AS has Detective Conan, The Animatrix, and Wolf's Rain! (plus new IY)

[Rabi~en~Rose]

And AS Saturdays start mid-April!

who'da thunk it? http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Killtacular]

This is great, because the show has like 500 episodes, so noone will be able to complain that AS doesn't have new episodes.

Cause it'll probably be like.. new episodes.. forever. That's how long 500 episodes is. Because time is exponential. Take that, mathematics.

Edit: Come on, Allen. It's funny in the chatroom but it's rude here. Plus I never believed Conan would be on Toonami. It's a family show in Japan but by our standards it skews higher, regardless of having a kid as a protagonist.

[The Drizzle]

I want to see Conan, so y4y.

Also, Detective Conan O'Brien WOULD own, Joe.

[Allen's Nickname.]

/me snuffs.

[Caffeine King]

Alright! :D

Hopefully it's all anime again and Sundays go back to all comedy! :D

Would this mean the end of new anime on weekdays? :confused: :eek:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

This is great, because the show has like 500 episodes, so noone will be able to complain that AS doesn't have new episodes.

Cause it'll probably be like.. new episodes.. forever. That's how long 500 episodes is. Because time is exponential. Take that, mathematics.

Edit: Come on, Allen. It's funny in the chatroom but it's rude here. Plus I never believed Conan would be on Toonami. It's a family show in Japan but by our standards it skews higher, regardless of having a kid as a protagonist.

wow 500??? that's like WOW! any movies? is the series still going on?

update! AS scores The Animatrix!

new IY in Mid-March to April!

Wolf's Rain in Apiil as well! http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Behonkiss]

Jesus, they're going crazy with the news tonight.

Of course, Toonami continues to get nothing. Whoopee.

[Chad Bonin]

Toonami is scheduled to get...

Duel Masters (Possible world premiere)


.... yeah.

Toonami is pretty much damn near guaranteed to get...

Dragonball GT (CN premieres)
Groove Adventure Rave (CN premieres)
Yu-Yu Hakusho (CN premieres)


... yeah.

[Pepperidge]

Ehh, I would've prefered Detective Conan paving the way for a new way for anime to be presented to a middle-ground audience (preferably outside of Cartoon Network), but I guess this is better than the show getting hacked to bits.

This really makes me wonder why they try and designate this as an "adult" block rather than just a "mature" block, seeing as how half their properties aren't even targeted at adults...

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Jesus, they're going crazy with the news tonight.

Of course, Toonami continues to get nothing. Whoopee.

Be patient.

Still one more card left.

To announce new AS stuff ;)

http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Grenzer]

wow 500??? that's like WOW! any movies? is the series still going on?

update! AS scores The Animatrix!

new IY in Mid-March to April!

Wolf's Rain in Apiil as well! http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
Conan has about 350 episodes as of now, and yes the series is still running in Japan. It's huge over there, only One Piece and kiddy stuff like Doraemon are doing better in terms of ratings for an anime series.

[TnAdct1]

wow 500??? that's like WOW! any movies? is the series still going on?

update! AS scores The Animatrix!

new IY in Mid-March to April!

Wolf's Rain in Apiil as well! http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
Some comments here:

1. On the Conan questions, that's a yes on both counts. There have been a few Detective Boy Conan movies released in Japan (I've seen the first two, and that made me interested in checking out the series). Also, the series is still airing in Japan, which is no surprise considering how it's very popular in the Japanese TV ratings.

2. Finally, some new episodes of Inu-Yasha are airing. I've am interested in checking out the Shippo-centered episode that's among the first week (if the new eps. air on weekdays) of new episodes (what can I say? I love kawaii things).

3. Now if only more new episodes of Lupin III began airing on Adult Swim.

[RD!]

Wolf's Rain... I see a problem here regarding the proposed 4 new episodes Bandai promised... if AS airs it, will we never see them?

[Majin_Megabyte]

2. Finally, some new episodes of Inu-Yasha are airing. I've am interested in checking out the Shippo-centered episode that's among the first week (if the new eps. air on weekdays) of new episodes (what can I say? I love kawaii things).

3. Now if only more new episodes of Lupin III began airing on Adult Swim.
I can't wait for the new episodes of Inuyasha, And we finally get to see the Peachman episode. Least I'm not the only one that wants new episodes of Lupin.

[jeffrey 228]

And AS Saturdays start mid-April!

who'da thunk it? http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
Man and also to mention that both Detective Conan, and The Animatrix are big hits this could keep Adult Swim's rating record to never ending levels, yet I never thought The Animatrix would be on Cartoon Network in the first, that is the strange part about that too, but it is a very nice suprise. :D :anime:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

350 eps, still running, has movies...could be AS's new flagship series if its ratings are good at least.

and the last card has.....

nothing. but there was some more HM love at least! http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[moreysurf8]

This is all good news...except for InuYasha

I'm tired...can you tell?

[Aurochs]

Plus I never believed Conan would be on Toonami. It's a family show in Japan



I find it a bit redundant that people keep saying this. We all get the premise. Japan is a culture with a vaguely animistic non-structured theology that was imperialized early enough to become a liberal European culture, so 4-year-olds can watch television shows featuring violent scattologically themed rape pornography, while America founded by zealous puritans, has an average television viewer who get offended by the word "crap"*, so basically something that's considered "family entertainment" in Japan is "sinful pornography" here and only the most Laconic children's shows make it to Toonami without content edits

*Poetic license

[Chad Bonin]

I'm happy that we're getting Conan.
I'm sad that that just lends more credence to the concept of Naruto on AS.

I'm happy that I'll finally see The Animatrix.
I'm sad of all the backlash I got from suggesting that one or two parts could air on a revised Roulette on Toonami.
I'm ticked as hell that I paid 7 bucks to see Revolutions which, in essence, was ReBoot mixed with The Bible.

I guess I'm happy about Wolf's Rain.
I guess I'm angry at new Inuyasha.

[Captain Harlock]

Pretty boring announcement to me. Conan seems lame from what I'm reading. But the execution is what matters. The only thing that is interesting is the Animatrix.

[livingfruitvirus]

ah another FUNimation show. this time we must make sure whoever is editing it GETS IT ****ING RIGHT!!!

[Teek]

Yay for Wolf's Rain. Has Funimation announced the cast list for Detective Conan yet? I assume they used their muscle to get DC on AS. If DC bombs on Adult Swim I don't forsee much trouble in William's Street trying it out on Toonami, but then I have yet to see an episode of Detective Conan so I shouldn't be speaking on the matter. Didn't YYH start out on AS? Maybe my memory is faulty.

[RedBoot]

I knew Conan was coming somewhere, Funi wouldn't buy a 300+ episode series and not try to get it on TV. I'm a little surprised it went to AS, but I guess there really wasn't any other place for it. It's too much for Toonami, and the idea of it being on primetime CN is appealing but unrealistic.

I can't wait to see how Reign haters feel about Chung's segment on the Animatrix...(actually, I didn't like it that much...Detective Story was great, though).

[The Drizzle]

ah another FUNimation show. this time we must make sure whoever is editing it GETS IT ****ING RIGHT!!!
Blue Gender. =(

[Chad Bonin]

Yes, Yu-Yu Hakusho started on Adult Swim, and is now doing great on Toonami, with new episodes in April... assuming they stay on Toonami.

[Teek]

Thought so, maybe WS was being nice to Funi and letting it start on Adult Swim. If DC has more serious elements on it maybe that means Planetes could also make it on Adult Swim. All about the Tanabe love baby.

