Transformers: Energon Episode 7 - "Megatron Raid"

[Obi]

I'm doing this thread because I have a feeling Matt won't, and it's on in one minute.

[wrenchien]

wow.. optimus turning tail? i think there's something wrong with him.

starscream returns too? wow.. he sure looks like his old self, too.

i'd really like to take a bath in peach soda, but i .. just think drowning in it might be another matter. guess it might help hotshot.

they want to use megatron's own weapon against him? hmmm.

so the energon can revive unicron?!?

night.. then day!??! ehh.. nice error. but forgivable. hey, some more fodder for chatting.

tidal wave got a little wordy.. for a big dude :)

really, optimus is going mental more with each episode.

starscream has stealth and teleportation, huh? nice powers.

and here comes megatron.

wow, finally we see optimus damaged. and all demolisher can say is uhh. HEH.

still confused and more so..

mind games are nice. why demolisher to play them? guess someone won.

what a big sword he's wielding. nice destruction, too. awww they spilled the peach soda.

now they both have swords.

and starstream is out there while the decepticons take off.

pretty.. trippy. but aren't they all seeming trippy , these episodes?

flying like anubis to hopefully elsewhere,

wrenchien

[UberMonkey]

Y'know... sometimes I like how they give the characters more depth, or explain things instead of having no dialogue. But Prime's rambling at the end was pretty lame, and I wish he just something short before they panned out.

Anyways, this was a pretty good episode, with the highlight being Prime and Megatron's showdown at the end. Megatron's plans come up, and the relationship between Autobots/Decepticons and Energon is explained. The scene explaining the Omnicons in particular was nice, and it was cool to see Megatron just letting his hand smolder like that as he used an Energon Star to make a Space Bridge. I guess... they made the Terrorcons talk now? That's a VERY BAD IDEA. They're much more menacing and ominous as a violent mindless herd. Especially compared to the lame voices they gave them.

Also, Demolisher jumps ship. He's torn, obviously, but the dialogue they give him doesn't always reflect that. I think when he tried to knock out Iron Hide to keep him from getting himself killed by Megatron was mostly because he does care somewhat for his new Autobot friends. But it was kinda of masked by the "I can't hide what I am anymore, I'm sorry!" line. If he whispered his apology it might've made more sense. Sucked to see him get manipulated by Megatron like that.

Despite getting the crap kicked out of him, Scorponok still questions Megatron. And he might just be able to get Tidal Wave on his side, too. Should be interesting.

Next week I think Starscream's reappearance comes to the front. Which is good, because it was really small in this ep.

[Beat]

Random thought...

1. Terrorcons shouldn't talk.
2. A lot of times, total silence IS an acceptable, if not welcome alternative to rambling, pointing out the obvious, or half assed music.
3. I really wish they left Hot Shot dead, or gave him "The touch".;)
4. Demolishor is a deeper character in about 7 energon eps than all of Armada.

[Razor]

There were some Japanese > US transition things that bugged me.

One... the thing about us getting beta animation becomes obvious again. The background when Divebomb tossed an energon star to Megatron was sky, for a moment. That's... not in Super Link. Gah. I like the dub, but I wish I knew whose decision this was.

And Inferno was voiced by Ironhide's VA for a second. >_>;

... and the other thing... Optimus knowing about Unicron. While it's a small thing, and won't affect the story too much, I wish it wasn't thrown in. Still, though, Megatron's reply isn't really inconsistent with what he said later, considering he thinks he can control Unicron now.

I like the cloning of the Megatron sword, as I said when this episode aired in Japan, due to the emphasis on "incredibly powerful weapons" in Armada. And now this seemingly huge McGuffin of Massive Dead Making is now in the hands of everyone else.

And the part I was worried most about... well, at first, something seemed off about the scene with Megatron, Ironhide, and Demolishor, but I think they pulled it off in the second part. I think it works... because while his initial dialogue sounded like he was willing to join Megatron, his later dialogue made him seem like he didn't think Megatron would ask him to do anything really terrible... like... "I'm going back to my people, whee! ... Wait, you want me to do what? But... but..." And that works because of Demolishor's general naivte.

That's how it came across to me anyway.

