unedited.
If it were WS editting it.

[William C. Maune]

It isn't the "syndication editing" that bothers me so much as the fact that Sony is editing it. I had high hopes for Sony, but after their Cyborg 009 "uncut" release and the treatment of Astro Boy, I much more wary. I'm fine with editing, but not overly unnecessary editing.

[Chad Bonin]

It's not like it would premiere at midnight. It's not like all of ASA would ever be premieres either.
Assuming that the runtime (with commercials) would roughly be three hours (like suggested), a premiere of CBTM would be better than two premieres (Inuyasha and Wolf's Rain), and two hours of reruns.

And I don't have a problem with the Bebop movie being editted. I have a problem with the Bebop movie being "syndication editted." Syndication editting is NOT the same thing as 'editting for Cartoon Network'. It's a very, VERY different world of horribly tame standards that AS doesn't deserve. It tarnishes an already damaged reputation to show a movie with edits it doesn't even need. "We're Adult Swim, and we represent the #1 block FOR ADULTS. Now, an adult movie editted for kids and time."
Where'd the "Syndication Edit" thing start? Didn't see it in the original post, so I'm assuming it'd get the same edit job as the series did, maybe more 'cause it's high profile... well... if it was promoted.

[Killtacular]

Where'd the "Syndication Edit" thing start? Didn't see it in the original post,
Perhaps you should look harder.

[Chad Bonin]

Ah, was looking at the actual post, not the Gonchanalysis.

[Killtacular]

Ah, was looking at the actual post, not the Gonchanalysis.
tl;dr

[Pepperidge]

I don't see why I should believe one part of what this guy is saying and not the other, so I'm going to assume that it's all BS. Even if Mike had met with someone from Sunrise, the fact that this guy obviously isn't aware that Hajime Yatate is not an actual person completely discredits any "insider" news he may be trying to report.

I'd love to see a new Bebop movie or a short spin-off series featuring Ed only, but I'd be uncomfortable with anything else.

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

I replied back to the sissy after my good man lord dalek PMed me with the lad who was interviewed in session 0 (Shoji Kawamori). Mr. Public has yet to email me back, and this guy was replying to me almost immediately after I mailed him. Har har har! Looks like we have a bullcrapper on our hands.

Go to http://www.tvtome.com/CowboyBebop and point fingers.

[SirLemming]

Since Cowboy Bebop is one of the most episodic animes out there, new episodes are certainly pretty easy to imagine. I'd suppose most people are just afraid of violating the sanctity of the 26 existing episodes. It's the typical fear of sequels.


And when was there nudity in the movie? Does excessive cleavage count as nudity now? (You can PM me if we're not supposed to talk about specific portions to be edited on the boards. I'd really like to know where this "nude scene" is, seeing as how I've seen Knockin' about 10 times and haven't noticed it yet.)You haven't? I'd think it's pretty obvious. It's from a distance and you can't make out any details, but technically there is a topless frontal moment. I'm sure you can kinda guess about where in the movie it occurs. Between 2 minor events.
As for the editing in general... 15 minutes? Huge exaggeration. All they'd need to do for language is re-dub the 3 "S words", which should be extremely easy (one crap, 2 damns). Less than some regular episodes even. For violence, there are probably a couple of gunshot close-ups that'd be cut out, which amounts to a total of probably under 10 seconds. A few more blood clean-ups and they're done.

I still don't understand why Starz!'s airing of the movie should prevent any other network from airing it. Don't they "share" movies all the time? I mean, I'm sure they don't exclusively show movies that have never been shown on TV and/or will never...
Or maybe they do. I don't know. Is that how it is?

[ClockStomper]

Anyone who's seen the movie knows the MPPA was a little harsh with the R. Anyhoo, there's no more violence or nudity than edited Animatrix or FLCL. One curse word edit is all I can think of.

[G1Ravage]

It's a shame it will have to be edited at all.

In some rare instances, when a movie is a real masterpiece, a network will let the rules slide, and air the movie completely unedited. This is one of those movies that deserves this "Don't touch me" status.

Luckily, if it were edited to AS standards, very little would be lost.

Unfortunately, it seems WS is NOT editing it.

[William C. Maune]

I still don't understand why Starz!'s airing of the movie should prevent any other network from airing it. Don't they "share" movies all the time? I mean, I'm sure they don't exclusively show movies that have never been shown on TV and/or will never...
Or maybe they do. I don't know. Is that how it is?

It shouldn't prevent any other network from airing it in the long run, but it may in the short run. There are several "windows" for which movies are sold. Depending on the popularity of a movie (or lack thereof) and/or especially large sums of catch, windows can be skipped, but generally you have the following: The theatrical window, the pay-per-view window, the pay cable movie channel window and then the general broadcast cable window.

A movie sold into a window generally is exclusive to that window before it moves down to the next level. People aren't going to pay for Pay Per View if they can watch it on HBO, Starz! or etc., people aren't going to pay for HBO, Starz!, etc. if they can watch the same movies on broadcast and basic cable. While Starz! is more easily/cheaply available than say HBO, it still doesn't come with the more basic cable packages. Thus, Cartoon Network, which pretty much everyone with cable gets, probably can't air the movie until whatever exclusive window Starz! probably has expires.