They should have The Mythical Detective Loki, Ragnarok on Adult Swim, I bet Loki-kun could kick the Conan kids ass!!!!111! ;)

[Grenzer]

Thought so, maybe WS was being nice to Funi and letting it start on Adult Swim. If DC has more serious elements on it maybe that means Planetes could also make it on Adult Swim. All about the Tanabe love baby.

They should have The Mythical Detective Loki, Ragnarok on Adult Swim, I bet Loki-kun could kick the Conan kids ass!!!!111! ;)
MDLR is stupid if you ask me, I have not seen a whole lot of it yet, but a show about the God of Mischief trapped in the body of a little ultra bishonen kid with an annoyingly energetic and stupid pink haired Japanese school girl plus an eccentric male butler for sidekicks solving supernatural mysteries does not seem like prime AS material to me.

[Anime Guy]

Also, Detective Conan O'Brien WOULD own, Joe.Someone said what I've been thinking of for a while now.

This really makes me wonder why they try and designate this as an "adult" block rather than just a "mature" block, seeing as how half their properties aren't even targeted at adults...I guess Adult Swim just sounds better. Of course it makes certain people always have to ***** about how they think a certain show should be on Toonami or on a middle ground block becuase they aren't "adult" enough.

Now if only more new episodes of Lupin III began airing on Adult Swim.That would be many peoples' dream.

ah another FUNimation show. this time we must make sure whoever is editing it GETS IT ****ING RIGHT!!!YEAH! And let's make them re-un-edit Blue Gender!

Didn't YYH start out on AS? Maybe my memory is faulty.Yep. Maybe it's just the AS fanboy talking when I say that I think it should've stayed there, I dunno.

MDLR is stupid if you ask me, I have not seen a whole lot of it yet, but a show about the God of Mischief trapped in the body of a little ultra bishonen kid with an annoyingly energetic and stupid pink haired Japanese school girl plus an eccentric male butler for sidekicks solving supernatural mysteries does not seem like prime AS material to me.It's Naruto, Excel Saga, Big O, and Yu Yu Hakusho all in one!

[Rabi~en~Rose]

comes to think of it the IY quip coulda been less obscure. I took it as new eps will start mid-march and run into april. which could mean only 26 new eps. but it also could have been they weren't yet sure when the new eps were starting so. :confused: http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

[Chad Bonin]

Animé Guy, I really don't think that a jab at John Crichton was necessary.

[Sketch]

Wow, this is gonna be the best year adult swim has had yet! At least in the aciton department.

I'm assuming that the Animatrix will air on Saturdays, but Detective Conan is a shoe-in for weekdays.

I can see it now...

12:00 - Detective Conan
12:30 - Inuyasha
01:00 - Wolf's Rain
01:30 - Witch Hunter Robin

Sounds pretty wicked awesome to me.

[Teek]

Don't forget about Ghost in the Shell this year, it should be a great fit on AS.

[Chad Bonin]

I mean, really... that's a lot of crap to be confirmed/semi-confirmed. And you'd think they'd pull something out of their butt for the fall that they haven't mentioned yet too.

... and Toonami has Groove Adventure Rave, Dragonball GT, Yu-Yu Hakusho and Duel Masters. Yay. Gundam SEED's almost guaranteed, but damn if that's not a lot of stuff anounced for AS.

[livingfruitvirus]

I mean, really... that's a lot of crap to be confirmed/semi-confirmed. And you'd think they'd pull something out of their butt for the fall that they haven't mentioned yet too.

... and Toonami has Groove Adventure Rave, Dragonball GT, Yu-Yu Hakusho and Duel Masters. Yay. Gundam SEED's almost guaranteed, but damn if that's not a lot of stuff anounced for AS.
unfortunately Toonami doesn't have cards that can announce news.

[Chad Bonin]

Sean Akins has email, TOM could talk (hell, he pretty much called Jonny Quest "the bad times" and reminded us who brought us Big O).

Toonami needs another State of the Union address.

Back to AS.

[Anime Guy]

Animé Guy, I really don't think that a jab at John Crichton was necessary.You're right, sorry. We both have our opinions on where we think shows should go.

[Caffeine King]

Does this mean that SVES is gone? ;)

[randomguy]

Does this mean that SVES is gone? ;)
Nope. It'll probably just end earlier. Say goodbye to .hack//sign reruns, widescreen Justice League, and Knights of the Zodiac. As if anyone really cared.

I figured about Wolf's Rain, know nothing about Conan, however, The Animatrix is very exciting. I think that brings a kind of respectability (and promotability) to AS's action animation that hasn't yet been seen. Kind of like the Adult Swim equivalent of Clone Wars.

[Artimus Gigan]

So this Detective Conan character...is he also a barberian?

Also on a personal note the Animatrix is basicly like heavy metal with the whole thing being comprised of mini-stories.....that and the end result that clsoes everything up is sub-par...

[Artimus Gigan]

Not anymore. I hear he's governor of a large state now.

Someone had to do it.
Ah a detective, a talkshow host, and a former barberian, quite a resume

[Mynd Hed]

I can't wait to see how Reign haters feel about Chung's segment on the Animatrix...
Considering that I really liked Reign and really hated Matriculated, that sounds like a no-brainer to me.

But that one's the only real loser out of the bunch, so this is good news. Always nice when AS picks up something good that might actually be a ratings draw as well.

[Artimus Gigan]

Anything Matrix= ratings

I mean the craptastic game sold millions and won useless awards

[Karl Olson]

Well, I was also hoping for a middle ground block, but I guess it's better to skew high then low. Conan will be an interesting addition to ASA, the Animatrix should be an interesting test of the BS&P (new editing loopholes?) and the return of Saturday airings will definetely set things up for a number of interesting possiblities (schedule pimps, start your engines I guess). I do hope Toonami gets a bunch of stuff initiative though; CN is at it's best when all blocks are running at full steam.

Thought: Does the fact that GXP and Kiddy Grade weren't mentioned, yet are ready to go before Conan mean that they are out for CN as whole, or just AS, or just aren't ready for announcement?

[Mynd Hed]

the Animatrix should be an interesting test of the BS&P (new editing loopholes?)
Good call-- ratings magnets tend to get special treatment when it comes to censorship, and some doors (floodgates?) can be tough to close once opened. (-:
Of course, there are only a few that really have that much objectionable content at all.

[Karl Olson]

Good call-- ratings magnets tend to get special treatment when it comes to censorship, and some doors (floodgates?) can be tough to close once opened. (-:
Of course, there are only a few that really have that much objectionable content at all.

Yeah, but the ones that have the content, have it at MA-ish levels. That might be what some of the possible movies need in the way of loopholes as well, so hopefully, this will ripple effect very well.

[livingfruitvirus]

btw, for those interested, The Animatrix is also airing on TNT in March. (well, only Final Flight of the Osiris)

i also doubt this will get edited much. if at all. some of the gore we've seen before on ATHF and Space Ghost. and in one case in The Animatrix, the scene is black/white/grey anyway. also for 2 other reasons:

1. movies are accepted by the general public as something that normally does not get censored. which is why it's become easier for movies to air uncut on basic cable (see: TNT, USA, Spike TV, Comedy Central (only SP:BLU)) without any complaining.

2. who's gonna complain? IT'S THE FREAKIN MATRIX!

[Beat]

With less edits? Sweet.