Not as strong a dub as last weeks. 7.5/10.

[Duke]

One question, what happened to all the Mini-Cons that stay at the Autobot base (i.e. The Star Saber and Perceptor)?

[Razor]

One question, what happened to all the Mini-Cons that stay at the Autobot base (i.e. The Star Saber and Perceptor)?
conveniently off screen.

[Neo PrimeStar]

Gotta love Energon. I'm a big transfan, and I must say. Was a nice sequal to last week's ep. I don't wanna reveal the entire ep yet cause in the past people used to bark and whine at me for ruining it.:sweat:

[Obi]

Only one error that really bothered me: Inferno talking with Ironhide's voice.


Otherwise, great episode. A-.

[UberMonkey]

Gotta love Energon. I'm a big transfan, and I must say. Was a nice sequal to last week's ep. I don't wanna reveal the entire ep yet cause in the past people used to bark and whine at me for ruining it.:sweat:

Meh, I think normally the talkback thread would have a spoiler warning in the title, but I don't think the lack of that means you have to worry. Since most people come in here to discuss the episode anyways, I don't think you have to worry about offending any West Coasters.

Heh, I get the East Coast feed anyway. ;) EDIT: And since you're new... "Bah Weep Granah Weep Ninny Bong" too.

[Neo PrimeStar]

Meh, I think normally the talkback thread would have a spoiler warning in the title, but I don't think the lack of that means you have to worry. Since most people come in here to discuss the episode anyways, I don't think you have to worry about offending any West Coasters.

Heh, I get the East Coast feed anyway. ;)
:-P

well in that case, Hotshot did NOT die WOHOOOOO, Kicker should of though.:evil: Its great to see Starscream back!!

[True Noir]

Just like last week and the week before that I have to say the episode was okay. I don't know why I keep watching this show. It gets a C

[Obi]

Am I the only one who DOESN'T MIND the Terrorcons talking? It's not like they're gaining personalities or anything - they're still the uber-loyal, ferocious beast machines (pun not intended) that they were previously...but now they shout things. Big deal.

[Neo PrimeStar]

on the Energon toy isn't it Ravage though? IT looks the same

[Obi]

Eh?



Battle Ravage is a type of Terrorcon.

[Teek]

Not as good as last week but the second half of this episode was really good. I don't mind the drones talking either, they don't see like much conversationalists, only communicating the needed things. So I don't really mind either way.

[kaine23]

Beta animation??

[AlphaPrime]

Just like last week and the week before that I have to say the episode was okay. I don't know why I keep watching this show. It gets a C IMO way way more like an A- minus, and thats mainly for the dub error, i'll forgive the animation error cause theres still no idea whos fault those are.

Perfect ep! Starscream's back and able to kick ass all over the place! Megatron is still great! Prime is still Prime which is good :P

Demo is good, being torn really help his character.

*how anyone could think this is worse then Mainly Crappy Generation 1 or Poop Machines or RiD Me of this show, i don't know....so far its the best besides BW and its only 7 eps in to it...*

[Zapages]

I liked it a lot... Its a lot better than anything Armada could have given us... Really good episode. A-...

[Neo PrimeStar]

Beta animation??
you mean CGI?

[Razor]

More like an A- minus, and thats mainly for the dub error, i'll forgive the animation error cause theres still no idea whos fault those are.
Al... don't tell people how to think man.

[Neo PrimeStar]

I just wantto hurt Kicker severaly:D

[Sketch]

Why didn't Optimus notice that he was fighting Star Scream? I mean come on! Who else looks like that? Sounds like that and could potentially be a ghost.

I feel for Demolisher, I'm not sure if he made the right choice or not. He is very loyal to Megatron and unlike what Optimus said, it wasn't jus this programing... it was in his heart. Still it's a shame to see him a bad guy again. He was fun as a goofy grumpy old man type character. Ah well...

Scorpinoks rejuvination looked painful...

Uh... Autobots need to be fluid to be fixed? They're robots... wouldn't that short him out more?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Starscream was brought back just to be Alpha Q's pawn?? now I really hate that Q guy! :(

Megatron wanting to revive Unicron is just nuts. what a fool! no one can control Unicron didn't they learn that before??

