View Full Version : Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab 2021 DVDs delayed...
Steve McGoiter
03-30-2004, 01:25 PM
...to July 20th. This kind of sucks, but it also kind of makes since because Simpsons season 4 and a bunch of other DVDs come out June 15.
thanks to http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/ for de news.
Killtacular
03-30-2004, 01:27 PM
I don't know why anyone would buy these ripoffs anyway.
JohnCrichton
03-30-2004, 01:40 PM
Rip-offs? I thought these were officals.... 0_o
The Gunnshuu
03-30-2004, 01:47 PM
No, Matt just feels what you get for your money is a ripoff.
Killtacular
03-30-2004, 02:18 PM
Exactly.
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William C. Maune
03-30-2004, 02:30 PM
13 episodes = 143 minutes.
Considering the cost it is a better deal than many anime DVDs and the length is on par with many movies for about the same cost.
JohnCrichton
03-30-2004, 02:34 PM
Not to mention the shows are awesome. I really gotta get these someday. Glad a Sealab 2021 DVD set is on the way.
MovieGuy
03-30-2004, 02:38 PM
HOORAY! I'm glad they pushed it back. I didn't want to have to buy 3 sets that day. Now I just have to get the Simpsons. =]
Killtacular
03-30-2004, 03:38 PM
Considering the cost it is a better deal than many anime DVDs and the length is on par with many movies for about the same cost.
Anime DVDs are by far the biggest ripoffs of all time and do not even qualify in my comparisons.
$30 for 18 11-minute episodes was pushing it, but charging the same money for THIRTEEN episodes, is beyond absurd and not worth anyone's time. I see Futurama season 3 DVD sold for $35 that has 22 22-minute episodes (484 minutes). WBHV releasing four-disc sets for Batman. But ATHF, the DVD that has actually proven to sell extremely well for WBHV, they cut back on. This I cannot accept. I do not pay $30 for 2 hours of material. That is not why the DVD format was invented with 4 GB of space (8 GB for dual-layer discs).
I'm boycotting this set and I would hope that others do too. Otherwise we'll keep being jacked and the ratio of price to episodes will keep being hiked.
Swordfish_II
03-30-2004, 03:48 PM
If you look around, I'm sure you'll be able to find both sets for around $25 or less.
William C. Maune
03-30-2004, 03:51 PM
I don't really see the difference between paying $20 for a 90-120 minute movie and $21 (current Amazon price) for 143 minutes of Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It may not be as much material as other TV shows, but I wouldn't call it absurd.
David Lucas
03-30-2004, 03:57 PM
I'm gonna have to agree with Matt on all counts in this topic.
Anime DVD's ARE the biggest rip-off ever (DBZ has 3 ******* episodes a DVD!)
As for Aqua Teen and Sealab, $19.99 is the MAXIMUM they should be allowed to charge for this. I mean, Cowboy Bebop's last 4 discs only have 4 episodes and FLCL I believe only has 2 episodes per DVD.
But you know what? The quality of the animation and music makes the damn thing worth it.
It's one thing to charge $30 for 2 hours of material.
It's friggin' criminal to charge $30 for 2 hours of what I can only assume to be Flash animation, or some equivalent of it, where the characters move by either sliding, hopping up and down, or rolling.
Seriously, I love ATHF AND Sealab, but we all know that the animation is garbage, but the shows are funny, so it's all right. But now we're being asked to PAY for the garbage?
I don't know about you guys, but I've seen Flash Animation that looks pretty damn incredible. Hell, I'd be willing to pay $30 for a Home Movies box set.
This is just ridiculous though, I won't be buying them....
Anime DVD's are huge ripoffs. Hence why people scream about it airing on TV.
I'll record the eps off TV till pices drop.
Chrono1995
03-30-2004, 04:05 PM
I think a good idea for Cartoon Network is to not stubbornly stick to their policy of corresponding/equal episode counts on each pair of DVD sets they release.
All of Season 3 of ATHF could easily be crammed on two DVDs, sans crappy commentaries.
Speedy Boris
03-30-2004, 05:06 PM
Now.... I'm no business man, but wouldn't boycotting a DVD provoke WB to NOT release future sets, since the profits were dismal?? In an ideal world, they'd buckle and say, "OK OK, we'll do it RIGHT this time", and blow more money on a re-release. But even IF they were to do that, it'd probably be released VERY slowly, as they wouldn't want to annoy people who bought the 13 episode edition to feel gypped into buying it back.