[lostrune]

btw, for those interested, The Animatrix is also airing on TNT in March. (well, only Final Flight of the Osiris)

i also doubt this will get edited much. if at all. some of the gore we've seen before on ATHF and Space Ghost. and in one case in The Animatrix, the scene is black/white/grey anyway. also for 2 other reasons:

1. movies are accepted by the general public as something that normally does not get censored. which is why it's become easier for movies to air uncut on basic cable (see: TNT, USA, Spike TV, Comedy Central (only SP:BLU)) without any complaining!

Technically, the Animatrix is not a movie though. :p

It'll be interesting how AS fans' reactions would be to Conan. Home Movies fans probably get a headstart for young and young-looking protagonists. Inuyasha fans, though, won't have their babelicious images ala Sesshy and Kagome/Sango. I'm sure some action fans will be bored by the drama. But the crime-solving hijinks the Lupin fans may appreciate.

And if they keep the stupid omake at the end of eps, all hell will break loose among "adult" swim folks. :D
(Not likely though; they didn't keep Inuyasha's.)

[Swordfish_II]

So, Saturday starts April 17th? That's eariler than I expected.

[JohnCrichton]

Definately looking forward to seeing this Detective Conan I've been hearing so much about.

Animatrix... eh... it's pretty cool Adult Swim's got it. They're pretty smart up there at Willy Street. ^_^

Wolf's Rain... time to see what all the huhbub's about.

Not to mention Witch Hunter Robin. AS is kicking major ass. Wish Toonami got this kinda love, but we'll see.

[StrangerAtaru]

So this Detective Conan character...is he also a barberian?
For those who want to know, the show is about a teenage amateur detective who ends up getting transformed into a kid in the first episode due to some experimental drug that was supposed to kill him. He still solves mysteries, but he ends up using the cover of the father of his "girlfriend", who is a detective by trade. Personally, I think that the only reason why the show is going to be on AS is similar to why IY is: its childish in some ways (the kid ends up solving "elementary school" mysteries too), but it has the violence and the murders to prove that it can't be shown in prime time like it is in Japan. Sad, really, but its still great to finally see the show released in the US.

Also happy to hear Wolf's Rain finally confirmed...and that we are getting the Animatrix in the near future too! Really wanted to see this, but I just never had the motivation to buy the DVDs, so at least I get to see it for free.

[Eddie G.]

Good news probably.

New InuYasha...good
The rest of these new anime...sounds great, my emotions range from mildly exited to very exited

See now that they have this huge anime/action library they should try to get some new comedy.

[William C. Maune]

Definately looking forward to seeing this Detective Conan I've been hearing so much about.

Animatrix... eh... it's pretty cool Adult Swim's got it. They're pretty smart up there at Willy Street. ^_^

Wolf's Rain... time to see what all the huhbub's about.

Not to mention Witch Hunter Robin. AS is kicking major ass. Wish Toonami got this kinda love, but we'll see.

Witch Hunter Robin, Wolf's Rain and the Animatrix should all be great AS acquisitions and Detective Conan will be interesting to check out. Toonami does get this kind of love, you just have to be patient until acquisitions are announced. As livingfruitvirus noted, Toonami doesn't have cards to announce things.

[Parallax]

I was expecting Wolf's Rain, but the Animatrix and Conan are kinda a suprise. I wonder how Japn's current highest rated show will fair on AS. Oh, and they don't need to pick up new comedy. We have Home Movies, ATHF, SG: C2C, Sealab, Venture Bros., and perhaps Family Guy in the future.

Edit: Whatever. I'm just going by Newtype and I don't see, that other show's rating on it.

[Animation Otaku]

I wonder how Japn's highest rated show will fair on AS.
They have Sazae-san now as well?:p ;)

[Tienshin]

I shouldnt have gone to bed after HM, I missed all the fun announcements =(

As for the Detective Conan thats quite a shocker...let's hope it carries over well to Adult Swim.

[Go-chin]

Good news.

:cool:

[Killtacular]

Keep this in mind, Toonami fans.

If we never had a "2004 Planner" or last night's cards, the only thing we would have known is that Witch Hunter Robin was going to air. By those standards, Adult Swim and Toonami have been treated the same.

You will find out what Toonami gets in February, and don't worry so much.

Sean Akins may have an email account, but he's not allowed to spread that kind of information. No proper clearance. He would get FIRED for it. Adult Swim checks with CN before announcing ANYTHING.

They can't just have TOM walk out and announce shows either. Putting together a couple of still images of text costs practically nothing. Rendering a new TOM speech, and pulling in David Lucas... that takes quite a bit of money.

It's kind of funny, actually. Did they not do a TOM speech around this time last year? When people were complaining about lack of new material? And TOM didn't actually announce anything new? Heh. People need to remember that winter is a dry spell for Cartoon Network. Toonami is always out of fresh material in the winter. So is Adult Swim, except Adult Swim was able to make a few smart programming moves to have at least one show new a month.

[Ben]

Mynd Hed: Well, considering I felt lukewarm about Reign and... lukewarm about Matriculated... blar?

Yes, it will be interesting to see how they handle Second Renaissance. It'll probably make the bs&p guys crap their pants.

Conan on Adult Swim? I haven't seen much of the show, so my immediate reaction is confusion. It's ubiquitous here, but its audience is everyone. And Aurochs, keep your generalizations to yourself. Japanese children aren't allowed to watch pornography. Just like in the US, there are all sorts of different levels of parental values and involvement. What differs in the US and Japan is the relationship between the media and the population. It has little to do with "vaguely animistic theology."

I wonder how Japn's current highest rated show will fair on AS.

Whatever Japan's highest rated show is, it sure as heck ain't animated. Probably Shinsengumi right now. Eeee.

[Chad Bonin]

Yes, well, Saturdays has been a detriment to Toonami (Zoids: Fuzors, He-Man, and Transformers Energon would have likely been Toonami Fridays; Justice League, Teen Titans, and Samurai Jack woulda just been Primetime or Fridays, .hack// mighta stayed on some Toonami in 2003, etc.).

TOM2 came out, talked about how it's the home of the best action animation and reminded that they brought us Gundam and Dragonball. Now it's just partly the best home of action animation for kids on the channel.

[True Noir]

YAY! I'm so happy. More Inuyasha. :D Plus Witch Hunter Robin is coming soon. I can't wait for Conan, Wolf's Rain and Ghost in the Shell. I'm not to sure about Animatrix though.

[William C. Maune]

Yes, well, Saturdays has been a detriment to Toonami (Zoids: Fuzors, He-Man, and Transformers Energon would have likely been Toonami Fridays; Justice League, Teen Titans, and Samurai Jack woulda just been Primetime or Fridays, .hack// mighta stayed on some Toonami in 2003, etc.).

- They may have, but would we want those shows on Toonami? He-Man is alright, but the new Zoids is no Chaotic Century or Zero and we don't even know if Energon is any good yet. Justice League, Teen Titans and Samurai Jack would not have premiered on Toonami. Those types of shows have never been on Toonami in the past.

TOM2 came out, talked about how it's the home of the best action animation and reminded that they brought us Gundam and Dragonball. Now it's just partly the best home of action animation for kids on the channel.

Note that he said "best action animation." Outside of the stuff that wouldn't have aired on Toonami even without SVES existing, there isn't all that much on SVES I would want on Toonami. Why do we need TOM to come on and remind us that Toonami brings the good stuff anyway? He isn't actually going to announce anything new. Toonami has always taken care of business in the past. Keep the faith and be patient.