I wish Demolisher wouldn't have left :(

pretty good episode but it didn't live up to the cliffhanger it came off of http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Neo PrimeStar]

Why didn't Optimus notice that he was fighting Star Scream? I mean come on! Who else looks like that? Sounds like that and could potentially be a ghost.

I feel for Demolisher, I'm not sure if he made the right choice or not. He is very loyal to Megatron and unlike what Optimus said, it wasn't jus this programing... it was in his heart. Still it's a shame to see him a bad guy again. He was fun as a goofy grumpy old man type character. Ah well...

Scorpinoks rejuvination looked painful...

Uh... Autobots need to be fluid to be fixed? They're robots... wouldn't that short him out more?
actually back in G1 in the 80's Megatron told Starscream,"We are rust-proof"

Transformers are made of special metal material thats why another name for them was alein robots. Cause they aren't made by man ;) primus made them

[Juu-kuchi]

I still am reeling from that rather absurd suckfest about the Megatron sword episode a few weeks ago, and I was not there to watch this one, but a question. Starscream and Megatron's voices are the same like in Armada right? I find it rather hard to hear David Kaye rather than Frank Welker voicing a Megatron that looks somewhat like the original G1 Megatron.

[Redi]

I actually tried to watch this show last night until I saw that the Transformers became heroin addicts. Transformers turned into Trainspotters...wth?

What's up with shots of energon in the arm? I surprised they didn't nod off before going into battle.

One thing I did like about the show was the more serious tone. RID and Armada killed all my interest in new Transformers series, and eventhough I don't like the idea of them ruining the movie mythos...but atleast there aren't sweatdrops and eyebrows.

[Razor]

Why didn't Optimus notice that he was fighting Star Scream? I mean come on! Who else looks like that? Sounds like that and could potentially be a ghost?
He didn't get a good look at him... and half of his face is now scarred and deformed. That, and he's in a new body.


I actually tried to watch this show last night until I saw that the Transformers became heroin addicts. Transformers turned into Trainspotters...wth?

What's up with shots of energon in the arm? I surprised they didn't nod off before going into battle.

The "shots of Energon" are crystals attached to components that can recieve it. This isn't like a drug or something, it's like a special battery.


Uh... Autobots need to be fluid to be fixed? They're robots... wouldn't that short him out more?

Well, it isn't water, it's liquid Energon, dilluted to the point it doesn't fry the heck out of him.

[Duke]

Why didn't Optimus notice that he was fighting Star Scream? I mean come on! Who else looks like that? Sounds like that and could potentially be a ghost.
Optimus may have thought that, but didn't want his soldiers to worry or anything until he was absolutely certain.

[Obi]

Megatron wanting to revive Unicron is just nuts. what a fool! no one can control Unicron didn't they learn that before??
Well, they "killed" him before, what's to stop them from finding a way to control him?

[lostrune]

1. How could the Autobots copy Megatron's sword (which we've never seen before) just by looking at it? Even assuming that the Autobots have seen it before (what with Megatron acting like it has always been a regular part of his arsenal), then why didn't they do it earlier to fight the Terrorcons, especially when it was so easy to make (just melt Energon into a Megatron sword-lookalike)? :rolleyes:

2. So what happened to the Star Saber? Wasn't it there in an earlier ep? :confused:

3. Autobots: "Yes, Demolisher! Don't leave us! Especially how badly we treated you and never trusted you the whole time you were with us! Why would you go back to the Decepticons when we treated you oh-so-crappily while giving you just a lousy gatekeeper job!" :D

Geez, and they're actually wondering why Demolisher left. Even Optimus did not sit down and talked with Demolisher when he knew Demolisher was having an emotional dilemma. Some organization the Autobots are. :rolleyes:

[j32885]

Wasn't as good as last week episode, but it was still okay. Also, noticed that dubbed error with Inferno talking with Ironhide's voice.

Favorite Parts:

-Starscream Is Back From The Dead. Like the added scars to his face.

-Optimus Prime Vs. Megatron. Always good to those 2 titans clash.

-Demolisher Going Back To The Decepticons. We all saw that coming.

-Battle In The Rain. This series has done a good job so far, of using the Weather as part of the plot.