I'm happy these shows are being released on DVD at all. Sure, there are only 13 episodes, but if the replay value of those 13 episodes is high (and it is), I don't see what the problem is. And no, I don't work for WB. :p
Jimmy Kustes
03-30-2004, 06:24 PM
I don't really see the difference between paying $20 for a 90-120 minute movie and $21 (current Amazon price) for 143 minutes of Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It may not be as much material as other TV shows, but I wouldn't call it absurd.
The Return of the King has a bigger prduction cost than say...ATHF.
See what blows for me is if you are going to put that few of episodes on DVD you might as well record commentary for every episode. I have TIVO. What's the incentive? The Behind the Scenes documentary might be it. I'll have to wait.
Anime Guy
03-30-2004, 08:23 PM
I'm happy these shows are being released on DVD at all. Sure, there are only 13 episodes, but if the replay value of those 13 episodes is high (and it is), I don't see what the problem is.Exactly. The replay value should be factored into the deal as well to make it a better deal.
Stripe
03-30-2004, 10:26 PM
They're two of my favorite shows of all time; I would gladly pay twice the amount for them.
Cyber E.
03-30-2004, 10:37 PM
Even if you were getting ripped off?
William C. Maune
03-30-2004, 10:57 PM
The Return of the King has a bigger prduction cost than say...ATHF.
However, The Return of the King probably has a bigger production cost than most movies. While Adult Swim is certainly continuing to expand and grow, I haven't seen anything to indicate they are majorly profitable. This may be what they need to charge to see more of a return on their product. While it is WBHV doing the release, I assume Williams St./CN sees some money since it is their show.
While some anime shows cost a lot (DBZ) just because people will pay a lot, others have an excuse. Something like Fooly Cooly may be expensive, but it was expensive for the company to put out Fooly Cooly.
Williams St. puts out good stuff like Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I'll pay $20 to support that. It goes back into getting more good stuff made.
KuwabaraTheMan
03-30-2004, 11:04 PM
However, The Return of the King probably has a bigger production cost than most movies.
Not really. The LOTR triliogy doesn't have a high production cost compared to your average blockbuster.
William C. Maune
03-30-2004, 11:05 PM
Not really. The LOTR triliogy doesn't have a high production cost compared to your average blockbuster.
However, most movies are not your average blockbuster. There aren't that many blockbuster movies a year compared to the tons of movies released every year.
Chad Bonin
03-30-2004, 11:12 PM
As I know that a handful of people not buying the discs will not have ANY effect on future discs (one person can't make a difference), I'd buy 'em... if I was gonna. I still haven't bought Futurama sets though.
Although, I did do an article about how animé is a ripoff... oh, wait, Jeff DID put it up, I think.
Jaguar
03-30-2004, 11:19 PM
*moves his pointer finger around in a circle* Whoopdeedoo. I was not really planning on getting them anyway, considering the only AS set I have right now is SGC2C Vol. 1.
Not really. The LOTR triliogy doesn't have a high production cost compared to your average blockbuster. The LOTR trilogy cost over $100 million to produce. =(
KuwabaraTheMan
03-30-2004, 11:23 PM
Which is very low for blockbuster movies.
As I know that a handful of people not buying the discs will not have ANY effect on future discs (one person can't make a difference), I'd buy 'em... if I was gonna. I still haven't bought Futurama sets though.
Although, I did do an article about how animé is a ripoff... oh, wait, Jeff DID put it up, I think.
He did, and I agreed with most of your points. (Yes, I'm agreeing with Knux. Commense the apocolaypse:evil: ) Of course, unless no one buys, it won't change.
Jaguar
03-31-2004, 10:40 AM
Which is very low for blockbuster movies.Not neccesarily. Some blockbuster movies generally do range within the $100 mil-$250 mil range, though. Titanic, which is the highest-grossing movie of all time has a record budget of $300 mil. Plus, most movies are made in Canada or some other overseas country, which makes production cheaper.
KuwabaraTheMan
03-31-2004, 11:31 AM
Not neccesarily. Some blockbuster movies generally do range within the $100 mil-$250 mil range, though. Titanic, which is the highest-grossing movie of all time has a record budget of $300 mil. Plus, most movies are made in Canada or some other overseas country, which makes production cheaper.
Yeah, the point is that Bad Boys 2 cost more than TTT and ROTK combined. And didn't Dinosaur cost more than 300 million?
lostrune
03-31-2004, 12:33 PM
The LOTR trilogy cost over $100 million to produce. =(
Nope, about US$300 million. That's why it was a huge gamble doing all 3 movies at once, because if the first one had failed, then they would've been stuck with 2 paperweights and down $300 million.
And didn't Dinosaur cost more than 300 million?
IIRC, speculation was around US$160 million.
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