[Youko Recca]

Things keep geting better and better,now all they need is some Ippo :anime: .

[Chad Bonin]

Would I want Zoids: Fuzors on Toonami Fridays? Hell yeah, it's a world premiere of an animé. Energon? Sure, it's Transformers, it's got all signs to be an improvement over Armada, and I didn't even hate Aramada that much.

Back to the AS stuff though; the "Toonami's in the crapper" discussion belongs in the Toonami board.

[William C. Maune]

Would I want Zoids: Fuzors on Toonami Fridays? Hell yeah, it's a world premiere of an animé. Energon? Sure, it's Transformers, it's got all signs to be an improvement over Armada, and I didn't even hate Aramada that much.

Back to the AS stuff though; the "Toonami's in the crapper" discussion belongs in the Toonami board.

While this discussion does belong on the Toonami board, I have to say, why would we want the world premiere of an anime if it isn't any good? I'd rather have quality over new any day.

[SirLemming]

btw, for those interested, The Animatrix is also airing on TNT in March. (well, only Final Flight of the Osiris)

i also doubt this will get edited much. if at all. some of the gore we've seen before on ATHF and Space Ghost. and in one case in The Animatrix, the scene is black/white/grey anyway. also for 2 other reasons:

1. movies are accepted by the general public as something that normally does not get censored. which is why it's become easier for movies to air uncut on basic cable (see: TNT, USA, Spike TV, Comedy Central (only SP:BLU)) without any complaining.

2. who's gonna complain? IT'S THE FREAKIN MATRIX!
It will indeed be very interesting to see this and other new animes, since AS's standards are clearly being loosened as of late. Aside from the bizarreness of going back and editing that one last G-dammit out of Cowboy Bebop ("Bohemian Rhapsody"), most steps are in the other direction. I mean, we've even had an S-word on Space Ghost.
But some things in the Animatrix... it'd be UNBELIEVABLE if they let them go on TV. I just can't see it happening. I haven't seen them all, but one of them had realistic frontal nudity in a violent context, and also a disturbingly realistic, gory, brutal murder later on (I'm trying not to get too specific here, but if you've seen it you might know which one I'm talking about). Like, really, that part was hard to watch. And neither part is crucial to the storyline. So I don't have high hopes for that stuff.

But it'll be interesting anyway.

[Chad Bonin]

I'd rather have a notable release of a ratings-grabbing-but-cruddy series than a quiet ratings-bomb-but-great-series-with-limited-fans on Toonami.

Premieres mean something. Reheated Saturday leftovers don't.

[JohnCrichton]

Witch Hunter Robin, Wolf's Rain and the Animatrix should all be great AS acquisitions and Detective Conan will be interesting to check out. Toonami does get this kind of love, you just have to be patient until acquisitions are announced. As livingfruitvirus noted, Toonami doesn't have cards to announce things.
I'll be patient. It's just last year Adult Swim was amazing and kept bringing the hits and blow your friggin' mind announcements while Tooami got..... nothing anybody was dying for, except for Kenshin, which every Toonami fan knows wasn't right for Toonami.

I just don't wanna see a repeat of this. Adult Swim gets kill hit after hit after hit and come February Toonami get the announcment of a second season of SD Gundam and some experimental series nobody's ever heard of and at a glance you could tell isn't a home run. I'd just like to have two must see blocks or more on CN than just one that rules and the other is floundering potential.

For Adult Swim, they've got anime locked up and tight. Their line-up just rules and looks like it's gonna keep going up. Only thing I worry about is how they'll follow up The Family Guy and Futurama.

[Chad Bonin]

Maybe they could get the Syndication rights to South Park and The Simpsons.

Anyways, Adult Swim's set for the year, even if only 75% of the "Possibles" on that card a month ago come to fruition. Don't want Toonami to have another year of Kenshin that left, Cyborg 009 that left, SD Gundam which a good majority hates, and Dragonball/Z/GT that is like the Inuyasha of Toonami.

[Beat]

King of the Hill? Boomhower on Adult Swim would be a good encore.

[William C. Maune]

I'll be patient. It's just last year Adult Swim was amazing and kept bringing the hits and blow your friggin' mind announcements while Tooami got..... nothing anybody was dying for, except for Kenshin, which every Toonami fan knows wasn't right for Toonami.

Toonami may not have gotten specifically what the people wanted, but Toonami got some good quality shows. Plus, sometimes people don't know about the good stuff that is out there. Yu Yu Hakusho is excellent. Cyborg 009 is even better. It may not be something people were dying for, but if people would have given it more of a chance they might have liked it better. We also had more Dragonball and Dragonball Z which they can't really not show the rest of. Those aren't really bad series either. SD Gundam came and was a fun diversion. It may not have been something people were dying for, but Toonami shows a Gundam series every year and that was what was available. The first weekday run of Justice League wasn't too shabby either. I still think Kenshin was alright for Toonami, unfortunately it didn't work out, but hindsight is 20/20 and unfortunately it ate up 90+ episodes of possible acquisitions. Some folks complain when Toonami isn't daring enough, but then you have to deal with these consequences when daring deeds fail.

[William C. Maune]

Maybe they could get the Syndication rights to South Park and The Simpsons.

Anyways, Adult Swim's set for the year, even if only 75% of the "Possibles" on that card a month ago come to fruition. Don't want Toonami to have another year of Kenshin that left, Cyborg 009 that left, SD Gundam which a good majority hates, and Dragonball/Z/GT that is like the Inuyasha of Toonami.

You are saying on the other board that you think Toonami needs to be more daring, yet you don't want situations like Kenshin again (There possibly just hasn't been room to rotate Cyborg 009 back on the block). Toonami was daring by airing Kenshin, but now you are complaining about it. Daring things don't always work and you have to then live with the consequences. I wouldn't say a good majority hates SD Gundam. A lot may dislike it, but there are a lot who do like it also. Now that Dragonball and DBZ are done, you don't have to worry about those taking up new acquisition space any more.

[Morpheus]

Man, this sucks. The AM is going to be chopped to shreads.

[GTOnizuka]

and Dragonball/Z/GT that is like the Inuyasha of Toonami.
i dont follow

[Jaguar]

Conan: O_O
Wolf's Rain: Uh huh, whoopdedoo.
Animatrix: Yeah. Okay.
New IY: We know, we know, enough already.

[Tienshin]

Creepy, obsessed fans.
Or long running franchise type show.

[Chad Bonin]

I typed this earlier, but it got lost.

I like it when Toonami's daring. I don't like it when things get a chance and then get new stuff on Saturdays due to their success on Toonami (Zoids, likely Cy009).

[Coollead]

Man, this sucks. The AM is going to be chopped to shreads.
Someone's still living in 2002.

[William C. Maune]

I like it when Toonami's daring. I don't like it when things get a chance and then get new stuff on Saturdays due to their success on Toonami (Zoids, likely Cy009).

You say you like it when Toonami is daring, but you also say you don't want another year where things happen like Kenshin being pulled off the block. If you want Toonami to be daring you have to take the good with the bad.

I wouldn't call Cyborg 009 Season 2 being briefly scheduled for SVES and then changed weeks before it was scheduled to air any indication that it is likely to air there. New stuff or not, it's fine by me if a block other than Toonami gets Fuzors if it isn't all that great.