Unfavorite Part:

All the Autobots had Megatron's Sward, at least they should of given each sward a different paint job, instead of all of them being the same.

Funniest Part:

Kicker kicking the air. After being told not to engage in battle.

Overall Grade: A-

[Teek]

1. How could the Autobots copy Megatron's sword (which we've never seen before) just by looking at it? Even assuming that the Autobots have seen it before (what with Megatron acting like it has always been a regular part of his arsenal), then why didn't they do it earlier to fight the Terrorcons, especially when it was so easy to make (just melt Energon into a Megatron sword-lookalike)?Megatrons sword was scanned by one of the omnibots a few episodes ago, you may have missed it. I assume they didn't use it before since it was stated they had JUST learned how to replicate it. With that in mind I would figure it was a more complicated process than merely just the melting of energon into a mold.

[Funkatron]

OP didn't know it was SSS cause he never got a clear view of his face. Scream kept disappearing and re-appearing and using cheap shots to fight.

[Razor]

1. How could the Autobots copy Megatron's sword (which we've never seen before) just by looking at it? Even assuming that the Autobots have seen it before (what with Megatron acting like it has always been a regular part of his arsenal), then why didn't they do it earlier to fight the Terrorcons, especially when it was so easy to make (just melt Energon into a Megatron sword-lookalike)? :rolleyes:
Um, Signal Flare scanned it. He did more than look at it.

2. So what happened to the Star Saber? Wasn't it there in an earlier ep? :confused:
The Energon Saber is held by Ironhide. I guess he didn't think to call on Skyboom, Wreckage and Scattor this time.

3. Autobots: "Yes, Demolisher! Don't leave us! Especially how badly we treated you and never trusted you the whole time you were with us! Why would you go back to the Decepticons when we treated you oh-so-crappily while giving you just a lousy gatekeeper job!" :D
... What's wrong with giving him a gatekeeper job? But Hot Shot and Optimus NEVER did anything wrong to Demolishor. It was Jetfire and Ironhide who mistrusted him. Nevertheless, even with that in account, betraying everyone was still the wrong thing to do. Look at what was at stake... the lives of everyone in Ocean City. A few words of agression kind of pale in comparison.

Geez, and they're actually wondering why Demolisher left. Even Optimus did not sit down and talked with Demolisher when he knew Demolisher was having an emotional dilemma. Some organization the Autobots are. :rolleyes:
Like he's had time to do something like that. And Demolishor isn't the type to want or ask for it.

[RobochangerEX]

Compleat shock.

I missed it... ! The first time I have EVER missed an episode of Transformers. *cries* That will teach me to get involved with something online so close to TFs airing. This is why there should be a second airing sometime in the week, for poor souls like me.

Still kicking myself.

[Leo Arcadia]

... What's wrong with giving him a gatekeeper job? But Hot Shot and Optimus NEVER did anything wrong to Demolishor. It was Jetfire and Ironhide who mistrusted him. Nevertheless, even with that in account, betraying everyone was still the wrong thing to do. Look at what was at stake... the lives of everyone in Ocean City. A few words of agression kind of pale in comparison.
I'm more inclined to agree with people criticising the Autobots for their treatment of Demolisher. It doesn't appear that Optimus took the time to speak with any of the Decepticons before all this trouble started. Prime didn't do anything to nuture trust or respect between the two factions. Notice that he himself never included a Decepticon on his team aside from one episode. How can you ask someone to change their whole perspective/lifestyle without giving them support or a chance to feel appreciated? I'd say the Autobots dug their own grave with this one.

As for Starscream, I'm guessing Optimus didn't even guess who he was fighting. It'd be hard to make the connection seeing as how Starscream was, you know, dead. I wonder how Alexis will handle Starscream's return. Someone noted in an Armada feedback how Alexis was acting like Starscream's widow.

[Razor]

I'm more inclined to agree with people criticising the Autobots for their treatment of Demolisher. It doesn't appear that Optimus took the time to speak with any of the Decepticons before all this trouble started. Prime didn't do anything to nuture trust or respect between the two factions. Notice that he himself never included a Decepticon on his team aside from one episode. How can you ask someone to change their whole perspective/lifestyle without giving them support or a chance to feel appreciated? I'd say the Autobots dug their own grave with this one.
Yeah, because Prime was supposed to know that the Terrorcons would attack, and that Megatron would come back. After Plain City was demolished, they kind of had a major crisis on their hands.

