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LightAngel
10-14-2001, 09:56 PM
Does anyone out here acutally like Disney sequels. The only one I actually liked ways Toy Story 2, the rest just prove how lame sequels really are. Disney's already set to release Cinderella 2, Jungle Book 2, Peterpan 2, Mulan 2, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2. I would just like to know who at Disney thought these were such brilliant ideas.
langden alger
10-14-2001, 10:23 PM
just don't give us a bambi two and we'll be on good terms.:D
Joe Tully
10-14-2001, 10:43 PM
We did a thread on this not too long ago....
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5522&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
It doesn't start out about the Disney sequels, but you'll see it quickly focuses on them.
Bird Boy
10-15-2001, 09:33 AM
If it's a theatrical release, they usually don't suck. it's the DTV crap you gotta look out for...
TS2 was great because it was theatrical. if it was DTV..I doubt if it would've been good..
-BB
James Harvey
10-15-2001, 10:40 AM
TOY STORY 2 was a great sequel. The rest pretty much sucked. They got HUNCHBACK 2, TARZAN 2, MULAN 2, CINDERELLA 2, LION KING 3, DUMBO 2, JUNGLE BOOK 2, PETER PAN 2 (theatrical), and a possible LADY & THE TRAMP 3 in the works. They really do know how to ruin their movies and milk them for every penny. I wonder what else we'll be getting in the near future. SNOW WHITE & THE SEVEN DWARFS 2: ELECTRIC BUGALOO, perhaps?
Jowy Blight
10-15-2001, 11:32 AM
I only liked Toy Story 2 all the others sucked. The others were pretty half-assed and were trying to milk more out of it.
RockItShipper
10-15-2001, 11:47 AM
Any of you see Filmation's sequels to Pinnochio and Snow White? :eek:
Calhoun07
10-15-2001, 12:08 PM
Toy Story 2 was also great because it wasn't just a Disney movie, but a Pixar movie that Disney financed. So you had a great creative team behind that movie, unlike Disney's typical crop of crap sequels that seem to be cranked out in cookie cutter mode.
Nightflower
10-15-2001, 12:57 PM
Actually Toy Story 2 was INTENDED to be a DTV, so you can't use that to justify it was so great. I agree with Calhoun- it was good, because it had a different team behind it, Pixar. Disney just presented the movie, not created it.
James Harvey
10-15-2001, 01:05 PM
I remember that...I totally forgot TS2 was gonna be a DTV. Well, so was Peter Pan 2, but now it's being released to theatres in Febuary...
Joe Tully
10-15-2001, 05:30 PM
I was thinking about this today...
TS2, well, at least it reunited the entire cast (Hanks, Allen et al) and clearly represented just as much effort as the original. Same quality animation, and IMO even better writing. So I could understand someone looking at that and saying, "Hey, if the first one did well in theaters, that one could too!" Peter Pan 2 on the other hand probably has something going against it since Disney's other sequels have a poor reputation, and the last couple of movies it's done (Atlantis, Groove) haven't done as well as Disney hoped. Right now, they are not doing as well as they used to back in the days of Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King, and so now they seem to be willing to try anything to dig themselves out of this hole. They seem to just have no ideas what movies to do or how to improve profits in theaters.
Maxie Zeus
10-15-2001, 06:21 PM
Clearly the aim is to keep the video pipeline full while also capitalizing on the "name" of the classic films. "The Lion King" long ago just became a brand name in Disney's estimation (like "Coca-Cola" or "Chef Boyardee"); it is now the same thing with "Dumbo" and "Peter Pan," and I'm sure it will soon be the same with "Snow White" and "Cinderella." Use the name to maximize sales, keep the quality low to minimize the costs, and then you just collect the profits.
Movies and cartoons have always been a business, but the commodification at work here is particularly gruesome. Treat "Dumbo" as the equivalent of "Kleenex" and don't be surprised if the resulting product has all the appeal of used tissue paper.
Joe Tully
10-15-2001, 06:44 PM
I think the important question here is: How much longer can this go on? Clearly they will keep doing this for as long as a profit is to be made, but when will people finally get sick of this? It started slowly with Aladdin sequels and seemed to quickly get out of control. I guess we will just have to hope that people will learn to avoid this junk before we see Cinderella 43: Jack and Gus Strike Back
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