[Chad Bonin]

What hit Toonami in 2003 that didn't go anywhere? Dragonball GT, IGPX, and SD Gundam. Like, 36 half-hours.

What hit Toonami that DID go elsewhere? Rurouni Kenshin, Cyborg 009, Yu-Yu Hakusho, Dragonball, Dragonball Z, .hack//SIGN, Transformers Armada, He-Man, Gundam 0080, Batman, Superman, GI Joe, G-Gundam, the Zoids franchise...

What hit Saturdays and then Toonami? Uh... Hot Wheels World Race, Justice League, and GI Joe: Spy Troops.

[The Landstander]

Back to the AS stuff though; the "Toonami's in the crapper" discussion belongs in the Toonami board.I agree...

[Jaguar]

As for The Animatrix, I'm not gonna say that it's overrated (there are some very good films) but the bad is just about as equal or even outweighs the good.

It will be edited to hell, no doubt.

[Coollead]

It will be edited to hell, no doubt.
Must I say it again, Someone's still living in 2002.

"OMG, IT HAS TEH VIOLENEC0RZ, IT AER TEH EDIT!"

Its like you guys are talking about how Toonami would edit La Blue Girl for air.

[DarkMaster]

according to disclaimer wolf rain still :cool: coming too

[Jaguar]

Must I say it again, Someone's still living in 2002.

"OMG, IT HAS TEH VIOLENEC0RZ, IT AER TEH EDIT!"

Its like you guys are talking about how Toonami would edit La Blue Girl for air.Pffft. Guess you have a point there, considering AS is considerably more lenient towards edits these days.


according to disclaimer wolf rain still :cool: coming too
Uh...huh? :o

[Mugen]

ah another FUNimation show. this time we must make sure whoever is editing it GETS IT ****ING RIGHT!!!
YES!!!!!! We must inform FUNimation about this. There shouldn't be much to edit since AS is getting away with so much. I love WS.

[ClockStomper]

Most Animatrix shorts will get by just fine...it's just "Second Renaissance" that would be the most problem...a couple of the shorts could pass for Y7 (Kid's Story and "Beyond", unless I'm forgeting some cursing.) The rest will be fine if the censors don't get sensitive about blood again.

[GTOnizuka]

I wonder if they are going to show teh Animatrix as one or individual segments; whether it be once a week, or multiple times

[livingfruitvirus]

I wonder if they are going to show teh Animatrix as one or individual segments; whether it be once a week, or multiple times
im betting it'll be part of Saturday nights and be shown as a movie.

[jeffrey 228]

Well how many parts does The Animatrix, got, if they can even squeeze those parts on the Weekday Adult Swim line up, but I highly dout that will even happen, I was just wandering and stuff if that plan was going to work and all.

[GTOnizuka]

When AS or CN or TOonami aquires a batch of episodes, it makes sense sometimes that they not show them right away. For example, YuYu Hakusho airing later b/c they have to run through the beginning to make sense of the new episodes for beginners. However, I am totally clueless about why they do the same with IY. Glancing at the schedule, toward end of Feb. or whatever, ep. 52 shows, "Demon's True Nature." Then i see they re-run it once again...AGAIN! Talk about beating around the bush. I mean no disrespect whatsoever, but like, not only do they not show new ep.'s next run, but the DVD's arent even caught up. IY haters, i'll pause for laughter and wonder why at the same time.

Here's my opinion on this: ???????????????????????????????

[Caffeine King]

Does this mean that all anime premeires will be on Saturday and just reruns throughout the week?

And does this mean that Sunday will go back to all comedy?

I'd just want Sunday to go back to all comedy, anime reruns or premeires or whatever during the week I don't mind. :)

[Swordfish_II]

Does this mean that all anime premeires will be on Saturday and just reruns throughout the week?

And does this mean that Sunday will go back to all comedy?

I'd just want Sunday to go back to all comedy, anime reruns or premeires or whatever during the week I don't mind. :)
Saturday will probably be used for movies, marathons, and other specials.

[Beat]

Saturday will probably be used for movies, marathons, and other specials.
I'd like to see the occasional sneak preview or one shot anime OVA on there once in a while.

Wishful thinking, I suppose. It'll just be reruns.

[SpaceCowboy]

For those who want to know, the show is about a teenage amateur detective who ends up getting transformed into a kid in the first episode due to some experimental drug that was supposed to kill him. He still solves mysteries, but he ends up using the cover of the father of his "girlfriend", who is a detective by trade. Personally, I think that the only reason why the show is going to be on AS is similar to why IY is: its childish in some ways (the kid ends up solving "elementary school" mysteries too), but it has the violence and the murders to prove that it can't be shown in prime time like it is in Japan. Sad, really, but its still great to finally see the show released in the US.

Also happy to hear Wolf's Rain finally confirmed...and that we are getting the Animatrix in the near future too! Really wanted to see this, but I just never had the motivation to buy the DVDs, so at least I get to see it for free.
Can't wait for Conan! I've been reading about it (but haven't actually seen it) on the internet for years. Maybe it can't be on in primetime, but it will probably be placed up back to back with Inu Yasha (just like it is in Japan, folks!:evil: :evil: ) How old is the series anyway? CN doesn't like old shows and I know for sure it's been around for awhile (not as old as Doraemon or Shin-chan I hope:p ).

[Beat]

It's not THAT old.

[SirLemming]

Most Animatrix shorts will get by just fine...it's just "Second Renaissance" that would be the most problem...a couple of the shorts could pass for Y7 (Kid's Story and "Beyond", unless I'm forgeting some cursing.) The rest will be fine if the censors don't get sensitive about blood again.Yeah, I think "Second Renaissance" is the one I was thinking of. No way that's gonna get by. "More lenient" is one thing, but this isn't friggin' HBO.

[Karl Olson]

I'd like to see the occasional sneak preview or one shot anime OVA on there once in a while.

Wishful thinking, I suppose. It'll just be reruns.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind short OVAs like Voice of of Distant Star, Zaion, Yukikaze, Dead Leave and other such offbeat, but cool and comparitively short anime getting a home on Saturdays.

As to the possible editting issues with the Animatrix, I'd say that though it's not gonna easy to get through BS&P, because it's internal to TimeWarner, it might get a free pass like other WB properties (IE, they didn't take the word kill out of Batman:TAS for Toonami.) Maybe.

[Nobuyuki sama]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind short OVAs like Voice of of Distant Star, Zaion, Yukikaze, Dead Leave and other such offbeat, but cool and comparitively short anime getting a home on Saturdays.
Read or Die!

[Animation Otaku]

Can't wait for Conan! I've been reading about it (but haven't actually seen it) on the internet for years. Maybe it can't be on in primetime, but it will probably be placed up back to back with Inu Yasha (just like it is in Japan, folks!:evil: :evil: ) How old is the series anyway? CN doesn't like old shows and I know for sure it's been around for awhile (not as old as Doraemon or Shin-chan I hope:p ).
Manga: 1994
Anime: 1996

[talibancity]

[QUOTE=Artimus Gigan]So this Detective Conan character...is he also a barberian?
QUOTE]

Or is he a librarian...????? Yeah, UHF!!

Anyway, great news about the acquisitions! Adult Swim is on top of the late-night TV world, and now being back on Saturdays gets them on 6 days a week. Wonder if they'll ever go for a straight 7...

Once Saturdays gets going again I can see CB: KOHD and some other movies getting on there. I mean, how can KOHD not be on AS? CB is one of their longest running shows. They gotta do it.