And what about Hot Shot's statements of Demolishor being his friend in episode 5? What about how he tried to get him and Ironhide to work together in the same episode? Does that count for nothing?

And people seem to forget that Demolishor was being just as indignant. He's to be held accountable for his lines of "You're still an -Autobot- to me"... saying it like it was a bad thing.

Nevertheless, they never mistreated him, or asked him to abuse people's rights. Megatron did.

[Leo Arcadia]

Yeah, because Prime was supposed to know that the Terrorcons would attack, and that Megatron would come back. After Plain City was demolished, they kind of had a major crisis on their hands.
A leader needs to foster some kind of unity among his troops, conflict or not. Prime didn't do that.

And what about Hot Shot's statements of Demolishor being his friend in episode 5? What about how he tried to get him and Ironhide to work together in the same episode? Does that count for nothing?
Obviously it does since Demolisher was conflicted when he jumped ship. But it's not like Hotshot went out of his way to spend time with his "buddy." Funny how he only calls him a friend when he's tempted to switch sides.

And people seem to forget that Demolishor was being just as indignant. He's to be held accountable for his lines of "You're still an -Autobot- to me"... saying it like it was a bad thing.
In his eyes it was. Again, this comes back to a lack of integration among Transformers. Prime and the others didn't make a conscious effort to bridge this gap.

[Razor]

A leader needs to foster some kind of unity among his troops, conflict or not. Prime didn't do that. So Prime is supposed to drop whatever he's doing to prepare for the incoming threat from an enemy more powerful than any other that may come at any time, so he can go and talk to Demolishor? Prime also seemed conflicted about the matter when Jetfire mentioned it to him... he just walked off, like he had no idea what to do. And to be honest, I wouldn't either.

Obviously it does since Demolisher was conflicted when he jumped ship. But it's not like Hotshot went out of his way to spend time with his "buddy." Funny how he only calls him a friend when he's tempted to switch sides.Or when Ironhide starts insulting him.

In his eyes it was. Again, this comes back to a lack of integration among Transformers. Prime and the others didn't make a conscious effort to bridge this gap.They did more than they should of, really. After the war, the Decepticons should have been forcibly locked up or deactivated. Let's look at the list of crimes Demolishor and co. are guilty of:

1. Attempted to enslave an entire race.
2. Attempted mass genocide (Hydra Cannon scenario)
3. Accessory to attempted murder (Smokescreen and probably countless Autobots)
4. Perpetuating a war for several thousand years.

These guys were the bad guys! They deserved absolutely no favors at all. But what did Prime do? He let them integrate in society and, heck, gave them jobs. Cyclonus and Tidal Wave were the COMMANDERs of Asteroid and Luna City, not just its guards like Demolishor was. He gave them a lot more than he should have expected them to. And how did they repay the Autobots? They spent that 10 years wishing Megatron would come back, and when he's revealed to be around, they jump ship.

I understand Demolishor is a different case from Cyclonus and Tidal Wave. Ok, maybe Prime could have tried talking to him, but Demolishors indignancy (we've seen it) heavily suggests that he wouldn't have even listened. But the Autobots certainly never mistreated him.

Except maybe Jetfire. But Prime told him he didn't care for those statements. And Jetfire, despite being 2nd in command, doesn't always think things through.

[Beat]

Weren't Cyclonus and Tidal Wave brainwashed into joining the Terrorcons?:confused:

[Obi]

No. Tidal Wave was kidnapped by the Terrorcons and told by Scorponok that they needed energon to revive Megatron, so he joined. Cyclonus immediately switched sides when Scorponok started wielding the Megatron Sword because he took it as proof that Megatron was still alive.

[Leo Arcadia]

So Prime is supposed to drop whatever he's doing to prepare for the incoming threat from an enemy more powerful than any other that may come at any time, so he can go and talk to Demolishor? No, he should have done that immediately after finishing the battle with Unicron. He had two hostile sides under his command, and if he didn't take action to curb their anger, the war would start up again. The war is now rekindled, so Prime's mistake has come back to haunt him.