[livingfruitvirus]

In some rare instances, when a movie is a real masterpiece, a network will let the rules slide, and air the movie completely unedited. This is one of those movies that deserves this "Don't touch me" status.
Ahahaha! Um, ok. Whatever you say pal. ::snicker snicker::

[Karl Olson]

I replied back to the sissy after my good man lord dalek PMed me with the lad who was interviewed in session 0 (Shoji Kawamori). Mr. Public has yet to email me back, and this guy was replying to me almost immediately after I mailed him. Har har har! Looks like we have a bullcrapper on our hands.

Go to http://www.tvtome.com/CowboyBebop and point fingers.

I wonder if CN might have flown out Shoji Kawamori. They like Esca, they like Bebop, they like Macross. Kawamori's had his fingers in all 3 in different ways.

I'm leaning toward bullcrapper though. Sean and Jason have been flying out to Japan to work and talk with companies, but no ones heard about the opposite happening yet.

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

Who's seen Session 0? If any of ya have, who is the lad in sunglasses talking about how he developed the show?

[Lord Dalek]

Who's seen Session 0? If any of ya have, who is the lad in sunglasses talking about how he developed the show?Is it this guy?

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v92/lorddalek/Watanbe-san.jpg

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

Is it this guy?

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v92/lorddalek/Watanbe-san.jpg
Arr, yes I suppose. I have not seen it either, or know what any of these sissies look like.

[Delthayre]

Arr, yes I suppose. I have not seen it either, or know what any of these sissies look like.
Yeah, well if that's the guy you're after, it's Shinichiro Watanabe himself, the director.

[Cap'n Sean Goncherman]

Yeah, well if that's the guy you're after, it's Shinichiro Watanabe himself, the director.
Arr, I see. Looks like a fine mate....er, matey.

This case is closed. ONE TRUTH PREVAILS!!!

[The Landstander]

I'm glad the pirate now has two reasons to exist.

[Lord Dalek]

Actually he has three.

#1: Box threads

#2: Find Bullcrap

#3: Appear at random intervals to insult Artimus Gigan.

[Delthayre]

#3: Appear at random intervals to insult Artimus Gigan.That's my favorite.

[Lord Dalek]

That's my favorite.It's a national pasttime.

[RD!]

Hey guys I just heard Cowboy Bebop was renewed for real this time guys. I know this because I know a guy.

[Youko Recca]

Hey guys I just heard Cowboy Bebop was renewed for real this time guys. I know this because I know a guy.
Yeah it's right up there with that second season to Berserk...

[livingfruitvirus]

Yeah it's right up there with that second season to Berserk...I thought it was Hellsing everyone was spreading rumors about. I can at least understand that with it only being 13 episodes.

[Nin-Nin69]

Dude more episodes for Punni Punni Poemy! :D

I still can't see what Sony is going to do with the edits for this movie. There is very little detail to even take out. Sony shouldn't even touch this property and let WS handle it.

BTW William pointed this out eariler, what did Sony do to the Cyborg 009 Un-Cut DVD's?

[Swordfish_II]

BTW William pointed this out eariler, what did Sony do to the Cyborg 009 Un-Cut DVD's? Apparently the dub is more benign than what was originally shown on Toonami, and they used the dub script to do some of the subtitles.

EDIT: Here's a thread at the CN forum discussing it.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=102189 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=102189&highlight=cyborg+009+uncut)

[Karl Olson]

I thought it was Hellsing everyone was spreading rumors about. I can at least understand that with it only being 13 episodes.


Well, the exec producer of Hellsing said at SakuraCon he'd love to do more. He'd just like the manga to be near or at conclusion before doing it. So it's atleast more possible than Bebop, as the people involved would like to do more with. (Though right now Gonzo is busy with their own projects, and Rondo Robe is working on KoiKaze w/ Geneon USA.)

[Nin-Nin69]

Wow.... that does suck. I've never really noticed the dialogue changes from the DVDs, but I also felt that the 6 episode/2 episode split was foolish and unheard of.

I'm now shaking in my boots thinking about what Sony may do to the CB:KoHD premiere on AS if they screw up like that.

[RD!]

Wow.... that does suck. I've never really noticed the dialogue changes from the DVDs, but I also felt that the 6 episode/2 episode split was foolish and unheard of.

I'm now shaking in my boots thinking about what Sony may do to the CB:KoHD premiere on AS if they screw up like that.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Sony must be the DEVIL! QUICK! INVESTIGATE!

[Delthayre]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Sony must be the DEVIL! QUICK! INVESTIGATE!Yeah, we did investigate. And the funny thing is, it turns out that you're the devil.

Actually, I kinda saw that coming.

[herbkir]

If the recent speculations about AS wanting to get away from anime are accurate, why would they bother trying to get more Bebop? Why not just run what they have into the ground? (^_*)

[Bartman3010]

It could be possible to air it without edits. Just air it at midnight, like South Park BLU.

Hell, nobody complained about airing the movie. So it cant hurt CB: TM...

[Nin-Nin69]

But CC has less rules and regulations like CN. And if that were the case, there would be no anime edited after 1 AM. :rolleyes:

[livingfruitvirus]

It could be possible to air it without edits. Just air it at midnight, like South Park BLU.

Hell, nobody complained about airing the movie. So it cant hurt CB: TM...
Everyone's used to Comedy Central being a network geared entirely towards adults. People still realize CN has childrens' programming on it.

[Pepperidge]

I'm willing to look the other way in regards to Sony's treatment of Cyborg 009, seeing as how it WAS their first series, and they'll hopefully learn their lesson the next time around, at least in regards to dubtitles. Also, Astro Boy was more the fault of KidsWB than Sony, so I expect great things from the inevitable uncut DVDs.

And other licenses I'm quite sure they've procured.