[Karl Olson]

Read or Die!

Read Or Die would be freakin awesome. I really hope manga is interesting in trying to get some stuff on TV. They've got a bunch of stuff that would work well for movie nights.

[jeffrey 228]

Read Or Die would be freakin awesome. I really hope manga is interesting in trying to get some stuff on TV. They've got a bunch of stuff that would work well for movie nights.
Well the only Question is if Adult Swim does a movie thing, what movies would be the best to put on for at least an hour or 2 besides the 3 Inuyasha Movies, since I know there are others that may seem pretty reasonable for this, but I'll leave it up to the users here on deciting that. :shrug: :rolleyes:

[Parallax]

AS needs more movies besides Inu-Yasha of course. Since they want GITS: the Series (forgot its name) I guess they might show the GITS movie. I hope so at least.

[Lord Trunks]

And Lupin is still left out of the mix:mad:
Oh well at least I am collecting the DVDs

[Nik Jam]

Well, at least it's obvious WS still care about Lupin, (and Reign for that matter) but that may not be enough :/

[ClockStomper]

Animatrix is rather historic for AS, since it's the first action programing that wasn't japanese produced originally (the mislabeling of "Reign" as "Peter Chung's" dosen't count.)

A couple of the shorts weren't connected at all to japan (Square's "Final Flight" for instance.)

[Sketch]

Uh... Square-Enix is a Japanese company ClockStomper...

[livingfruitvirus]

Uh... Square-Enix is a Japanese company ClockStomper...
Square Pictures is (or was) America based.

[Artimus Gigan]

Actualy many companies have extentions that are in different countries like Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Japan

[lostrune]

Actualy many companies have extentions that are in different countries like Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Japan

Though some like Sony Entertainment of America are pretty much run by Americans like any other local business.

[ClockStomper]

Related: A future AS show shall have a live action version on Sci-Fi channel...

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=100194

[Sketch]

Square Pictures is (or was) America based.
Oh really? I was unaware of that. I was sure it was still based in Japan. Well you learn something every day.

NOA... I've been there. They've got cool stuff on display. My friend works there actually, as a game tester.

[Arxane]

Oh really? I was unaware of that. I was sure it was still based in Japan. Well you learn something every day.

NOA... I've been there. They've got cool stuff on display. My friend works there actually, as a game tester.
Yeah, but after the "Final Fantasy" movie tanked, the company never fully recovered and thus Square Pictures was shut down, but not before making the Animatrix movie.

[Zero Kagayaki]

wahooo hoo yay

[Roger Smith]

ok.. i read and i havent die. and the series or movie adult swim needs is
CASTLE OF CALIGSTRO
and soul hunter =)

[j32885]

Yay for Williams Street for getting Detective Conan, Animatrix, & Wolf's Rain. :cool:

[GTOnizuka]

Originally Posted by ClockStomper
Most Animatrix shorts will get by just fine...it's just "Second Renaissance" that would be the most problem...a couple of the shorts could pass for Y7 (Kid's Story and "Beyond", unless I'm forgeting some cursing.) The rest will be fine if the censors don't get sensitive about blood again.

I'm no goodie 2' shoes, but i dont think some parts in this segment of the Animatrix is required.

About half of the (what is it 9?) stories of teh Animatrix are closely relative to the actual movies. About 2 or 3 didn't intrest me, because in my opinion, were gay and irrelevent.

Lots will like it, lots wont. I guess it will also be a step for expanding the story for further installments. Kinda like promos. i.e. Star Wars and the Clone Wars cartoon.

[Gary L Thompson]

Ehh, I would've prefered Detective Conan paving the way for a new way for anime to be presented to a middle-ground audience (preferably outside of Cartoon Network), but I guess this is better than the show getting hacked to bits.

This really makes me wonder why they try and designate this as an "adult" block rather than just a "mature" block, seeing as how half their properties aren't even targeted at adults...

For those who want to know, the show is about a teenage amateur detective who ends up getting transformed into a kid in the first episode due to some experimental drug that was supposed to kill him. He still solves mysteries, but he ends up using the cover of the father of his "girlfriend", who is a detective by trade. Personally, I think that the only reason why the show is going to be on AS is similar to why IY is: its childish in some ways (the kid ends up solving "elementary school" mysteries too), but it has the violence and the murders to prove that it can't be shown in prime time like it is in Japan. Sad, really, but its still great to finally see the show released in the US.

Also happy to hear Wolf's Rain finally confirmed...and that we are getting the Animatrix in the near future too! Really wanted to see this, but I just never had the motivation to buy the DVDs, so at least I get to see it for free.

Mynd Hed: Well, considering I felt lukewarm about Reign and... lukewarm about Matriculated... blar?

Yes, it will be interesting to see how they handle Second Renaissance. It'll probably make the bs&p guys crap their pants.

Conan on Adult Swim? I haven't seen much of the show, so my immediate reaction is confusion. It's ubiquitous here, but its audience is everyone. And Aurochs, keep your generalizations to yourself. Japanese children aren't allowed to watch pornography. Just like in the US, there are all sorts of different levels of parental values and involvement. What differs in the US and Japan is the relationship between the media and the population. It has little to do with "vaguely animistic theology."



Whatever Japan's highest rated show is, it sure as heck ain't animated. Probably Shinsengumi right now. Eeee.

Yay for Wolf's Rain. Has Funimation announced the cast list for Detective Conan yet? I assume they used their muscle to get DC on AS. If DC bombs on Adult Swim I don't forsee much trouble in William's Street trying it out on Toonami, but then I have yet to see an episode of Detective Conan so I shouldn't be speaking on the matter. Didn't YYH start out on AS? Maybe my memory is faulty.

Yes, YYH did start out originally on AS (was one of its charter series on Saturday, for that matter). If Funimation was using its muscle, it would have been far better spent to get Detective Conan on WB (not Kids WB) or TNT rather than Cartoon Network. Yeah, I'm with you all the way on this, Pepperidge. Funimation passed up a chance at making a real mint on "Detective Conan", because I think given a fair chance it would have dominated prime time in America just as it did in its home country.

Frankly, Twage, DC is No. 1 on parents and PTA's hate lists in Japan too, for winning blockbuster ratings with stories they think are highly unsuitable for children. Frankly, I think they are right, it's not a show you want on Saturday morning or on a early morning/late-afternoon weekday block. However, move it to prime-time, and it suddenly becomes a great family show, just like "Murder She Wrote" or A & E mysteries like "Columbo", "Periot", "Nero Wolfe", etc. That is the audience where the true heart and understanding of "Detective Conan" truly lies, because the hero's name is derived from "A. Conan Doyle" and one of Japan's great mystery writers, and the show pays tribute to the mystery genre practically every moment on screen. Unfortunately, Cartoon Network has absolutely no time slot that's meant for a show like Detective Conan (I'd say "Jonny Quest" is the closest CN property to DC's millieau, but that's an action-adventure show, not a whodunnit program). Not really Toonami material, but will AS viewers take to it? I feel given a year or two (not unlikely sooner) its chances of connecting with an audience loving the "Simpsons" and "X-Files" would be just about automatic, but would that necessarily true for the viewership of "Futurama", "Inuyasha", "Reign" or "Cowboy Bebop"? I hope DC does become a flagship series for AS, but it's less certain.