After the war, the Decepticons should have been forcibly locked up or deactivated.That would be more than half the Transformers race. Doesn't seem possible. Besides, that list of crimes you mentioned seems to apply more to Megatron than any other Decepticon. Megatron was either the purpatrator (attempted murder) or the commander (genocide). The other Decepticons followed his lead. Does that make them innocent? No. They still bear responsibility, but they might not deserve as harsh a punishment as Megatron. War trials for humans follow this same premise. A soldier may or may not be punished for committing an act based on his commanding officer and the circumstances. In Demolisher's case: he's not very bright, so he obeyed his smarter superior officer. He is still responsible for his actions, but he might not have been so violent if he hadn't been under Megatron's command. Cyclonus is a completely different case. He's violent on his own, and takes pleasure in it. He might have warrented imprisonment. Tidal Wave... can't tell. No personality.

Cyclonus and Tidal Wave were the COMMANDERs of Asteroid and Luna City, not just its guards like Demolishor was. When was it established those two were commanders? They acted like guardsmen.

But the Autobots certainly never mistreated him.

Except maybe Jetfire. But Prime told him he didn't care for those statements. And Jetfire, despite being 2nd in command, doesn't always think things through.I agree with you that Jetfire didn't help the situation at all. But I also think Prime showed some neglect by not searching for Cyclonus or Tidal Wave after fighting off the Terrorcons on the moon.

That's my stance on this. I don't think there's anything more I can say, so that's it for me.

[Conekiller]

The way I see the Demolisher thing is this: Demo was Megatron's most blindly loyal servant. You don't just abandon loyalty like that, even after the person you were loyal to "dies". Since Demolisher is such a fiercely loyal bot he did have an understandable dilemma once he learned of Megatron's possible survival. Upon actually seeing his former master in the fles (er... steel) He had a conflict of Loyalty, the commander he'd been serving under for years (hundreds?) or The "door he's been guarding"
Anyway, a pretty good episode, but one thing confuzes me, What's this about Autobots and Decepticons unable to touch energon? is it not their "fuel" in this series? if not what purpose does it serve other than a chemical of Deus Ex machina proportions?

B+

[Obi]

Anyway, a pretty good episode, but one thing confuzes me, What's this about Autobots and Decepticons unable to touch energon? is it not their "fuel" in this series? if not what purpose does it serve other than a chemical of Deus Ex machina proportions?
There's a popular theory going around on the message boards currently that states that Transformers can't normally touch energon, and that's why spark crystals were developed. In energon, spark crystals aren't actually sparks, but contact points where refined energon can be manipulated by a Transformer. This is why Transformers in Energon are always connecting energon stars to their spark crystals, and this is sort of furthered by Cyclonus's line "Since we Transformers can't touch energon, this is the best way to receive it! *A Terrorcon shoots an energon star onto Megatron's spark crystal*". The current theory is basically that only Transformers who have spark crystals can manipulate these energon stars - which is why Tidal Wave got zapped and imprinted with lightning bolt "scars" when he tried to pick one up the first time.

However, the problem with that theory is that Demolishor was once seen wearing an energon star...on his powerlinx port.

[Razor]

No, he should have done that immediately after finishing the battle with Unicron. He had two hostile sides under his command, and if he didn't take action to curb their anger, the war would start up again. The war is now rekindled, so Prime's mistake has come back to haunt him.
That mistake is the result of several things... One is the perpetuation of something Megatron started. Look at the Armada episodes Cramp and Rebellion. Here is where we learn that the "Decepticon Oath" is nearly dogmatic to a lot of Decepticons. That's why Wheeljack, Tidal Wave, and Demolishor continued to follow him, and why Starscream was so torn up between his oath, the Unicron threat, and his earlier feelings of betrayal. Optimus can't destroy that, no matter what he'd do. If he tried to end the Decepticon admiration of Megatron, the Decepticons would turn on him. Cyclonus doesn't seem motivated by this, but moreso out of his desire for combat... but he clearly has a majority of his loyalty to Megatron. But nevertheless, due to the fact they've been at peace for 10 years, something had to happen to make them work side by side... so Prime had to do SOMETHING. But this peace only existed because Megatron was no longer a factor.