The thing that I dislike most about Williams Street picking this up is that Detective Conan has some rather clever fun with ending titles to shows, and I'm afraid this would be at the top of the list of WS's time cuts. Unfortunately, if you aired DC SVES on Saturdays, it would be the better part of the decade before we got through the show....

I knew Conan was coming somewhere, Funi wouldn't buy a 300+ episode series and not try to get it on TV. I'm a little surprised it went to AS, but I guess there really wasn't any other place for it. It's too much for Toonami, and the idea of it being on primetime CN is appealing but unrealistic.

I can't wait to see how Reign haters feel about Chung's segment on the Animatrix...(actually, I didn't like it that much...Detective Story was great, though).
Well, that's the rub, Funi didn't buy a 300+ episode series, they only bought around 100 episodes, from news reports. From one angle, that's sheer insanity: at least six seasons of weekly episodes or more than a full year of reruns guaranteed to a network from the get-go, and the history of mysteries on American TV (Perry Mason and Murder She Wrote) and Detective Conan's own history suggest a sure-fire hit if it can be aired where its audience can find it. Obviously, DC promises to be more of a golden retirement parachute for Funimation execs than DBZ ever was. "Where its audience can find it"....ah, there's the rub. Funimation is obviously, and probably rightly, cautious as to its prospects of finding that golden time slot. If it bombs on CN, that's the expense of purchasing and dubbing 100 episodes that Funi will have to swallow. I'm just hoping the thing is a success on AS.

P.S.--More Inuyasha episodes is very welcome--I guess. (Only 26 episodes! Argh!) I didn't watch Matrix, so I'm not automatically eager for Animatrix, and I'm not that familiar with Wolf's Rain (though I will try it, I can promise that much.)

[livingfruitvirus]

If Funimation was using its muscle, it would have been far better spent to get Detective Conan on WB (not Kids WB) or TNT rather than Cartoon Network. Yeah, I'm with you all the way on this, Pepperidge. Funimation passed up a chance at making a real mint on "Detective Conan", because I think given a fair chance it would have dominated prime time in America just as it did in its home country.
i think more people would've just said "oh, anime? shut it off." the major networks aren't interested in anime for primetime. heck even generic imports scare them (see: NBC remaking Coupling and The Office, see also: FOX and Banzai!). just face the fact that anime is not going to get a fair shot on major network tv. they only have so much time to work with, and they prefer working with their own properties. it's successful in most other countries because their own TV industry blows, so they rely on imported material.

P.S.--More Inuyasha episodes is very welcome--I guess. (Only 26 episodes! Argh!)
52 episodes. 2 per week. :bosko:

[Eddie G.]

Originally Posted by ClockStomper
Most Animatrix shorts will get by just fine...it's just "Second Renaissance" that would be the most problem...a couple of the shorts could pass for Y7 (Kid's Story and "Beyond", unless I'm forgeting some cursing.) The rest will be fine if the censors don't get sensitive about blood again.

I'm no goodie 2' shoes, but i dont think some parts in this segment of the Animatrix is required.

About half of the (what is it 9?) stories of teh Animatrix are closely relative to the actual movies. About 2 or 3 didn't intrest me, because in my opinion, were gay and irrelevent.

Lots will like it, lots wont. I guess it will also be a step for expanding the story for further installments. Kinda like promos. i.e. Star Wars and the Clone Wars cartoon.Of what I saw I loved the Animatrix and regard it as a lot better overall than the last two Matrix films. And dud please never call anything that is not having sex with someone of the same gender gay again, I take offense to that.

[SSJPabs]

Of what I saw I loved the Animatrix and regard it as a lot better overall than the last two Matrix films. And dud please never call anything that is not having sex with someone of the same gender gay again, I take offense to that.
100% agreement here.

HA! I'm just curious as to what the saturday schedule would be then. Ah well, the only shows I ever bother to watch on saturday with any regularity are Zoids (which is getting better) and .hack//SIGN which is important because I have the 4 games so I like the full impact of the story.

[Karl Olson]

Well, that's the rub, Funi didn't buy a 300+ episode series, they only bought around 100 episodes, from news reports.

At a later anime con, Funi said they had all of Conan IIRC.

[Gary L Thompson]

Well, in that case, that greatly enhances the value of the property if it should hit ratings gold.

i think more people would've just said "oh, anime? shut it off." the major networks aren't interested in anime for primetime. heck even generic imports scare them (see: NBC remaking Coupling and The Office, see also: FOX and Banzai!). just face the fact that anime is not going to get a fair shot on major network tv. they only have so much time to work with, and they prefer working with their own properties. it's successful in most other countries because their own TV industry blows, so they rely on imported material.
I think what major networks are most interested these days are cutting their costs in prime-time (why else do you think prime-time is overrun with reality programming?). Animation's major advantage over a sitcom and hour drama is that you don't have the cost of sets, and voice actors aren't so vociferous in their demands for raises (the main factor that drives up the cost of TV shows with every passing season). Add to that, with anime the animation and stories (and musical scoring, if the producer leaves it alone) are already there, and you end up with scripts and voice acting basically being the only remaining costs. I don't think Detective Conan would necessarily be recognized as anime, it has a style that's rather distinct from other anime (except Hamtaro, I suspect the two shows may share artists from seeing the way they render characters), so people might not initially recognize as being that different from say, "The Critic" or "Fish Police." If it is recognized as anime, and some people shut it off initially because of that--so what? It would almost certainly draw a loyal core audience, enough to offset costs that would be miniscule by prime-time standards. If Fox had slotted this show on Sunday between the Simpsons and the X-Files and stuck with it a couple years, everything about the history of Detective Conan and whodunits on American prime time in general indicates the show likely would have eventually become a runaway hit. Again, I firmly believe Pepperidge is right, this show would have been the perfect candidate for breaking anime out of its ghetto if any could.

[Killtacular]

Serious animation will never work on American network primetime. NEVER.

Serious american animation doesn't even work on network primetime, so why would Japanese programming?

Not gonna work.

Not.

Gonna.

Work.

[Jaguar]

Unless Jeff Zucker, Les Moonves, Susan Lyne, and all other network execs are boiled in tar, the PTC is killed, and the whole world can think of them as more than cartoons.

In other words, never.

[Caffeine King]

I agree, anime would flop on the regular networks.

Regular animation usually flops on most of the networks (except for FOX, though those usually get cancelled... :shrug: )

[Chad Bonin]

Didn't Batman: The Animated Series get a few prime-time airings on The WB/FOX? I know Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers did (Not that that's serious, but it is a kid show on Primetime Fox).

I know Superman:TAS and Batman Beyond premiered at night as a special event, and they're more serious than, say, Mucha Lucha.

[livingfruitvirus]

Not gonna work.

Not.

Gonna.

Work.
Rolf's a jerk. Ain't gonna wo......oh wai

[William C. Maune]

Didn't Batman: The Animated Series get a few prime-time airings on The WB/FOX? I know Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers did (Not that that's serious, but it is a kid show on Primetime Fox).

I know Superman:TAS and Batman Beyond premiered at night as a special event, and they're more serious than, say, Mucha Lucha.

I don't know about MMPR, but I think at least a Christmas episode of Batman had a primetime appearance on Fox. The WB also tried airing Freakazoid in primetime twice. Neither of those shows seemed to work out in primetime though unfortunately.

[Mynd Hed]

I don't think Detective Conan would necessarily be recognized as anime, it has a style that's rather distinct from other anime (except Hamtaro, I suspect the two shows may share artists from seeing the way they render characters), so people might not initially recognize as being that different from say, "The Critic" or "Fish Police."
And we all know what incredibly huge hits The Critic and Fish Police were.