That would be more than half the Transformers race. Doesn't seem possible. Besides, that list of crimes you mentioned seems to apply more to Megatron than any other Decepticon. Megatron was either the purpatrator (attempted murder) or the commander (genocide). The other Decepticons followed his lead. Does that make them innocent? No. They still bear responsibility, but they might not deserve as harsh a punishment as Megatron. War trials for humans follow this same premise. A soldier may or may not be punished for committing an act based on his commanding officer and the circumstances. In Demolisher's case: he's not very bright, so he obeyed his smarter superior officer. He is still responsible for his actions, but he might not have been so violent if he hadn't been under Megatron's command. Cyclonus is a completely different case. He's violent on his own, and takes pleasure in it. He might have warrented imprisonment. Tidal Wave... can't tell. No personality.
Tidal Wave is a big dumb guy who has Demolishor's admiration for Megatron, apparently.

And yes, they didn't get incarcerated. They didn't get punished. They were given JOBS. The simple fact that Prime didn't hold them accountable, and instead, tried to appease them so that they'd peacefully integrate has to account for something, doesn't it?

When was it established those two were commanders? They acted like guardsmen.
One of the Omnicons at Asteroid City called Tidal Wave "Sir", and Cyclonus's TV Tokyo profile says that he was commander of Luna City.

I agree with you that Jetfire didn't help the situation at all. But I also think Prime showed some neglect by not searching for Cyclonus or Tidal Wave after fighting off the Terrorcons on the moon.
Tidal Wave was seen being dragged away by the Terrorcons, and... Cyclonus is Cyclonus. Would you expect him to survive an attack that nearly killed everyone else?

Nevertheless, who do you think probably told Carlos to look for them in episode 3?

[Razor]

There's a popular theory going around on the message boards currently that states that Transformers can't normally touch energon, and that's why spark crystals were developed. In energon, spark crystals aren't actually sparks, but contact points where refined energon can be manipulated by a Transformer. This is why Transformers in Energon are always connecting energon stars to their spark crystals, and this is sort of furthered by Cyclonus's line "Since we Transformers can't touch energon, this is the best way to receive it! *A Terrorcon shoots an energon star onto Megatron's spark crystal*". The current theory is basically that only Transformers who have spark crystals can manipulate these energon stars - which is why Tidal Wave got zapped and imprinted with lightning bolt "scars" when he tried to pick one up the first time.

However, the problem with that theory is that Demolishor was once seen wearing an energon star...on his powerlinx port.
That's easy to explain. Powerlinx ports can be used for the same thing as spark crystals.

[raykremer]

What's this about Autobots and Decepticons unable to touch energon? is it not their "fuel" in this series? Nope, that was G1. Energon was never even mentioned in Armada. The not-able-to-touch-it bit may have been borrowed from Beast Wars, which gave us energon in a crystalline form that was too potent for the transformers to even be near.

if not what purpose does it serve other than a chemical of Deus Ex machina proportions? None. But then, the Minicons were nothing but deus ex machina by the end of Armada, so at least they're consistent in their inability to come up with a satisfying plot.

[Razor]

It serves the same purpose as a gun serves. It's not deus ex machina. It's just like G1, except they're finding more uses for it.

[BlackoutCreature]

For Transformers not being able to touch energon, i always went with the Beast Wars explanation. In Beast Wars, there were two kinds of energon - stable and raw (the stable energon being the kind we saw in G1). While they could touch the stable energon (and used it to power themselves up), the raw would be too powerful, and would give off a field that would affect them similar to the way radiation poisoning would affect people. I figured the Omnicons were mining raw energon, and were converting it into stable energon with the spark crystals.

[Crimefighter]

They're replaying Episode ONE this week...sheesh, seven episodes and they've run out ?

[Killtacular]

There were more scheduled but I guess Hasbro is slow to finish them or whatever.

[Neo PrimeStar]

well thats Hasbro for you.But the dubbing is done in Canada actually. Garry said the voice actors where taking a break but will be back to dubbing again soon.:D