Serious animation will never work on American network primetime. NEVER.

Serious american animation doesn't even work on network primetime, so why would Japanese programming?

Not gonna work.

Not.

Gonna.

Work.
Never's a long time-- the optimist in me likes to think that it'll happen someday. But it sure as hell won't happen any time soon, I'll give you that.

[Artemis]

I don't know about MMPR, but I think at least a Christmas episode of Batman had a primetime appearance on Fox. The WB also tried airing Freakazoid in primetime twice. Neither of those shows seemed to work out in primetime though unfortunately.I remember this one Friday night where MMPR and X-Men: TAS aired in primetime on FOX.

[Chad Bonin]

I remember watching Mighty Morphin Power Rangers "The Mutiny" (Three-part Season 2 premiere) in primetime, over three days... I wanna say The Critic Series Premiere or Dinosaurs Series Finalé was airing right after/before it.

So, WB's tried less kiddy animation in primetime... I just don't think we'll ever see something like Witch Hunter Robin on NBC.

[Gary L Thompson]

Well, maybe we wouldn't see something like "Witch Hunter Robin" on the Big 3 right now. But maybe a PAX or UPN might feel they have less to lose by airing an anime on subjects not too dissimiliar to the bulk of their programming. (It would help if UPN were still run by Paramount instead of being a garbage bin for what Viacom doesn't want--or doesn't feel it can get away with--on CBS. I thought these diseased arrangements went out back when the feds forced NBC Blue to break away from NBC Red and become ABC.)

Fox tried airing the animated Batman series during primetime as a midseason replacement. Some new episodes even premiered in primetime.

Didn't work. It was off the schedule within a few weeks.

But as "mature" as some people claim Batman: The Series - it was slightly renamed for its primetime airings - is, it's still a kid's series. We have never seen a genuinely "adult" action series on primetime American network television.

Except for Invasion America, and no one even knew that the WB network even existed back then. Not to mention that it was a summer series.

Which isn't to say that I think a serious animated series would work on primetime network television, just saying it's never been given a chance.
Well, actually sci-fi series like "Invasion America" have had a mixed history of success on prime-time TV, animated or not. The mystery genre is another story altogether, it has had a consistently good track record down through the decades. If creators capable of producing 22 good mystery storylines season after season weren't so extremely rare, we'd probably see more whodunits on prime time.

[Animation Otaku]

Yes, live action ones.


People are biased against:
1. Anime shows(its all either Pokemon/DBZ or cartoon porn in their minds)
2. Cartoons that aren't comedies(there have been a couple that didn't fail miserably, but there hasn't ever been a succesful one in network primetime)

[Ben]

I actually think that, as networks get more obsolete and desperate in general and keep getting their tushes whomped by AS specifically, they're going to look realistically at serious animation. And if it fails, it'll probably be because the networks have already lost the audience to cable. But never say never.

Frankly, Twage, DC is No. 1 on parents and PTA's hate lists in Japan too, for winning blockbuster ratings with stories they think are highly unsuitable for children. Frankly, I think they are right, it's not a show you want on Saturday morning or on a early morning/late-afternoon weekday block.

My reaction was confusion because I didn't have enough information, not because I was saying the show was acceptable for children. Just proves my point about differing levels of parental monitoring of entertainment.

[bassist]

If creators capable of producing 22 good mystery storylines season after season weren't so extremely rare, we'd probably see more whodunits on prime time.There's always Dick Wolf and his Law & Order series. And then there's CSI. And Monk. All of those qualify as whodunits, except for maybe Monk which is more of a howdunit...

[Gary L Thompson]

There's always Dick Wolf and his Law & Order series. And then there's CSI. And Monk. All of those qualify as whodunits, except for maybe Monk which is more of a howdunit...I didn't say it was impossible, just difficult. After all, even the most prolific mystery writers like Agatha Christie or Ellery Queen rarely top 100 stories over a lifetime. Which should have made Detective Conan's already-in-the-can 300+ episodes an extremely valuable commodity.

[Animation Otaku]

Yeah, if it had been live action, networks would have been all over it. But it is not, so just don't bother thinking about what wouldn't have been either way.

[Chad Bonin]

Some reason, I don't think a live-action Japanese show would be acquired by ANY network, unless it was easily Banzai/Most Extreme Elimination Challenge/Dynaman material or Ultraman Tiga/Power Rangers Dino Thunder adaptable.

[Kaiser0120]

Hmmm... So, let me get this straight...

Detective Conan premieres Monday, April 5th at 12:30 AM.

Wolf's Rain premieres Saturday, April 24th at 11:00 PM.

New Inu Yasha premiers Saturday, April 24th at 11:30 PM. Possibly showing two episodes.

Is that the gist of it?

[Animation Otaku]

It is showing two new episodes a night, not possibly.

[Kaiser0120]

It is showing two new episodes a night, not possibly.
Okie dokie then...

Well, seeems like there's some good AS coming. ^_^

[Animation Otaku]

It does indeed. Let the good times roll on.

[Gary L Thompson]

Hmmm... So, let me get this straight...

Detective Conan premieres Monday, April 5th at 12:30 AM.

Wolf's Rain premieres Saturday, April 24th at 11:00 PM.

New Inu Yasha premiers Saturday, April 24th at 11:30 PM. Possibly showing two episodes.

Is that the gist of it?
Just out of curiousity, where did you get this info? From looking at this entire thread, I haven't seen a single post identifying where "Detective Conan", "Wolf's Rain" and "Inu Yasha" was announced, and I haven't run across it in any of the news sections so far.

[Kaiser0120]

Just out of curiousity, where did you get this info? From looking at this entire thread, I haven't seen a single post identifying where "Detective Conan", "Wolf's Rain" and "Inu Yasha" was announced, and I haven't run across it in any of the news sections so far.
On a dozen sites, actually. I can't name just 1, but if you go on Google and type in one of the shows with the corresponding date, you'll find more than 1 site with the info. It's even on Anime DVD's little Forum News thing.

[herbkir]

Additionally, Gundam Seed will be running on Saturdays, but no news account I've seen made clear whether this would run before 11 in SVES or after 11 in Adult Swim. They just say it'll run in "Cartoon Network's new Saturday action block." (I wish these guys would learn the distinctions between Cartoon Network's different programming blocks.) If SVES, a 10:30 airing would make a great lead-in to AS. If AS, it would probably run after Inuyasha at 12:30. (It'd be like a return to the old Saturday AS with Inuyasha and a Gundam show in the anime mix.) (^_*)

[The Drizzle]

I doubt Gundam SEED will make an appearance on AS.

[pabcool]

InuYasha: Cool. New material is great, but I'm a bit indifferent, as I've been getting boreed by Inu lately.

Conan: OH SWEET GOD YESSS. Although I'd rather it be on earlier, when I actually see it, I'll be happy. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Conan and I'm sure you'll love it too. LOVE THE CONAN! BOW DOWN TO THE CONAN!

Animatrix: Maybe I'm weird, but I didn't find Animatrix particularly disturbing, except for those two or three scenes in Second Renisance. This should relax the editing policies even further.

Wolf's Rain: It's BONES. Anything BONES can't be bad.

ASA: Sweetness. Now I can watch too.

Aqua Teen Weekdays: While I hope it's temporary, this is welcome. Now all we need is a 10 PM spot.